1970 vs 2020 Dodge Challenger RT: Old vs New Muscle Car Drag Racing Street Style

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In this episode I race my '70 Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi vs a 2020 Dodge Challenger R/T. Old school vs new school muscle cars, Hemi vs Hemi. Watch it go down at Willow Springs no prep street race style drag race. My 1970 Challenger is Hemi swapped with a 5.7 gen 3 Hemi and a 6-speed manual and the 2020 Challenger R/T has a 5.7 Hemi with a 100 shot of nitrous and 8-speed auto drag racing. It's a battle of classic vs new muscle cars, automatic vs manual transmission, nitrous vs naturally aspirated V8 street racing.
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Awesome drone footage courtesy of eddiecorejr , thanks to trackgirlelyse and willow_springs_raceway for the help.
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00:00 - Intro
00:15 - 2020 Dodge Challenger R/T Walkaround
00:37 - 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T Walkaround
03:08 - 2020 Dodge Challenger Hemi Burnout
04:09 - 1970 Challenger vs 2020 Challenger Drag Racing First Run
05:13 - 1970 Dodge Challenger Hemi Burnout
05:46 - Old School vs New Muscle Street Race Second Run

Пікірлер: 195

@gordonsmithsa115 25 күн бұрын

The 1970 challenger is a thing of beauty ❤

@IRastalion 23 күн бұрын

Give me the 1970 all day long.Beautiful car.Wins on personality alone.

@user-by9qd4wv7o 4 күн бұрын

Give Dodge credit. They did a great job on designing the new Challengers!

@Mr688895 Ай бұрын

Definitely rather have the 70 RT. Great video

@yncabzah Ай бұрын

I mean the 1970 is lighter plus the driver knows how to change gears effectively

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

As the driver of the 1970, thank you sir

@ionchira5448 24 күн бұрын

2020 used nitrous?

@Andrey_ny3blpbkoB 3 күн бұрын

Old daddy can do real things! 👍 Very cool, great job! ✊ thank u

@noboltsleftbehind 3 күн бұрын

@@ionchira5448 yes, he was on a 100 shot

@matrox Ай бұрын

Not old Vs. New when they both have modern Hemis.

@pgmurray76 29 күн бұрын

Exactly! It is converted! Lame for a comparison.

@speedracerjeff 28 күн бұрын

It is a pre eagle heads Hemi though.

@teambronski Ай бұрын

Absolutely amazing shifting.

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Thank you sir

@chuizune Ай бұрын

Duude that was sick! I'll take the 1970 100 times outta 100. One of my all time faves.

@Thomas-ti5ow 3 күн бұрын

Old muscle cars never die. They are just getting FASTER!

@bluesman7475 Ай бұрын

The 70 is a great looking car. I only wish it had the gen 2 426 hemi to really roast the new car.

@Cynical... Ай бұрын

Nice shifting bro, and those drone shots are awesome!

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Thank you sir!

@danielfair4675 Ай бұрын

The '70 ran a 14 flat @ 104 back in the day stock .... and those numbers were corrected to sea level specs. In reality they'd squeeze a mid 14 @ 98 mph.

@ralfhtg1056 2 күн бұрын

The 2020 car should also have been a manual. Cannot understand the obsession with these bloody automatics!

@IOSARBX Ай бұрын

No Bolts Left Behind, You're the best! I just had to subscribe!

@bfamilychallenger Ай бұрын

Awesome! Was a lot of fun, you’ll have to do another one when you come up sometime this summer!

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Absolutely man, let’s do it

@cooperbrown1 12 күн бұрын

Nice work!! Both performed well. Thanks for sharing :)

@Justinkent83 21 күн бұрын

There are no losers in this race.

@carz_ndstuff Ай бұрын

Great video love to see the the comparison...👍

@nickkostakis9600 22 күн бұрын

I just love the 1970 BEAST that look 👀 and everything about it ❤😊thank you so much from Sydney Australia 😊😊😊

@scatpackfun1119 Ай бұрын

It's crazy seeing 2 5.7s running high 11s. Over here making Hellcats a lil scared haha.

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Don’t worry, this was a 1000ft (un prepped) track 😂. On a prepped quarter mile we’d be in the high 12s

@gabrielomalley6266 Ай бұрын

Bro relax that was not a quarter mile haha

@youtubetrollking1880 Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Those et and mph aren't matching up for a quarter mile.

@tommygatch Күн бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehind I was wondering, the times and speeds didn't make sense to me. You're 320' short of a 1/4 mile! NOW I get it

@davidhubbard7573 Ай бұрын

Another thing people miss the 1970 rt ran 4.10gears

@mikewallace8087 23 күн бұрын

A 4:10 axle differential ?

