1997 Porsche 911 Turbo S | Retro Review

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The last of the air cooled Porsches, the '97 911 Turbo S was an ultra limited production last call before the water cooled 911's were ushered in for 1998.
Show 1715 | Original Airdate 12-10-1997
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@Mystery_Man84
@Mystery_Man84 Жыл бұрын
0-60 in 3.9 seconds 25 years ago was pretty damn impressive…
@kyoakland
@kyoakland Жыл бұрын
Shit that was fast as hell a mid 12 in the qm yikes
@jamesstaggs4160
@jamesstaggs4160 Жыл бұрын
It's impressive now. Sure you've got a Corvette that will go sub 3 on a 60 run but that 911 would still be considered fast right now. It's also got the added bonus of being able to see out of the damn thing since it doesn't need the pillars to house airbags or to be thick enough to support the weight of the entire car if it ever finds itself hurtling off a cliff upside down. Thank God the government is here to protect us. Oh and yeah, 12s in the 1/4 is very, very impressive.
@blisterbrain
@blisterbrain Жыл бұрын
It's still really fast. Way faster than anyone will be driving on public roads, loaded with other, regular vehicles. Who's actually out there blasting 0-60 full-throttle out of every mini-mall parking lot and from every countless traffic light on congested business zone thoroughfares? 3.9 is too fast and beyond the capabilities of 99% of drivers, anyway. That's why today's cars are filled with computer nannies. Let's go back to slower, simpler, and cheaper cars.
@Mystery_Man84
@Mystery_Man84 Жыл бұрын
@@blisterbrain I’m guessing your the 1%?
@blisterbrain
@blisterbrain Жыл бұрын
@@Mystery_Man84 Nope, not me! I know my limits.
@billseiler4952
@billseiler4952 Жыл бұрын
Still can’t afford a 1997 Porsche
@xxk4rilsxx
@xxk4rilsxx Жыл бұрын
Squad like up
@rebelusa6585
@rebelusa6585 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to our universe. Rules of thumb, only a few selected rich people, the rest are poor people.
@earth7551
@earth7551 Жыл бұрын
Or a 1997 Toyota twin turbo supra
@jeffc7486
@jeffc7486 Жыл бұрын
Or 1997 viper gts in blue. Lol
@Mx5pro
@Mx5pro Жыл бұрын
She’s still a beauty
@StevenEveral
@StevenEveral Жыл бұрын
A clean low-mileage version of this 911 Turbo now goes for north of $350k.
@esqu1re
@esqu1re Жыл бұрын
I think higher. There's one on bringatrailer going for 526K with 4 days left and nowhere close to the reserve price. Amazing.
@CaptainTonus
@CaptainTonus Жыл бұрын
Yeah, more like $500k and beyond for a low-mileage S. Non-S can fetch north of $200k easily.
@oreally8605
@oreally8605 Жыл бұрын
I only wish Corvettes would have the same fetching price.. ( 1984 and up )
@CaptainTonus
@CaptainTonus Жыл бұрын
@@oreally8605 Haha never gonna happen, except for maybe a C7 ZR1 or the C8 Z06 in 20+ years
@punemax
@punemax Жыл бұрын
Real g’s know about need for speed on ps1
@donteadoss
@donteadoss Жыл бұрын
I was 15 in 1997 wishing badly that I could afford one, and now here I am 26 years later wishing the exact same thing regarding the exact same car. 😕
@kyoakland
@kyoakland Жыл бұрын
​@mipmipmipmipmip 😂
@pbmcgme176
@pbmcgme176 Жыл бұрын
Same exact position. All of the cars I wanted in that era are all unavailable or completely out of reach financially.
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you lower your expectations like we all have to?
@machomanalexyt5736
@machomanalexyt5736 8 ай бұрын
​@@roddydykes7053"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." -George Carlin
@BurtSampson
@BurtSampson Жыл бұрын
One of these is for sale in Florida right now for $900,000. That isn't a typo.
@GlennsCarCollection
@GlennsCarCollection Жыл бұрын
Great video. Not a Turbo S but I bought a 993 Turbo in 2011 for only $70k. One of the best investments I ever made.
