1990 Euros SP Katia Gordeeva and Sergei Grinkov

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nephertiti77

nephertiti77

15 жыл бұрын

Katia and Sergei only made 2 miskates, Katia two footed the double Axel and then fell during the death spiral. The 3rd error mentioned by Toller Cranston is not an error, but the angle of the camera doesn't let you see the actual step sequence and the small lift.

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@user-rr9ok5gp3i
@user-rr9ok5gp3i 9 ай бұрын
До сих пор эта пара самые нежные, лёгкие, самые синхронные, интересные, оригинальные.
@user-lh6nt2nb6p
@user-lh6nt2nb6p 2 жыл бұрын
Такой синхронности движений нет ни у одной пары в мире. Красота движений завораживает. До сих пор их выступления смотрятся на одном дыхании и не подвластны времени. очень люблю эту пару.
@Alex-Astashov
@Alex-Astashov 11 ай бұрын
Да будет вам... ЗАчем уже так идеализировать то, чего нет... Все это из-за смерти Гринькова.
@user-rr9ok5gp3i
@user-rr9ok5gp3i 9 ай бұрын
​@@Alex-Astashovнет, не из-за смерти. Реально они лучшие до сих пор.
@user-bb2do5pl7h
@user-bb2do5pl7h 6 ай бұрын
​@@Alex-Astashovкак вам не стыдно...
@user-rr9ok5gp3i
@user-rr9ok5gp3i 6 ай бұрын
@@Alex-Astashov назовите, кто сейчас катается лучше них. Кто?
@maryguy9013
@maryguy9013 3 жыл бұрын
Even so, this couple is tops in my book!
@user-ss3wd6ns1w
@user-ss3wd6ns1w 4 жыл бұрын
Любимые фигуристы!
@user-wk8mr3iy4s
@user-wk8mr3iy4s 3 жыл бұрын
Как же синхронно они танцуют,прекрасная пара.
@zilam98
@zilam98 15 жыл бұрын
and that fall in the death spiral was extremely rare for this two!!! that season was really a disaster for them. the fact they still won this and Worlds that season was testament to their unparalled textbook perfection of the elements and sheer magic.
@Alex-Astashov
@Alex-Astashov 11 ай бұрын
это было результатом сговора судей
@oidowgundegmaa7245
@oidowgundegmaa7245 2 жыл бұрын
Legends of The Greatest ❄❄⛸⛸❄❄⛸⛸🌹🌹🥀🥀🌷🌷
@miyumiyu12
@miyumiyu12 9 күн бұрын
Wow this is like my second favorite after 1988 Calgary!!!😊❤❤❤
@myralawson4543
@myralawson4543 6 жыл бұрын
I think they were amazing! ❤️
@whitecat3923
@whitecat3923 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly sync👌🏼 & very amazing!!!👏🏼👏🏼 🤗Thanks for the sharing of this video!! RIP, Sergei!..🥀💕 04.02.67 - 20.11.95
@gracepei2115
@gracepei2115 3 жыл бұрын
Katia looked so cute in that outfit!
@remysimon6819
@remysimon6819 28 күн бұрын
They were in love at this point and both of their bodies are “growing in pains “ Wearing green has nothing to do with their skating.👏love them anyway🙏🌷♥️💕⛸️
@user-jm3kq6nj5x
@user-jm3kq6nj5x 2 жыл бұрын
ЦАРСТВО НЕБЕСНОЕ СЕРЕЖА!
@MsKendra79
@MsKendra79 6 жыл бұрын
This is the time Katia hit puberty and had a major growth spurt.
@robinibershoff8811
@robinibershoff8811 5 жыл бұрын
Kendra, I also recall this being the time Katia's body started changing. I'm 57, but I remember when my body started changing. I felt so awkward and clumsy. When she finally made it past that point, she blossomed into a beautiful young woman.
