I think every one does.

+Manc Man typical english man

+Manc Man you really like the sound of the new F1 cars compared to the sound of the likes of the BRM above?!?

Another here. I'm English and I hate the sound of the V6 lawn mower F1 engines of today. Which is why I watch old F1 vids on YT instead now :)

+Manc Man i was at the Silverstone Classic at the weekend there and watched Mika's 2001 V10 McLaren startup(from a mere couple of metres away) and fuck me it was amazing and it needed 2 different computers to start it up. You have to remember these were the most advanced cars for there era none of this green pish no limited fuel flow or tyre saving just pure power and they were cheap unlike today's V6 turbo cars. If they sounded like the 80's turbo cars then it wouldn't be so bad but hey look what happened after that back to v12/10.

The engines will sound the same, it's the exhaust which makes them sound different.

The angle of the vee, timing of the camshafts, sequence of firing, exhaust system design will all contribute to the different sounds. I remember putting a Westlake seven port head on an A-series Rallycross mini engine. It then sounded like a Ford Kent engine.

Even these were the few teams that built their own entire cars (chassis and engines),many teams and constructors (because there still existed customer teams) used the omnipresent Ford-Cosworth DFV

Of the three I probably prefer the BRM. The Ferrari in it Vee version sounds very nice. I can take or leave the Matra.

Apart from cylinders the exhaust manifolds/headers are most important for the sound. This is why the Matra V12 sounds so diffirent in various models.

Why they made it?

ROFL! Yup, just as clever as the V16, where they used the exhaust to preheat (and then sear) the rear tires.

Cooling the engines with hot air, who would've thought. If they were less genius the team might have survived till more recent times

LOL, it's BRM...

You're welcome!

What

@@ariefrifqymjn he's another oh it's old so it must be better. Newer F1 cars handle and drive a shit ton better than that literal death trap.

@@ariefrifqymjn But will say don't sound as good. However, i like the newer engines. Won't go deaf watching a race without earplugs.

@@blainedickson747 If you are old enough to remember both, then you understand why. If you aren't, WTF would you know about it?

If BRM had continued racing in F1 their 12 V60 would have been perfect wing-car wise in the late 70s early 80s.Just lack of funds,the Teddy Pilette Conny Andersson year was the beginning of the end.Williams found Saudi money and took the winners bus as BRM dropped dead.Yet my idea is that you are a car maker only if you manufacture your own engine,and BRM did

I might get pilloried, but I think Pedro was much more proficient than Checo Pérez (No disrespect, just my personal opinion)

It must cost a small fortune to keep that car running as well as it does.

They're in better condition than they were in period. The record books would look a lot different if the historics were as well looked after back then as they are today. I reckon Lotus would have 2 or 3 more world championships for reliability alone. Especially 1977, they'd have completely dominated.

Must be a blast! Now imagine doing that in one of these V12 karts!

Grazie! Se tutto va bene domani pubblico il video della 33 12 cilindri ;)

No problem! ;)

Good read pal. Shame brm couldn't continue would have been good to see what they would have done in the late eighties when the rules were slackened after the turbo period. They were crazy enough to try out a V16 I believe.

Yes, and they raced a turbine car at LeMans in the early 60's called the Rover-BRM. In 1963 they finished 8th beating Cobras and Porsches in the race. In 1965 they finished 10th. Considering that their turbine was classified as a "2,0 liter engine" they certainly did well beating cars having a 4,7 liter displacement like the Cobra. Personally I can't come up with any valid or realistic "alternate history" scenario in which BRM survives the 70's. Hesketh, Surtees and Wolf all had to throw in the towel. It was a time of two energy crisis and unlike today there were few investors willing to rescue a struggling F1 team. The 80's by contrast was a time of excess and when one looks at what was allowed back then one wonders if everybody was high on cocaine from the management to the engineers. A turbo-BRM in the 80's would have been something to behold alright. I recall reading a car magazine a few years back in which some talented artist draw nice pictures of how these old teams could have looked had they survived and raced in F1 today. The V16 was a little bit too ambitious to work with the metallurgy and technology they had in 1949. While insanely powerful it was also nigh on undriveable with its narrow powerband. It made an unforgettable sound though. Btw, if we compare the incredibly successful Cosworth DFV first raced in 1967 to the H-16 of BRM from the same year, then the former was designed using (then) state-of-the-art engineering and tools with modern material tolerances. The machines and tools BRM used were of WWI standard (yes, the first world war) so needless to say what worked and didn't work was very much a lottery come race day. Nothing wrong with BRM's ambition and ideas. They just needed an urgent modernization of its facilities. I don't think they ever fully remedied that.