@aaronschen9896
@aaronschen9896 Жыл бұрын
I remember the shock and awe when the 993TT came out. That level of performance and civility together was groundbreaking. 25 years later the performance is similar to a 4cyl cayman s.
@gregalanbell
@gregalanbell Жыл бұрын
I've got a 718 GTS 3.7 to 3.9 0to60 12.2 quarter mile @ 116. 20 years after this masterpiece was made, spoiled people say that my masterpiece 718 GTS doesn't sound like a Porsche. My last 3 Porsches have been flat 6, two air cooled 911s and an 06 Cayman S. All those cars were fast to me, and still are. I love my flat four it put almost all loud cars to shame! The steering is spot on too, something I've always expected in a Porsche. Hopefully in some years after Porsche stops making gas powered engines mine will be worth a lot more too.
@aaronschen9896
@aaronschen9896 Жыл бұрын
Wast a dig on 2.5t gts, have one myself with 3 pedals for good measure. Pretty similar to 993tt as stated which is impressive. Technology marches on and 992tt would run away from either in a straight line
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 Жыл бұрын
@@gregalanbelleasy to tell a Porsche owner from how up in arms they get at a perceived slight, with a spreadsheet ready to go at the moment’s notice
@peterjamieson2441
@peterjamieson2441 Жыл бұрын
I'm thankful Motorweek did these videos years ago
@zeblackboi
@zeblackboi Жыл бұрын
The most beautiful Porsche in my opinion.
@05gtdriver
@05gtdriver Жыл бұрын
Clean, low mileage examples are $500,000 & up.
@earth7551
@earth7551 Жыл бұрын
That's it
@dohc1067
@dohc1067 Жыл бұрын
Still beautiful after all these years 😮 and I just saw one two hours ago in black 🖤. Smooth.
@awakethemaster
@awakethemaster Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Never gets old
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 Жыл бұрын
That car still fast for today’s standards! Beautiful style that endured the test of time! And Porsche just keeps getting better and better every year!👌🥰👍
@kirk8359
@kirk8359 Жыл бұрын
I remember when base 993's could be bought all day in the used market for $30-40k, depreciated just like every other car. I waited. Missed out. I've been in therapy ever since.
@Sportiummotors
@Sportiummotors 5 ай бұрын
Just get 996 , 20k can get you decent one , buy now b4 you Miss another train lol
@Roddy_Zeh
@Roddy_Zeh Жыл бұрын
I guess people in '97 had no idea how much 993's would skyrocket in value (specially this one) 25-30 years later.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 Жыл бұрын
Some people did know, based on how few miles some have.
@gavinvalentino6002
@gavinvalentino6002 Жыл бұрын
nor did my Dad know the 959 would do $1m+ only 2 years after he was offered one for $253kUSD in a letter signed by Dr. F. Porsche and he turned it down...
@Chuffmaster654
@Chuffmaster654 Жыл бұрын
My dad had a mint base black on black 1995 993. Sold it for a new base white on blue 996. Now he drives a BMW X1 lmao.
@mirzatajic89
@mirzatajic89 10 ай бұрын
@@Chuffmaster654was he disappointed by the 996?
@Chuffmaster654
@Chuffmaster654 10 ай бұрын
@@mirzatajic89 Nah, he enjoyed it. It was still a 6 speed manual. It was newer, but man, I will never forget that aircooled sound. After the 996 he had a couple Boxters and C6 Corvettes. His financials must've dived lol.
@oreally8605
@oreally8605 Жыл бұрын
400 pounds of torque in that tiny car.. Porsche. There is no substitute.
@christianbolt5761
@christianbolt5761 Жыл бұрын
Considering this price vs what they cost now. They have gotten relatively cheaper
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
That’s $280,000 in 2023… so not really
@davidaubin3902
@davidaubin3902 Жыл бұрын
3:31 John: AND THE COLORED KEYED SWITCHES AND SPEAKER GRILLS LOOK LIKE THEY WERE PAINTED WITH A SPRAY CAN! LOL
@olegloginov2953
@olegloginov2953 Жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped when I heard the price. I won't even try to adjust that for inflation...
