Since it is Memorial Day in the United States, please take a moment to honor and mourn those who have lost their lives while serving in the military. Never forget what they have sacrificed.

1/100th of a second is as close as it can get - what a run. And a perfect match-up for Memorial Day - Red, White, and Blue. Thank you as always. And a most heartfelt thanks for those who gave all defending our freedom.

looks like the Poncho was afflicted with some sort of mechanical problem. First race was killer!

For those wondering the TA had linkage problems in the second and third runs. Linkage bolt had backed itself out of the trans case

Who won or who lost is not important for me, just seeing them run makes my day. Awesome!!!

I had a 69 1/2 AMX 500 special. Big Bad Green, 390 with Hurst quick shift. Rebuilt the engine .40 over. Cam Dynamics roller rockers and stainless steel valves among other items, Edelbrock torquer with Holley 650 cfm dual feed. Headman headers to 4' of straight exhaust to thrush turbo mufflers. Dynoed at little over 400 HP. My biggest problem was traction off the line

I love the early 70s Trans ams they have that big 455HO and I think are the best looking compared the the Camaros of this era. And that AMC is so nice too.

TA's are classic and cool....but AMC those are freaking awesome. Sure like seeing the odd cars racing. The few amc's ive seen in the flesh sure are purdy

Oooohhh maaannn...my dream race! Much love and respect for BOTH of these models. I'll say this, there was a whole lotta snickering when the Rambler boys started showing up. That is untill the competition started to see their taillights. AMC more than held its own. Love those Poncho's too! Long live AMC muscle 💪

That AMX is vey consistant and fast for under 400 CID.

Great matchup! Don't see too many '72 T/A's or '70 AMX's. Don't know a whole lot about the 455HO, but I'm guessing the '71 HO may have been a bit quicker, and with higher compression. The AMCs didn't get a lot of respect back in the day, but the AMX with the 390 was no joke...they could hang with most of the muscle cars back in the day. Nice power/weight ratio.

The AMX was pretty consistent.

The guy could drive that AMX..👍👍👍👍

In 1969 my uncle had an American Motors dealership. He called me to come up there. He had two AMX one red one metallic blue. They had been Hertz rental cars. I think 2800$. I bought the blue because it had brown saddle looking leather.. 343 cu in. Auto. They had the go package, but the car never ran as good as it should. I think but not sure borg Warner transmissions. I had problems with the transmissions. I had the trans rebuilt but when I traded it in the trans was bad again.

458 Trans Ams in 1972... 276 Formulas with the 455 HO. I have a 455 HO Formula, Th400, it runs mid 12s with a set of headers and 3.08 gears. Its kinda heavy with power everything. Thinking I should build my 71 Formula 400 into a 455 HO clone since its no AC, Th400 and manual everything else. The round port 455s are no joke. Cars and Zebras, the 71 455 HO was round port with 197 heads, the 72 had 7F6 heads, not much difference in them really. Then the SD had round ports too. When everyone else was building 16 second slugs, Pontiac was going fast with 87 octane compatible compression.

What a great race!! Man!! I had a 69 Javelin with the 390, and T-10.. Loved that car. Thank you to the men and women who died in defense of our freedoms.. Thank you C&Z!!

Man I hope that Trans Am isn't broken. The '70 to '72 is my favorite T/A, especially in blue. And while I like the Javelin better, '70 is also the best year for it and the AMX with that super cool hood and the improved 390. Both great cars and thanks for calling us dummies! It's good to have the humor back.

Two great car's. I have alway's wanted an AMX, but would love both.

I love them AMX'S!

The first race was super close. The second and third I think the T/A had a problem. Thumb up.

I sure miss my 72 T/A. ThT car was a blast 👍😎✌️

I was pleasantly surprised by the e.t.s of the AMX. I was expecting at most high 13s.

Watching this while looking at my neighbors yellow AMC across the street

Both cars are absolutely gorgeous cars, I would be completely fine with owning either one. Great racing starting out, but you can tell the poncho was having issues the last two races. Thanks for sharing the races, keep them coming.