Thank you so much for your comment dude! To be honest I don't know perfectly the cars I record. But when I know there's one of which I'd like to make a dedicated video I try to look for as many information I can find. And I love discovering something new or unique history of a car

+19Bozzy92 hello boss.. i was also made in 1992 haha

+19Bozzy92 and up to date on most of your videos. plenty of hardwork i bet.

I was thinking similarly. Two radiators, four hoses all full of coolant and the heavy looking ducts all hanging out way behind the rear axle would have really messed up the polar moments of inertia. And it looked a bit of a cludge too. Not elegant engineering.

BRM entered 3 cars for the last F1 race at Oulton Park in 1972. The sound was awesome.

The management at BRM was always abysmal. They won the title in’62 because Tony Rudd was given total control and got everyone pulling in the same direction. Once he left they went back to the old bad ways. It needed a British Enzo Ferrari but such a person never materialised. A British team with their own car, V12 engine and gearbox, adequate financial backing and it all goes to pot because of clueless people in charge. Up to five cars entered into certain Grand Prix? How’s that ever going to work? Should have been two cars, run by a tight team with a guy at the top with TOTAL control. Someone like Brian Clough. Lol. What could have been.

Thanks! :D

Good times...

Thanks!

donnydorito you mean full automatic gearboxes ;)

No one would be able to keep up with how fast the up shifts and downshifts are with a manual in a modern f1 car

First i thought the same but its a air duct with a metal plate between... ;)

Masterclass in how not to design an F1 car. The British motorcycle industry were dying off at the same time for the same reason, a stubborn refusal to accept and incorporate newer technology.

That is a big oops!

That metal plate is an ass backwards, afterthought of an idea. It's not much use when it gets hot and radiates heat into the intake duct. As we all know, hot air is not good for performance. I wonder why they didn't just route the exhaust a bit differently. Oh well, the days of vintage race car engineering. Nevertheless, these old race cars are cool as hell, partly despite or because of their quirkiness!

This car is obviously a big failure, not only the exhaust. Look at the radiator, it forces the air in the wrong direction, it should be 180 degrees rotated.

Non credo, le BRM sono interessantissime

m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdOkgLWYr6jbqZs.html Compared to H16 engine, V12 is a lousy lawn mower

Martijn Vv Yes. There is a type company called Avon who still makes them. They are used on historic F1 and F5000 as well as sports cars.

440 I believe

Nothing, precisely...

The 312B had the oil-radiators in the back and the water-cooler was in the front.

Those large red ducts for the gearbox mounted oil coolers appear to be closed so that the exhaust DOESN'T blow hot air through- and cool air from above the suspension height flows through.

Para 1972 todos los V12 y B12 son 4 valvulas. El ultimo 3 valvulas fue el 312 de 1967 (escapes arriba)

I was wondering the same thing. Wouldn't that make the radiators hotter. It would be inefficient to have a design like this.

they're difficult to launch because of how stiff the clutch has to be (to accommodate for the large amount of power)

Dušan Pešić the linkages were also long and heavy and the very short gear lever needed a lot of strength and was very imprecise.

Perchè prima carico sempre i video singoli dedicati delle macchine che mi interessano poi più avanti carico il video generale

Ci vuole un bel coraggio a dire che le BRM non meritano. La BRM era un team molto competitivo e rivoluzionario

MatBR68 bump

Se riesco nella prossima settimana lo carico

back when men were men

Cars1999 That was typical of that era. The tub was made of aluminium and wasn’t very crash proof. Even with introduction of deformable structures in 1973, the driver was still horribly close to the scene of any crash. Those old tubs also had the driver surrounded by fuel instead of having it in a separate cell between the engine and the cockpit, like today. There really isn’t a lot of difference between this car and the cars of the early 60’s. Much as I love them they were dangerous and too many people died.

intercooler ? are you mad?

There's no intercooler!