The Olympic team knew. They voted her Captain. :)

@@Janellabelle Being Captain has no relevance on how much credit she was given for her routine. That she was chosen to be the start off gymnast on beam does lend itself to knowing how solid she was.

@kras118 - I agree, however being the lead off gymnast on beam in Atlanta gives some merit to how solid she was. In fact she and Jaycie were chosen to start the 4 apparatus' between them because they were reliable. I know Mary Lee Tracey spoke about the decision and discussing it with the girls in some fluff piece or documentary.

Yeah, everyone was like "Shannon this" and "Moceanu that" and "look at what Kerri did!". Amanda was solid.

@@DizzyedUpGirl Moceanu sucked at the Games. Way overhyped. Shannon and Dawes were the leading stars, while Borden and Phelps were rock solid. Chow did her main job and killed bars, even winning a surprise individual medal for the U.S. Strug was overhyped for the one vault, but she scored the highest compulsory scores on both floor and vault which was a rare star moment for her in her career and big for the U.S team. Moceanu just stunk, always overrated.

omg yes

Getting a new coach certainly didn't work out for Strug, she almost broke her neck and he wasn't there to spot her, sometimes it's a risky move to change coaches!

Agreed!!!!

@@georgiarogers9257 coaches generally don't spot on compulsories; that would have been very strange, especially on what was really a simple skill that most Level 8s were learning then.

@@georgiarogers9257 Karolyi was her coach before Nunno. She only went to Nunno after Karolyi “retired”. 🤷🏼‍♀️ With the fall she had, it wouldn’t have been something to spot. Why spot in compulsories?

Crushed velvet leotards were the most comfortable Leo's ever! I'm sure they will come back. I hates when the new ones started to come in. They itched so bad.

AHHHHH THE 90Zs THE BEST ERA EVER & I'M MORE THAN PROUD TO HV BEEN IN THE MAKING OF IT 💯 DEFINITELY A TIME TO BE ALIVE & TIME WAS HAD!!!!

You & I, Also All of USA aswell 💯

This is my generation of gymnast!☺

Yes, my favorite era as well.

Yes!!!! I always say the same

Shannon Miller is a great example of a favourite and Dominique Moceanu but my fav is Kerri Strug

Soni Meduna had a bad back injury in the gym that kept her from competing. Marianna Webster, Soni, Jenni Thompson, Michi Ishakawa, Kelly Brunk, all those Dynamo Gymnastics girls under Steve were incredible. I trained at Dynamo, here in OKC from 94-96 when I was 8-10. It was an experience watching Miller train for '96. I have a picture I've framed of myself with Peggy Liddick, on the floor at State. This, in my opinion, was THE Era. And don't get me started on Lilia or Svetlana😍😂

Andie Bunker I agree, it's ironic when the new code is referred to as "open-ended" but you tend to see similar routines, especially Russian-esque bar routines (ex. maloney-pak salto-van leeuwen-toe on 1/2-jaeger-toe on full to full in dismount). LOL. I think it's because certain skills are valued more and gymnasts are trying to do them to maximize on the difficulty without much risk. I feel like they should add an extra 5 tenth requirement to bars, beam and floor for originality. This will give an incentive for gymnasts to have more unique routines.

Finally someone agrees with me.

@@waiduehubu512 Or they could add other requirements that prevented routines being over-filled with poorly performed high level skills at the cost of more technical aspects. For eg. connections on UB, BB & FX of lower value could allow more creativity and unique style in the routines.

That's fair

I agree. I used to love the floor routines, but now its the one thing I don't want to watch.

beffyblb all of them

beffyblb I know ! lol

I know I was like "WTF?!" hahahaha

@@rcarnegie78 like she a beast or sum😂

Torri Twyman I know it’s hilarious

I know!! Now i know that strug weighs eighty seven!! Putting their weight on tv is ridiculous

There's no point. I can understand height but weight is irrelevant

So tacky!

When they show weights in men’s sports no one bats an eye. Why is it fine to show the men’s weights but not the women’s?

Unreal. Hyper aggressive and commentating so harsh. This code of points and panel of experts/coaches/head(s) of USA and USOG...I'm not surprised the such harsh commentating . nowadays it can be harsh BUT they Stoll speak so much more about execution nowadays. I love. It . artistic gymnastics eans artistic...gymnastics..

