Episode 3/6 Amongst the most appealing objects in the British Museum is a 12th century chess set.
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@molecatcher3383 Жыл бұрын
The Island of Lewis was ruled by Norway until 1266, when it was transferred to Scotland. So finding 12th century chess pieces there that had come from Norway is maybe not so surprising.
@mairianncullen87532 ай бұрын
Well said. Thinking of Lewis as 'remote' depends on where one is based.
@teukel11577 ай бұрын
Fascinating. Clearly the hand to cheek queen was explained by the custom of the times and how Mary was portrayed. People love a mystery at the expense of common sense and understanding. Just look at politics. Also, in part one, professor says the farmer probably felt fear when first discovered in the sand. Complete conjecture. My money says professor is the scaredy cat not the toiling farmer. All in all, great understanding and insights.
@Athlynne2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I've been fascinated by the Lewis chessmen since I first heard of them. I wish we knew more about them!
@capnrob97 Жыл бұрын
I have a replica set coming in the mail today. Amazing a game so old is still played today. I think I read somewhere there are more chess books published than any other subject.
@withlovefromrussia Жыл бұрын
Lucky you. I can't afford them, yet. How is it playing with them?
@pyewackett55 жыл бұрын
Great ! Have always loved the Lewis Chessmen. Enjoyed every minute. Thanks
@blipblip888 жыл бұрын
Fun and informative little documentary. I enjoyed the theories about why they were hidden and why the queen was posed as she was.
@martinstent53394 жыл бұрын
The queen obviously has toothache. That’s why she is holding her cheek. Her medicine is in the horn in her other hand. Probably ground up cloves.
@cyndifoore77432 жыл бұрын
I love these pieces, I bought a replica set for my son when I visited the British Museum.
@mickfadang7 жыл бұрын
very informative. but for so much research, why can't you get the BOARD sitting in the right position!!
@danchitwood67834 жыл бұрын
"So what did you do today?" "Watched a long article about a chess set. Just couldn't put it down."
@atlerthedark36397 жыл бұрын
The berserkers give me chills
@eedwardgrey24 жыл бұрын
6:22 glad to know table flipping isn't new
@DaneStolthed8 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary, I would love to own a replica set of the Lewis Chessmen.
I made my own using moulds of 2 different sets, and made my own moulds for a third set of the pieces in the Scottish Museum, after buying replicas. Also made the similar Leipzig set. There are also two modern sets influenced by the Lewis pieces: Dragon Hunt and Gothic Lewis. Made my own sets of those too.
@DaneStolthed7 жыл бұрын
jezz2k I don't suppose you have a web site?
@jezz2k7 жыл бұрын
DaneStolthed No sorry, I don't, although I did upload my chess variant to this site: www.chessvariants.com/multiplayer.dir/chesskingdom.html Imagine playing a large game like that with 4 unique Lewis and Lewis-style sets. Well thats my plan anyway. Haven't made the board yet!
@stephenNI6 жыл бұрын
jezz2k did you use resin and how did you age them? I was thinking of doing the same
@hathor19858 жыл бұрын
The Lewis Chessmen have a special aura around them,a kind of magic,waiting to be activated when the original chess board will be found, if ever......
@theRhinsRanger7 жыл бұрын
HATHOR - the board was found, the squares of metal and ivory had been dismantled and built into a chastity belt I think you call it, basically it was armoured pants to stop females wandering. Apparently the chess player had some serious self esteem and trust issues
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
@@theRhinsRanger bollocks
@llewelynshingler21733 жыл бұрын
@@Philrc For starters, the belts where to ward off male advances. For a continuation, this is a dubious claim
@Philrc3 жыл бұрын
@@llewelynshingler2173I know what a chastity belt is pal and this claim (not by me) is driveling nonsense which is why i wrote "bollocks" 2 years ago, you might have realised... I've no idea why you are commenting to me! comment to the idiot who said the board was made into a chastity belt. I certainly never claimed any such crap. No belt was found. the poor idiot probably read that along with the chess pieces they found a single belt *buckle* . (not a chastity belt) It looks like you foolishly believe in the existence of chastity belts as well; I feel sorry for you. now go away
@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands4 ай бұрын
Actually one of the pawn sets display the Anglo-Saxon Gar (G) rune, meaning spear, which suggests the pawns were seen as the arms of the other pieces...
@earlspencer78635 жыл бұрын
9:45 love the relaxing music
@sssfff6 ай бұрын
Any chess players will tell you the Queen is thinking hard about the next move, hence the hand.
