In which I boot into extended BASIC and load and play “Star Trek” on original computer equipment from 1975.
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@nrnoble Жыл бұрын
What I like about this video is that it is shown in real-time and not edited or sped up. It shows what it was really like for those who used the Altair in 1975, which was leading-edge computing at that time. By today's standards, its unbearably slow, but in 1975 it was impressive to be able to have a computer that was smaller than a mainframe that often took up an entire floor of an office building.
@mrkitty777 Жыл бұрын
In 1975 the Altair used paper rolls with tiny holes that represented the machine bytes in memory. There was no cassette input. The computer museum has images of it.
@williamlancto3655 Жыл бұрын
@@mrkitty777 It looks like in 1975 there was one called the 88-ACR, quick google search shows a couple of documents about it dating from 1975.
@caturlifelive Жыл бұрын
Agreed Neal
@IrishCarney Жыл бұрын
But then it would have taken even longer to load BASIC. No instant boot of BASIC. And having that much RAM in 1975 would have been astonishing and ultra ultra expensive
@AmstradExin3 жыл бұрын
48K Of RAM! That's almost a new car!
@shinyhorse80452 жыл бұрын
😄👍
@capnrob977 ай бұрын
I played that Star Trek game in a Radio Shack store on the TRS-80 they had on display there. Was cool to be a kid when all the PCs starting coming out.
@artmaknev37382 жыл бұрын
Just amazing, the inventor of Altair is a genious that nobody knows, he should be known as the father of PC!
@TIAHQ Жыл бұрын
That PC is so versatile it aint even funny
@Aeroguy_09 Жыл бұрын
The makers of it are Microsoft. And the two people who made it are Bill Gates and Paul Allen.
@Silvertone58 Жыл бұрын
Totally false. It was invented by Ed Roberts and Forrest M. Mims III
@sassymenses Жыл бұрын
@@Aeroguy_09 you trolling? Microsoft only developed BASIC for it
@mrkitty777 Жыл бұрын
Gates found Basic language interpreter in a recycle bin at Harvard it's computer department. Allen and Gates changed it so to run on the Altair instead of a PDP. Gates is well known for modifying existing products and pretending it's his invention. MS Dos was actually Q Dos which Gates bought for 50000 and Q Dos was stolen from Digital Research founder Gary Kildall who was later murdered by a hit on the head. When Gates friend Paul Allen got cancer Bill tried to dispose of him but Allen oerheard Steve Ballmer and Gates dividing his shares of Microsoft by accident. Paul Allen compared Ballmer with a German which i don't mention here.
@caeserromero30133 жыл бұрын
You had time to watch an episode of Star Trek waiting for the game to load...
@falopatube Жыл бұрын
I remember old days when you use a stone to store up to 4 kb. You had to be rich in order to buy a stone writer. There was a hammer inside attached to a spring which made small holes as they represented 0's and 1's. They were read by a brush spinning at 50 rpm. Those pc's were powered by pedals you had to push with your feet.
@mrkitty777 Жыл бұрын
I remember a thousand year old Abacus that is driven by hand to calculate fast. It will last another thousand year easily.
@HupfderFloh Жыл бұрын
Teaching sand to think was a mistake, but alas, we wanted miniaturization.
@TheVicar Жыл бұрын
@@mrkitty777 Mine broke after I installed an update
@mrkitty777 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVicar lol 😆😄 i got a fatal exception with my abacus when calculating 707 + 707 = 1414 when reading upside down.
@wrkey Жыл бұрын
I played this game on a TRS-80 back in the late 70s'! I thought it was fun and amazing that it worked like it did.
@mmille10 Жыл бұрын
I played it on my friend's C-64 in the mid-80s. Good times. :)
@Chris.Davies Жыл бұрын
One of the best computer games ever. I used to play it in RT-11 BASIC on a PDP-11 in the early 80s, at school. I seem to recall porting it to my Superboard II in 1983 using PEEK and POKE to the screen to make a zero-scroll version on the game. IIRC I managed to get it to run with 8-bytes of free memory, of my 64KB total, comprising 128x 2114 memory chips! Good times!
@ragrabau3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the days of loaded and storing programs on cassette tape, I remember them well. It also was a great improvement when I got my Northstar Floppy disk drive in 1978. Now my IMSAI, has seen many improvements, including 8 inch floppy drives and 2 20 MB HD's. Slowly restoring my IMSAI back to health as it hasn't run in about 30+ years.
