Imagine seeing a stock pristine Supra, RX-7, 3000 GT VR-4, and 300ZX all in one place today.
@bernag18323 жыл бұрын
In the Philippines I've seen what you said
@spookerr2 жыл бұрын
Got one in my attached garage. Triple black 91 2 seat 5 spd manual trans.
@1rstGear2 жыл бұрын
Which one? The Z32 or the 300GT? Because in 1991 the Supra was still an MA70 MK3 and the RX-7 was Still an FC…. Lol
@anonuser58522 жыл бұрын
I helped set up a JDM display last year that included a pristine FD, Mk IV Supra Turbo and R33 GT-R. I found a pristine 3000GT VR-4 at a car show but couldn’t find its owner. All the Z32s around here are clapped out or heavily modified, I think they were just a hair too popular for their own good and got seized upon by the 2 Fast 2 Furious crowd.
@lucky889s92 жыл бұрын
And the NSX
@gxdjoeybaby079 жыл бұрын
can I call this the golden age of Japanese sports cars?
@TheBimmerfan8 жыл бұрын
+Joey Baby Simply the golden age of all automotive industry. Miss the times when such masterpieces were created.
@VaughnJogVlog8 жыл бұрын
+Joey Baby permission granted.
@apollo46577 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@keomo7 жыл бұрын
I actually consider it just a few years later (1999-2002). Toyota Supra and Mazda RX-7 were still in production in Japan. As well as the Honda S2000, NSX... Lancer Evo, Subaru WRX STi, R34, etc. .... ahhh the good years!
@damieg827 жыл бұрын
Plantinum age instead perhaps? (at least from a global perspective). The 80's would have been the golden age since offerings like the VR4 shown here, Honda NSX, and Nissan R33 GTR were not yet available.
@motormusique8 жыл бұрын
Rx-7 is simply one of the most beautifully styled cars of all time
@GlassTopRX77 жыл бұрын
Yep and with 99' spec parts will draw a lot of attention.
@jokernepalm6 жыл бұрын
You're wrong. 96 honda civic carries that title.
@edvinnelius82136 жыл бұрын
Sheikh Basit lol
@Scottstunts6 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@BTCAsia6 жыл бұрын
If Mazda were to build more FD RX-7s today - with zero changes, except for price - they’d sell more in 1 year than they sold in all of North America from ‘93-‘95.
@ravesilly9 жыл бұрын
Wow, Matt Farah wasn't kidding when he said the Supra was practically priced out of existence. $49,000 in 95/96 is about $76-77,000 today
@3.2Carrera8 жыл бұрын
+ravesilly I agree. I was in my 20's when these came out and the Supra was just a dream as for the possibility of ownership. A Corvette was around $38K at the time, even through it was long in the tooth it was still a prestige nameplate. It was a different league, but the Mustangs were the best buy then by far. I had new 90 GT ($13K) and a low mile SN95 Cobra ($14K) and I could easily afford those in high school and college.
@VaughnJogVlog8 жыл бұрын
+Vince L I was a bit younger, but another thing to consider is how few cars were priced over $40k in the mid-90s. You just about couldn't get an American car that expensive. A maxed out Corvette in '96 is close, and then the top Caddy and Lincoln. To compare these car prices to simple 2016 dollars doesn't tell the whole story. To bring up another point, in the 1983 film Risky Business, a 928 was the most expensive car for sell that year in the USA. Though they used one a little older in the film, think of it as Tom Cruise borrowing his dad's Veyron if there were a remake today.
@nakian53168 жыл бұрын
You can get them for around 30k now.
@tomhertz16147 жыл бұрын
+Vince L Mitsubishi 3000Gt VR4 in 1996 was 70k The spyder
@TheHuskyGT7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but only the disgusting riced, and overly modified ones. A stock, manual Supra RZ with low miles will cost you almost $90, 000. At least the price keeps them from being desecrated by tuners.
@cbr600rrturbo7 жыл бұрын
imagine having all 4 of them in your garage
@GottaGoFastr6 жыл бұрын
Keisuke Takahashi the 3000gt is the cheapest currently.
@coltonhurley25255 жыл бұрын
3000gts are dirt cheap for the moment
@maybelive7655 жыл бұрын
They're missing the R34 GTR, Honda NSX, Toyota MR2 SW20... I think thats about it...
@maybelive7655 жыл бұрын
OHHHH THE SUBIE SVX!!!!
@jeremysiegel29615 жыл бұрын
I do. But I also play a lot of Gran Turismo haha
@LoveMyZJ9 жыл бұрын
Man, that RX-7 still looks stunning.
@basshead.4 жыл бұрын
The Corvette C5 looks almost the same.
@DK-jd5tb4 жыл бұрын
basshead no it doesnt
@basshead.4 жыл бұрын
@@DK-jd5tb They look pretty similar.
@tonymorfin87503 жыл бұрын
So's the rotary bill. ... Rotary engine was for airplanes.. and it didn't last much up there either... . .
@keithmcfarland38195 жыл бұрын
The year is 2019 and the 26 year-old RX-7 design is still absolutely beautiful.
@rodmunch692 жыл бұрын
Literally the ugliest car of the group. But I guess you probably also drive a Miata, and to that limp wrist audience, I guess a small fem look is what you're going for.
@pastorjoesackett22 күн бұрын
Its 2024... it still is.😅
@ChunkyChipz8 жыл бұрын
Damn, couldn't afford it back then, couldn't afford it now. XD
@SpaseGoast6 жыл бұрын
You can get a VR4 for under 10k now, you can find a 300zx for probably under 7k. The RX7 and Supra though, have skyrocketed in price.
