Me and the four other Word Bearers players are totally pumped for the next video.

Looks at the levels Ah yes, 30 tyrant siege terminators it is.

In our meta we found that rad grenades work wonders against dreads. Double charge with a rad equiped squad, then krak grenades make meat from a dread. Surprised many FoTA players.

Excellent! Your old video "9 rules for list building" was one of my favourites and one of the videos I most recommended to friends getting into the heresy. Although I've got to say your rule of adding a scoring unit for every 500pts seems impossible now at 3000pts.

Not the video Heresy deserved but the video it needed. Thank you macca

Love these kind of videos! Looking forward Alpha legion!

Amazing compilation, great video as always! That Dreadnought list looks sick, kinda tingles my Iron Hands 'The Flesh is Weak'-vibe

Got about 5mins into this and realised I need to save it for future reference... really solid advice, thanks macca.

Looking forward to more of these!

So glad you're giving love to the sallies

Good video, cant wait til there are more and more tanks though.

Your videos are always good.

Thank you! edit: Also that Salamanders list is beautiful :)

loved this, more please. Plus 1 vote for a XIII legion themed list.

Very helpful for building my list. If only the Blackshields could get their rules - I would be able to enhance my play with this video as a framework.

Salamander roaster - stunning!!!!

I learnt a lot from this, I've been going about my army all wrong.

Just as a note on your NL list, Raptors and Terrors aren't scoring in HH2 terror assault, I've been filing out my Line with Infiltrating recon with shotguns. NR's are bad enough without their target being knocked down to WS4

Unfortunately neither Night Raptors nor Terror squads are scoring. Adding a librarian with the telepathy power to a Night Raptors squad is super filthy if you are feeling particularly mean

Trying to build my first salamanders army so this was a excellent vid for me,anymore salamanders list would be great

Night Lords player here, Terror Assault doesn't give line

Of course the recon squad was hard to find

Unfortunately you have to take a centurion with the legion champion consul upgrade for the salamanders covenant of fire build. Awesome video though! You are amazing!

I have gotton good use out of casta ferrum dreads with dual lascannons. Used as support snipers insta killing characters and termies. As well as popping open vehicle.

Very nice breakdown on what's good and what's the counter to popular hard to beat set ups

Great video. Could you do a video on how to counter some of the strongest lists that people might run into like you did with the FotA pounder? Stuff like the IF Stone Gauntlet.

Damn. Good video this is what we needed !!!! No one else breaks it down like this well done

DG please! Even though you mocked my paint scheme in that Terrain vid you just dropped lolol!

Great tips all round. Particularly felt the pain when covering nightlords I’m wanting something different with my word bearers with heavy assault infantry, destroyers, recons ect legion. So yeah please GW more troops less tanks please GW lol 😅

Really enjoyed the vid, great format and explanation of how the units work. Really liked your intital balanced/starter army as a foundational approach to building an army. From a personal viewpoint (Word Bearers PoV), I have no idea how 'balanced' stands up to any of those specialist/optimum lists you mentioned. Are those type of speciliast/optimum lists common within the meta?

I'd love to see what you think of the Aus30k Liber Centura units. Very professional done fan made stuff.

Make the best possible TS list, please! Miss that ditch of yours… ;)

I know next vid will probably be traitor focused, but i'd love to see your take on the Sagyar Mazan force you showed on the channel some time ago, but in HH 2.0. Now we have the Sagyar Mazan RoW, but Jetbikes have been, well shafted. But as i stated i'd love to see your try on this fore you once built

Hey Mr Circle, please do a drop pot heavy list next time, I'd love to have a reason to buy the Kharybdis Assault Claw and multiple drop pods in my World Eaters list since I think drop pods are very world eater-ish

If you are also playing with legacy units, you should consider using Castra Ferrum Dreadnoughts as a shooting platform instead of contemptors. Twin lascannon plus helical targeting array is basically the same points as basic contemptor.

Hey Macca, I know you mentioned this on the preview vid, but I think you made a mistake with the raptors and terror assault being scoring. P197, Liber Hereticus only says they're able to be taken as troops, but there's no mention of them getting line-sub type

Thank you for the video. I would like to ask how you would build a Bitter Duty/Hatred (Traitors) Company of Bitter Iron focused Iron Hands force?