@ZoMcYo 24 күн бұрын

That drone was hauling butt!

@scottziegler9172 13 күн бұрын

Excellent!!

@jeffsim8664 Ай бұрын

Great racing.. love the classic.. and for a manual to match a modern auto.. outstanding shifting

@kingkracken7522 6 күн бұрын

great video .. awesome burnout in the 70

@CSmith-gb1sl 27 күн бұрын

Those older cars were lighter my thoughts. I thought the Cuda's were more popular in the day. Glad to see someone is responsible & keeping it on the track & off the streets. :)

@Tuftsedge1 3 күн бұрын

Both nice cars.No matter which car won I would take the old school challenger any day.

@cantcme1243 4 күн бұрын

I'm not siding with either car I'll take both because I'm a real muscle car enthusiasts, old school or new.."Dodge, the brotherhood of muscle"

@michaelsimko7694 15 күн бұрын

Other than the engine sizes, the power-to-weight ratio is the biggest thing that separates today's muscle cars from those during the glory days and the late 80s into the 90s.

@MagicMike87 22 сағат бұрын

Owner knows how to drive his car.

@SuperDave-pe1zw Ай бұрын

Beautiful challenger ! Very slick car...

@305classics Ай бұрын

Badass!!! I’ll take the classic any day! Love classic cars

@stangowner8687 23 күн бұрын

Regardless of winner, I’d take a classic pre fuel crisis counterpart every time.

@paullassahn4641 Ай бұрын

I like the pre2015 Challengers because they take more styling cues from the 1970 like the grill & tail lights & hood. Newer ones are more like the 1971 with two grill inserts and separated tail lights

@rodrigofajardo630 Күн бұрын

50 years later only improved the amount of money you have to pay for a bunch of plastic and harmless electronics

@analogkid4557 29 күн бұрын

If the 70 had an old school engine, it would be even more of an ass whippin'.

@justanobserver530 3 күн бұрын

There's a place for the classic and the new. I've got a 65 GTO and a 06 GTO. The 06 is definitely faster top end (160 mph) and feels like 80 mph in the 65. The 65 however is quicker in the 1/4 but only because of the upgrades. The 65 also blows the 06 away with style and class.

@randylear8264 Күн бұрын

I have both. 1970 Challenger 340 automatic 6:43 and a 2009 Challenger R/T 6 speed manual. I have only ran the 09 at ZMax and my times were 13.4@106 mph. Not too sure what the 340 would run. The engine is warmed up pretty good with air gap intake and Carter 750 carb. .500 lift crane cam and headman headers. I guess the times would be similar.

@noboltsleftbehind Күн бұрын

I bet it would, those 340s were spicy motors and relatively light weight too

@barco581 27 күн бұрын

Modern tires allow the '70 to really hook up.

@speedracerjeff 28 күн бұрын

Impressive for a Pre-Eagle Hemi with cam only. I have the same engine in my 05 Ram single cab. The eagle heads Hemi in the 09+ Ram trucks had about 45 more HP.

@noboltsleftbehind 28 күн бұрын

Nice, you know your Hemis sir. Yes mine’s a pre-eagle truck motor I pulled out of an 05 Durango. I was surprised too how much the motor woke up with just a mild/medium cam and a tune.

@jonbarnett6132 Ай бұрын

Sooooooo sick of these newer Dodges. Wow, you can BUY a fast car, now try building a fast vintage car!

@jax3464 3 күн бұрын

Orange paint on a dodge is guaranteed an extra 50 rwhp!!😂

@robertstrobel6937 Ай бұрын

I prefer the older quarter mile care my Grandpa Jim had a 1964 440 Dodge 426 Himi Cornett. It would the Quarter mile 11.66 and the difference between his and these two cars is that his was stock.

@Mst-bh9ti 3 күн бұрын

The only way to get that time is off a cliff, fanboy. I'd also like to know how the car had two different engines at once, lol.

@tr3ynag4ta 16 күн бұрын

Would have liked to see a fairer comparison with a 6 speed 2020 R/T. Im surprised to hear this engine was pulled out of a SUV and not a original Big Block Hemi! Very nice runs brotha!

@RogueVigilante 9 күн бұрын

Lol such a humble guy I like that keep it up row them gears put them down 1320 is yours Old School Wins again ;')

@Hankola 24 күн бұрын

Honestly, couldn't tell you were driving a manual. That was some fantastic shifting.

