Yes. That's why it has a crap sterio.

@@seivaDsugnA The stock stereo blows. I have had an Elise for almost 20 years. That was one of the first things I changed out. That, and upgraded to the Sport Exhaust. Great little car. The Toyota engine really transforms the car into something that is bullet proof reliable, but still a hell of a lot of fun. For years the first Gen NSXs were around 30-40k...then boom...they doubled in price and continue to rise. Great car. I wish I had bought one when they were reasonable.

Dream higher.

Was my dream car but I am living the dream now

Me too, and i Hope come to reality soon 🤞

@@ytsux9259 Is there higher for a pure driver's car? Lotus Seven maybe? Lotus Elan? What else?

It was my dream car that i could afford and keep running. Had my 111R för 14 years or so now. For me it was the most stupid car i could se myself actually own. And i got one, imported from GB. I haven´t driven it for 3 years i think but it´s there in the garage and i just like looking at it when i´m off for work. Maby i will pull it out this year. (Get one, they make you happy).

You can really feel a difference at braking and cornering. The car also feels faster. But the 2-11 is a true trackday car. WIth the exige or elise you can make road trips.

Thanks for the feedback. Planning to continue with the 3 camera set up for all in depth driving reviews but will switch to POV for normal press cars.

@@Zygrene i suspect if u keep ur health good you wont get lazier when old. ive seen some farmers who are even somewhat shredded at 70 and still living young.... think of living more like how humans are more accustom to living through generations of genetic natual selection. using steroids etc which have you maximize your hormone profile for anabolism has holistic effects on the body... things grow which you may not necessarily want to grow, like your internal organs for instance. This effect is fairly minor if you're within normal reference ranges for testosterone, but if you go exogenous, into SARMs, synthetic anabolics, HGH, exogenous IGF1, exogenous thyroid... all the stuff top tier athletes and bodybuilders do... you're going to experience undesirable sideffects and it's going to cost serious money to test for them, monitor them, and treat them as you age. basically if you want to build your body, start with your diet and sleep. Any routine that involves lifting weight in the 5-15 rep range, 3-6 sets, 3-5 times per week will work for years if your diet macros are good, your inflammatory foods are kept low.low inflamatory food (itll also give less of a nonclear, painfully stressed mind) like natrual fats, especially animal stuff,. lower sugars inslcuidng carbohydrates.like if using fiber for hard poop constipation. plants pass on genetics that survive human consumption,so they run away liek animals and dotn need to maintain such complex machinery that animals are, so the genetics to make them toxic to human at various levels, survives and passes on genes more. most plants are not beneficial and are often even harmful. sugars like carbohydrates, fructose etc arnt absorbed well which is why meat has more energy , lasts longer . human shoulder rottates more, made for killing unlike onkeys,, and teeth dont move side to side like monkeys, hose, cow, and oterh plant eaters, our teeth made for grinding harder to break down stuff like meat. pesticides wasnt banned becuz plants are considered more harmful than pesticides. make sleep is regular and uninterrupted... ie get 8 hours of sleep and go to sleep so that you naturally wake up about when the sun comes up. blueish and/or brighter light wakes person up for a while similar to sunlight, like from electronics, room lights, etc . some people use red light on dark background in low light setting when around tmes of sunlight darkening do more work out in the morning, like pbodily excersize, that's when testosterone is highest, for specifically acne, eating less dairy will help for some people. wash off most the natural oily stuff on skin

@@kalmmonke5037 wf are u talking about. Where did this comment come from? How is it relevant to anything here?

@@KuostA because he was sayin that he might not tolerate the noise vibraiton harshness of lotus elise when he gets old and fall int bad health, where people are able to tolerate less in general, which makes life less good.

This made me lol but I have an Exige and the shifter is garbage. Otherwise it’s better than the NSX unless you are taking it on road trips (which is kind of weird)

100% agree. I have an Elise and it is unbelievable even today. Never driven an NSX. Did get a chance to drive a 991.1 Carrera S and surprisingly it didn’t come close to how fun the Elise is. It was actually a letdown in comparison on the fun department but to be fair it was a lot more refined. Never thought I would call a 911 boring. Maybe need to try a GT variant some day soon

@@johnwight6041my friend who owned a elise 111r for 6 years told me that, "the car ruined other car" for him as no other sports car he drove ever come close to the experience in the Elise, he daily drive that car as well

The gearshift in the Elise should be good. It's a long throw but if it feels bad there is something wrong.

We need to make this happen! Only 8 years in the making haha. Could you shoot me a quick email? zygrene@gmail.com

Met a few people in a group of Lotus owners who had K20a swaps, even one with a supercharged K20 Exige ;) Impressive beast. And much faster than my NA2 NSX (which has a stock engine) but I still love it :)

Correct my Exige 06 had drive by wire. But it's still feels really good and natural.

None of the US spec cars had a cable throttle. They also all had the airbag steering wheel which wasn't as good imo.

@tlyFakeName No, 2005 has a throttle cable. I've even adjusted mine to change the neutral throttle position.

@@justaddafan there must only be a few early ones then. The electronic system is considered better on these, it's a very responsive one. People actually retrofit them to the cable throttles.

