Yeah, passed away during the filming of this video too

No he's just a bitter excuse maker.

bare in mind that everyone is biased and everyone sees the situation from their perspective. Shawn Ray is biased to his own physique, he sees small, aesthetic bodybuilders as the pinnacle of bodybuilding. He sees his body type as dominant or superior to mass monsters, I mean he said it as much. The reality is different, aesthetics have never been more important than size and conditioning which are the 2 pillars of the sport. Take it back to the 60s and you'll see the trend that I'm talking about. From Oliva to Arnold to Haney, SIZE, STATURE, that's what kept winning and that didn't change after them either. Mr. Olympia, or any other bodybuilding show, is not a beach body competition. What the public thinks or fantasizes about is irrelevant, because the sport of bodybuilding has rules and a set judging criteria by which shows are judged. Shawn Ray was 210 pounds, frail, narrow and still not more conditioned than Yates or Coleman. According to what logic did he ever deserve to beat someone 50 pounds bigger and more conditioned than himself? You're gonna tell me Shawn Ray ever won the front lat spread against Yates? side tricep? back double? back lat spread? Please. If you think that then you are a legit casual that shouldn't be talking about bodybuilding. Shawn Ray has no business in winning any of the aforementioned poses, Yates was too big, too conditioned, too thick, too dense , too wide for Ray to ever do anything

@@dj_m1999 your opinion about ray is about as useless as his rants.

@@themindmuscleconnection2851 good one. That applies to yourself

Lol you said physic

Agreed Jerome! The 90’s were definitely a different era of bodybuilding that I don’t think can ever be replicated.

Exactly. Today its not interesting anymore

You are 100 percent right

Yeah same with life all for money and no ideology retarded no nothing know no excitement only nihilistic bores or raving junkies

All these guys today literally look the same… I mean the 90’s their physique were so unique

Just a genetic marvel..everything looked different..structure ..joints...and then the muscle bellies..calves and hams from another planet. He never did squats due to knee injuries.. arms compactness at 6ft 2 .

Real life baki character

Yes but his back wasn't that good.., especially his lats.., his left side lat looked so underdeveloped as compared to his right side and he also lacked legs development but must say his shoulders and mid section were phenomenol

@@JayTVIndia I agree was more of a posing issue but still needless to say like i said no one looks like that such a unique look irrelevant to places etc

@@winstrolchurchill821 offcourse 👍

03 coleman was an abomination redundant size bb peaked 93-99 after that downhill

@@TheLusianPopa i agree. It's just that I lived through Ronnie's reign and was a big fan. That said, I prefer 1998 Ronnie to all other incarnations.

Shawn would of been a great classic competitor he was just to small to compete against Dorian, Although he did well getting the placings he got, maybe if Dorian had not of come along when he did Shawn would of been Mr O at leased once

Same goes for Frank Zane!! Size used to matter back then along with symmetry

I never understood how Dorian won any Olympia, except 93. Otherwise, he never looked good to me, especially after he tore his biceps. How can a Mr Olympia have a torn biceps? His wholfe physique was a mess in 97. Shawn definitely won in 94 in my book. I got so sick of Dorian winning every year no matter what, I was so happy when he finally retired. I met him and talked to him at the 99 Arnold Classic. Introverted, but a nice guy. Sometimes Shawn talked a bit too much, but he was often correct. And he certainly was not the only guy who complained about placings during that era.

This and his whole back was pretty weak compared to the rest

He was gifted but lazy. No thickness. I doubt he ever did deadlifts or bbell row.

Heard Lee Priest mention it was because he had terrible asthma.

I was at the '98 Mr O in Madison Square when Paul cramped up and had to be dragged off. Because his posing was so bad no one could tell he was having problems

Yeah his conditioning for posing was always jerky movements..cost him alot of times, yet still a mass monster

I will eventually have them all up. If you are seeing them somewhere else please let me know so I can have them removed. Email me at bruce@mocvideo

@@MocvideoProductions Ohhhh man that would put you in Demi-God status for sure. I know DailyMotion has a few of them but I have not looked for awhile. There are a few of them on youtube but they had a takedown notice and the audio was taken off of them. Thank you so much for uploading all these great videos!!

You’re welcome 🙏🏻

Thank you! 🙏🏻

1996 and 1997 Dorian didn't even deserve third place , horrible physique , no arms , with a huge belly

@@GabrielOlympic Yates didn't have a belly in '96 and he controlled it pretty great in '97. You're just being a hater for nothing. As for Nasser he got disqualified in 1996 because he was an invertebrate just like you are and used banned substances so he couldn't have won at all.

Dorian tore his biceps in 94. His career should have ended then. Any other competitor with such an injury would have finished dead last. Dorian always said that if he could not come in at his best, he would not compete. That was a lie.

Freaky paul! Awesome! What a monster....

You’re welcome!

He was actually in Bevs, if you check the timestamps he's near the end.

Magenta to purple is pretty lame😂

they were good friends, Yates stayed at his house whenever he was in the US and trained at his gym (Bev's gym). I don't see what's so wrong about this? as if Arnold and others weren't great friends with judges, promoters et cetera. Also, Steve wasn't head judge back then

Always!

Yh but cmon.. Dallas was for lack of better words an ïdîõt. With all due respect. His autopsy showed enlarged uh.. Everything! He had been mixing a deadly dose of tren and a bunch of other stuff! He had collapsed beforehand. He shoulda stopped. Same thing with Ronnie. The man worked out til the bolts came off. Look at Jay Cutler or other athletes. I am all for whatever it takes too. Im not a pùss. But within reason!

size and conditioning have always been the 2 pillars of the sport, 70-60-50 years ago, the 90s or today. Obviously their importance has increased, but let's not act like Sergio, Arnold, Haney etc weren't winning primarily because of their size advantage over their competition. Also, size and conditioning are not subjective, which is one of the reasons why they are so important. You're either bigger and more conditioned than the next guy, or you're not. Shawn would like the judges to appreciate lines, aestheetics, posing etc MORE, but all of those things are subjective to each and every judge's preference hence mixed outcomes.

@@dj_m1999 Mixed outcomes wins over pushing people to kill themselves, in my book. Al though i do understand your points, objective judging criterias are a backbone. Maybe this sport shouldn't exist at all. Atleast it seems the athletes are informed that what they are doing is extremely unhealthy.

The original scripted reality show actor,

Who did you meet?

@@cuttertsi3715 Mike ohearn, kali muscle, dexter Jackson, Jeremy buendia. Arnold was there a couple times but I couldn't get a picture. Rvd from wwe was also there once but no picture. I met Bradley Beal from the wizards there as well.

@@ObiWanSatoshi kali muscle XD

Thank you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Gracias Mexico! 🇲🇽

Well said. 🙏🏻

Charles Glass overrated, no results with the light weight

Wtf is trap

No such thing as training too heavy

poor mind muscle connection. I don't blame him, it's extremely hard to develop it in the back, you can see it in his posing, the man just couldn't contract his back muscles properly. Contrast that to anyone who's regarded as having a great back, they can contract each of their back muscles with ease and on command.

with poor mind muscle connection you're basically just swinging the weight from point A to point B hoping a tiny bit of it translates into bigger muscle tissue.

Who?

@@JerkVegas86 He

No Shawn Ray was the greatest physique relaxed, or Lee Labrada.