@letsroll24636 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt dare get that 300zx, hard to work with a cramped engine bay and parts are scarce as the vr4
@kgthegreatone9435 жыл бұрын
Word i feel ya
@othatdude305 жыл бұрын
Tell me about. I saw a supra with 70000 miles for $60000. That's crazy
@bencrosbie5 жыл бұрын
Same 😭😭😭
@justaninja15 жыл бұрын
I drove the RX-7 when it came out and fell in love with it instantly. The handling was incredible and the design is timeless.
@DNAManufacturing9 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately your predictions were right. The Japanese market has been sorely lacking since these 90s cars went out of production. Nostalgia aside, the 300ZX and RX-7 have got to be the most timeless designs to come out of Japan next to the NSX.
@VictorPitstop9 жыл бұрын
They were right... Just not good business. If only safety standards weren't so strict, the value of lightweight and moderate power could be good for business if you keep the cost of materials and production down. Unfortunately, that just doesn't happen anymore here in the states. The only remaining enthusiast car for 'bargain pricing' is the new MX-5 coming soon and Mazda achieved the safety standards somehow. Maybe the other JDM automakers will follow and start making fun and affordable performance without sacrificing reliability. This video truly does resonate with me and confirms my JDM biased even though I love all brands in a sense.
@longtailgt9 жыл бұрын
DNAManufacturing I don't think the NSX looks very good. Looks a bit dull. The 300ZX, RX7 and Supra on the other hand, they're beautiful even today!
@jgizzy9 жыл бұрын
***** The NSX is the most exotic looking of the lot. Pictures don't show it though, the shape and size must be seen in person to realize how sexy it is.
@longtailgt9 жыл бұрын
Jgizzy -redacted- Could be. The only one out of these I've seen in person is the 300ZX. Its such a sexy looking car! I agree with you though. I'll have to see the NSX is person to really cast an opinion. I just can't get away from the fact that it is in some ways a Ferrari wannabe.
@MrTenshinhan1008 жыл бұрын
I have seen all 5 of them in person, up close. Actually, a red surpa turbo parked next my little mr2 2 weeks ago at a wegmans. Of all 5, granted I am a toyota guy, NSX wins, hands down. From afar, it looks a bit dull, but up close, you will appreciate the design, shape, and flow of the entire car.
@tom11zz8849 жыл бұрын
The 3000GT was very similar to the Nissan GTR of today..Big, powerful, turbo charged and a sophisticated AWD system that kept everything in place.
@Autowill8 жыл бұрын
+tom11zz884 I'd say the R33 GT-R's are more similar to the GT-R of today. Since it was, ya know, a GT-R. That goes for R32's and R34's as well.
@ksfpubstar25 жыл бұрын
3000gt is and was way more unreliable than a gtr
@CutACrow5 жыл бұрын
@@ksfpubstar2 What makes you think that? As an owner of a VR4 I guarantee you they're not unreliable.
@ksfpubstar25 жыл бұрын
@@CutACrow my co worker has a gtr and they are known to be a reliable performance/sports car probably a reason why they still make them. The vr4 may be reliable for you but I think the gtr is more reliable
@Dacommenta5 жыл бұрын
They were unreliable by owner forums standard and also weighed a lot more. None the less, wicked car and would buy one any day I could afford one. Any car that even gets compared to the GTR is obviously a jdm legend.
@williamgrand97249 жыл бұрын
Little did they know these cars would still be huge players in 2015.
@WeAreN1nja9 жыл бұрын
William Grand Truth. And, aesthetically, they've aged like fine wine for the most part...
@integritysolution13869 жыл бұрын
WeAreN1nja Agreed. Though I always preferred the dodge stealth over the Mitsubishi (yes I know they are the same car, I'm talking aesthetics)
@animal9009 жыл бұрын
William Grand Yes, these exact cars are. But they haven't exactly evolved and stuck around in new models...
@tom11zz8849 жыл бұрын
William Grand Except, sadly that Mitsu is almost dead in America, and the Lancer Evolution is being discontinued by year's end.
@daver539 жыл бұрын
+tom11zz884 This car should have put Mitsu on the map. They kinda play the role of Infiniti these days. Great performance bargains.
@DoubleDeckerAnton6 жыл бұрын
All 4 cars look great today over 20 years later....they have those classic lines that new cars don't have as they are aggressive and alien/ugly looking!
@BurtSampson9 жыл бұрын
I wish I could drive a brand spanking new RX7.
@Autowill8 жыл бұрын
+Burt Sampson They are hard to find these days. If you do find one, they are pretty pricey.
@TheSupradvr7 жыл бұрын
Burt Sampson I own one and it's everything you think it is and more
@GlassTopRX77 жыл бұрын
You probably wouldn't like it. They are twitchy and spooky by modern day standards. Not say they don't handle well even by today's standards in stock form they just don't inspire confidence and very unforgiving at the limits.
@TheSupradvr7 жыл бұрын
GlassTopRX7 absolutely true ..but thats the point a car that if not respected can and will kill you
@potatochobit6 жыл бұрын
no you dont they are very hot modded is better
@tokyotopp8 жыл бұрын
1990'S Jdm please come back! :(
@keithrx3c7 жыл бұрын
The really ironic thing is that you'd need an early 80's car to travel back in time to the 90's. :P
@boboutelama57485 жыл бұрын
Every period has it's good and bad. The 90's are over, and it's great sportscar from japanese brands are too. But even today, Japan has some very good cars for the sport enthousiast. The new Toyota Supra, the Subaru BRZ, The Subaru WRX Sti, The Nissan GTR, the Nissan 380z, the Lexus RCF, The Toyota GT86, the Suzuki Swift, the Daihatsu Copen, the Honda NSX and the Civic... they are all to sell now. In a world where SUV's are taking over the market, the japanese have some of the last mass market sportscars.
@joebutta75395 жыл бұрын
If theyd do the "modern vintage styling" like mustang, challenger, and camero the sales would sky rocket.