@timothycolegrove43653 жыл бұрын
Robert Grabau I’d like to get cp/m on this machine. The trick is finding and making a disk image
@ragrabau3 жыл бұрын
@@timothycolegrove4365 I really depends on the disk controller. If you have brand xyzzy (in which nothing happens), then all you need is the BIOS. Right now there are a few new controllers on the market. The one I am going to use for my new S100 system is the FDC from s100computers.com. This system is a 2 board solution - SBC z80 with on board CF storage (enough to get CP/M running) and the z80 based FDC board to talk to a real 8 inch floppy drive so I can pull a lot of the software I have on the hundreds of 8 inch disks that I have.
@eileenlucynakurosawa7421 Жыл бұрын
You have a history device
@mrkitty777 Жыл бұрын
Altair ran on paper rolls originally. This modified Altair didn't exist.
@cloerenjackson36993 жыл бұрын
Good to see people younger than I am protecting these old beasts.
@devcybiko Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim - I'm time traveling back from 2022. I'd forgotten how long programs took to load. The "classic" Star Trek game was fun to play in the day - and even more fun to program as it teaches a TON of lessons in computer programming. Thanks for sharing this.
@BilalHeuser115 күн бұрын
Its really nice to see classic computer tech like this that is still working today!
@sideshowrod1312 Жыл бұрын
I remember playing this game on my Commodore PET and later, on a DEC VAX using a teletype terminal (no screen, just printed the output). Great times!
@rwfrench66GenX Жыл бұрын
OMG, so you’re to blame for deforestation 😂
@zwebsterz Жыл бұрын
Man, that brings back memories from my college days. Thanks!
@reddog68u3 жыл бұрын
Good lord turning that thing on is like starting an airplane. Thunderbirds we are go.. blastoff
@Skraeling10003 жыл бұрын
My dad used to be a computer engineer on such monoliths as the ICT 1301 (google it). That had to be booted manually, with all the commands linked to lit switches. Oh, and the input was punched cards!
@reddog68u3 жыл бұрын
@@Skraeling1000 the uss enterprise 1701 had that type of switches James T Kirk would be so happy seeing this museum piece
@Skraeling10003 жыл бұрын
@@reddog68u Beam me back in time, Scotty!
@stefansondergaard Жыл бұрын
Played that game on a Compucorp computer otherwise used for calculations for 155mm howitzers in the army back in 1983.
@jamesthompson3099 Жыл бұрын
Brings back memories. I'm old enough to have built one when they first came out and ran basic on it after Bill released it. Star Trek was an awesome game for the time. Even on my current M1 iMac it looks like fun. 🤣
@ladronsiman14713 жыл бұрын
I always wanted an Altarir computer ..I recall having the 1974 popular Electronics where it was on the cover ..Time went by and i became an Intel engineer .. and never had that chance ..Ahhhh !
@ragrabau Жыл бұрын
You mean Jan 75 issue which had the Altair 8800 on the cover.
@nicholasgrippo1754 Жыл бұрын
Love the terminal. It's what I used for my computer hardware design class. Amazing piece of history and I hope to find one one day.
@IrishCarney Жыл бұрын
Those 70s terminals really had a classic look. Unlike many other old devices (cell phones for instance), they don't look horribly outdated
@robynmcleod96309 ай бұрын
A friend of mine has a tabletop game called Living Constellations, an interstellar space setting where the tech level is often limited to the 70s or so. Most of my computer knowledge is more mid-80s to late 90s, so I'm watching videos of older stuff to familiarize myself a little more with consumer-level electronics of the time. This video was very freaking cool and useful.
@ct924043 жыл бұрын
"Damn it, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a computer programmer!"
@davidmcfarland25314 ай бұрын
When I was a student at UC Berkeley back in the late 1970’s, my friends and I would go to Evans Hall late at night and play this game with a room full of other students. This was on a PDP 11/70
@eileenlucynakurosawa7421 Жыл бұрын
Amazing to see this computer actually working. Impressive for that time load software from tape. Dreams factory I think And now we have such a monster power in our pockets today with no surprise or enthusiasm.
@PointReflex Жыл бұрын
We dont get surprised anymore because the leaps in technology are just the standart increment of raw power. Plus, we all have been in touch with technology for more than a decade, so we are very oh so much used to it and know what to expect. People on 1975 barely ever saw, let alone interact, with a home computer, so any kind of change was felt like a groundbreaking achievement.... Because it was.