@AntoniettaMaggiore-hw4ot
@AntoniettaMaggiore-hw4ot 3 ай бұрын
Bellissimi❤
@officeaddict33
@officeaddict33 8 жыл бұрын
The 89-90 season was a very off year for them. They had mistakes at Euros and Worlds. And if you read Katia's book she and Sergei were getting tired of competing by this point and he was having serious shoulder problems around this time too, if I recall correctly. It looked like their heart was not in it anymore.
@taylorcooke3775
@taylorcooke3775 7 жыл бұрын
The coach didn't help the cause either
@megofiachra3247
@megofiachra3247 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to make this comment. This is very mechanical skating. Scott Hamilton relates making a comment about the joy of skating and Sergei saying something along the lines of, “ it’s a job.” I’m glad they were able to find the joy again and keep skating for several more years after getting out from under the Soviet grinding machine.
@Alex-Astashov
@Alex-Astashov 11 ай бұрын
@@megofiachra3247 А у американцев какой станок? Вы тоже ненавидите СССР? Что вам СССР сделал плохого?
@megofiachra3247
@megofiachra3247 11 ай бұрын
@@Alex-Astashov No country is perfect, and there are MANY (uncountable, really) policies and practices in America that I disagree with, and yes, I agree that you could even name some things as a "machine" as well. The USSR doesn't exist anymore, so I cannot hate it in present tense. I also make a distinction between the Soviet regime, which was diabolical and deserved to be resisted, and Russian people themselves. (I do not "hate" people, even though I may disagree with some people's beliefs and/or behaviors.) However, it was brutally oppressive to anyone who dared defy the political leadership. I read Alexandr Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago, along with other accounts from others who dared to speak truth and were persecuted during the Soviet era. They were/are heroes. Countless people fled the Soviet Union and the oppression and injustice they experienced there. Gordeeva and Grinkov are probably my favorite skating pair of all time. I read Katya's biography, where she speaks about the Soviet training system. There is no question that it consistently produced top athletes. As far as skating goes, one thing they did right was incorporate ballet training. No, the USSR never personally affected me, since I lived outside it, and don't have Eastern European ancestry, but that doesn't mean I can't see the problems with the system as it was, for those who lived under its tyranny. Peace to you.
@Alex-Astashov
@Alex-Astashov 11 ай бұрын
@@megofiachra3247 Солженицын - это чмо и подонок! И откуда у вас такие познания о плохом СССР?
@lucindabunda2106
@lucindabunda2106 3 жыл бұрын
I love it.
@remysimon6819
@remysimon6819 2 ай бұрын
Love love love Forever in our hearts 😭😢😥🌷
@Timbergal
@Timbergal Жыл бұрын
They were just falling in love….maybe they were distracted
@remysimon6819
@remysimon6819 3 ай бұрын
Awesome couple🙏♥️🩷💖 Rest in peace Sergei✝️.
@irishrogue9526
@irishrogue9526 10 жыл бұрын
The Commentator could have been less rude, and more tactful. ..
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe he should have just said "wow amazing as always."...you people are just dense.
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын
@@lindamolinari4951 exactly they made mistakes, he called them out. If this was any other pair no one would have a problem with his commentary. It’s just because this is G&G, the pair too perfect for any criticism.
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 2 жыл бұрын
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Toller Cranston was one of the best commentators, and he made all the right comments about this SP from GG. I agree with you that fans are biased because they are Gordeeva and Grinkov. However, they were not always perfect and Grinkov made mistakes often.
@biancahotca3244
@biancahotca3244 Жыл бұрын
@@lindamolinari4951 Really? Like when? I know he did that wrong move the 2nd Olympics.
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 Жыл бұрын
​@@biancahotca3244 Katia made mistakes during the double axel and the throw jumps, Sergei made mistakes during steps and jumps. I have the entire collection of G&G, and even if I haven't watched it in a very long time, I can assure you that Sergei made as many mistakes as Katia.