@christop9975 жыл бұрын
The new supras a BMW. Not struck on subaru reliability either. Loads of recalls
@boboutelama57485 жыл бұрын
@@christop997 This information was already debunked and is false. Let's analyse. The chassis was developed between the two brands. But they parted ways before the project was totally finished. Meaning, each plattform will at least have 60% of original crafting on it. Then engine was first designed by BMW, then fine tuned and reliability improved in toyota factory Japan. So it's a 60/40 for BMW. The externals, a sensible points on BMW engine failures, are all Toyota on the Supra (water pump, cooling, and so on). The gearbox is bought by a reputable manufacturer, you have the same into a lot of performance vehicles nowaday. It's not a BMW gearbox at all. So you are actually complaining that the Supra isn't a Toyota because they use bolts, nuts and lugs that aren't all from Toyota. Do you understand how wrong it is ? And look at Subaru. Their flat fours are not really known for keen realiability, but when used in a Toyota drivetrain, they made instantly a very reliable engine. It's not coincidence, it's Toyota's way of doing things. It will be the same with the Supra.
@kingdingaling7815 жыл бұрын
3000 GT VR4 was my go to in Gran Turismo. Hitting corners full throttle and not spinning out with that AWD.
@daveb2242 жыл бұрын
Oh, I loved that Z. My father was good friends with a guy who owned a Nissan dealership and he gave me (at 18 years old) the keys to one for the day. R.I.P. Jim. Thanks for that day.
@kylemas20055 жыл бұрын
3000 GT styling was very Blade Runner. love it
@trent70804 жыл бұрын
Love Mitsubishi
@2cool4fluoride3 жыл бұрын
It is my favorite looking out of the group
@lemonstrangler2 жыл бұрын
@@2cool4fluoride same here, that ass looks sexy and the front looks looks determined
@WoWMinGM6 жыл бұрын
I think the RX-7 FD is the best looking car ever built. But I'd still take the 300ZX because of reliability, luxury and practicality.
@tommywest6849 жыл бұрын
These cars still look great today and I'm glad to see many people feel the same. might just be me but I've always thought the last RX7 to be one of the most beautiful sports cars ever made, I'd do some weird shit for one of those! LOL!
@MrTenshinhan1008 жыл бұрын
All 4 are beautiful...
@mro94668 жыл бұрын
+Tommy West The RX7 is the cleanest design, fluid and timeless !
@mro94668 жыл бұрын
+Tommy West The RX7 is the cleanest design, fluid and timeless !
@tommywest6848 жыл бұрын
+Roubert Marvin Sort of surprises me that more people aren't nuts over the RX7
@mro94668 жыл бұрын
+Tommy West It's an interesting car for many good reasons, but in the end, it might be to complicated to own, explaining why most of the time we have more BMW or Nissan fans
@vettevr4thez5162 жыл бұрын
What's hilarious is in 1994 MotorWeek got 0-60 in 4.9 and 1/4m of 13.5@103mph. The second gen 1994-1999 VR-4s are faster stock to stock than all the cars in this test besides the Supra which only passes well after highly illegal speeds. I have a bone stock 1999 VR-4, I run consistent 13.2-13.4@102-104mph. I have a bone stock 1990 300ZX Twin turbo, it runs 13 8-14.0s@100-103mph. MotorTrend did a test in 1995 called Virtual Velocity where they tested all 4 cars and the C4 Vette. Look it up online. I remember these two cars results because I own both: *Nissan 300ZX TT* 13.9@102.0mph *Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4* 13.5@101.7mph People didn't know how to launch the Mitsu.
@SportsMusicCars2 жыл бұрын
post a video or two of those cars we wanna see them
@joshmelone39836 жыл бұрын
All I want in life is a 1993 300zx tt manual in red...🔥🤤😭
@sunilayya89485 жыл бұрын
Only the z made it to car and driver's top ten list 6 yrs in a row. Its styling has aged best too. Still a stunner.
@73kenright4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I'd still choose it over the 350Z & 370Z body styles.
@rodmunch692 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Z is a pretty awesome car - along with the 3000GT. The other two are just femmy looking.
@purejoyfulone9 жыл бұрын
I would love to have the RX-7, so beautiful both inside & outside, especially in bright yellow!
@deadseriousforsure9 жыл бұрын
They all still look stunning.
@jdonns22219 жыл бұрын
Nissan z still looks great today
@ethanmcauley799 жыл бұрын
Same as supra. Remember those days, back in 90s when we dreamed about these cars, we didn't know shit about mclarens, aventadors and stuff, miss them so much
@SPEEDTRIBESAKURA9 жыл бұрын
They all do! I miss that kind of design. Now it's all heavy leather and luxury everywhere...Also Ethan, we did know a little about McLaren after the F1 came out. :-)
@tom11zz8849 жыл бұрын
Joseph Rogers Timeless design by Nissan.
@massivefins25976 жыл бұрын
most 80's looking of the bunch...
@spidey01236 жыл бұрын
I know right? Also remembered the first time I’ve learned Lambo diablo uses its eyes (headlights). 😄 Saw a clean pearl white in Tokyo a month ago, that Fairlady is simply stunning!
@sunilayya89484 жыл бұрын
The z32 300zx tt was so beautiful back then. It makes the supra look like a shapeless, characterless blob. Also, Supra's interior looks industrial compared to the gorgeous curvecous interior of the z. No wonder the z was featured in car and driver's top 10 list seven yrs in a row from 90 to 96.
@NeoS2819 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite retro review yet (aside from the Saleen vid). Very impressed with the Mazda RX-7. Being under 3000lbs, it was able to spank the Supra and 3000GT in the quarter mile with less power and torque. I loved all of these but I would take the RX-7 home.
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials9 жыл бұрын
Neos281 Represent the rotary!