@@BlatentlyFakeName No, all US federal 2005s have a cable throttle. As to "better" that's debatable.

Yeah cuz the 2zz change over happens at higher rpm but the k20 sounds just as good with ITB, my dream Elise would be Supercharged 2zz

K crossover is not as aggressive as the B or the 2ZZ. The latter two have the best crossovers in my opinion

I have an Elise w lsd as factory option. I never feel it except in 1st gear tight corner, probably because of light weight, short wheelbase and grippy tires

elise's low torque will never expose the short coming of the open diff, but rather with proper throttle control, the open diff along with the proper chassis and tire grip can help you during mid corner/corner exits.

I'm in my mid 50s and love driving my Elise. Guess I'm an even farther outlier. 😂

@@darrendonovan6679 I missed the elise train unfortunately they are like 50k now or more but I got my 85 Ae86 and love it.

I'am 57 and last year i bought my first Lotus 😂 A Elise S2 with oem supercharger. I also own a Honda S2000 for 14 years now. Buy a Lotus if you like them and can afford, life is passing fast so you better enjoy it and don't think about what other people will think of you. Life your dream.

Agreed, that is a much more likely comparison. These two cars are both awesome and get fun but I would literally never cross shop them. The Evora on the other hand I absolutely would. I really enjoyed driving the Evora and I think I'd probably go that way......but it depends on the day I'm asked haha.

The Elise feels faster than my 981 cayman s, a lot more visceral

Elise feels like a full second quicker to 60 mph

@@Zygrene thanks

I think he has tested the Evora GT or 400 before, try to look it up.

Once @jubbalandcars takes delivery of his V6 manual, we'll make it happen

i think he swapped it

@@mfdoom4358 interesting

he did one already...there was a 350z also in the video..he preferred the Lotus

I've owned couple of s2ks and couple of elise. Elise is more fun to drive and has superior steering, road feel, and overall dynamics. The s2k has a better shifter, engine and is more practical but that's about it.

@@superjervis yeah but he’s owned countless s2000’s and never planned on owning a lotus, there’s got to be reasons for that

​@@victoryang9115 because the Elise is a lot more hardcore. Like I said, s2k is more practical and makes sense for more people. You get an Elise if driving pleasure is all that matters.

@@victoryang9115 he addresses this many times...too much of a compromise for him,i would personally own an elise over an s2000

Yup and the Lotus chasis is glued aluminum, not very durable or repairable and sketchy electronics throughout the years

@@BrainFuck10 the glue is stronger than any weld, rivet or bolt and the aluminium is what keeps it lightweight

The newest NSX I've driven was a 99 coupe. Very curious about the 02+

@@Zygrene is there a aftermarket for reprogramming electric steering to reduce power steering? would be nice to feel grip limit for preserving momentum, which lowers use of fuel, fluids, brakes, battery etc, even with electric drive regenerative braking, roughly same tire wear as braking and accelerating again. if im not mistaken, japan gets trd prius which is tightened chassis, anti roll bar, multilink rear suspension (i think multilink became a standard in all prius at soem point) , . ive heard simialr for new prius. i wonder why not just have a small combustion thats smaller lighter higher and optimal combustions per second ,because it only has to charge electric drive and battery size optimal for longveity for lower noise levels and lowering emissions for human health reasons (which wont be much) or legal bs reasons. possibly plugin hybrid. maybe they dont do it because battery recycling isnt happening and dendrite battery degradation makes it low longevity and expensive to buy and replace, although i think they recently stoped being so anti ev recently because i guess the decided peopel dont care, they still want ev. heavy weight is bad for having easier communciative steering, but also less safe to others ina crash (see aptera owners club video on saftey) and causes mroe road wear which costs raw resources(sustainability) .

Have you ever driven an M235I? Totally dead wheel, complete disappointment.

@@BrianWEnglish every modern bmw is like that. I’m not sure what is up with bmw. Every manufacturer has figured out electric power steering except them. The weird thing is bmw used to set the standard for steering feel

I think there is a huge difference between the unassisted and assisted NSX racks. The assisted cars were also very early EPAS I think which is why people complain about the feel.

I own a 2002 S2000 since 2010 and i still ❤ it so much after driving it 100000KM. In 2011 or 2012 at my Honda dealer was a NSX for sales for 25000euros. I couldn't afford to buy it without trading in the S2000 so i didn't buy the NSX. When i see the prices now..... Since last year i also own a Lotus Elise S2 R Y2006. In 2009 it got the oem supercharger kit of the Elise SC. So it has about 220HP now. Didn't drive the Lotus much yet because of the winter weather with salt on the roads but it feels very special and it is great on b roads. To choose is difficult, depends how you use it. Daily or only for fun miles. The S2000 is easier to get in and out and is wider inside. AC in S2000 is better. The Lotus you don't have to rev high to be fast, because it has the supercharger. My S2000 has KW V3 coilovers, the Lotus has the oem Bilsteins and both are comfortable enough for me.

😂

Same delimma, ideal to have both

Musk launched an S1 into space. What an idiot.