Wow...both cars were pretty quick!

Them borg warner T transmissions when they were set up right and driven right they were some badass pieces of machinery

Looked like the Poncho was limping after that first run.

Love both cars I've always thought it would be fun having a AMX. On the other hand I'm a Tranz am / Formula Firebird fan.both cars are beautiful and fast. Good video

Wow that was a blast from the past it was awesome keep them coming!.....👍

I like the name Firebird more than Camaro. Eventhough GM axed Pontiac in favor of Buick (because China), I wish they would have kept the Firebird brand.

Damn as soon as I seen that Trans Am I soiled my pleated pants!!!

Oh snap!! At second 13 you know it means business when the beauty rings come off.

Awesome , Thanks C&Z 😊

That's really cool! Firebird did good! Even compared 2days junk on the road the firebird can still compete!

I've had 69 amx 343, Machine, 2 Javelins 390. Most folks don't know what they are, lol. Especially the Machine. Under rated bigtime. Long live AMC !! 😍

I figured the AMX based on lighter weight. Another thing that obscures matters a bit was American Motors back in the day had a catalog of performance parts ...it may have been Group 18 parts for the 390 that really warmed the 390 up along with the 3.91 gear. In this race both cars were indecently fast for pure stockers. The 455 HO. Running a 12.96 with 109 terminal speed? Maybe. I did run into a 455 S.D. coming out of Willow Springs years ago that gave my modified 425 hp Panters a tussle up to around 145 at which point I ran him out of gears. I only ever ran into one AMX that I considered fast on the street back in the day and he stated that he'd bought quite a few pieces from the dealers catalog that had dropped his e.t. by around 1.5 seconds. At the time I had a 1967 Corvette with an LS6 short b l ock and the top end was off the 427 435 hp engine.with the 3x2 intake. That Corvette was running a 3.36 posi hi speed rear end and weould veasily pull to over 155 in 4th at redline. Qtr mile driving off the line and shifting quickly would put the car thru the quarter at 13.04 at 110 The car went thru the lights in 2nd at 6650 rpm a little over redline. I raced the AMX from a 20 mph roll and beat him by around 2 carlengths . He was on cheater slicks and was according to him running 390 gears. I doubt that I could have beat him from a standing start. Point is I was making st least 450 hp and 480 ft lbs of torque with the Corvette . And I weighed probably around 100 to 150 lbs less. Which means that that 390 was making WAY more than 325 hp and 430 ft lbs of torque. We see the same in these 3 races. The AMX tr a p speed stays at 109 mph as the et varies from high 12s to a low 13. That AMX is making some serious hp.. north of 400 hp... and the torque is probably 20 ft lbs higher than 430 also. For certain it is not pure Stock as delivered from the dealer back in the day. Interestingly enough there's an older gentleman where I live in Nebraska who owns a dark green AMX in VERY nice condition. I observed him bolting on an aluminium high rise intake and a set of headers one day last year. He claimed he had collected some genuine AMC parts from the Group 18 ....or some number around there... Catalog with AMC part numbers. Among other things he had shaved the heads a bit was running thin head gaskets had a hotter hydraulic cam with different springs and rockers the intake the headers a distributer with some kind of electronic box for hotter spark. He had a 3.9 gear and a 4 speed. He claimed the changes boosted the hp to a bit over 400 hp. He also stated that he had to use 100 octane gasoline. He had noticed my 64 Fairlane 500 daily driver which runs 289 hi performance badges on the front fenders which the car had when it left the factory. He wanted to know if I'd race him when he had his car back together. I told him sure but from a 20 mph roll and for half a mile. The Fairlane has a 331 ci motor making 420 hp and 385 ft lbs of torque. It runs 10 to 1 comp has AFR heads a full roller valve train with a Comp hydraulic roller cam long tube headers Edelbrock air gap Performer Rpm manifold with a 3310 holley carb. Out back is a Tremec 5 spd w .68 od and an 8 inch locker with 3.5 gears. The car has uprated springs Bilstein Sport shocks an export brace and a Monte Carlo bar tied into the shock towers. It runs T/A radials on 15 inch Americ a n Racing wheels 7 in. In front and 8 in in back. Tires are 215 50s in front and 235 50s in rear. Anyway he got his car together and we met for the agreed upon race. For the first time he noticed the shift pattern on the shift know which showed it was a 5 speed not a 4 speed. We both pretty well understood what going to happen and it did. From the low speed roll the AMX grabbed about a car length which got whittled down to around half a carlength at the quarter mile mark. After that the Fairlane walked away as he ran out of gears. The AMx would have beaten me considerably in a standing start quarter mile. With the aluminium heads sluminium radiator aluminium intake aluminium water pump I had to weigh at least 200 lbs less than the AMX. All of which tells me that with the right parts the AMC 390 could produce in excess of 400 hp as we see it doing in these 3 races. As I recall the 390 AMC did quite well in their designated stock class back in the dsyvwhen they were new.