@CoconutPete10 күн бұрын
I always assumed the 8800 didn't do anything other have the lights blink ha
@shibolinemress8913 Жыл бұрын
Darn, I was hoping to watch you play a bit! Great video though! In 1975 I was 12 and still several years away from my first computer experience, so these things looked like scifi at the time!
@robertfrase3846 Жыл бұрын
This was the VERY first computer (Altair 8800 and while it seems to be a different Star Trek game) I was introduced to by my uncle in May of 1978. But I seem to remember he had the game on an 8" disk drive. The Star Trek game I played was a 10x10 grid.. if my memory holds up. It also had . . . . Periods, *, E. What memories...
@GNXClone Жыл бұрын
I got a listing of this exact game from my step father's mini-computer where he worked. I ported it to Apple-Soft BASIC (Apple-II) when I was 15 years old. That was it, I was hooked on computer programming and have been doing it ever since. Wish I still had that listing. There was another game listing I got too, it was called "wumpus".
@oleksandr3275 Жыл бұрын
Wow ! It starts like spaceship !
@ericatkinson1412 Жыл бұрын
I played this game on an HP-200f mini-computer over a modem using an NCR 775 terminal thermal printer. in 1975.
@rob12489964 ай бұрын
When I opened the box for my 8800B I got the sinking feeling that there was no way that all these parts could work. But they did. I also had the same feeling for the ADM terminal. Then came the reality that I had no idea what to do with this stuff.
@loyaertsthibe9057 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help.
@cb314 Жыл бұрын
I remember typing all instructions of this program on Commodore 64 C. It was a looooong day
@scottfranco1962 Жыл бұрын
That looks very much like my original setup from 1977, except that I saw everyone using a cassette tape and realized that this was a major handicap. I spent most of my money for a floppy disk drive and went to CP/M. Thus, not everyone in this era went with this primitive setup.
@joecan Жыл бұрын
So intuitive!
@romanb.65289 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Wagoo Жыл бұрын
On the program loading, maybe best to use a cassette deck where you can have speaker and line out activated at the same time so you can just hear when the program is complete
@hadihassan3722 жыл бұрын
We’ve come a long way
@ace942 Жыл бұрын
I remember playing a similar game on my Atari 800XL. Sometimes our friends would pretend to be on the starship enterprise and one person would be the captain and the other person would be the one executing the command based on what the "captain" said. I forgot how long it used to take to load programs on cassettes. It was so much faster once I got a floppy disk drive.
@AndreasDelleske Жыл бұрын
This is how I got into computing around 1979 with an Alpha LSI II and punchtape on a teletype. Loading Startrek took 20 minutes. Loading Basic a little less. We had 16 kWords of RAM for BASIC and application.
@KrautRockt2 жыл бұрын
hey, dude thanks for upload! ...your GrauKappenHIppieNerd from chemnitz..
@chiappettamark Жыл бұрын
That was an amazing game. Romulan antimatter pods and all.
@DA-ou7hv Жыл бұрын
She's a beast Scotty...
@josepherhardt164 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1980 version of this game that I ported to an IBM PC compatible to run under its BASIC. It had a 6x6 galaxy grid and 10x10 sector grid. Later ported it to compiled DOS BASIC, and later ported it again to Visual BASIC (basically just ran the original version in a text window with a couple of extra button controls). I also saw an IBM mainframe version of this game ca. 1977. I still play it occasionally. At long game, expert level, there are game numbers (random start numbers) that will generate games almost impossible to beat. When you have 88 K's with 6 or so commanders and cross-galaxy tractor beams that can haul your depleted butt into an ambush, what can you do? You can often abandon ship, get traded in a prisoner exchange and wind up as caption of the Faerie Queene. :) In my game, escaping an ambush by attempting to leave the quadrant means the escape direction is randomized--you're not certain where you'll wind up. Good times. Edit: Various versions of this game had different added features. In mine, you can (if subspace radio is still working), ask to have the entire ship teleported to the nearest star base. Because you most often end up as a scattered cloud of atoms, you only use this option when all else fails. In another, the Enterprise had an "experimental death ray." Also only for use in emergency situations. Sometimes it would work and kill all the K's in a sector grid. Sometimes it would kill all life in the galaxy, including you. And sometimes you'd get the message, "DEATH RAY CREATES 2 KLINGONS IN QUADRANT." When the ship's computer got damaged, you found yourself doing on-the-fly arctangents for pointing the torpedoes, and you got to be pretty good at it. In most games, running at warp 10 would, if it didn't blow the engines, occasionally toss you back in time a bit so that you had extra time to kill the remaining Klingons. As I said, good times!