@noboltsleftbehind 24 күн бұрын

Thank you sir

@levikroeker560 27 күн бұрын

Crazy the new one so nuch heavier over the 70 when they were all steel.

@reallymentalpig1173 11 күн бұрын

All the technology I’m assuming

@michaelthomas5140 15 күн бұрын

Damn, I could imagine somewhere in the mid to high 12’s on the qtr., which isn’t bad for a 5.7 Hemi.

@HEMImania Ай бұрын

Nice! What 60’ times are you guys doing in these two passes? The lighter weight and 4.10 sure gets you off the line hella quick from the looks of it.

@noboltsleftbehind 29 күн бұрын

For sure, my 4.10s are what got me out of the hole and able to get out ahead early. They weren’t measuring 60’ at this event, it’s a sort of pop-up drag strip on the straightaway on one of Willow Spring’s road course tracks. But on a regular prepped drag strip I do around 1.9 seconds 60’.

@user-qr7ee2cp4y 26 күн бұрын

The old one will be around for another 50 yrs... new one won't be running after 10... I'll take the old one.

@hertzer2000 28 күн бұрын

I want to see the telemetry on the 2020. Lifting?

@HardRockVermont 15 күн бұрын

Great content! I think if it was me, I would want the 440 6 Pack in the Original Challenger, or the 426 Hemi, 4 speed Manual. But, whatever works, I am not trying to be an armchair critic here...lol

@noboltsleftbehind 14 күн бұрын

A big part of my decision to go with a Gen 3 Hemi for this build was weight over the front wheels. I do road race/time attack racing with it (here’s one of my races: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsmdndWjsM7YeWw.htmlsi=iyQ3m3C46TfShlMM ) and the 5.7 Hemi weighs around 485 lbs, vs a big block 440’s weight at 670 lbs and the old school 426 Hemi’s whopping 840 lbs! Makes a huge difference in weight balance.

@HardRockVermont 14 күн бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehind Ya, that makes sense from a drag racing perspective. Weight reduction equals better ET. I was speaking from a purist's perspective.

@oscarjimenez9814 Ай бұрын

That’s why you were the Crown 👑

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Nah, Nova is top dog now

@infamousnova Ай бұрын

😱

@equalizer2233 Ай бұрын

Are those blow valves in the grille on the 2020?

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Those are the nitrous purge

@stevesmith6236 Ай бұрын

So, what's up with the LOW trap speeds?? Both should easilly be 113-119 mph if indeed this is a true 1/4 mile.

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

It’s 1000ft unprepped, not a full quarter mile

@anthonyvigil1279 5 күн бұрын

Yes, old is better 👍🏽

@Freddy_Confetti 6 күн бұрын

Would have been more interesting to see if the 1970 had the original motor vs a stock new 5.7

@ZENIGMATV 23 күн бұрын

I own a 70 with a scat pack. One day I’d love to put a Helliphant in it.

@waynefloyd2680 19 сағат бұрын

Sounds like a raptor. 😢😊

@brianwil89 Ай бұрын

Are those 1/8 mile times ? Burnout box is weird. Tires would be cooled off by the time you get to the starting line. The 70 R/T is way cooler.

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

This is a 1000ft track, no prep.

@ericbrito2696 Ай бұрын

I wish that 70 rt had the 426 wouldve loved to see how it would've done against a modern 5.7. great video nonetheless!

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Trust me man, I do too. Unfortunately an original 426 Hemi will set you back about 30 grand nowadays, and that's before you build it up. It's also an 800 pound engine, not exactly ideal for weight distribution 😂

@thomasthurston6656 Ай бұрын

30 grand or more like 300 grand. I have a 14 Plum Crazy purple bought new it was over 40k@noboltsleftbehind

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

@@thomasthurston6656 for an original Hemi car yeah, no kidding. Those things are going for crazy money nowadays. I meant just buying a 426 Hemi engine to drop in, just the engines themselves for for like 30k

@Emmanuel-oo5yu Ай бұрын

Morning sir found an explorer with a 5.0 buts it’s not an HO will that still work for a 65 mustang swap

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

What year is the Explorer?

@Emmanuel-oo5yu Ай бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehind 1998

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

@@Emmanuel-oo5yu that’ll definitely work. I think they’re all HO motors from 96-01

@Emmanuel-oo5yu Ай бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehind awesome thank you

@davidreed3165 Ай бұрын

And the best use for a drone award goes to….

@michaelowen6197 28 күн бұрын

You need to bang shift that 6 speed.