@openplz30009 жыл бұрын
I got to flog a 93 rx7. Car was tight and quick, and felt like it was on rails. Much better than the Buick GN I was driving at the time, which only did straight lines
@jeremy37475 жыл бұрын
And less engine size. 1.3 liters, less than half the size of the others
@Spiritcr1jsher4 жыл бұрын
@Sergio Aguirre first person on planet earth that understands how displacement works on rotary engines.... Kudos!
@xxGHPlayaxx5 жыл бұрын
The Supra and 3000GT VR4 will, without a doubt, be two of the coolest looking cars ever in my book.
@askip93045 жыл бұрын
I love the supra but think the 3000 gt is ugly af but that's me
@walkgleeshwalk46353 жыл бұрын
I love the Supra, but damn a 3000gt looks hella sexy it was a head of it’s time
@BrendanMacWade9 жыл бұрын
Those prices were high 20 years ago. In 1994 dollars, those were new Porsche Cayman sticker prices. Amazing.
@BrodeyDoverosx9 жыл бұрын
Brendan A. MacWade I remember that as well. Insanely expensive cars that weren't high volume sellers!
@jonnyspeed9 жыл бұрын
Brendan A. MacWade I'm thinking it must have had more to do with exchange rates. $45k in 1995 is basically $70k in 2015. That's nuts. I loved these cars, but there is no way I would pay that much for a modern version of any of them over a C7 Vette, Porsche, or Jag F-Type.
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials9 жыл бұрын
The RX-7 is the cheapest here at $37,800 which is $56,500 today. The Supra at $49,000 is $73,300 today. That's almost new Z06 money.
@9890jsp9 жыл бұрын
It's why they were never a sales success. America at the time, did not want to spend that much money on something with a Toyota or Mazda badge. The cars were fantastic, but camaros & mustangs were insanely cheaper and we're synonymous with performance. A insanely expensive Japanese car just wasn't
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials9 жыл бұрын
Camaro Z28 was about $20,000 in 1994, or $30,000 less than the Supra TT, and barely slower.
@speterbilt4 жыл бұрын
24 yrs later and these still look fantastic!
@RobAlpacaflip5 жыл бұрын
The 3000gt VR4 is severely underrated in todays market.
@johndrake27294 жыл бұрын
Swap the six for a V8, and it's a serious rival to a 928.
@Wik3dNuTS4k4 жыл бұрын
@@johndrake2729 it would be a very tight squeeze for an 8
@johndrake27294 жыл бұрын
@@Wik3dNuTS4k Ah.
@lonestar1994 жыл бұрын
@@johndrake2729 It is. The v6 barely fits in the bay.
@erty23894 жыл бұрын
John Drake have you seen a 3000gt engine bay?? No way in hell you could fit a v8 in there lmao Just slap on a bigger turbo and you got 400-500 hp easy
@animal163659 жыл бұрын
And these 4 cars still hold there value
@MrTenshinhan1008 жыл бұрын
Sadly for the most of us, they do...
@bandombeviews60356 жыл бұрын
animal16365 Not the 3000gt vr4, or the 300zx.
@hooiscast36446 жыл бұрын
BandomBeviews in a couple of years the Will have there value back
@bandombeviews60356 жыл бұрын
hoois cast I hope not Then i couldn't buy one
@hooiscast36446 жыл бұрын
haha i have the same, im looking for a 3000GT VR-4
@NexiTech5 жыл бұрын
What a awesome video! Love the Japanese turbo 90' cars! P.S. Supra is my favourite.
@TTime6855 жыл бұрын
I uses to see 300ZXs on the highway as a child. It was definitely the first one I remember really liking
@robpierce586 жыл бұрын
why are they telling me the 300zx is 10 inches longer than the vr4? its actually 10 inches shorter
@horseplop95 жыл бұрын
Because John was Drunk durring the Video. thats true
@daedalus_20v4 жыл бұрын
@hand registered ...but that's not a 2+2 in the video. Even then, a 2+2 would still be 3 inches SHORTER than a VR4. The 2+0 in this video is 11+ inches shorter. But hey, they didn't get the weight right either, so...
@bartscanland94154 жыл бұрын
@hand registered it's probably because you did suggest that the vehicle in question was the ZX 2+2. When I heard John Goss say it was 10 inches longer I checked the video to see if it was the 2+2. It was the 2 seater which is easily identified by the fuel filler door being in front of the rear wheel and not behind it.
@GForceVRX3 жыл бұрын
The good old days, they’re all brilliant cars, the 3000GT is my favourite thou
@revengefullobster45247 жыл бұрын
Over 20 years now and these are still beautiful cars, and I still want one. Styling wise, these are probably some of the best looking cars ever made. Still head turners and pretty fast. I wish I could've afforded one back then.
@jponz855 жыл бұрын
Rx-7 was such an amazing car, too bad the rx-8 never lived up to it's hype
@jponz853 жыл бұрын
@Justin Mayberry combined with the worse of everything you mentioned: rotary engine
@rodmunch692 жыл бұрын
It was a Miata hardtop, it wasn't anything impressive.
@jponz852 жыл бұрын
@@rodmunch69 nothing impressive? It was a light chassis with a turbo, which a miata never had lol. It kept up with 300zx tt as well as 3000gt vr4, which is all tt.
@rodmunch692 жыл бұрын
@@jponz85 the fact you think a Miata is hot s--- says everything about you, and how limp your wrist is. Go back to cruising bath houses to find people impressed by your opinion.
@joseromero3445 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to drive a 3000gt vr4 they are FAST AS HELL. When I sat in the back seat and my cousin drove it I was about to cry it was so dam fast and would pull us back it was unbelievable
@neelon20075 жыл бұрын
All 4 went on to become legends
@BuckeyeBallistics8 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the driver side hood gap on the Supra?
@bliglum8 жыл бұрын
+Guns&Cars Yeah.. Maybe someone closed the hood on a tool or something.
@joshriver758 жыл бұрын
me too..I was gonna comment on that.
