Holy Bull (24 de Enero, 1991 - 7 de Junio, 2017) * Padre: Great Above * Abuelo paterno: Minnesota Mac * Madre: Sharon Brown * Abuelo materno: Al Hattab * Sexo: Semental * Criador: Pelican Stable * Propietarios: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD) * Entrenador: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD) * Jinetes: Luis Rivera Jr. (De 1-1) Mike Smith (De 15-12) * 16 Salidas * 13 Primeros * 0 Segundos * 0 Terceros * $ 2,481,760 producidos ($ 4,433,703 actuales) * Campeón Tresañero de Estados Unidos 1994 * Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1994 * Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2001 * Número 64 en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX" de la revista "The Bloodhorse" * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Siempre te recordaremos! * Saludos desde Venezuela

When you are the greatest of all time, thats what you do

I was marveling too at how good the field was. Remember it like was yesterday.

Wasn't as good as 1988 or 1998 BC classic fields, but it was good.

He could have handled 10f without an issue. Remember in the Travers he was hooked by a rabbit for most of the race and was WELL clear of all but Concern and with that hot pace a closer was bound to run it close. Give him a ride like this race, no way it's close at 10f.

I was good friends with jimmy croll. He swore for years someone gave Bull a sedative day before ky derby. Was listless for 3 days after derby, but by wednesday was back to his old self...

@@marklewen9384 Holy Bull (January 24, 1991 - June 7, 2017) * Sire: Great Above * Grandsire: Minnesota Mac * Dam: Sharon Brown * Damsire: Al Hattab * Sex: Stallion * Breeder: Pelican Stable * Owners: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (R.I.P.) * Trainer: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (R.I.P.) * Jockeys : Luis Rivera Jr. (1 for 1) Mike Smith (12 for 15) * 16 Starts * 13 Wins * 0 Seconds * 0 Thirds * $ 2,481,760 earned (Current $ 4,433,703) * 1994 U.S. Champion 3-Year-Old Colt * 1994 U.S. Horse of the Year * Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 2001 * Number 64 in "The Bloodhorse Magazine Top U.S. Racehorses of the 20th Century List" * Rest In Peace, Champion! We´ll always remember you! * Best regards from Venezuela

Cigar was stronger, just not known. Cigar literally ran Holy Bull into the ground.

@@raygordonteacheschess5501 When they met in the Donn, Cigar was 5, did not race at 2, won 2 of 9 races at three, maiden and allowance, raced six times at 4, 5 allowance, 1 win, first graded stakes win after 15 races, with Bill Mott as trainer, and Jerry Bailey on his back. Cigar's record was 5 wins in 16 races with one graded stakes win. Holy Bull was 4, a grade 1 winner at 2. The Bull did not finish two races at Gulfstream, the Fountain of Youth, when his palate flipped, and the Donn, when he broke down. The Derby was the only race he lost that he finished. There seems to be fairly common knowledge that there was some hanky panky with this Derby. Jimmy Croll told them what they could do with their Triple Crown. He claimed he had the best horse in training, and proved it with Eclipse Awards for Best 3YO, and Horse of the year. The Bull sired a Kentucky Derby winner. Seems that Cigar had E D. Holy Bull was one of kind, with folklore as big as Stronach’s statue rising above Gulfstream Park. Holy Bull memorabilia is still available on eBay. Who knows, maybe there's a Bill Mott Chess game "How to steal a horse race."

@@augur6256 I should have said three but he did earn a high figure on dirt before going on the turf. At three it's still impressive because horses grow from 3-4. Point is his dirt form had already been established.

@@raygordonteacheschess5501 Point is: Cigar couldn't hold a candle to Holy Bull Point is: Cigar did not run Holy Bull into the ground. You're a sick pup. Point is: Cigar did not run at 2. At 3 he faced softer on kinder turf - 2 for 9 Point is: Holy Bull won the prestigious G1 Futurity, was undefeated at 2 Point is: In 1994 - Holy Bull was not only 3YO champ, but Horse of the Year. Point is: In 1993 - Cigar won 2 of 9 races as a 3YO. Point is: In 1994 - 4YO Cigar went to Mott, won 2 of 6 - 1st G1 under Bailey 11/26 Point is: You are trashing one of the most charismatic horses of our times on a video of one of his greatest races. Against all odds, Jimmy Croll made the blueblood's heads explode, much the same way Jason Servis is doing with Maximum Security this year. Interesting how Bill Mott is involved in both Cigar and stealing the Derby.