@TastyGoomba 29 күн бұрын

wow, thought the new one would blow the doors off of old school.

@Mst-bh9ti 3 күн бұрын

It's not old school. The put a modern engine in it.

@datchannel1 12 күн бұрын

I was definitely hoping for a 440 under the hood

@original__gmebvy 28 күн бұрын

I’d only take the older car if it were engine swapped with the engine from a modern Challenger. Otherwise I’d take the new one

@speedracerjeff 28 күн бұрын

It is swapped with a newer gen Hemi….

@ABO9L07 Ай бұрын

Although the car did great i think the 1970 5.7 hemi needs a real COLD AIR INTAKE as you are losing a lot of potential free horsepower with your current air filter inside engine bay

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

You're 100% correct on that, I see pretty high air intake temps especially at cruising speeds. Building a ram-air box for my hood scoops is on my long list of to-dos.

@blakesmusclecar Ай бұрын

Great video! Was that a 1/4 mile run?

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Thanks! This was 1000ft unprepped

@blakesmusclecar Ай бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehind - Outstanding. I'm doing a G3 stroker for my 68 Cuda and followed your series on your build. You do outstanding work and are very methodical and thorough. Keep up the great work!

@drimmeldrammeldrummel 3 күн бұрын

i never was really a fan of theactual challengers design. the back was just to steep and made the car looking like a big brick. the 1970 challenger looked slimmer and more elegant.

@richardreynolds9985 Ай бұрын

Any weight reduction on the 2020? Awesome color on that car too

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Not sure but there didn’t seem to be. Still had full interior and everything

@alfonsoramos5597 Ай бұрын

Is that a 1/8 mile track? Why are the top end speeds so low?

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

This is a 1000ft track, unprepped

@alfonsoramos5597 Ай бұрын

I used to do 11.30 at the 1000ft track in a 1974 Nova 350 on high lift and duration cammed engine with 12" slicks 530 gears in 9' ford rear end, linelock, electric motor driven water pump, Victor junior intake and 750 holley and foot brake launch in my transpack reworked turbo 350 tranny with 3500 stall.

@JC-fm9ps Ай бұрын

NHRA are all 1/8 of a mile

@MidnightinSavannah Ай бұрын

Is this a 1/8 or a 1/4 track? My car runs 11.40s @ 119 mph in the 1/4 and 7.40s @ 96 mph in the 1/8, why is the MPH so low?

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

This is a 1000ft track, so right in between an eight and quarter mile. It's also un-prepped

@gotime7174 Ай бұрын

That was my question! My Hellcat is in the 11's and my MPH is in the mid to high 120's.

@thomasthurston6656 Ай бұрын

@noboltsleftbehind Hi from SoCal, what track is this ?

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

@@thomasthurston6656 this is Willow Springs Raceway, they do a pop-up drag strip on the long straightaway of the road course about once a month

@thomasthurston6656 Ай бұрын

@noboltsleftbehind I have never been. I have run Pomona and LACR when it was open with my 67 Buick. I wouldn't mind trying my 14 R/T Classic Challenger. Lmao, the color makes it go faster. Plum Crazy. That car has been nothing but trouble from the day I drove it off the lot new. 1 of 36 made, I see why now.

@mikewatts1450 13 күн бұрын

Original Challenger had a 4 speed manual and maybe a 4:11 sure grip rear end sooo...??

@mitchellrush6847 14 сағат бұрын

Weight difference and driving overcame the nitro

@user-xe4uc8bn4y Ай бұрын

The MPH seem too low for high 11 second runs?

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

This is a 1000ft track

@PBuzay1 7 сағат бұрын

So did the new Challenger use the nitrous or not?

@noboltsleftbehind 5 сағат бұрын

@@PBuzay1 yes

@ericball6000 21 күн бұрын

old school all day long.

@fastfordman1965 18 күн бұрын

Really wish the 1970 would have had a period correct engine in it. Cool video nonetheless.

@TempletonpeckPasso 9 күн бұрын

La challenger 70 est LARGEMENT plus belle

@infamousnova Ай бұрын

That was a really close race. Your car is running good, that 100 shot didn't help him at all

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

If it was a full quarter mile he would have passed me, he was reeling me in pretty hard on the second run.

@infamousnova Ай бұрын

@noboltsleftbehind You guys should do it again on a prepped track

@ScoopDaddy488 Ай бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehindHad you been running an eagle 5.7 you would have worked him even worse. Gen 3’s in the classic bodies are the way to go. I own a 2010 challenger r/t and a 72 Duster with a 440 and it’s almost a 1000 pound difference. I’m putting a 6.2 demon engine in the duster with an 8 speed, because to me the lx/lc is platform is a wasted effort. I’ve did a little to my 5.7 like 392 factory shorties and cam, ported heads and intake, but that’s as far as I’m going. I only did that because I got all the parts cheap mainly from crate engine take offs.