@georgemaragos2378 Жыл бұрын
Hi - A great game in many different versions Earliest the heading were i think between 1 and 6 - like a compass Some had computer / calc you entered coordinance and it gave you the angle, you has some leeway if the enemy was at say 3.0 you would score a kill with 2.87 - 3.15 or similar You can obtain the game and the source code to Mike Mayfield original version - very similar to that is displayed on this video A late version around dos 3-4 time saw it using curser keys to nagivate a lotus 123 style menu EGA trek by Nels Anderson is the one you mention with the death ray - i have i think 4 versions of it, it is about 1 of 6 shareware items that i have bought and registered. It is a game i have played for 30 years !! Mostly all the same, except later version you use load or mine, most notable the last versions the star trek key words are removed due to copywrite infingement Regards George
@josepherhardt164 Жыл бұрын
@@georgemaragos2378 Thanks so much for the trip down Memory Lane. :)
@troysvisualarts3 жыл бұрын
Been playing Fallout 3 recently and I bet the inspiration for the 70s style computer terminals in Fallout 3 came from the Altair terminal! Anyways enjoyed the video, very interesting to see how an early computer worked and great to see they can be made to work today!
@StrawHatTony4202 жыл бұрын
I've been playing fallout for years and I didnt even think of this until I saw your comment lol. It really does look like a terminal. 😮
@AlexandrTVOfficialChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@StrawHatTony420 it looks like a terminal because it is a terminal
@crazyguyjacob2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexandrTVOfficialChannel lmao
@TheHighSpaceWizard3 жыл бұрын
I used to have this star trek game on the trs-80 model 3
@nicsure3 жыл бұрын
Nice original hardware there.
@caturlifelive Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@MAX_DARKIAN Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes looks like your starting a airplane
@terlinguabay2 ай бұрын
I played that on TTY back in '77.
@fordprefect80 Жыл бұрын
What is the load speed from tape on the Altair? On the Commodore 64's datasette the standard transfer rate was about 50 bytes/s.
@edivaldojose4294 Жыл бұрын
nossa que lindo! nunca vi um desses obrigada
@quantumphaser Жыл бұрын
I can't believe you're talking about back doors with that girl standing right there.
@michaelmier95123 жыл бұрын
So it is just a cassette tape. Amazing!
@AudieHolland3 жыл бұрын
*just a cassette tape* The alternative would have been a big tape recorder. Compact cassette tapes were invented in the 1960s but became a cultural phenomenon in the 1970s and 1980s.
@pauliewalnuts2527 Жыл бұрын
This is like a sweet old hot rod for computer nerds
@user-tx8tm9kz7j Жыл бұрын
Интересный канал, и так мало подписчиков, это несправедливо....
@agussubekti73813 жыл бұрын
Cool Computer
@adamchalkley9567 ай бұрын
Hi Timothy, I'm quite new to the world of the Intel 8080 and Altair 8800. I've came to this video after reading Charles Petzold's "Code second edition". He builds a tapered-down version of the 8080 and describes how this computer used the 8080. I'm wondering how did you manage to get the BASIC interpreter to run on the 8080? Wouldn't you need to toggle the machine instructions into memory by hand(switches)? In other words, how did you get the BASIC interpreter loaded into memory? Thanks
@timothycolegrove43657 ай бұрын
I have extended BASIC on ROMs on an EPROM card installed in the machine. You can also load BASIC via cassette or paper tape.
Shields Up. Then scan for klingons! I still play this game on my C64 emulator!
@markhill3858 Жыл бұрын
I think I played this game, or very similar, on an Apple II :)
@simonhanlon7518 Жыл бұрын
I was expecting a raster version of the Sega vector star trek 😊
@transformator90158 ай бұрын
Это писец просто поиграть!
@cpnscarlet Жыл бұрын
Like running a player piano in 1925. Like playing a wax cylinder in 1935. Like driving a horse and buggy in 1945. Like playing a 78 record in 1965, Like using an adding machine in 1975. Shall I go on?
@RealMesaMike3 жыл бұрын
Played the same game on the old IMSAI 8080. Didn't have BASIC in ROM though. Had to load it from cassette first, then load the game. You using the Tarbell cassette interface?