***** same gave me chills, so passionate

Lol. He knew everyone could hear him with that microphone so why not act a fool so ppl can hear u lol

Yeah that’s how I saw it too - he was craving the attention he knew he’d get.

@@vmurt yeah he was a creep first and foremost. He even sounded fake when he was trying to be encouraging.

Ugh Steve Nunno is so obnoxious. It’s hard to listen to 🤢

2022 here love em. Teresa Robertson

Right!?! All the Feels 🥰🥰🥰🥰

Good GOD I had so many scrunchies....one for every outfit! I remember going to school and we would all compliment eachothers scrunchies😂 barf

I was there wearing the scrunchies too! What a time to be alive. You just had to be there 💯

she'll always be a legend, one of the best gymnasts of all time regardless of nationality

It is too bad she couldn't do better in Atlanta? She won 2 golds, I would say she did pretty good, LOL!

Agreed

Wasn't she the highest scorer in Compulsories in Atlanta? (I think?) And then became first American to win an Olympic Gold on Beam! She was great! It wasn't the medal sweep of Barcelona but was still fantastic.

It was excruciatingly saccharine and full of pro-American propaganda. It always treated this young athletes as if they were somehow not fully autonomous and under grip of their looming coaches who were doing the "real work." Please don't be silly.

I miss Bart conner’s commentary! Tim and elfie are nails on a chalk board! They both sound like bitter queens, especially Elfie

@@lc1715 it IS America, after all. 🇺🇸🌟🇺🇸🌟🇺🇸

And their love for “little girls”? Calling 19yo’s “ancient”? No.... just no. Disgusting, especially after Larry Nassar bc he was the team doctor at this point.

except that awful double layout

I was watching some of the 1992 competitions and even then she was miles ahead of her teammates in execution and amplitude.

@@Diemme_ Betty Okino was just a beautiful in terms of straight legs, pointed feet and just all around amazing technique and execution, but she had nowhere near the power or amplitude that Shannon did.

Shannon is one of the best ever in the world but gets overlooked because she was quiet, serious, and humble and never won all-around Olympic gold.

@@trumpgoogledmyyahoo7621 Betty was tall, n started gym at like 10

Agreed.

She looked super uncomfortable everytime he hugged her too.

She looked SO annoyed when she came off floor and he was smothering her. 🤦‍♀️ Now that I’ve watched more.. after her first vault she really looks like she doesn’t want anything to do with him.. like she looked happy about sticking until he walked up on the stage...

But in her comeback in 2000, she said she wouldn't work with any coach but him... lol, yall gotta stop

She liked her coach. If you watch her documentary she talks about how much she liked him and how they worked as a team to make her an Olympian.

I know. That 9.8 on beam was ridiculous, it was a perfect routine with a point 1 hop on landing, I was disappointed for her

Yep. The karolyis didn’t care about injuries and it’s sad

I was 10, I'm right there with you! Memories🤗

I was 7! My Olympic moment too, and then after that she went on a tour signing autographs and I got her autograph at a grocery store! I was sooo nervous to meet her!! She was a sweetie and she said she liked my homemade "I ❤ Gymnastics" shirt. :)

Meeee I was 9 lol. And I was already in ballet, but then I begged to be in gymnastics and only made it 6 months lol. I liked the uneven bars and the beam for myself but in the competitions I watch, I cant pick a favorite lol. I love watching them all

​@Janellabelle awww that was sweet of her Lil lying self 😂

​@@TaurusWitch29right!? Love them all!!!

Yes

Yes. I think Dawes was amazing at optionals and Shannon was amazing at compulsories.

Oksana Chusovitina is from Uzbekistan, and she has actually been to seven Olympics--Barcelona, Atlanta, Sydney, Athens, Beijing, London and Rio. It's amazing!

fnrsgrl we might see her in Tokyo

@@fnrsgrl I love her. In Rio, she was in her 40s and she made it to the finals in vault!

Yeah it was really shocking to rewatch and see the unmitigated sexist bullshit baked into the narratives.