@recpro78478 жыл бұрын
+Guns&Cars Supras have that double latch. They missed one, lol.
@BuckeyeBallistics8 жыл бұрын
Rec Pro Are you serious or joking?
@joshriver758 жыл бұрын
Guns&Cars Double latch meaning like a hook and latch at each corner vs just in the middle of the hood. I believe that is what he meant. But regardless it still doesn't change the fact a tool or something is likely left under the hood. Double or single..it should still close the same way. Jmho
@abusalim47527 жыл бұрын
i had owned 300ZX , Supra , and 3000GT VR4 and i must say 300ZX was the best of them ✌
@cool38655 жыл бұрын
thats because you never drove the 3rd gen RX-7, it would change your mind really quick
@ttran85385 жыл бұрын
I work at the used car lot. I drove most of those cars and only own a supra. Most of All the 300zx now day, are in the junkyard and Some 3000gt.
@anjelicachurch15115 жыл бұрын
Ben DC4L definitely
@303storm5 жыл бұрын
Plus the T-Top. I love mine too. Better than the Skyline too.
@skip741x35 жыл бұрын
the 300zx still looks like sex on wheels....what a gorgeous ,timelss looking car..i never owned one but drove a few of the twin turbos when they were at dealerships..id granny out of the parking lots ,then goose the hell out of it for 20 mins of test ride..i used to do that with the supra turb o, the rx7 turbo ,mustangs ect then id come granny toodling back into dealer view... Good times!
@nerad19946 жыл бұрын
3000gt is by far the most timeless car regarding its looks, absolutely beautiful looking
@johndrake27294 жыл бұрын
Yep. It should have had the RWD frame, like the Starion it supposedly replaced.
@Wik3dNuTS4k4 жыл бұрын
The first gen vr4 is such a beaut
@ahmedislam25802 жыл бұрын
@@johndrake2729 awd is better than rwd i think
@johndrake27292 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedislam2580 Yeah, I'm thinking it should have been RWD as standard and AWD for the high performance version. Same with the Stealth. Where did Mitsubishi think they were going with a FWD chassis?
@ahmedislam25802 жыл бұрын
@@johndrake2729 I think this was normal for that time. some famous japanese cars had both awd and fwd versions just like the , toyota celica , honda integra, mitsubishi eclipse
@300zxttswap64 жыл бұрын
The original, and the slowest of the 4. Best balanced.
@300zxttswap64 жыл бұрын
@Noble Khan Again...with low to mid 13s and a high 12s ET STOCK for the 3000GT VR4, there's no way in hell a stock 300ZX TT can take on one of those beasts, especially a '94-'99 model. Luckily the Z is a better car. It may not be as fast on a track but it's insanely more fun to drive, and fast enough to get you into trouble. It also had a better interior and higher quality all around, and imo made the others look like shit. It took all the good things out of the others and made it into a balanced package - it had the tech and GT feel of the VR4, the sports car handling of the FD3, and just plain out handled the Supra. You seem to only be focused on straight lines, which isn't the Z's strong point. I guess it's not the slowest, it did tend to outrun the FD3 after awhile. You're also not getting the gearing advantage (6 speed, better ratios), HP and ESPECIALLY TQ advantage, nor the insane AWD launch advantage the VR4 has. I've seen stock 1G VR4s beat Vipers just because of the launch. By the time the Z is at 20mph gaining traction, the VR4 is already car lengths ahead and going 35-45mph. The Z gains back some of those car lengths from a dig, but nowhere near all of them - with 283 lb.ft of TQ for a 3400-3550 lb vehicle, it's just not enough. As I showed you, it's not even a fair comparison. That's why my other Z twin turbo, a 1995, is modded and puts down over 500@whp. That's the other thing I don't get about you - do you even realize that if both are fully modded the Z easily has the advantage? After BPU stage, the Z starts making gains that the VR4 has to work harder for and it costs more money. You don't talk about any of the Z's good traits. Running a 13.71@103.96, my best personal time in my stock 1991 ZTT, isn't impressive in 2019...my buisness partners best of 13.09@104.02 IS impressive for 2019. The Supra TT and VR4 are the only two of the four (and the Skyline series) that runs relevant numbers stock. The Supra hits mid 13s and traps 106-109mph, and the VR4 hits high 12s/low-low mid 13s stock. The Z32 and FD3 were always high 13s all day. If you can find a mag article of a stock Z32 running mid 13s I'd love to see it. You have to ask yourself a serious question now - do you want to look like a fool and keep lying and referring back to two MotorWeek videos when the VR4 beat those times in it's 1994 test and in every magazine comparison after 1994 the VR4 ran better numbers, it's UNDENIABLE. I suggest you take the high road and either walk away and not respond with your tail between your legs, your usual MO, or respond like a man. Your choice kid.
@300zxttswap64 жыл бұрын
@Noble Khan What a surprise you won't respond. Gee i wonder why
@300zxttswap64 жыл бұрын
@Noble Khan See, this is why you can't dispute anything. So stop arguing against facts.
@300zxttswap64 жыл бұрын
@Noble Khan And it won ONE comparison test. Unfortunately, again, the VR4 beat that time two years prior, and it was a 96 Z which is the slowest one 🤔
@300zxttswap64 жыл бұрын
@Noble Khan Also, as I said, i love the Z32. I don't get worked up just because the VR4 was faster stock, who cares.
@SoCalFreelance6 жыл бұрын
Proud to have owned a 300ZX and then a 3000GT in the 90's. Many great memories with those cars.
@RyanHough05 жыл бұрын
The best 4 cars ever made right there.. They could start making the again exactly as they are and they would sell like hot cakes!
@Krezo2005 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hough exactly
@runyanpiano3 жыл бұрын
Do hot cakes really sell the fastest?