@guinnessharvey4476
@guinnessharvey4476 Жыл бұрын
Considering it’s a manual with no launch control, 3.9 sec to 60 is incredible
@masterchinese28
@masterchinese28 5 ай бұрын
12.3/117mph quarter mile is impressive, even today
@Benniator
@Benniator Жыл бұрын
My dream car. These go for anywhere from $650,000 to $900,000.
@aa240sx
@aa240sx Жыл бұрын
18" wheels in a 90s car, sub 4 sec 0-60 too. this had to be the top supercar of it's day.
@tagtag-connected5263
@tagtag-connected5263 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow. Turbo S back in 1997 was $154k. Adjusted for inflation $154k in todays money is close to $200k but a pristine condition just sold for $600k. 2023 Turbo S starts at $217k. Strange world
@ssjlkrillin
@ssjlkrillin Жыл бұрын
@2 Corinthians 4:7-11 No one buys a base 911 Turbo S with no options so expect that price for a 2023 example to be over $330k.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
Dodge Demon 170s are going for 300k new, so there’s that…
@373axle
@373axle Жыл бұрын
That's a ton of power and torque for such a small, light sports coupe.
@Canadian_Gamer
@Canadian_Gamer Жыл бұрын
Much nicer than the modern era Porsche.
@mia1shooter
@mia1shooter Жыл бұрын
lol wrong, are you high?
@VintageAudioTech
@VintageAudioTech Жыл бұрын
John Davis Owns Motorweek!
@o-_-ojb
@o-_-ojb Жыл бұрын
$293k+ in 2023 money for the MSRP with options shown.
@inomad
@inomad Жыл бұрын
Similar to a 911 Sport Classic today.
@MercOne
@MercOne Жыл бұрын
What a classic and collectable this car is now.
@nighthawk0077
@nighthawk0077 Жыл бұрын
Had a ride in one a few years ago lightly modified with an x-pipe on the exhaust. It's all about the carnival ride rush when (eventually) lighting up the turbo. Also love the manual gearbox with long gearing, now everything is all about beating the other guy and extracting every last millisecond.
@constructionbootgazer
@constructionbootgazer Жыл бұрын
993 Carrera 2S is my favourite modern Porsche. 😍😍
@yodawg3469
@yodawg3469 Жыл бұрын
One of my dream cars,has been since '97
@vir123456
@vir123456 7 ай бұрын
One of the best cars ever made.
@anilvirginia
@anilvirginia Жыл бұрын
If there was a supercar GOAT, this would be it.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 Жыл бұрын
Truly one of the greats of Porsche, and given that marque has more excellent performance cars than there are stars in the sky, it says a lot.
@MarkMeadows90
@MarkMeadows90 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite 911 generations.
@PatrickRob82
@PatrickRob82 Жыл бұрын
My personal choice for best looking car ever made. Its just perfect from every angle.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 2 күн бұрын
It's very close. I think 993 2S/4S without the aerokit is even nicer. No matter which generation Turbo, I'd go for without the huge spoiler. But 993 Turbo is still amazing looker.
@bb57365
@bb57365 2 ай бұрын
The pinnacle for the 911.
@GodGear
@GodGear Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful car. Hope to review it one day 😊
@Detah_
@Detah_ Жыл бұрын
The last air cooled 911. Nobody ever knew it would be the end
@davidbaron6647
@davidbaron6647 Жыл бұрын
OLDIE BUT STILL BEAUTIFUL
@fitfogey
@fitfogey Жыл бұрын
Dream car.
@antonparks9147
@antonparks9147 Жыл бұрын
That car could be one of the most famous sports cars that ever lived.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
You can't beat Porsche, and I'm a BMW guy saying this!😀
@jdsk8914
@jdsk8914 Жыл бұрын
Saw a white one in December '22. Looks fast standing still
@revelare_xvii6269
@revelare_xvii6269 Жыл бұрын
This car must’ve felt like time travel back then.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 Жыл бұрын
It's so amazingly good looking car. I'm not a 996 hater, they're great cars but design wise... WTF they were thinking?