It's really weird how they talk like that considering it was nothing but WOMEN who were competing in gymnastics prior to Nadia Comaneci's debut. Think of Larissa Latynina, Vera Caslavska, Ludmilla Tourisheva, Nellie Kim, Olga Korbut, Doris Fuchs Brause etc. I'm so damn glad women are taking the sport back. The lies being told about how women couldn't do this or that because of their bodies, was nothing short of borderline pedophilia to keep young prepubescent girls competing to control them, emotionally abuse them and sometimes sexually abuse them. I remember reading how the Karolyis treated the girls while they were coaches in both Romania and the US. It was horrible reading about the abuse and how scared the girls were. Many of the Romanian and Russian gymnasts have come forward with stories of abuse. I was appalled at how emotionally abusive Octavian Belu was and how he treated Alexandra Marinescu. And we must not forget Yelena Mukhina. She said, coach Mikhail Klimenko treated her like she wasn't even human. Kept pushing her and pushing her to more and more dangerous skills which ultimately resulted in quadriplegia. That's the kinda crap a woman wouldn't take and people know it and don't like it. Hence, why so many women have been low key insulted and called divas for their strong personalities. Svetlana Boguinskaya, Svetlana Khorkina, Aliya Mustafina, Gabby Douglas etc., all scrutinized for their behavior and being called difficult, or not perky enough for the audience or not smiling enough etc.

I love anything crushed velvet!

MissLilRedRooster Definitely don’t miss the sweat stains in their underarms area!

they are super pretty

Amazing? She's PHENOMENAL!!!

Kerri saved the gold for us, yea on a broke ankle, after Dom M fell twice! If she hadn't landed it we wouldn't have won team gold until 2012.

Lady Jay Mac incorrect. We actually didn’t need her vault to win. It was still spectacular tho. There real contributions came from miller in compulsories and Dawes in optionals.

@@JamesFrew1 ...Yes! That fact is overlooked consistently.

@@JamesFrew1 I admire her for her brave act but lets face it that moment gets way overhyped, especialy as you said the U.S still would have won Team Gold. And she milked the fame for that one vault for all it is worth when she was essentialy a very mediocre and sloppy gymnast. Yes I said it.

Bela Karolyi said at least a couple of times that Kerri Strug was the best gymnast-in practice. She would make mistakes-somewhere-at every meet. If she ever developed that killer, competitive, instinct, it was in Atlanta. I felt for her that her injury in team finals kept her out of the AA berth she earned there.

I really feel like the Karolyi’s sabotaged her on purpose. They really did not like her. You can tell by what Dominique writes in her book. They know nothing about proper training. They pushed all their athletes physically and manipulated them emotionally.

@@laurielynne2006 I 100% agree with you about sabotage!!

Yea that’s why they don’t allow that young of girls to go anymore it is 16

Old comment but I absolutely agree with you!

I had him as a coach 20 some years ago (I'm getting old) and he was a great coach! Always motivator. I dont understand all the hate he get in comments sometimes. Maybe the porn stache 😂😂😂

Agree!

@YoMeMyselfAndI - many people would be surprised by how amazing she was in 1992 as well. She and Mary become a must watch and she could've contended for the Olympic Team.

She was a breath of fresh air back the, and I'm sure she is now too. She just radiated positivity and sportsmanship. Her kids are truly blessed to have her for a mum.

Her gymnastics was very basic compared to the other girls

Captain Amanda is what I call her! She’s an awesome team leader and a great Mom! I’ve had a huge crush on her growing up 😍🥰😘😁👊🏾💍🌹

And now Biles is doing a double double beam dismount and training a double layout! I can't wait to that😁

@@trumpgoogledmyyahoo7621 have u seen the DBL layout yet?

Yes for sure. And sad how the commentators blamed her “nerves” when she was actually competing with a broken leg.

There are people who still call her a liar and side with her coaches. Sick!🤮

@@grassfedmilkmomma well to be fair it wasn’t the experience that anyone else had with them. Keri, Mary Lou, Kim, etc said they were tough but they weren’t abused. Dominique had a different experience because her dad wanted her to training to be strict, he was the one who pushed for and even took part in abusing her.

It's called criticism. If you never have someone telling you that you did bad or what you did bad you'd never improve. She has thick skin unlike seemingly EVERYONE now which is why she has her gold medal.

@@raymondpatrick430 she was beaten by the karolyi's so stop please..