@rodmunch692 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@Acc0rd799 жыл бұрын
Let me step back, my eyes just had an orgasm! This was one of the best videos of your throwback series yet. The 90's were the best decade for cars all around that we have had since the 60's. Those numbers today are pretty impressive and every one of those cars still look good and turn heads today on the road, and they are 20 years old! Great job MW!!!
@rockolutheran5 жыл бұрын
The 3000GT was a badass design. The value is going up on them
@MrGunzngirlz6 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how excellent these all are, then there's the NSX, which is on a whole different level. Crazy.
@ryanchristensen17995 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget seeing and hearing a twin turbo supra back in 1997. I was in high school in my buddies 1995 Nissan 240sx when we came up behind that beauty. The supra driver floored it and it was the first time I ever heard a turbo which sounded like a damn vacuum cleaner. I was perplexed as to what made that sound until I became more educated on these type of cars. Coolest thing I experienced back in the good old days!
@genec22353 жыл бұрын
Wonder why the 96 3000GT is so much slower than the 94? MotorWeek tested it the 94 at 0-60 in 4.9 with a quarter mile in 13.5 secs. Tyres or just driver difference?
@catm44035 жыл бұрын
Well I guess this is what old people says: They don't make 'em like this anymore.
@RB-ts9kz5 жыл бұрын
I'm old.. Its true
@sheauterngleow68106 жыл бұрын
I still owning one By far still a timeless classic GTO.
@The300ZXGuru5 жыл бұрын
The 300zx is the only one in this line up to hold a WORLD RECORD!!!! Thats right. WORLD RECORD!!!!!! To this day the 300zx was the fasest in the EMBS class on the salts!!!!! 300zx is GODZILLA!
@ascott21687 жыл бұрын
ahhhh, 80s and 90s babies muscle cars !!! If I could get my hands on a '96 3000GT VR4 in pearl white and a 98 Supra Turbo in blue..omg..
@tirekickers66326 жыл бұрын
The 300zx is by far the best value for money of these cars.
@KaedeAnimation3 жыл бұрын
@jasper426 only the SL Model are cheap but VR4 are so expensive.
@KaedeAnimation3 жыл бұрын
@jasper426 might as well get a dirty one and I'll do the cleaning myself.
@htbud115 жыл бұрын
I have a 91 vr4 sitting in my garage. My brother bought it new. I haven't driven it in years.
@skylinefever8 жыл бұрын
I wanted a twin turbo 300ZX from the day it first came out. It is also one reason I dreamed about visiting Japan since I was 5 years old. Years later I read the May 1998 Issue of Sport Compact Car. The featured article was "How to get 450HP from a Twin Turbo Z." I saw a photo of the R34 prototype in the back of the magazine, and I would do almost anything to get one. The car just looked so perfect.
@rtardbox8 жыл бұрын
+Skyline Fever well, i got a great shape 1996 convertible z for $2500 three years ago. all it needed was a timing belt and new front seals and general maintenance. now here i am 3 years later with $7500 into it and it's better than new. 19" polished rims, 2din carbon fiber with amazing head unit, a few other upgrades and a NOS system that puts in a 100 HP shot! That's about 310 HP to the ground in this N/A car and it's solid as a rock, very fun and with the top up or down it is a CLASSIC look. I've wanted one of these since the 90's and now I got her. She's a beauty and she's kinda fun to work on what with the timing belt and parts and upgraded seats and upgraded ... well, other stuff ... I'll probably keep her forever. Back in 1995 I got a brand new RX-7 and she's still with me today. I dunno which one I like more. I love 'em both
@skylinefever8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you have the car you always wanted. I think I would want to keep the 1995 RX-7 more because they are more rare. However, there is a huge advantage to the 300ZX. They tend to last longer than a turbocharged RX-7. I knew 2 people with turbocharged RX-7s, they both needed an engine rebuild after about 80,000 miles. However, they both said that driving an RX-7 was so enjoyable, that they felt engine rebuilding was worth it.
@gadgetsgalore9 жыл бұрын
What's with the hood on the Supra. Huge gap on the drivers side.
@daison969 жыл бұрын
Haha, I noticed the same thing!
@NeoS2819 жыл бұрын
gadgetsgalore I noticed that as well. It just looks like it wasn't closed on the driver side completely. My mom's old C5 vette used to do the same (annoying).
@MrTenshinhan1008 жыл бұрын
That happens to a lot of toyotas back in the day, especially on the driver's side.
@palebeachbum7 жыл бұрын
I remember reading in one of the car mags that they had to put duct tape over the gap at the leading edge of the hood on the Supra because it wanted to lift at high speed. Toyota. lol
@SummonerArthur5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that also... Lol
@bencrosbie5 жыл бұрын
Wish 3000gt was just as popular :( they were an epic car. well the gto
@charjohnnie9 жыл бұрын
Mitsubishi gone Supra long gone RX7 long gone... The only one left is the Nissan Z in this category but without support from the other Japanese markets this class is heading extinction...
@triggernutsy19 жыл бұрын
+charjohnnie sic thats because they wont compete,the last time i saw a 350z test it lost to a dodge neon lol.
@Parkskigaming6 жыл бұрын
The supra is coming back and the Rx-7 may make a return to
@letsroll24636 жыл бұрын
supra is using the same engine as bmw, and ive heard bad things from them, all down hill from here.... Z line is not competing with the muscle cars anymore, back then a 350z would be on par with a mustang gt, nowdays the gap has widen. Japan cannot compete, innovation is going strong in US markets now, this is why mitsubishi failed, sitting on their high crown for more than a decade without doing nothing killed them.
@cool38655 жыл бұрын
@@Parkskigaming the rotary engine will never make a return, times and environmental concerns have changed
@joshuaheaton91535 жыл бұрын
letsroll it’s sad but true Japanese sports cars were awesome back then and now almost non existent. If only Mitsubishi could make a new 3000GT. If only !!!!!