@italianjen29
@italianjen29 13 жыл бұрын
I love how Toller Cranston says that he'd be too scared to wear green. Hilarious!
@marcia6190
@marcia6190 4 жыл бұрын
He's too wierd! Who cares what he thinks!!
@lucindabunda2106
@lucindabunda2106 3 жыл бұрын
On St. Patrick's Day????
@sqlcomp
@sqlcomp 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the music was suited for them at all.
@MTknitter22
@MTknitter22 2 жыл бұрын
No you are right - but it matches what katia said in her book. This couple had their ups n downs just like everyone else - career and personal. When your heart is not in it, its tuff to fight to win. The commentator could not just gloss over mistakes -
@maryblaufuss7533
@maryblaufuss7533 9 ай бұрын
So green is unlucky, huh? I'll bet Peggy Fleming would disagree.
@Brittney086
@Brittney086 6 ай бұрын
His comments are strange and hilarious like what does the color green has to do with their performance 😂 glad they changed their minds about them after they became world champion.
@stephaniek1076
@stephaniek1076 3 ай бұрын
Yes, her outfit was chartreuse, in order to honor the country of France.
@zilam98
@zilam98 15 жыл бұрын
i dont know about that lift at 2:09. i've seen a practice footage of them doing this lift but somehow their performance of it in this competition looked a little rougher than in the practice vid. i think they got into a little rut in that lift.
@SusanBrooklyn
@SusanBrooklyn 3 жыл бұрын
Who was that commentator? Sounds like Scott Hamiliton a lot but I can't imagine Scott Hamilton would be so rude and obnoxious. Just read that the commentor is Toller Cranston. Whoever he is. But what an ass. Also, this was the time period Katia spoke about in her book about how the coaches were not treating G&G well at all. Exhausting them. Making them spend time apart. G&G were able to fire them and get different coaches. Thank God for that.
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Toller Craston was a very respected commentator and figure skater. His comment here was right on spot.
@SusanBrooklyn
@SusanBrooklyn 3 жыл бұрын
You are one voice against many. If you read the other commentors they agree. Commentator was a jerk. But you are allowed to have your opinions, no matter how wrong they are.
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
It was definetely not a jerk. He did a perfect review of this program. They had two big mistakes plus a not so smooth transaction. Can you please tell me when he was a jerk?
@SusanBrooklyn
@SusanBrooklyn 3 жыл бұрын
@@lindamolinari4951 maybe not a jerk, just seemed negative. To mention how green falls and didn't have anything positive about them. It was like he didn't like them so he couldn't say anything good about them. Even if they had a mistake, there is always something positive you can say about this pair when they skate. And he didn't say one thing positive.
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
@@SusanBrooklyn Well, first you said he was a jerk. Then you insulted me by saying that I was allowed to my own opinion, no matter how wrong I was. Now you are saying that Toller didn't have anything nice to say. He was very nice. Katia and Sergei made 2 major mistakes. He didn't comment on the very first mistake they made like "over the top" Scott Hamilton would have done "oh nooo, a double footed landing on the Axel from Katia. That's nooooo how you want to start your technical program. That will affect both I am afraaaaid" , You are biased and that's it. There was nothing nice to say here. The costumes were awful, the choreo childish, and the mistakes were due to a lack of concentration from both. Exactly what was he supposed to say? He has been commenting on their programs since they first started skating. Years before the Olympics in 1998, Toller Cranston was already proclaiming them the future Olympic Champions. Do you know how many times Toller Cranston has praised them? Do some research. And finally, Toller Cranston also commented on the 1990 Euro Free Skate....yes the Romeo and Juliet program, exactly the one after this mambo jumbo of a program. HE WAS WORRIED that the judges would not be able to appreciate in full the Romeo and Juliet program and hoped GG would not penalized. He also thought that the Romeo and Juliet program was the only winning program, even if there were still many pairs ahead of GG to stake.