@M14Bintang
@M14Bintang Жыл бұрын
Motorweek Legend John Davis
@rootsmanuva82
@rootsmanuva82 Жыл бұрын
These now average $476,000.... if you bought one of these new and kept it pristine, $650,000 isn't an unheard of asking price ($345,000 in 1997 dollars, a gain of $100,000 in inflation adjusted value).
@pepster85
@pepster85 Жыл бұрын
Arguably the best car ever
@CJL36
@CJL36 Жыл бұрын
There are zero cars I lust after more than this.
@JohnMachado24
@JohnMachado24 Жыл бұрын
Still would be faster than the majority of cars on the road today, amazing!
@barsaf9989
@barsaf9989 Жыл бұрын
One of these is for sale on BaT right now. It's going to over half a million.
@laszlogaspar1244
@laszlogaspar1244 Жыл бұрын
400 torque 😮
@arr0gant1
@arr0gant1 Жыл бұрын
1997: too expensive, I'll wait 25 years and get one on the used market.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 2 күн бұрын
Same here. That didn't work out very well.😆
@tangoalpha94
@tangoalpha94 Жыл бұрын
“0-60 in four seconds sweetie”
@ericbritton9346
@ericbritton9346 Жыл бұрын
My future car when I turn 50 years old. I love me an old school Porsche 911 Turbo slant nose in red or pearl white cabriolet. But I would have to change the factory seats out to Recaro seat with adjustable headrests similar to the mid 80s Gemballa Cyrrus cabriolet.
@truth6242
@truth6242 Жыл бұрын
Why they won't put this on Forza or Gran Turismo is beyond me.
@klowenstein483
@klowenstein483 Жыл бұрын
Ruf CTR2. Look it up.
@faugrad
@faugrad Ай бұрын
Still one of the best looking 911s ever made. Too bad they now command over $300k for a clean example.
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 Жыл бұрын
Crazy to think even in the mid-90s that fake carbon fiber was becoming cliché. Love John’s dig on those tacky looking coloured controls
@CDeuce152
@CDeuce152 Жыл бұрын
A classic now.😢
@2bunphettered788
@2bunphettered788 Жыл бұрын
This spec is on CarGurus for sale in Florida for $900k. 🤑💰
@chriscornelius2518
@chriscornelius2518 Жыл бұрын
What happened with Porsche to make their cars skyrocket in price. These older models gain value. It is fascinating.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 2 күн бұрын
They're so good looking. That's why. Small and compact, true sports cars.
@rich1223
@rich1223 Жыл бұрын
The widow maker!lol
@ahemgee9542
@ahemgee9542 Жыл бұрын
That was the 930 turbo not this one.
@ryansperception
@ryansperception Жыл бұрын
Why isn’t there a “S” after the TURBO on the back?
@gtboard
@gtboard Жыл бұрын
Its not spraypanted its leather clad all of it. 🙄 Otherwise great review!
@azilll
@azilll Жыл бұрын
Gosh.
@jamesstaggs4160
@jamesstaggs4160 Жыл бұрын
I'd say this is peak production 911 right here. Yeah they got faster and the new 911s basically drive themsleves but as far as "pure" 911 it doesn't get any better. Also, 424 to from an air cooled flat 6 engine and it won't break down every ten thousand miles. Ferrari never did that. To get that sort of power they needed at least 2 more cylinders, a radiator and a full engine rebuild if you looked at it the wrong way, or drove it more than once a month.
@gtboard
@gtboard Жыл бұрын
I like 997 Turbo S alot.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
While I absolutely love these, especially compared to the new ones, “Pure” would be an RS, not a Turbo.
@ScottParisi
@ScottParisi Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous vehicle. The holes in the front bumper for a license plate are awful.
@babyyoda8195
@babyyoda8195 Жыл бұрын
Was that an option in 97?
@mikeisaacs2314
@mikeisaacs2314 Жыл бұрын
Wow it was 150k in 1997 money and I never seen a detachable face radio in a factory car.