I think people who take a disagreement so personally to the point of insulting someone so rudely (from behind a monitor of course) shouldn't be attempting to diagnose anyone online. Cigar won sixteen races in a row, the first of which included Holy Bull in the entries. That speaks for itself to most of the racing world. Cigar "won two of nine races" and two of six at four on the TURF, before he was moved back to the DIRT. Anyway I don't argue for more than two postings so have fun with your foul mouth.

The Bull broke down chasing Cigar his 4 yr old campaign.

Holy Bull (24 de Enero, 1991 - 7 de Junio, 2017) * Padre: Great Above * Abuelo paterno: Minnesota Mac * Madre: Sharon Brown * Abuelo materno: Al Hattab * Sexo: Semental * Criador: Pelican Stable * Propietarios: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD) * Entrenador: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD) * Jinetes: Luis Rivera Jr. (De 1-1) Mike Smith (De 15-12) * 16 Salidas * 13 Primeros * 0 Segundos * 0 Terceros * $ 2,481,760 producidos ($ 4,433,703 actuales) * Campeón Tresañero de Estados Unidos 1994 * Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1994 * Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2001 * Número 64 en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX" de la revista "The Bloodhorse" * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Siempre te recordaremos! * Saludos desde Venezuela

You got that right- Durkin is the 🐐

To be fair Durkin tailed off a ton in his latter years and Colmus was a huge improvement at the time

@@DanielSong39 huge improvement? Hes atrocious....i love it when near the finish line of a big race he stammers looking for something eloquent to say, and something comes out of this mouth that would make a 4th grader cringe.

@@marklewen9384 Colmus is an above average race caller. Yes Durkin was better in his prime but towards the end he just did not belong behind a mike

@@DanielSong39 Collmus belongs working at white castle....

I FEEL BAD YOU HAVE MISSED THE SUBLIMITY OF THE GREAT HOLY BULL.

@@billross6013: I agree, they absolutely don't make them like him anymore.

Holy Bull was run into the ground by Cigar, so Cigar was better. He was just stuck on the turf. Cigar had run a 95 at two without Lasix.

@@raygordonteacheschess5501 Cigar was not better than Holy Bull. And No Cigar did not run Holy Bull into the ground nice try. Cigar needed Lasix to keep going, Holy Bull never did. The numbers Holy Bull put up, far exceeds anything Cigar ever did. Had Holy Bull not torn his tendon in the race, there would not have been a 16 race win streak for Cigar. But what a year that would have been with those two matching up race after race.

@@raygordonteacheschess5501 when I finally got to ask Mike Smith about the race against Cigar he told me he could go by him whenever he wanted to...this horse was on another level

The Bull was 1994 Horse of the Year at three. He won 13 of 16 races, 2 he did not finish, 6 Grade 1, 2 Grade 2, 2 ungraded stakes, an allowance, and a Maiden. Cigar did not race at two, won 2 races out of 9 as a 3yo. When he was a 4yo, Bill Mott became the trainer. Cigar won 1 of 5 allowance races and his first stakes and Grade 1 race after 15 starts. Both of Cigar's wins came after Holy Bull won the Woodward and had wrapped up Horse of the Year honors. Cigar started his win streak with these two wins at the end of 1994 when Mott put Jerry Bailey on his back, took Cigar off the turf and put him on dirt. I was at Gulfstream for both horse's first two races of the 1995 campaign. I have bet on horses that were not the horse I was betting on on several occasions. The first time I saw Cigar in 1995, he was on the slender side. When I saw him before the Donn, I didn't think he was the same horse. Like, he became Arnold in three weeks. I know horses start to fully mature at five, but in three weeks? It didn't matter, Holy Bull broke down, supposedly. He did not want to go into the horse ambulance. Cigar went on to his fourth consecutive win, the rest should be easy with the Bull now retired. You see, Alan Paulson had been very good to the American Government and to the horse racing industry, and he had the Cigar. If you ever been to a track, you know what I mean. But, he was dying from cancer. The consensus from the ones that knew, claimed Mott managed the easiest win streak in history. Cigar won several allowance and non graded stakes races. He faced very few legitimate Grade 1 winners, and the ones he did, were on their way out. When he started running against Grade 1 winners, he lost, and was retired. Paulson passed a few years later. Holy Bull's competition was much stiffer. Cigar doesn't hold a candle to him. Holy Bull sired a Kentucky Derby winner. Seems that Cigar had E D. Holy Bull was one of kind, with folklore as big as Stronach’s statue rising above Gulfstream Park. Holy Bull memorabilia is still available on eBay.

Cigar was not an elite horse until very late in '94. Holy Bull beat the best that year and was a no doubt-about-it Horse of the Year.