@youtube-ventura3 жыл бұрын
Did it play a nice game of chess?
@michaelheinrich443 жыл бұрын
@@youtube-ventura 'worldwide thermonuclear war' i guess 😉
@mikecronis3 жыл бұрын
I actually played this in 1975.
@timothycolegrove43653 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Жыл бұрын
How much power does this thing draw?
@Grunchy005 Жыл бұрын
"I'm not going to play through this game," ??????? but that's what I came to see??
@darronsanderson48373 жыл бұрын
"Hey, Computer"...
@infinitecanadian Жыл бұрын
Why are the switches inset into the front panel?
@timothycolegrove4365 Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean. This is how they are supposed to look. See original advertising material..
@MrJay1974093 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a commodore 64.
@LOL-mb9kn Жыл бұрын
RIP altair
@user-td9pk7bz6k Жыл бұрын
メカニカルキーボード👍
@MAX_DARKIAN Жыл бұрын
My dad told me about this game
@ikonix360 Жыл бұрын
In the late 90s I tried a star trek type game and did it in Microsoft Qbasic. Had a divide by zero error I never could figure out. Eventually lost interest in it.
@mallikarjunakaveti89083 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting 🫡
@capriomrowkicz17512 жыл бұрын
First PC ever?
@rwfrench66GenX Жыл бұрын
Those fans sound like a server room 😂
@ameriscm73513 жыл бұрын
how did you add a rom to the altair? it boots basic so quick
@timothycolegrove43653 жыл бұрын
I bought a 16k rom card from some old industrial S100 machine and programmed 16 rom chips with extended BASIC using an old chip programmer.
@markrosenthal91086 ай бұрын
Anybody remember Creative Computing magazine?
@triplebackspace3623 Жыл бұрын
Computer guy circa 1975 " You betcha boss . I 'm working my butt off down here. Say , I'm starting my program now you want to go to the corner coffee shop with me and grab a cup while it loads."
@csnyder23 Жыл бұрын
Except the only coffee shops in most towns was the cafe at Kmart.
@loganq Жыл бұрын
33 lights and not one shows data transfer from the cassette?
@andrewjenery1783 Жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff and takes me back a few years, but how is the USS Enterprise going to destroy 36 Klingon cruisers with 10 photon torpedoes?
@mrkitty777 Жыл бұрын
Does not compute
@talon12020 Жыл бұрын
You resupplied at a starbase.
@mr._ejiire Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think that there might be a kid watching this, saying "where's the game?"
@fatihfajral3 жыл бұрын
👍
@goofyahhahhproductions32663 жыл бұрын
POV: using the school computers
@glen4cindy Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and cool video. It’s a little scary that there’s no indication that the data is loading from the tape. How do you know the computer isn’t frozen?
@SweetTodd Жыл бұрын
@@tripplefives1402 He has a point though. How would one figure out why it keeps flashing red lights?
@cholomanaba2770 Жыл бұрын
rule #7 of the computer programmer: wear climbing boots when programming, in case a mountain suddenly appears in the middle of the computer room.... (sight) those good old days!
@davidzamora9510 Жыл бұрын
You can play Doom in that thing
@An_aviator2 жыл бұрын
That every other dude: But does it run Doom?
@ivanscottw Жыл бұрын
I wished you could have just typed "LIST" so we could see the program
@Simcore9993 жыл бұрын
but does it play the star trek song?
@timothycolegrove43653 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f72pgc-Gz5vRgoU.html
@Simcore9993 жыл бұрын
@@timothycolegrove4365 I wanted to hear the: OoooooOooooooOooooOOoOOO one but ok, you got me!
@ianmi4i7272 жыл бұрын
At that time it was necessary to have almost a NASA doctorate to use the Altair efficiently, compared with today!!!!
@telengardforever7783 Жыл бұрын
Back when computers were magical. Now they are just overblown Facebook machines.
@SweetTodd Жыл бұрын
What kind of computer you using that only runs Facebook?
@crc_mids86082 жыл бұрын
You sound like John Krazinski.
@ardent.arch93 Жыл бұрын
Woahhh it's a text-based game?
@michaelheinrich443 жыл бұрын
the other hand reads 'false'? 😉
@josiemcbride36462 жыл бұрын
And adults from this ara need help finding the cellphone icon to make a phone call on touch screens