Dennis Hatch, age 20 vs Buddy Hall, age 46 in a VERY exciting 9-ball race-to-9 that goes hill-hill at the 1991 US Open. Excellent Mike Sigel commentary. A 42-minute video from my VHS videotape made from the telecast 24 years ago.
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@BladeRunner-td8be5 жыл бұрын
Mike Sigel is such a great commentator. Just the way he explains what is going on before and after each shot is top notch announcing.
@theburningelement.64474 жыл бұрын
I agree Mike is one of the best in the world as hes won 108 professional tournaments
@mejeremyb4 жыл бұрын
I can't stand watching Mike play because of all his talking, but I do have to agree he's a great commentator.
@planetx1595 Жыл бұрын
Better to hear him in the commentary box than at the table
@billmoore8532 Жыл бұрын
@@theburningelement.6447 +
@fondofpeace20 күн бұрын
Dude I was going to say the same thing! Can’t stand to watch him play, but he’s an excellent analyst.
@choward874 Жыл бұрын
I played buddy in 91 he was such a great soft spoken guy. He taught me alot in a short time.
@supersam19144 жыл бұрын
Buddy’s the only player I’ve seen that makes nine ball look beautiful like an artist painting , his precision is elegant and he will always be my favorite player
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
You've got plenty of company in that opinion, Eli. People have been admiring "The Rifleman's" beautiful nine-ball game for many decades (everyone except the thousands of challengers he unfailingly sent home broke).
@richardcerritelli96573 жыл бұрын
@@raycarltonbilliards5798 Is it really true what people say about buddy in the back room he is a different animal when gambling is at stake no one was ever better even efren wasn't as good.
@raycarltonbilliards57983 жыл бұрын
Richard: Buddy rarely ever lost in wagering matches. Other *pros* in that special category would include Luther Lassiter; Don Willis; Boston Shorty; Cisero Murphy; Nick Varner; Efren himself; Dennis Orcollo, etc. Joe Balsis was occasionally defeated in tournament matches, but never in gambling ones. Harold Worst (actual name) *never lost* any *gambling* or tournament match he ever played during his active career (which prematurely and sadly ended at age 37 due to an illness). Willie Mosconi didn't like to gamble, but when he was goaded into it, he never lost. Only a fool would wager against him.
@garygwinn42568 жыл бұрын
What a great match. Dennis has a great tournament, only losing 1 match by 1 rack. Buddy at age 46, TIMELESS MASTERY
@tuomokemppainen4848 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading these older matches. Very enjoyable.
@VeritasForYou8 жыл бұрын
+Kempf Kempfson it is like watching a peace of movie, by the way Hatch looks like Tom Cruise from Color of Money:)
@VIProfessor6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for uploading this!! Buddy was the man, and it's a shame that there aren't more youtube videos in which young players can see and learn from his genius!
@jackchesnut19567 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload. Good stuff.
@raycarltonbilliards57986 жыл бұрын
@PoolManis8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great upload.. Not too much Buddy Hall matches at tube :)
@applez326 жыл бұрын
a damn shame.
@DTHAEW Жыл бұрын
thank you for this video, amazing age of pool
@raycarltonbilliards5798 Жыл бұрын
_I'm glad you enjoyed it, Elmedhi. Thanks for the positive feedback. You can quickly see plenty of other videos that I have of this age_ *
@staggs50342 ай бұрын
Buddy, had beautiful game. Tempo is just right. His cue ball. When most guys play 9 ball it looks like a game. When Buddy played it looked like an art form.
@raycarltonbilliards57982 ай бұрын
This is such an *_accurate, balanced and perfectly phrased, almost poetic comment_* Thanks for posting. What a great salute to a worthy, world-class champion. I'll be sure that Buddy gets to read it.
@jacobjones52693 жыл бұрын
They all feared Buddy.. He was ruthless.. He could play a little hole, too... Don’t sleep on his one pocket game.. There’s a match between Buddy and JJ from the legends of one pocket 1997.. I had been on the road with JJ, on and off, for about 5 years, and literally beat everyone playing one pocket during that stretch, and Buddy waited him out like a fricken vulture and beat JJ 5-4.. Best one pocket tournament match I’ve ever seen..
@ruskyhrahsel77233 жыл бұрын
Are you JJ's brother? He is an awesome player and the most knowledgeable commentator. Big fan from India
@CMarshallD Жыл бұрын
Mike is a really good commentator….
@fredsavage4925 Жыл бұрын
Buddy's playing and commentating were both top-tier. This was a great match.
@raycarltonbilliards5798 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with both observations, Freddie. Glad you enjoyed it. *
@Igregorio8 жыл бұрын
Nice game! Buddy Hall is a true sportsman, as well as Dennis Hatch !
