My 205 Diesel had the same trim. Ran it for years and years. Took it for granted. I wonder if it is still going now? I actually traded it for a 2002 Fiat Doblo 1.2 petrol as we needed more room. Guess what... we still have the Doblo, it is a brilliant conveyor of goats and even a sheep muck carrier.

Makes sense, I thought it might have been something like that.

I had that same fan control in my 309 which I thought was a good Idea but haven't seen it since.

The triangular coin holder - if equipped so - is great as it exactly holds an iPhone in vertical position...best “navigation” placement ever!

On low spec LHD you did n't get any centre air vents either.

@@51StPi pretty weak! Still love a 205 though haha

The sister car to the Ax Gt

Actually went and bought a beige 3-door 205 in XL trim a couple of weeks ago. Oh the nostalgia! What I now have seen as well is that the XL-trim doesn't even have the vents in the centre of the dash. It also doesn't have a glovebox, but just a small shelf under the dash.

P.S. The 205 itself WAS indeed available with air condition, ABS and leather seats ... not on the convertible, but it was all there!

Thanks! I think what ever engine they are a laugh

@@furiousdriving A good friend of mine ran an ancient 1.8D one for about 20 years past its best and I did smash it around a few times and it was great fun. Probably quicker to walk, but much more fun :)

You're lucky, especially for the XR

I saw a Roland Garros 205 on blocket the other week at not too expensive.

Ive never seen a 205 with aircon, even the GTis Ive been in didnt have it, it was a crazy expensive option in 1990, by the last year of production it was becoming more normal but it was an option even on luxury cars then

Japanese and Australian model came with A/C as standard, I think having no A/C in Europe are pretty much standard affair

@@Deadguy1988 That's right, but Japanese models were retrofitted with the AC by the importer. There is a generic switch below the driver's vent for the AC. Saw it last week on a 309 GTI in Tokyo. Scandinavian models had very often heated seats, it was standard on higher trim levels like GTI. And all cars had headlight wipers. In Europe the cars were rarely equipped with AC or heated seats. But you can find some in southern France, Spain and Morocco. My 205 doesn't even have center vents ;)

Why would you want air-conditioning on a convertible anyway? As far as I am concerned, why would you want it full stop. Just wind the windows down if you get hot inside your car.

Matty Lamb, when the temperature is near 40 degrees Centigrade, air con is a nice feature.

Honestly I dont dare touch manual roofs apart form MX5s, Ive had bad experiences with borrowed convertibles getting stuck. No fault of the car, just doing something in the wrong order ad being alone in the middle of nowhere with a roof half up...

​@@furiousdriving It's so reassuring to read this! I guess that, due to a similar experience, I'm quite curious about roof operation. Once, my punto had a glitch and we only learn that the hardest way. I was on the highway and it started to rain. The roof simply didn't work. I had to park under a viaduct and wait for the rain to pass. I feel your pain! Keep up the good work!

yes, I remember people swapping auto chokes for manuals when the early ones didnt work properly! I like the SUV acronym

how did the MOT go?

@@furiousdriving it's this Monday so time to give it a blast

its about £3000 for a ride in that I think

Im 5'11 and had good headroom as its quite a tall car, but I couldnt say you'd have enough or not - a lot depends if you're height is on your legs or torso

Did you buy one? And if so how did it went? I'm exactly the same lengt as you and looking for a 205 convertible this week.

He does have a knack of finding the gems

@@furiousdriving, you are a blessed man to be driving such a fine collection of showroom fresh classics, sir...

You nailed it there - if I can find one! Id do a 25 like a shot if I found one, I dont think I can be too picky about the trim level!

@@furiousdriving I took the grey leather interior out of one at a scrap yard a good 16 years ago, not knowing how rare there were, the rest of the car was in pretty good shape too.

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Fact it is so light makes nakes it so good!

If I can find one!

yes, I can see the similarity..

Ill see what I can do. It happened in a couple of videos

Isn't that a Renault Megane with the weird arse?

Yes that's it. Renault megane.

The Peugoet 205 I owned was extremely reliable It wasn;t that new even when I owned it either

That certainly was!

And from Paul Bracq too

@@furiousdriving He can't be all that clever! Glad he never got to design any Aussie cars!

if the turn indicator arrows are to be together, they should be positioned on the driver's console directly in line with the steering wheel column. Other wise, to separate them, place each turn arrow either side of another console item(like fuel gauge) or place them out to extreme left and right sides of the console for design balance.