@@DanielSong39 Cigar was always elite on dirt, but was hiding on the grass so yes Holy Bull bad the better year.

He never ran in the Classic. His trainer already knew he didn't like Churchill so there was no need to go there. Besides by this point, he had tackled all he needed to and had beaten older horses twice. Nothing more to prove. I'd like to see any modern 3yo these days, tackle this kind of schedule.

@@goforwand31 There is a reason why they don't, the trainers know what they can and can't do

@@goforwand31 I was friends with jimmy croll. Bull was not BREEDERS CUP nominated. Its why he went to calder as a 2yo and not BC juvenile.

No back then there was a huge entry fee if not BC nominated which he wasn't and the BC was at Churchill where he flopped in the mud so Croll was waiting for the next year at Belmont but unfortunately he broke down against Cigar in the Donn handicap in 1995 and retired to stud. Now a days he would have won a win-and-your-in race and automatically would have made the classic with fees waived!

Against Cigar?

steven cooke yes I'm pretty sure (trusting Wikipedia)

The Bull is still the property of Darley at 25.

He just passed on a couple of days ago. 26 years young.

But he could never run as fast as this guy.

@@goforwand31 ......and this guy could never run as fast as Ghostzapper.

@@danc3831 Horses are magnificent creatures, welding such power through such fragile legs and hoofs. Few make it to the racetrack. Some rise to heights of folklore. With a few exceptions, they are pack animals. They have good and bad days, just like us. They get injured just like us. They are also subject to horrendous drug abuses from unscrupulous, greedy human connections. They become objects of human greed, emotion, and folklore Ghostzapper was brilliant and was well deserving of his Eclipse honors in 2004. Holy Bull was brilliant and was well deserving of his Eclipse honors in 1994. Cigar was brilliant and was well deserving of his Eclipse honors in 1995-96. The immortal Dr. Fager and Secretariat still hold North American track records from the 60s and 70s. On any given day, a horse can become mortal, be subjected to human interference, and human greed and politics. Native Dancer was a television star more popular than Milton Berle. His only loss was in the Kentucky Derby to a horse named Dark Star. Inside connections made a fortune. Frank Stonach bred and raced Ghostzapper. Stonach owns Gulfstream and Santa Anita.

@@danc3831 I don't consider Ghostzapper great. Sure he was fast, but highly unsound. I'm still a bit peeved he's in the Hall of Fame when he couldn't even run more than 4 times a year and only won once at 10f with 4 GI wins that it took him 3 years to accumulate. Holy Bull ran in more races in one year back to back than Ghostzapper ever could. Brilliant yes for Ghostzapper, but great, no.

The Bull got the last laugh in the breeding shed and Cigar shot blanks - Cigar had 13 pounds and Lasix when the Bull got hurt people forget that I was there and they were neck and neck when he got hurt around the backstretch

Palace malice

And that's when they didn't hide their 3yos from facing older horses either.

Wish I could of seen "Holy Bull" Race with a very young talented kid, Mike Smith .. The Amzaing Zenyatta, SongBird ... Big $ Mike has ridden the best of the best rt into HISTORY Books. Many a Legendary Horse has tasted the massive attention of triumph in winners circle still Wilded Eyed & Breathing deep thanks to Mike skillful talents ... .. who can forget Mike Smith's ride on "Derossilmyer" coming out of nowhere with no camera on Mike ... but cameras at finish wire ... punters thinking fractions of second to race over. Race now detremined. Than Mikie comes flying splattered in mud to steal race while renaming all other runners into "Nice Try & also rans ". I NEVER take MS for granted ...The guys a Legend in equine racing ... yes, i'm newer bettor ... still ... Even legends get older ... Memories NEVER AGE only get added too, while sometimes they grow briter ... Thanks

Geez man Shane, you are either a troll or you know nothing about north american thoroughbred racing.. lol and Holy Bull usually was not touched by the whip in most of his winning races. geez the travers is coming up please review those youtube videos again. By the way, I am not in the camp which says Cigar beat garbage horses. Cigar is great and there is no second discussion about that too. he showed his absolute top class multiple times - at Dubai, New York etc in top notch Gr1 company.

Shane diamond There is a difference between the two. Cigar needed Lasix to run and Holy Bull ran and won without it his entire career.

+Shane diamond This race was at 9f....what are you? a moron?

By the way, he never lost a 9f race. He won the Florida Derby, Blue Grass, Haskell and Woodward ALL at 9f.

BECAUSE CIGAR was a fully grown 5 year old, 3 year old are not suppose to beat older horses.