I am wondering if they aired the event finals. I think it is possible they did not because some of the stars - Miller, Phelps, Moceanu, and Borden (the top 4 from the all around) pulled out of event finals. I also wonder if this is why they did away with an event finals day. I know they did one in 1999 then got rid of it again. Maybe they changed the format because post 1997 there were no compulsories, so there were two days of optional routines and they felt no need for a third day of optionals with event finals.

I would like to see that as well

That was in '94. It's on KZfaq. Just watched it a week ago

@@maggiebret Dawes also won all four event finals golds in ‘96! But there is no broadcast coverage, unfortunately.

😂😂😂that's hilarious!!

@kras118 - what a great read that was; how great to go from totally calm to laughing hysterically. Granted before reading what you thought he meant I thought you were maybe thinking he meant things like home, friends, family, etc.

😂😂😂😂😂

I know!! She nearly slammed her face!! At least she's okay though. But when it happened, don't you think the commentators sounded too dramatic?

She didn't have the best bars. Dawes did and was scored as such with the highest score. Miller was overscored on vault, floor and beam all. Jaycie definitely should have won.

Yep I remember that too

I agree

It’s so heartbreaking, it’s sickening what she went through. 😢

Jaycie was totally robbed. As you mentioned 9.3 on beam was an outright impossible score for Miller, just crazy. And after that they overscored Miller on every remaining event, and underscored Jaycie on all her remaining events (especialy vault and beam) to ensure Miller winning.

Honestly, the way they did deductions, 0.5 for the fall, 0.1 for the bobble on the punch front, 0.1 for the bobble on the handstand skill, so 0.7 in deductions, assuming she was working out of a 10.0 (I imagine she was), you get 9.3. Now, I don't necessarily agree, but we all know that there are a LOT of things in these routines that modern day judges would tear apart, but in the old 10.0 days there are a lot of things that seem to slide-- toe point issues, piked hips that should be open, cowboying........

@@JennaLeigh I mean we know for a fact without the handstand issue and punch front wobble she still wouldn't get a 10 or probably even a 9.9. She had several perfectly hit routines at the Olympics and never went higher than 9.862. And the punch front is clearly more than .1 anyway. There is no defense of the 9.3. The judges knew they had to fudge the scores of Miller or Moceanu once they both made major mistakes, since Phelps winning Nationals would have been disaester for the U.S image. I doubt they even win Team gold in Atlanta anymore so I get why they purposely fucked Phelps out of winning by underscoring all her last 3 routines, and bloating all of Shannon's scores once Moceanu, Dawes, Strug were even further back, but it was still wrong morally. Notice too how Phelps got only a 9.75 on beam when it was the exact same routine she did in qualifying at event worlds and got a 9.85 minus not doing the 3 layouts but that shouldn't matter since her routine was easily out of 10 anyway. I bet if Miller was way out in front she gets a 9.85 just like worlds mysteriously rather than 9.75, LOL!

I go back and forth with this scoring. At first, I thought Miller was overscored on floor, but then after Dominique M and Strug scored 9.8 and higher with those awkward landings...ugh. I can't decide. Wouldn't have scored Miller's beam over a 9.1. Phelps vaults...lots of deductions.

@@JennaLeigh That implies she was getting a 10 otherwise which we both know full well she wasn't, so that still isn't a correct or fair score.

She team didn't really need help on beam as they had an amazing beam team already, and an even more amazing bars team. Where they needed help was vault and to a minor degree floor. As she did not offer that, she was of no use to the team. I do like her beam a lot though.

The judges wanted to make sure Jaycie did not win the All Around since she was a "no name" and that would have hurt the teams reputation going into the Games if a no name won the US All Around. I doubt they win Team gold if Jaycie won the All Around at US Nationals.

Dude! Nunno is the king of being positive and cheering his girls on!

Nunno could literally not be more supportive and positive. Bela, yea... But nunno is literally Shannon's biggest fan!

@@JennaLeigh Nunno and Mary Lee Tracy are the epitome of positivity! Much like yours truly. I have many favorite women, but I’ll keep it short. Growing up, my crushes were Dominique Dawes and Amanda Borden😍🥰😘👊🏾💍🌹

@@Janellabelle Agreed, he was always and when she didn’t do good wasn’t harsh and found a way to help her improve

I had classes with Andree Pickens in high school. She was gone a lot from traveling to international competitions. She was also in the movie stick it with Bhardwaj.