Wow, that first race showed how equal these 2 cars were. It was a drivers race and looks like the TA was having trouble shifting otherwise they were both equal.

Something happened to Trans Am when he shifted in to 3rd ? The AMX ran good for a smaller motor .

Two excellent cars. I loved the AMX when it first came out. They were very rare to see on the street. Great race. Thanks again.

I love Pontiacs but I had to root for the AMX on this one. Simply because there are so few of them and I always thought they were cool and different. That poncho def had some sort of trans issues going on or the driver shifts like me!! Thanks for the vid always good to see em run. 👍

My dad had a 1969 AMC AMX. He ordered it without the stripes and with a metallic dark blue paint job 😎 I so wish that I had that car now

I would happily own either of these beauties, or both!

I’ve always liked the underdog the AMC AMX, one because you hardly ever see them on the road and two because I used to live next door to a guy who had two Javelins in his backyard. Both vehicles being about the same car, one without a backseat and shorter wheel base.

That AMX & driver was consistent, (12.9, 12.9, 13.0) and that's the key to bracket racing.

I had a 72 H.O. 4 speed T/A. Crazy Torque! I still own a 70 T/A auto w/air

Goodday C & Z, Finally a AMC & nothing but the best a 1970 AMX with the Go Pack. Delicious Trans Am as well. Nice close race the first 1. Have you bought a replacement for the Chevelle? Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

My best friend had a Lucie Blue '72 T/A, 455 H.O. 4 Speed his father handed down. It had the Honey Comb's. His father, Hank was a designer for Pontiac. I got to go for a ride in the 1974 Pontiac Banshee III Prototype. 455 SD Auto. Talk about turning heads. I have a few pictures. Ahh the '70's.

Man, that AMX style blows away any other US muscle car. Some muscle cars are so fugly, like the Superbird.

A tight race on the first round. Those are beautiful cars but I have to say the American motors cars were always my favorite 👍

Great job once again, keep them coming.

Trans Am guy was like.. ahh. One is good enough. I'm gonna cruise the next two

I think it's safe to say that the Trans Am was experiencing some sort of mechanical issue in the last two rounds. Possibly clutch. 🤷🏿‍♂️

72 lowest production year for TA. The heads are same as 71 455 HO as far as I know. A 72 4spd would def be something to have. I love the Lucerne Blue/White 👌🏼

My guess is the Trans Am missed 3rd gear. It happens to the best of us. Both cars are very strong. They are nearly tied with each other. Awesome

Love the narration, man. Well done

2 of my top 5 muscle/pony cars. Awesome beauties. Great race. Hope the T/A isn't hurt too bad. Actually didn't know these two were that rare. I knew they weren't a dime a dozen but woe.

Both cars are iconic. Thanks for the vid!

Lets go 1972 Pontiac Trans Am!!... 🐦🐦🐦🐦🔥🔥

Always a good match here, great content

Outrageous racing. Super tight

Those 390’s and 401’s were great little small block powerhouses.

Amc go package !

Great cars!

Don’t remember what year but the Alabama State Patrol used the AMX Javelin for their patrol car.