@joshuahaynes74136 жыл бұрын
I agree. Buddy hall was a monster in the 80s and early 90s.. they say buddy hall robbed efren gambling years ago .... everyone always says efren is the best ever which he is def one of the top 5 alltime but buddy hall and earl the pearl was just as good if not tougher .
@patsyelias87322 жыл бұрын
What a sweet stroke Buddy has..
@raycarltonbilliards57982 жыл бұрын
And not least, he's got that smooth, listen-all-day Southern-inflected baritone voice (much like Grady's) whenever they commentate.
@roberthendrix91106 жыл бұрын
I really wish ESPN would go back to television billiard events, not just the MOSCONI CUP...
@dingdong76105 жыл бұрын
Strickland said ESPN won't touch pool anymore. Poker killed it on tv in America too, as a filler sport. But there's always Matchroom covering big events on the internet
@jesusislord75264 жыл бұрын
Buddy has a silky smooth stroke.
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
And not least, he's got that smooth, listen-all-day Southern-inflected baritone voice (much like Grady's) whenever they commentate.
@usgamechamp1091 Жыл бұрын
I just recently found out who Buddy Hall was. He may play 9 ball prettier than anyone I have ever watched
@raycarltonbilliards5798 Жыл бұрын
Champ: Many thousands of his lifelong fans have felt exactly that way over the decades. You greatly enjoy reading this perfect article about Buddy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Hall
@jacobjones52694 ай бұрын
I think he’s the greatest 9-ball player ever.. I personally saw Efren duck him twice.. Stakehorse was ready, Efren said no..
@dingdong76105 жыл бұрын
That shot on the 2 was a truly incredible shot by Buddy
@raycarltonbilliards57985 жыл бұрын
Very on-target observation. Thanks for the comment.
@leog9844 Жыл бұрын
He got lucky to pocket the ball…
@thangs4 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed was young Hatch wearing the loudest shirt imaginable. My next thought was, "Of course he did." No disrespect. I really like Hatch most of the time.
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
Mike Sigel had (and exemplified) his own witty version of Teddy Roosevelt's famous presidential policy. Sigel's guiding principle was stated as *"Speak softly, but wear a loud shirt"* . . . which he routinely did for many of his -- generally victorious -- finals matches.
@rogerscottcathey4 жыл бұрын
Sigel is a great commentator. In fact they're both a good match up for commentation.
@billysnider98694 ай бұрын
Always a smooth operator
@jacobjones52694 ай бұрын
My favorite Buddy Hall story, and I was standing right there and saw it all, was when Bustamante made it to the States for the first time to play in Willard’s Big Jamboree in Chicago, in 1992.. Bustamante gives CJ the 8 ball and just robs him out of 2 sets.. So, Billy Incardona offers to put Buddy in the box to play Bustamante, and the Pinoys politely decline.. Incardona is a little miffed because the guy didn’t miss a ball, right?.. So, Efren is standing right there, and Incardona tells them he’ll stake Buddy to play Efren, bet what you want.. And the Pinoys again politely decline.. lol.. I was shocked.. Johnny Archer, standing right next to me?… Was shocked.. lol..
@raycarltonbilliards57984 ай бұрын
Jake: I know you love the game as much as I do, so here's a reading treat for you: forums.azbilliards.com/threads/if-you-could-go-back-in-time-and-watch-just-one-player.290825/
@stephenperry5021 Жыл бұрын
That’s a tough pill to swallow for Dennis, to make it hill hill only to give Buddy a good rack to run out..
@theburningelement.64474 жыл бұрын
Buddy has such an amazing game
@Fatboypool4 жыл бұрын
Buddy never shot a hard shot in his career. Respect!💪💪 Fatboy Approved
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
A widely-known comment, Eric, that clearly lauds his superb position play. For any pool fans who might misinterpret its intended meaning, I'll add that Buddy's 1995 bio book by W.W. Woody conveys that *Buddy has in fact, shot thousands of near-impossible, hard shots that "took down the cheese"* every time during his road days. Invariably he was faced with them when lesser-skilled local challengers missed badly, leaving Buddy seemingly trapped. Buddy's guiding principle was: *"When the safety is harder than the shot -- go for the shot."* Most pros do likewise. And that's when we see courageous and spectacular results from Buddy, Earl, Efren, Kim, Thorsten, Corey, Jason, Darren, Oliver, and countless new worldwide champions.