+Kayla jones That's what I said, like she's about to let rip a violent sneeze! lol

Exactly! She looks a tiny bit like pennywise from the movie it!

I’m going with scary.

Right? I was SOOOOOOOO not expecting that. Definitely can't say she doesn't have passion!

Hilarious 😆😆

Oh boy try not to get triggered to hard, they were exposed as abusive.

And now Kristy's coah is the new person in charge of the US Women's team.

Jaycie's coach was such a chatterbox lol.

Maloney really benefitted from no compulsories.

What did she dominate in? Injuries? Bad form? I blame Parkettes for both.

@@christineharrelson4831 She won two national championships, sugar. DO TRY to keep UP!

That's because the scoring has totally been changed since 96

@@beambreaker even with 96 scoring, it doesn’t make sense

+Trace Vaughn right, but in optionals. not compulsories

Yea but its Optionals this time

Trace Vaughn That sucks.. um, Olympics '96 event finals. The end.

No unfortunately it wasn't. Most of the top athletes from the all around withdrew from the event finals which is probably why they didn't show it. Likely to stay healthy and focused on trials/Olympics.

The whole time watching this I was saying "God that crushed velvet is awful" 😂😂 it looks scratchy too, and hot.

I thought the same thing. Over the years, she has put her foot in her mouth many times... Thank God NBC let her go.

***** I think they were referring to the fact that she was the World All-Around Champion in both 1993 and 1994

NoneYour Bizness Becus Dawes consistently stepped on her own feet, but anyone w an objective view of the sport knew that she had been a better gymnast than Miller from 94 on! Shannon had amazing drive and competitiveness, but if you could get her and Dawes to both hit on the same day, we know who'd win.

+dmann3g Funny how Dawes never beat Miller at worlds/Olympics unless Miller made mistakes yet idiots like you still insist she was better

U know good n damn well that Shannon was the best in 92 n 93, n that was her peak. By 94 it was over. Dawes was flat out a much better package gymnast than Shannon. Shannon was great, but I cant respect ppl who are delusional abt their favs. Theyre over it 20 yrs later, u should be too

Not Saying lmao stop it Dawes only lost to Shannon when she herself, made mistakes. No fall on floor in 96 she’s AA champ. Stop it. Shannon scores were notoriously inflated.

+Saria Kokiri They didn't change the floor, they changed the scoring system. The old system capped out at 10 points, so if your competitors were posting 9.8s and 9.9s, you couldn't risk making a single mistake by attempting something more difficult. The new system gives each individual performance a different maximum score based on difficulty, so if your competitors have 9.9s, you can choose to go for a much harder routine worth 11 points, make a few mistakes and still win overall because your routine was worth more to begin with. So nowadays gymnasts aren't trying as hard to avoid mistakes as they used to.

+Doug Metris Right and Dominique Moceanu missing a skill and getting a 9.7 would have happened? This is Nationals everyone was overscored compared to a world competition. Dawes compulsories scores would have taken her out of the AA if she competed them at the Olympics.

+Doug Metris Why are you comparing the Olympics to a National competition because I must have missed that 9.9 floor and bars routine Dawes got in ATlanta. Compulsoies mattered and Miller owned every US gymnast on them and should have been way ahead of Phelps who had mistakes on beam and bars and floor. I was there

A 4 centimeter stress fracture can do that to you.

Same with abuse.

Um, she went to the Olympics after this... If she was struggling here it was because she was injured. Understandable

Lmbo 😂🤣

Pretty much all her scores. Her vault was nice but piked, not super amplitude, and looked like a small hop and got a 9.9, LOL! Floor was great, but she still would never get a 9.9 for that set anywhere else. They bent over backwards to gift her the win over her fall and Moceanus mistake on bars, since they couldnt stand the idea of a relative no name like Phelps being their National Champion which politically is probably smart but Phelps was robbed bigtime.

@@sandylenzo5525 it never seemed political to me....but i never looked at it that way. It always seemed to me that theyre always looking for the next big thing and lord knows the commentators were REALLYYYYYY putting Jaycie Phelps over big time. It never occurred to me that her finish was seen as political posturing for Miller.