@heikohoffmann3516 4 күн бұрын

Oldschool Wins

@farve23 3 күн бұрын

I'm not understanding the times posted . You don't run 11's with a trap speed of only 100mph.. what am I missing?

@noboltsleftbehind 3 күн бұрын

It’s a 1000ft track, not a quarter mile

@coronelrony4616 5 күн бұрын

Old THE BEST

@jeffreyrigged Ай бұрын

I basically told a guy other day this a new mustang and a 68. He was like my new stang can pop a 120 in a 1/8 mile. I told him idc if it did sexual contact while doing it id still take the 68. Looking good vs being fast any day of the week. Granted yours is as fast but id take your car even if it was much slower than his.

@antibowtie440 27 күн бұрын

Must be 1/8 mile due to the trap speeds. 11.0 times relate to 14.5 1/4 times + - . If they are satisfied good for them.

@noboltsleftbehind 27 күн бұрын

This is 1000ft, unprepped. So halfway between 1/8th and quarter mile 👍

@approachingtarget.4503 Ай бұрын

Old school all the way.

@07wrxtr1 Ай бұрын

Love the older one!! I have a “stupid nissan 370z” but I appreciate the classics…. The modern version is just a dime a dozen and with all of the sub prime financing = not the best reputation of most of the drivers put there…

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Thanks man! The ‘70 Challenger is my fun car but my daily is actually a Nissan Z car as well, a 1995 300ZX. I actually did a build series on my channel for it. Funny enough here in Southern California Nissan and Infiniti drivers have the same reputation, haha.

@07wrxtr1 Ай бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehind I think those bad drivers are unhappy and trapped in a fight/flight mode... Or psychology called them "short life path history" types - where - they "live a quarter mile at a time" while endangering the lives of people around them. I live in Phoenix for a while and did the 60 from Gilbert to Downtown - same story - you're in the 2nd lane from the exit lane minding your own business after a stressful day of solving peoples financial problems - and - BOOM - A Nissan Altima driver flys by you - you only see a blurr in your rear view mirror as just 2 seconds ago there was nothing there!! I now live a in a busy mt resort town - instead of Altima drivers - we have the lifted "dude bro/bruh" drivers here - Some locals and a TON of tourists - same problem - "I wanna see all 63 national parks BRO, in 15 minutes BRO..." So - I pull over and just let them pass... It sucks trying to own a nice car in constant fear some moron slamming into it... "itz fo duh grahm dude bruh"

@FaithfulServant316 17 күн бұрын

Very cool!...... BUTTTTTT..... Nothing more cool than the 1025hp factory built 2023 Dodge Challenger DEMON 170 However! THE LAST & ULTIMATE AMERICAN MUSCLE CAR💪😎🇺🇸

@smilsmff 20 күн бұрын

1970 has Street tire radial, Not Race R radials

@HagerTX 11 күн бұрын

Was this 1/8 mile?

@noboltsleftbehind 11 күн бұрын

No, this was 1000ft unprepped

@stockey Ай бұрын

That 70's challenger is definitely not stock.

@noboltsleftbehind Ай бұрын

Definitely not, neither is the 2020 👍

@slavikmkrtchyan1920 18 күн бұрын

1970❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊

@frankfrankly1366 3 күн бұрын

Im old.

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@PHILLY214 16 күн бұрын

New motor in that 70 is a damn shame…

@noboltsleftbehind 16 күн бұрын

Think what you’d like, but the truth is it keeps it on the road for us all to enjoy 🤘

@lorangajapp8086 28 күн бұрын

How is it old vs new when they have the same engine?A real challenger with the REAL hemi would be fun to watch against a new one.

@noboltsleftbehind 28 күн бұрын

Dude trust me, I’d love to have an original 426 Hemi in my Challenger too. The reality is nowadays that engine costs 30 grand or more and that’s just to start, you’d also have buy all of the parts to get it set up and running. Installing a modern Hemi is the way to go for a guy like me who’s building this stuff in his garage with very limited funds and needs something fast and reliable to go have fun racing at the track. Modern engine swaps keep these old cars out there on the road there for all of us to enjoy 👍

@lorangajapp8086 28 күн бұрын

@@noboltsleftbehindOh i didn't mean anything bad.Just wondering.