@6gwilliams5 жыл бұрын
I had the RX7, actually all three generations of the RX7 and an RX8. Nothing quite like them ever. Cheers
@jonathankeith5244 жыл бұрын
I wish cars were like this these days. Nowadays, people only care about convenience, and having the car do all of the work. We need raw, unique sports cars like this again. By the way, I was born in 1996, the same year all of these specific cars were produced! :)
@Pietro9315 жыл бұрын
The 3000GT VR4 was so ahead of it's time.
@hellkitty10144 жыл бұрын
Very. Active aero, 4 wheel steer, sequential turbos(VERY little lag)...very techy for the day.
@Pietro9314 жыл бұрын
@@hellkitty1014 Add electronic controlled suspension (ecs) to that list. I have one with low miles and it is a joy to drive. Great ride, sound system, and love that rear spoiler come up at speed.
@hellkitty10144 жыл бұрын
@@Pietro931 AWESOME! I've always said if Mitsu would've continued to invest properly in their brand with competitive SUVs and other vehicles, they would've had the ultimate JDM supercar, making the GT-R seem like a kit car. Their advancements in technology, power, and speed in the 90s was above reproach!(there are reasons why supercar makers like Ferrrari, Lambo, and Bugatti use Mitsubishi turbos and other electronics in their $500k-$2M cars).The 3000GT/Stealth STILL drive like modern cars. This is the same company that gave us the great Evo as well, so I know they must still have some passion in there somewhere!
@Pietro9314 жыл бұрын
@@hellkitty1014 agreed 100%.
@nosenserunner90895 жыл бұрын
Even by today’s standards they represent an amazing menu to pick from Japan. This decade was a period of timeless, nostalgic designs. Besides these entree choices I would also take an Integra, Prelude, Celica, Eclispe, Civic Si, MR2, NSX, SC400, XT, Legend, CRX, SVX, and 240SX. Did I miss anything? The 80’s May have the music but the 90’s set the standard for the Japanese auto industry. If the Japanese needed a boost, bring back these cars! I would gladly partake. Why not, everything else is making a comeback.
@DJPleasureSeekingMissle3 жыл бұрын
You missed the Miata but they still make it today so it doesn’t count.
@username-videos8 жыл бұрын
Really love the retro editing. Entertaining and informative!
@SilverScarletSpider4 жыл бұрын
I can’t stop watching this video every month.
@lordmaster55225 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the 90s includes MR2, Prelude, SVX, Celica All-Trac, Eclipse GST/GSX, Gallant VR4, Del Sol, Integra GSR, NSX, MX3, NX2000, 240SX, Impluse, etc.
@wt82135 жыл бұрын
s13, s14, s15, r32, r33, r34, pulsar, stegia, chaser, mark 2, cressida, Soarer, Aristo, forster sti, legacy gtb, Impreza sti (1-6), lancer Evo (1-6), Galant vr4.
@trent70804 жыл бұрын
Mitsubishi 3000GT was underrated.
@ryane67192 жыл бұрын
It’s 2021 and the Rx-7 still looks good. Timeless design.
@lonewanderer54139 жыл бұрын
They're wrong about a couple of things, the 300zx and the Supra weigh almost the same and they're both almost the same length and height, while the VR4 is longer than both and heavier.
@TheBrownGarage9 жыл бұрын
right now, near me theres a 3000gt vr4 with the 4 way steering for sale, guy only wants 2500 so some thins wrong but still, good price
@t1995roger109 жыл бұрын
Did you buy it?!
@daver539 жыл бұрын
+ChronicConnoisseur Incredibly complex and parts are hard to come by. Mitsu just wasn't as bullet proof as the other Japanese makes.
@TheBrownGarage9 жыл бұрын
no i didnt, i gota finish at least 1 of my other projects before i get another lol, but unsure on the motor, turbos were shot and wouldnt crank, price was cheap so the guy knew what was up or at least knew that somethin was very wrong lol
@cglawrence5 жыл бұрын
still think the GT VR4 is the best looking one.
@TooLooze5 жыл бұрын
As owner of the last of the first generation RX7s (FB), I was very disappointed to learn of all the issues of the beautiful third generation. I bought mine the year my son was born and gave it to him on his 17th birthday. Never had a bit of trouble with it.
@LordHolley Жыл бұрын
It really is a trip seeing these JDM icons. It's sasy to forget how slow cars were back then. There are trucks and SUV's that would give those cars a run today.
@EvanMoon5 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think back then. Now the Nissan’s GT-R starts at 100k And you can get Chevy Camaro with 300 hp for a reasonable price
@spacelube58455 жыл бұрын
The Supra´s bonnet is not closed properly.
@mpa19315 жыл бұрын
Damn those prices they were listed in the 90s are still pretty high in todays standards. Wow only the fortunate could own these beauties.
@artistnyc1233 жыл бұрын
Japanese 90's muscle car wars. Would love to have any one of those. Motorweek was wise to see their demise coming with this episode.
@VaughnJogVlog8 жыл бұрын
I had a 300ZX in that awesome green. I guess dark green is as '90s as a car color gets.
@isiahkennerly94588 жыл бұрын
Lol definitely . Instant nostalgia with a dark green
@1SaG5 жыл бұрын
Yup. I had a Golf Mk III in VWs dark green metallic back in the 90s ... and I got sick of the colour pretty quickly because every other current car on the road was painted like that. :)
@christopherwalker60566 жыл бұрын
Okay Motorweek, what's going on here with your test driver? In your last test of the '94 300GT VR4 (it was yellow with tan interior) you said the 0-60 time was 4.9 seconds. Now with this '96 model you say 0-60 was 5.7 seconds? Nearly a second slower on a newer model?
@Riskbreaker_Riot6 жыл бұрын
Christopher Walker The test drivers and the road. A lot of the test drivers back then didn't know how to launch an AWD car.