In the left section are the side/dip/main beam indicators. You can only see them when they are illuminated just like the fuel light. Like Neil Forbes said it's one light for both ways. My car has the same lay-out, it has never bothered me.

French never had it the british/Japanese way!

@@furiousdriving I've had about 5 cars in my time(from 2002 til now).I've only had the where-with-all to run a car since 2001 and got my licence at age 47 in 2002. In that time I drove a 1985 Ford Meteor(also badged as Mazda 323), a 1990 Daihatsu Applause, a 1989 Toyota Camry station wagon(also badged as Holden Apollo), a 1996 Ford EF Falcon Futura sedan and now a 2003 Ford BA Falcon Futura station wagon. All bar the meteor had Power Steering and ALL had their stem controls the correct way round, wipers on left, lights/indicators on right.

@@neilforbes416 new JDM, Korean and Japanese-branded car destined for RHD Asian market still have stalk the correct way round, European car in the same market have it wrong way round sadly

@@Banom7a I drove a Toyota Camry(1989 vintage) station wagon for a few years. The same model was also marketed here in Australia as the Holden Apollo. This, like each car I've owned, had wipers on the left of steering column, turn indicator & light switch on right of column, the CORRECT way round. This also was the case in a Daihatsu Applause(1990) and the three Fords(1985 Meteor, also marketed as Mazda 323), 1996 EF Falcon "Futura" sedan and 2003 BA Falcon "Futura" station wagon. All my cars were Automatic with floor-mounted gears. Even going back to cars with column-mounted gears, the gear lever would be on the left of column for RHD cars, auto or manual, and the turn indicator(without the other functions) on the right of column, back in the day when light switches and wiper controls were still dashboard-mounted switches. I do remember a big 1964 Rambler, owned by a friend's father, automatic with column shift, built for Australia's right-hand-drive standards but with gears and indicator set for the American system, arse-about! Gears on right, turn indicators on left! They forgot they were building for a RHD market.

true, you just see it less these days. I always like car with the old smokers pack as its got the 12v socket and ashtray for sweet wrappers!

Still plenty of smokers around. I intensely distrust thestats circulated saying the vast minority of pople nowadays don;t smoke. I think there are an awful lot of liars around....

A very pretty car

@@mattylamb9194 Indeed, I am significantly proud to say that I own one.

No, not that Im aware

Volvos are going to happen..but I want a manual!

Driers seat is a bit high but OK apart from that, who knows why people dont use their cars, but good fo rust they dont! And Hang ON! Copy Cat?!? Hardly!

Id like to, just need to locate a good one

As I researched, filmed, did the audio, presented and edited the whole thing alone its as good as it can get for now

As I said in the video, best thing to do is not crash!

Not really, they were still being fitted in cars in to the 2000s, 1990 in a base-model supermini a CD player would have been the stuff of science fiction.

@@musmodtos The Euro car makers would've gone for CD in their mid-range models. In Australia, a basic Ford Falcon Futura of late-1990s vintage had cassette and radio but an equivalent vintage Fairlane would have a radio/CD player in place of the radio/cassette. A late 1990s Holden Commodore may have a radio/cassette stereo but a Holden Statesman DeVille would have the CD/radio. The Statesman DeVille was Holden's prestige model!

The Junior was the base model but with denim seats. Hardly any cars had standard CD players in 1990.

@@MajorKlanga agree. Maybe a few executives and Japanese exotica but Ford would still fit a radio-cassette in to cooking models well in the naughties as one example, same as most other volume makers and their lower ranking offerings. I'm quite confident in Europe at least, a CD player in a supermini built in 1989 would have been quite remarkable. Can't comment on the Aussie market (that's John Cadogen's gig) but here in the _Old Dart_ it didn't happen.

in 1990 CD players were still a way off for mere mortals, and when they were fitted it tended to be either a separate player in the dash instead of the graphic equaliser or a 6 disk hanger in the boot. The earliest car I ad with a CD was a Freelander from 2002, which was the cassette player in the dash and CD changer under the seat. This was a Clarion in the 205

You have to have the windows up if you want anyone to hear any audio in the video - otherwise all you get is FFFWWWWAAAOOOGGGGHHHOOOOOOOAAAARRRRRR from the wind!

@@furiousdriving fair play, I did consider that, so point taken. Cheers for making these videos mate, I hope you notice my point was a bit tongue in cheek. Got a 'classic (ha) ' Saab 9-3 Convertible that all works and has been substantially remapped if you fancy a trip to Suffolk :P