I’d never realized she actually was the originator of that tumble. Pretty crazy when you consider how much LESS cushioning the floor had then.

@@saragrant9749Aleftina Priakhina and Svetlana Boguinskaya did it first

@@iliitchwieopw they did? Is it on video? I’d like to see their efforts in completing that tumble- for comparison to see who had the best form. Still crazy to think they could do that on so much less cushioning on the floor.

@@saragrant9749 yes. Just search for Aleftina Priakhina and Svetlana Boguinskaya double double. Both did better than Silivas

@@saragrant9749 I know and people who say that gymnastics now is harder should bear that in mind.

I feel they should give them the bronze still. Especially since East Germany doesn’t even exist

@@beautitudes It did until 1989... What difference does that make anyway? Don't get me wrong, I think the USA girls deserved the bronze, but the fact the east Germans were from a country that no longer exists should not be a factor here.

@QPHashSS77 Kersten was the most overscored East German. She was treated like a star when she was really past her prime and peaked in 85. Thuemler was better than her and got lower scores. Thuemler's scores were about right but Kersten's should have been brought down to the same or lower than Thuemler across the board, and of course fell on beam.. Worst was Kersten's vaulting which sucked badly and regularly got 9.90+. With their depleted team due to injury and only 5 gymnasts, and now counting some falls, Kersten's scores dropped drop them to 5th, even with the U.S bogus political deduction.

They would’ve gotten bronze if it wasn’t for that deduction.😕

That’s how it was back then- the judges were in the pockets of certain countries. Most of the results back then were disgustingly tainted.

forever Shushunouva ten

R.I.P #YelenaShushonova

@@mausibat6148 just crazy how life can turn. She accomplished greatness though.

@@mariagoyan7916 LOL

@@saragrant9749 She was lucky,,,,didn't really accomplish anything

What exactly was wrong with her, I still haven’t picked up on what was actually going on?

@saragrant9749 She injured her knee prior to the games... she hadnt been able to train to the level she needed to due to the recovery, so she wasnt anywhere near her best.

@@mikeg8375 oh wow, ouch!! I’ve known a few people who did that and it’s such a painful healing process. My respect to her for doing all she was able to do in spite, but you’re right- what could have been.

Except for that fake group hug at the end. So phony! Team USA really hid their true feelings well with that hug.

And the abuse

And the scoring bias.

@@saragrant9749 Do you really think that Romania got benefits from judges? Like ever? Really?

@@stanm1977 I’m referring to the SOVIETS in this case. Since you asked however, there’s absolutely no question that Romania got plenty of gifts in the first several years after the Soviet Union was gone. Don’t think so? Look at some of the medals earned between 1996 and 2000 that did not in any way belong to a Romanian athlete. Esther Moya of Spain is a prime example- she should have gotten bronze on floor in Sydney, not Simona Amanar… WHO STEPPED OUT OF BOUNDS!!

She was only 19;here.

​@@gillydey9764Looked like a woman of 50. Those hairstyles, man...

And she had the best splits on the beam.

Here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLibqNCr29Kpe2Q.html

@@kentiemacgymnastics9885 Thank you!!!! 🥺

And Dobre’s scar !

They were very harsh on the USA girls on vault, beam too. Yet look at the mistakes the East Germans made on beam and the scores they got. Shameful!

Yet it is the same in reverse today. Some routines performed by a U.S girl sometimes (I am talking about Biles on vault or floor type thing of course) would never get some of the scores they get if they were from anywhere else. It is reputation, has been part of the sport then and still is now. Or Kim never wins the 91 world AA title in 91 if it is held in any country but the U.S but I am taking a wild guess you never complained about that either.

@@mikeg4576 Yes East Germany had a thrash team this year. They only had Kersten and Tuemmler and Tuemmler was way weaker than the 87 worlds and Kersten was inconsistent and past her prime. Not only the U.S but Bulgaria should have beaten them. Bulgaria actually had a possible case for the bronze this year too.

@@milkybum6339 Bulgarians were robbed too especially on floor.