There's a lot of cars on this channel but I want to see some zebras too.

It's the AMX for me

The guy with the AMX has been at the track a few times before!😀

Hey hey

GOTTA ADMIT THAT AMX IS SURPRISINGLY FAST AND 43O TORQUE WOW ... BUT I'LD STILL RATHER HAVE THAT BEAUTIFUL TRANS AM !!!!!!!

Me and my dad are currently in the process of building a 1979 trans am. It's got the shaker hood and a 400 from a 1968 Pontiac GTO with the number 16 heads Long tube headers mid-cam 3-in X-Pipe exhaust system with the violator mufflers. Next I definitely want to put 410 rear and gears in it I really don't care to take it on the highway I just wanted to get out of the hole like there's no tomorrow. Yes it's got the 400 turbo automatic 😢 sorry I don't have a manual. Considering that but people have told me it doesn't matter all that much not to get hung up on it.

Detroit Muscle! Raise the compression ratio on the Pontiac. AMX yeah!

Funny how different these two cars were performance wise when new and now they now match up so closely...

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Awesome the 390 AMC engine....!! Able to beat a big block

1st run about as close as you can hope for....the 'max was running him down. Wouldnt complain to have either in my garage!

Both cars are sweet. I'll take the AMX tho, just a little more character. Very consistent too, especially with a stick. Nice driving

what do those pistons look like to get 8.4 out of a 115cc chamber?

I knew it was going to come down to the clutch. HaHa

Both nice cars I'd rather have the AMC

So taken with Camaros when I was young I just didnt notice TAs enough. They were hands down way better looking cars inside/out Love the Javs and AMX just as much would give an eyetooth to own either as a retirement driver. Even with a 6 banger they are just too cool

Love the AMX, I would like to have the 4x4 AMC Gremlin, or, whatever the 4x4 model is, I forget.

I'm very curious what happened n last 2 races to TransAm. Reminds me of a throwout bearing go bad.

The TA the HP was under rated by over 100 HP

Love the comments. The AMX gave up 65 CID. A.M. should have put in the 401. That would be A Vet/stag killer.

I think if the AMX had slightly taller gears, she might have even ran a little better. That 390 winds up a lot quicker than the longer stroke 455 and was getting out of it's power band a little early from what I observed. If I remember correctly, AMC had a 3.73 diff option, but it was a Dealer install option. If you bought an AMX new, the next taller gear ratio from the 3.91 was the 3.54. Compression Ratio also had a factor. Those extra 65 cube's weren't sqeezin' as hard as that 390. That's where that torque comes from. If the Firebird was against a '72' Javelin AMX, 401/4 speed, at 8.5 C/R, the Firebird would have womp it all day long. If the AMX was against a '70' 400 c.u. Firebird, I think it would lose that race as well. I grew up in Kenosha Wi. so I've always been partial to AMC products and you can make em' run with the best of them. It just cost's more. Back in the '70's a performance cam & lifters for a small block chevy was under a hundred bucks, while the cam alone for my 401 was over 150 bucks. Overall I think AMC's are underrated. I had a '72" Ambassador 4dr sedan, 360/4bbl/duel exhaust that completely destroyed a (new at the time) '85' Iroc Camero from a dead stop. To this day, I always think about how that guy must have felt about getting his ass kicked by a "Rambler". Any AMC fans in my area, drop me a line. I'd love to shoot the shit. Best regards fellow gear heads.

Looks like Trans Am collapsed in the heat of the moment!!...🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

Oh yeah 👍

Please do more videos…..

You could get the round port heads and Is the aluminum intake manifold in 71 and 72

Still no 72 to 74 cuda?

AMC all day baby.

Lololololol “well you’re a dumb dumb”

Awesome cars, but I believe there was either driver error or issues with the T/A

how is it these cars run 12s, given that they're nearly bone stock?

T/A missed the shift in the second and third race.

Yes he had trouble shifting.

Pontiac driver definitely had problems shifting in 2 and 3.

The TA better win!

your videos are all great i watch them all the time but please say foot pounds of torque like a torque wrench says

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