@rickd10285 жыл бұрын
Chris Walker you are exactly right. The last VR-4 they tested went 0-60 in 4.9. Also, Dodge recorded several back to back 0-60 runs in 4.8-4.9seconds bone stock. Either the Motorweek driver of this particular episode had no clue how to launch an AWD car or that particular test car had a boost leak or an issue with the wastegates, who knows. Bottom line those numbers he got 0-60 and 1/4 mile were considerably slower than previous tests.
@christopherwalker60564 жыл бұрын
@@Riskbreaker_Riot ahh, that makes sense. I didn't even consider that.
@ChevyPedia5 жыл бұрын
To whoever took the time to post these old videos.. Thank you!!!
@Motorweek5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@johnnyg11322 жыл бұрын
God those cars were awesome. I think the Dodge Stealth version of the Mitsubishi was nicer looking. Thanks for uploading these Retro reviews.
@26zilence9 жыл бұрын
The Z is just a beast... from day 1 it was clear the winner of the 4. #nissan #champ
@9890jsp9 жыл бұрын
But unfortunately an incredibly hideous car. Nissan builds some fugly ass cars. Cube, Versa, Sentra, juke.. They build such fantastic powetrains but hideous fucking cars. Except the GTR they did that one right.
@FalkenWolf9 жыл бұрын
9890jsp The 300zx is the best looking out of them, even listed amongst the top 100 beautiful cars in the world by Edmunds. Now, most cars from 2003 onwards were ugly, yes. And you're on crack if you think the GTR looks anything good. I'll take an R34 skyline GTR and older ones before I even consider an R35 GTR.
@26zilence9 жыл бұрын
9890jsp let me guess.. u own a 1985 saab jajaj and u talking bout looks. lol the Z even in this era looks fresh.. Beautiful lines and big power .. what else u want kid.
@lookmomnobrakes95499 жыл бұрын
+9890jsp Wait what the heck is wrong with your eyes. I mean we all have our opinions but come on, I cannot see how the 300zx is ugly.
@wajalama9 жыл бұрын
+FalkenWolf I'd say the FD RX7 is the best looking, and also better performing, the chassis still looks timeless even as of today.
@westsidejatt26 жыл бұрын
those times for the vr-4 make no sense, the review for the 1994 vr4 they got 0-60 at 4.9s. Must have changed drivers, because the 96 cannot be slower then the 94.
@CBTalon976 жыл бұрын
I thought they ran mid-high 13s for the most part. The GTO (Japan) MR ran high 12s out of the box.
@Riskbreaker_Riot6 жыл бұрын
It's whatever driver/ road conditions they had. Early 90s it was also tested at 4.5-4.8. In the early 90s a lot of the test drivers didn't know how to launch or drive an AWD car. So the the RWD cars had better test numbers for most of the test. Also with a tuned chrome ecu, stock vr4s can see 12.5 qm times now
@boss122 жыл бұрын
This was like the Muscle Car era for Japan. So much performance just because they could do it.
@es-ed5ug5 жыл бұрын
did they test these on ice to get those 0-60 times? Regardless all had the misfortune of being in the same price point of the Corvette. Bet anyone who bought a corvette that year wishes they had a clean example of one of these now.
@LeaperChad75 жыл бұрын
3000GT was a great design by Mitsubishi. They should bring it back with a 3.7L with 370 hp. What happened to Mitsubishi? I owned 2 made by them. A colt and a 97 Galant. Very reliable and well designed vehicles.
@Krezo2005 жыл бұрын
Chad Faul sadly mitsubishi is gone
@LeaperChad75 жыл бұрын
Hun? They still sell vehicles in the US.
@Krezo2005 жыл бұрын
Chad Faul they are nothing compared to their former self, thats what i meant
@rodmunch692 жыл бұрын
You admit to owning a Galant? LOL!OL!OLOL! Wow. People on the internet have no shame.
@metro761005 жыл бұрын
I had this copy damn memories soft spot 300zx
@znismo16 жыл бұрын
I see you guys have been making great car vids for a long time. Love all the specs and comparisons
@BrawlFreak7865 жыл бұрын
NSX Supra RX-7 3000GT Skyline R33/34 300ZX The Golden Age of Japanese Sports Cars
@austinj20688 жыл бұрын
All of these cars are just awesome. Its too bad they are all gone... I'm glad they revived the Z cars at least though, I love my 350z. :)
@dariocastro90796 жыл бұрын
i drive mi dodge stealth in argentina so they are not gone ... they still got life and turning to classic in other countrys there are only 6 dodge stealth in argentina and only 60 3000gt ... and i always read that you say baad things about this car...here all love mi stealth and they wan to take pictures and ask questions XD and it cost 17/44 k depends of the version XD thats a lot of money here... and there are all in gret shape with less than 70k miles
@303storm5 жыл бұрын
Z32 > Z33
@Vanbul18 жыл бұрын
Herbert Spencer coined Survival of the fittest not Darwin.
@mikezerker69254 жыл бұрын
The starting price of the new Supra is the same as the old one! Pretty impressive!
@ChrisLitton7 жыл бұрын
Nobody can stop us driving these classic sports cars. I will never stop driving my AW11 it's the best car I've ever owned.
@Boog13man8 жыл бұрын
Their predictions were correct. "Cars are heaps of shit now days".
@DoomFinger5115 жыл бұрын
You seem to forget what all the other 90's cars were like back then...
@askip93045 жыл бұрын
Well you haven't seen a lot of cars these days then lol
@AnonYmous-iw6rh4 жыл бұрын
their predictions of doom were right 😢😢😢
@JanWyFoo5 жыл бұрын
The Fairlady is still here all the while, and the Supra is back. Now waiting for the Mit GTO and the long waited RX-7.
@swazi54 жыл бұрын
This was the peak of 90's sports cars and of MotorWeek