@Fatboypool4 жыл бұрын
ray carlton billiards I usually don’t mention this, but I spoke to Johnny Archer today about this set, and Buddy running the set on him prior to this match. Johnny says Buddy might be the all time best and could come with the hard shots too! We talked for a long time about this tourney. I’m sending this to JA. Also Johnny missed a 9 and left Buddy a super hard shot he told me. Buddy made it(perfectly) and ran out the session. Hope you have been well. Best regards
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
I hear frequently from dozens of the "beyond-middle-aged" top-level pros whom I've known very well for decades. Amusingly, they very commonly say *"Wow -- was I really ever that young and playing so beautifully".* They, and their now-adult children (and grandchildren) regularly enjoy viewing videos of their bygone tournament performances. I love hearing from them and reminiscing about our mutually beloved sport.
@raycarltonbilliards57983 жыл бұрын
Pleasant to read anecdotes like yours, Terry. Buddy essentially did you a lasting favor by playing you -- for whatever instructional value the matches provided. He's a wonderful credit to the world of our beloved sport.
@thomaspackard22094 жыл бұрын
Mike Seigal is a great commentator.
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
Sigel's pool knowledge is profound and smoothly delivered in layman's terms. His excellent, predictive and instantaneous tele-strating skills greatly enhance anyone's understanding of every nuance of a given situation. Buddy, the Miz, and Rempe were also notable in these respects and in those decades.
@creeypiensa4 жыл бұрын
I was literally being born while these players played their match. Lol
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
Cree: You were among the estimated 247,000 babies being born *every day* during 1991. The world's population was roughly 5.4 billion then. It's estimated to be 7.7 billion now. In all countries where pool, billiards or snooker tables are abundant, about 10% of their populations average at least a few occasions of play during the year.
@alexcollins16304 ай бұрын
Buddy Hall is a great shot,you could shoot with any cue and shoot lights out. Remember he went from Bludworth cue to a Meucci. Big difference in feel and hit.
@raycarltonbilliards57984 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more, Alex. I've known the man for 40 years. Love his positional mastery and his listen-all-day Southern-inflected mellow baritone commentating voice. Much like Grady's was.
@alexcollins16304 ай бұрын
@@raycarltonbilliards5798 idk if it's rare,I have the PBT trading card set. It's awesome
@briancurbo1440 Жыл бұрын
Nice call with the "Little House on the Prairie" reference.
@tuckt61802 жыл бұрын
Siegel gr8 commentating
@wccl Жыл бұрын
Buddy Hall beat Jonny Archer after being down 7-1 if I recall correctly to get to the championship match. He ran 8 in a row to win against Archer which is incredible but I can't find any video of the match anywhere. I saw it on VHS years ago and been wanting to watch it again so if anyone knows where to get it please let me know.
@stevewilliams27322 жыл бұрын
Look at the young hatchet man
@ruskyhrahsel77233 жыл бұрын
10:10 wrong call from Sigel. Right shot from Buddy
@0Caracalla5 жыл бұрын
Buddy is a beast
@abskalex614 жыл бұрын
“Not too much could go wrong here.... whoops”
@ericmaldonado13734 жыл бұрын
Go Buddy ... Dennis was great as well 👍
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
Indeed, Eric -- Dennis was, and still is, an immensely talented pro player.
@jacobjones52693 жыл бұрын
Dennis had control of whitey at all times.. He didn’t play his best, here, but I’ve seen him in the grease a few times, and it was impressive.. Buddy is the greatest 9-ball player who ever lived, IMO..
@choward8746 жыл бұрын
I wish I could see buddy hall in his prime play today.
@raycarltonbilliards57986 жыл бұрын
That's precisely why I uploaded the video, Craig. ;-)
@Abard34807 ай бұрын
I did, right around this tournament year. Best stroke I've ever seen in pool. Phenomenal player!
@tgh2233 жыл бұрын
i got a bludworth cue buddy signed for me mint cond ive had it forever we was playing at boo boos in metropolis one day he could not believe the shape it was in he told the the story about the time he went to leonard bludworth house and told him he was not leaving untill he made him a cue and leonard did known buddy a long time i think the world of him
@tedschulze35035 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried the laser stroke training aid?
@raycarltonbilliards57985 жыл бұрын
Ted: Go to Google and enter in the search box "laser stroke training aid". On the first results page that comes up you will see that AZBilliards (dot com) has 4 forum threads containing 33 posts/reviews by experienced players discussing it in depth.
@gordonfarina938 Жыл бұрын
Buddy Hall the best Tempo Player off the World
@TheStikapos4 жыл бұрын
I was there! Me and Mama were so young then! Ugh! Now, going on 32 years married!! Now, if we could only get Man U to win!!!