Good timing! Just got home from the HH games at LVO..😂

Thanks for the content Macca! Questions, why do you say objectives aren't as important this edition? What's changed?

Any thoughts on combi- disintegrators for apothecaries? Seems like it could be a cheeky way to spend a few extra points to have a solid chance of vaporizing a random terminator wanting to charge a tac squad once per game.

Could you share that paint chart of all the units! Cheers

Bit of side note from the main vid but how is your play testing of your D10 system going?

So aside from the dreadnoughts ans Sabres the daek angel list is all melee for or less?

@Theoutercircle Im trying to run a destroyer themed army, what can i do to achieve this list thanks ?

Are u suggesting 4 apothecary? Or 2 ? When u show the image of them on ea army set up

Night Raptors and Terror are not scoring

How many points is that Salamander list?

I'm going to build Alpha Legion, my base units are that of the HH1 Betrayal at Calth box. What would you advise as a next purchase to cement the force. Current units. x5 Cataphracti (either L Claws or heavy flamer, have parts to kitbash assault cannons) x30 MK4 Tactical marines x1 Cataphracti Captain with chainfist and stormbolter, melta combi. x1 MK4 captain with maul and plasma pistol x1 Rhino x1 Contemptor Dreadnought Primarch Alpharius.

sad times... night raptors and terror squads don't score....

I'd be interested to hear how many games of 2.0 you've played -? Not that you aren't presenting some good tips here, but I'm curious if this is advice gleaned from playing these lists or are these internet consensus lists?

I wonder how FotA will get balanced. It is clearly almost as busted as UM units and IF rules. I think they should do ALL of the following: - Increase all dreadnaught point costs. - Lower dreadnaught M, BS, T, I and W values. Doritos can still be BS 5 though. - Make rules like Sunder and Exo-Shock work against them in some fashion. - Create a penalty condition for this RoW similar to DA conditions that give VP to the enemy if something is not achieved.

Step 1) Start a new legion if you play IF or UM to help balance the meta in your area.* Step 2) Do not play TS unless you like Hard Mode. Step 3) ??? Step 4) Profit! * Also, they are the worst Mary Sues in the setting.

Ec and ts would be helpful

Why recon over scout squad? I’m new to this, but isn’t the only difference armor between the two?

How many points is that Salamanders list? Very similar to what I am building right now.

Iron warriors please. I'm just getting into the hobby and want to build a Iron warriors army so I'd like all the advice I can get.

Hey macca do you you think you could do a list build for an IF army centred around the templar assault RoW? My army is made around it, but I cant find many other lists to compare it to and I would love to get your take on it! I can also post my list if you would like to read it.

AL next time, pls)

Tbh, I'll always say what I say about 40k marines as well. Take what you think looks cool or is cool. Balance your list between busted and fun. Not everyone enjoys flat out winning, and no one enjoys flat out loosing

Pls do alpha legion and word bearers!

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Blood angels would be an easy one; just don't play the legion!

Nice one Macca! Would love to see you run through what you think might be the strongest couple of lists for each of the Legions. Maybe one obvious one and then one lowkey underrated list that's slept on?

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For the Legion, the Emperor and the Algorithm.... Misses a bit of a punch. Sorry Macca

Think you've developed some sort of cough there mate you ok? 😉 Edit: Where's ep 2 with Alpha Legion?

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what points level are you playing at? Your Salamanders list is so wrong. With that rite of war you MUST take a centurion with the champion upgrade. So Cata. praetor, champion, 10 flamer marines, your 3 units of pyroclasts with transports, your unit of hammer+shield Firedrakes with transport comes to 2985 points, with no upgrades to the transports or any nonbasic gear on any characters. your list, still missing the required champion and any upgrades to anything, comes to 3465 points. Congrats, you get to play with flamer templates and lose against everything. what you're smelling isn't cheese, its garbage.

The list for the Night Lords might not work since Terror Squads and Night Raptors don’t get Line 🥲