I doubt they care so much about the apparatuses, but I'm sure they probably wish they'd had the coaching of today. Coaches back then were often very abusive, mentally and emotionally, and they also pushed the girls' bodies too far, sometimes even resulting in paralysis or other permanent injury (Elena Mukhina was the saddest example of this.) Girls were weighed regularly and their meals were controlled, which led to many developing eating disorders. Not only have coaches as a whole gotten less abusive, but they've also learned many many better techniques for teaching the same skills but in a way that doesn't hurt the gymnasts bodies as much. This is why it's becoming fairly commonplace now to see gymnasts competing into their twenties, whereas back then their bodies usually couldn't take it for more than one Olympic cycle or two Olympics at most (Chusovitina was a unicorn.) The girls were usually forced to quit by the time they were 18 or 20. So if they have any regrets about competing then versus now, I'm sure the apparatus is not at the top of their list.

@@AdeleiTeillana Yes because there was no abuse and even rape in US gymnastics like 5 years ago....oh wait!

@@leykimayri You seem to have difficulty understanding the concept of "less". I'll try to explain, but it's really on you to try to learn what it means. One would think if you're able to write that you should already have a grasp on it, but apparently it's something you still struggle with. "Less" does not mean "no" or "none". Less is somewhere in between the former amount and "none," but in no circumstances does it mean "none." If you have 50 bananas and you eat one, you have "less" (or fewer, technically) than you had before, but you still have a lot of bananas. Does that make sense to you? If it doesn't, I'm sure there are some Sesame Street videos out there that explain it more.

@@AdeleiTeillana Yes because it is PROVEN that all coaches back then were abusive while now they are less abusive, huh….because you say so? Like you know very well what’s happening right now in Russia? Shushunova died 5 years ago and all we heard from Russia was that “she died from pneumonia”, because Russians were hiding very well alcoholic problems that Shushunova had had for years and who knows what else and we were all just amazed and so surprised about her sudden death when it was a common secret in Russia that things weren’t going well in her life…but you seem to know very well what is happening in Russian gymnastics nowadays compared to the ‘80s, right? Or you seem to know very well what happens in other countries like China, for instance, and you have proof that today’s coaches are LESS abusive than back then, based on what? On your STUΡΙDITY? Especially considering the fact that in countries like the US there has been such a major ABUSE and RAPE scandal that gymnasts who still perform today have lived and survived through it (ex Biles). So take your stupidity and stick it up in your big αss and stfυ. If such and abuse and such a scandal could have been happening FOR DECADES in the r US where there is freedom of the Press and it’s not any autocratic regime but it’s a democracy where people have rights, imagine what is happening right now in countries where people don’t have the freedoms and liberties and rights that people in western countries have. So next time you make stυρid claims make sure to USE your brain first to think, especially when those “claims” are only based on your stυpidity and on NO FACTS.

Of course it's an American broadcast... are you stupid??

and they very much overate their abilities lol

that we had to watch brandy Johnson on floor do a less that stellar floor routine instead of silvas' bars routine that scored a 10!!!!!

@@laob4901 I clearly stated in my comment that it was an Anerican broadcast...why do you feel the need to be so nasty and disrepectful? Your comment says a lot about you!

@@markb7163 cause ur comment made all of youtube feel stupid. What should they focus on the USSR

very true

Agree. There is no grace now. I don’t blame the gymnasts. I blame the new codes

I prefer today because they are not forced to fit into a specific body image mold, and are instead allowed to be themselves. These poor girls in many cases were horribly abused without the ability of today to STOP IT and get undeserved coaches booted out.

I totally agree!

She sucked as a commentator. It's no wonder NBC never used her again.

And@@mikeg8375, she was rather young at 20 or 21.

Suni Lee won the all around in Tokyo with it.

No names who performed admirably despite their inexperience. They should have walked away with bronze.

Exactly@@mikeg8375. Thanks for NOTHING, Rhonda Faehn!!!

@@pinedelgado4743no, thank the JUDGES who gave the East Germans highly inflated beam scores in particular.

@@pinedelgado4743 and the judges who greatly overscored the East Germans- especially on beam!! Eastern bloc judging at its best.

Idk. I see your point, but you cant deny that the .5 deduction mathmatically cost them bronze. I think the real problem was the way the rule was interpreted, it was pretty obviously a political thing. If it were really about the safety of the athlete, they would have given a warning. It was a cheap shot.

The thing that cost them bronze was POLITICS. The East Germans received grossly inflated scores on beam- something a lot of people have remarked about. It’s a reflection of the eastern bloc fashion of scoring that was popular then.