@ahimsa_kr
@ahimsa_kr 6 жыл бұрын
i think this program is a little weird.. :(
@ahimsa_kr
@ahimsa_kr 6 жыл бұрын
Nancy Martinelli i cant say exactly.. of course they are always wonderful, but the steps make the program uncomfortable..T.T
@Khumbu0609
@Khumbu0609 5 жыл бұрын
jamboabantu this is the same program, but different outfits. Still seem weird to you? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6ulpNxotrLIgok.html
@pamelahermano9298
@pamelahermano9298 3 жыл бұрын
I think this program is my least favorite of their amateur ones.
@AntoniettaMaggiore-hw4ot
@AntoniettaMaggiore-hw4ot 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@user-iw8ri8rc8c
@user-iw8ri8rc8c 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂👍👍👍👍👍👍
@donnawoodford4127
@donnawoodford4127 3 жыл бұрын
What is it about wearing green that is so bad luck in figure skating? And is it just the fact that they were wearing green that played into the mistakes? From what I can see, there is no logical connection between mistakes and what color they were wearing when they made the mistakes.
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
It was just superstition back then. And no, there is no connections between skating badly like Katia and Sergei did and wearing green.
@biancahotca3244
@biancahotca3244 Жыл бұрын
This program was sloppily done. They seemed to forget the steps, disinterested, Sergei was tired.
@zilam98
@zilam98 15 жыл бұрын
well duh, i've seen their worlds performances. did i imply ALL of their competitions for that lift?
@zilam98
@zilam98 15 жыл бұрын
well you should have just posted your comment and not reply to my post. your reply to my post made it seem like i'm ignorant about the progression of G&G's programs through that season.
@remysimon6819
@remysimon6819 2 ай бұрын
🙏🩷💖🩷
@arc0648
@arc0648 14 жыл бұрын
My god that commentator is so annoying!
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
The commentator was one of the best of all times. Still today I keep looking for his reviews. He even said Katia and Sergei deserved 6.1 for their 1988 OLYMPIC LP. He was nothing but critically honest.
@stephaniek1076
@stephaniek1076 3 ай бұрын
You're right! Toller Cranston. And, if memory serves me, he was the only commentator who remarked that they "had potential" in 1985, when he saw them skate.
@lucindabunda2106
@lucindabunda2106 3 жыл бұрын
Hush up commentator.
@pamelahermano9298
@pamelahermano9298 3 жыл бұрын
Who is the commentator? He’s awful! Lol
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
Why is he awful? He is telling the truth. He is Toller Cranston, one of the greatest in this sport.
@pamelahermano9298
@pamelahermano9298 3 жыл бұрын
Linda Molinari he’s not awful for what he said, he’s awful in that he has no sense of timing or finesse in his commentating. It’s just plain irritating. Looking at the other comments here I’m obviously not the only one who feels this way.
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe you are just biased and can't accept the fact that GG skated poorly and the commentator highlighted that. This program was definetely the weakest program among the other leading pairs.
@pamelahermano9298
@pamelahermano9298 3 жыл бұрын
@@lindamolinari4951 G&G skated terribly. That is not in question. But that commentator is still annoying as hell lol
@biancahotca3244
@biancahotca3244 Жыл бұрын
Not good music or moves or outfits. Zueva seemed to have been out of good ideas.
@user-pm7sw9pw6m
@user-pm7sw9pw6m Жыл бұрын
Allways overmarked! Terrible pair!
@lindamolinari4951
@lindamolinari4951 Жыл бұрын
With this SP they ended 3rd. Definitely not overmarked here.
@SharonNewman-dd6gq
@SharonNewman-dd6gq 9 ай бұрын
terrible?? they won the olympics twice and championships many times!
@maryblaufuss7533
@maryblaufuss7533 9 ай бұрын
YOU try doing a quadruple split twist.
@Brittney086
@Brittney086 6 ай бұрын
Whoa there chill 😂
@user-pm7sw9pw6m
@user-pm7sw9pw6m Жыл бұрын
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