@Xris1871310 ай бұрын
Thank god dennis is done ✅… this guy peaked before he was good
@DodgeMan74 Жыл бұрын
10:37 brilliant
@MarinaCalendar24 күн бұрын
hand chalk talcom powder making the table all dirty smh .. and makes balls slide, so glad it cant be used in todays game
@bluedoggum837327 күн бұрын
Why do we insist on playing a game the winner is decided if a ball happens to dribble in on the break or not?
@lawrencemaweu2 жыл бұрын
Dennis Hatch was so adolescent
@raycarltonbilliards57982 жыл бұрын
As we all were many moons ago.
@polish-hammer83654 жыл бұрын
Do you have any more footage from this tournament in 1991. Had a friend playing and would like to see the tape if he was on video.
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
Tell me who he was, Josh, so I can check whether his match/matches were among the recorded ones.
@raycarltonbilliards57983 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't, World Class9. A major storm ko-ed TV in my region the night it was nationally telecast. Johnny himself asked me recently. He'd love to re-watch, because Buddy's victory over him was due to an impossible, spectacular, rail-to-rail shot that escaped Johnny's lock-up, table-length safety. *Johnny is a major lifelong fan/friend of Buddy.* After 30 years Johnny's still totally (and appropriately) awestruck about that shot. Wish I had seen it. Let me know if you hear about any source of the match.
@polish-hammer83653 жыл бұрын
ray carlton billiards I’m not sure if it was this tournament now. His name is rocky kono.
@raycarltonbilliards57983 жыл бұрын
Short answer, Josh, is that no one of that name was videotaped playing in this particular tournament. Thanks for the question which was indeed a very understandable one. My suggestion would be to enter the name "Rocky Kono" in your KZfaq search box. That will uncover any existing matches in which he was recorded, if they still exist or were ever uploaded to YT.
@Kentucky_Blue6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe the camera man gets right in front of the pocket
@raycarltonbilliards57986 жыл бұрын
It's almost certainly the reason for many pros atypical misses on certain shots. By 1995 after a dozen years of being televised, pros were fairly accustomed to cameras directly on the shot line, but they did occasionally get "camera-bit" as you'd expect. Absent today's computer-linked & remotely controllable setups, *up close & personal* was often unavoidable, but fans viewing the original telecasts did love the immediacy and excitement of these classic tournaments -- just as we all do today when enjoying and learning from them.
@rogerscottcathey4 жыл бұрын
at 18:47 did Hatch tap the cue ball? Is that a foul?
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
Would be a foul if he had done what you mistakenly perceived -- but his moving shaft was more than foot away from the CB. Optical illusion due to the camera's line of sight.
@rogerscottcathey4 жыл бұрын
@@raycarltonbilliards5798: Thanks, I wanted to ask: the 2003 WPA World 9 Ball Championship rules: They had the players rotating in the 5 game format, then the longer format was winner break. Why was that?
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
That's been extensively discussed in the leading pool forums years ago, mostly wild speculative guesses. Get the official explanation by submitting your question directly to the folks who had set the relevant rules: wpapool.com/contact/ You'll get a *thorough* reply within a few days.
@billysikes13742 жыл бұрын
He didn't touch it
@BladeRunner-td8be4 жыл бұрын
17:29 Dennis feathers a ball in the corner pocket and the ball never starts rolling. It skids all the way to the pocket. For the life of me I don't understand how this happened hitting it that slowly.
@raycarltonbilliards57984 жыл бұрын
Simple billiards physics -- the softer the hit, the longer the *CB-OB contact duration* during which "cling" can perform its odious magic. Buddy would have known that and made compensation; Dennis -- still quite young -- not yet so instinctively.
@jacobjones52693 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen the shot, yet, but I can pretty much guarantee you he stroked it poorly.. Probably used center or inside.. Sometimes it’s chalk or dirt at the contact point, but usually it’s poor execution, somewhere..
@sirosis78582 жыл бұрын
Actually it rolled the entire time. Spot was on the side, and if you look close you can see it rotating. You're distracted by the glare reflecting off the top of the ball, which is not the spot.
@leoschubich3424 Жыл бұрын
Watch the original shot not the replay. You can clearly see it rolling.
@stevehiggerson73289 ай бұрын
It seems like you understand that it is impossible for that to happen, so I don’t understand why you believed your eyes? It couldn’t have slid more than an inch or two at that speed. And on that particular shot I don’t believe it slid at all
@lajohnson1ly6 жыл бұрын
Where does Buddy Hall live today? What is he doing?
@kathykeegan65045 жыл бұрын
Kentucky, gaining weight. Comes out and plays in some tourneys not too far from home.
@mejeremyb4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how he could gain any more. The last time I saw him in Cape Girardeau MO he was so big he could barely walk. That was around 12 years ago.