@victoryepik1950
@victoryepik1950 Жыл бұрын
What a beaut! I really love Porsches they are so nice to drive and to be in the interior even for the old one Too bad that the Porsche comunity has skyrocket the prices on these cars
@TheT-800
@TheT-800 Жыл бұрын
It's not the community's fault, they are just great cars
@kyoakland
@kyoakland Жыл бұрын
I loved this car but I ended up with a Honda Prelude
@Cheezwizzz
@Cheezwizzz Жыл бұрын
You’d need a white linen suit teamed with a sky blue shirt to be seen in a car like that
@anthonykiedis1765
@anthonykiedis1765 Жыл бұрын
This car is still faster than most sports cars 26 years later.
@MetikalMan
@MetikalMan Жыл бұрын
Best 911 ever?
@tumbleweedtommy4626
@tumbleweedtommy4626 Жыл бұрын
Love the the retro reviews! May I make a request for a retro review? I would love to see a retro review of either the 1985 Oldsmobile 98 or Buick Electra
@gavinvalentino6002
@gavinvalentino6002 Жыл бұрын
Time to change the Depend and have another Ensure for dinner.
@azilll
@azilll Жыл бұрын
@@gavinvalentino6002 Time to trade in Chinese translator for better.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 Жыл бұрын
@@azilll haha, that clearly went over your head. Made perfect sense.
@lplp7656
@lplp7656 Жыл бұрын
John Davis is more legend and G.O.A.T than the 1997 Porsche 911 Turbo S
@OnlyTheFinest125
@OnlyTheFinest125 Жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 993
@user-cj4sm8hv9y
@user-cj4sm8hv9y Жыл бұрын
A Fond Fast Farewell
@stupidvideos1449
@stupidvideos1449 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing car, but worth the price now? No. Even na models are expensive
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 Жыл бұрын
This was my favorite car......but I ended up with something else😅
@zillsburyy1
@zillsburyy1 Жыл бұрын
more retro
@mossman4665
@mossman4665 Жыл бұрын
154k is 288k in 2023….geesh!!!
@justgoofingoff
@justgoofingoff Жыл бұрын
Dream car right behind an AC Ace/Cobra...
@TypeTuber
@TypeTuber Жыл бұрын
To know what this would be worth today...
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 2 күн бұрын
550-700 K
@user-mm2bz5pf9y
@user-mm2bz5pf9y Жыл бұрын
It was fast until the GTR showed up....
@AmraphelofShinar
@AmraphelofShinar Жыл бұрын
"Wooder-cooled"
@_que
@_que Жыл бұрын
Interesting the price when new was probably the cheapest one could get this spec of car...
@2F4R4W4Y
@2F4R4W4Y Жыл бұрын
🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
@williamdavis4809
@williamdavis4809 Жыл бұрын
In 2023 you can buy a Ford Raptor with a quicker 0-60 time.
@AlexBeras
@AlexBeras Жыл бұрын
Talk about getting the details in the review inaccurate. Switches were not painted. They were actually hand wrapped in leather. Every surface of the interior that was a touch point was covered in leather.
@pmafterdark
@pmafterdark Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh he of the endless money pit.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 Жыл бұрын
That interior is horrendous, but you can't argue with that performance and driving experience.
@gtboard
@gtboard Жыл бұрын
Whats the problem?
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how crappy the interior is on a car that cost 3x as much as a house (or more).
@lordmaster5522
@lordmaster5522 Жыл бұрын
Let the rich guy take the first hit with depreciation and now you can pick one up used for less than half the price. As soon as it rolls off the showroom floor, it losses 15% in value already.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you don't know much about 911's
@ahemgee9542
@ahemgee9542 Жыл бұрын
Lol talk about clueless. 993s sell for more than new, but the 993 turbo S sells for for around three times it's brand new RRP !
@supercruiser4925
@supercruiser4925 Жыл бұрын
too small and porches interior pre 2015 were all ugly.
@azilll
@azilll Жыл бұрын
Scintillating.
@TheMathiyo
@TheMathiyo Жыл бұрын
Now a clean 993 turbo goes over 300k
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