@silverbirch4444art10 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL! I love this :)
@CrazyWatcher6703 жыл бұрын
0:29 In Eastern chess Bishop was Camel. Bishops did not replaced Elephants, rooks replaced elephants.
@sssfff6 ай бұрын
In Chinese Chess the Bishops became "Cannons" (sounds like "Pow"), which captures by jumping over a piece, vertically or horizontally. The Prime ministers and Sentries next to the King in Chinese Chess go diagonally, like the Bishops, but cannot cross the "river" (the middle boundary between the 2 camps. No Queens in Chinese Chess.
@michaellilly40510 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. NIce details. It's unfortunate that the boards are not properly set up. But I forgive them. Film makers routinely fail to put the white square to the lower right of the player, and usually fail to put the queens on their own color.
@Bert-xi1dn7 жыл бұрын
Michael Lilly If the board is placed erroneously with a white square in the lower left corner the queen has her proper place on the square she was put. Still a silly mistake to make in a professional production. Enjoyed watching it though.
@c.e.schlink99337 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true, purist, obsessive Chess player!
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
@@Bert-xi1dn no she should be 5th from the right, not 4th
@jpdemer5 Жыл бұрын
If by "routinely", you mean 1/2 of the time - although I think that the occasional director will be a chess player, which should shift the odds slightly.
@jayr77706 жыл бұрын
Fantastic pieces and the history/ mystery surrounding them is very interesting, but can't believe that they can't set a chess board the right way round for a documentary!
@kenc22575 жыл бұрын
Well, this isn't a program about chess, per se (obviously); it's specifically about the Lewis Chessmen. I have no interest in chess, but find these chess pieces fascinating (watched several "documentary" programs, and read about the pieces, re-watched the "Harry Potter" chess battle, etc.).
@lestermiller27174 жыл бұрын
I used to have two ivory figures from a chess set but mine where made in the 1700 period still very kool looking.
@madhatter67906 жыл бұрын
anybody get any Alice through the looking glass vibes from the very idea of the set? The pieces were found on the isle of Lewis, the name Charles Ludwig Dodgson used as a pen name when writing his Alice stories, one story included Alice traversing a huge chessboard land to become a queen. The pieces were made of walrus ivory, the walrus being a character from the poem the walrus and the carpenter which appeared in Alice through the looking glass. It's odd how these things work out right?
@Janet52young3 жыл бұрын
Wow. You really sent my husband and me down a rabbit hole. I’m a huge fan of Chad and Jeremy. Sadly Chad Stuart died December 2021. They recorded an album “Of Cabbages and Kings” in 1967. It begins with “The Time has come, the Walrus said, to talk of many things...” The cover is very psychedelic. The back cover is a chess board. I’ve had this album since 1967 and never connected to the Lewis chessmen, which were discovered the same year Charles Dodgson was born. 😊
@danilofubelli7992 жыл бұрын
1:10 I can't believe they set the board up wrong. All that knowledge and they fumble with the basics.
@hugmyster10 жыл бұрын
I loved the show and have always loved Noggin the Nog, but one more thing also got me, and gets me still... What is the beautiful haunting piano piece they keep playing throughout, including at the end of the episode? I've been looking for it ever since!
@geopat42987 жыл бұрын
It's Clearwaters by James S. Levine
@magik85663 жыл бұрын
If you are going to do a documentary on chessmen, at least position the board with the white square bottom right and the Queen on its own colour (at 1:23, 14:12 etc).
@betty50646 жыл бұрын
Noggin the Nog is a series of books.
@s.mcchristy97042 жыл бұрын
A couple questions: Was Norway a Roman Catholic country at the time these Bishop pieces were made? If not then what? British Isles were Catholic... Then, where are the contrasting colored pieces? You must have contrasting tones otherwise the confusion would make them unplayable...
@Athlynne2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the ones that were stained red were intentionally done so! Good question, I was wondering this myself. Without different colors, you'd have to memorize the details of your own queen, your own pawns, etc.
@beaulieuonnp5933 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were made for sailors? They are very sturdy, for 'man's hands'. I have a set at home that my dad made us and I think they are easy to see as well, rather than the small chess sets we see today, we can actually see their faces from a distance. I think they are quite practical. I prefer using my Lewis chess set than modern chess sets. Also there is a woman in the set so 'it is not just chess men'. My chess set looks a bit different so some of the replicas are not really that great #uk
@landrovervideos11827 ай бұрын
My great grandad used to tell us that his ancestors ordered 4 sets of chess paid for them but were never delivered, do I have a claim? and I’m Scottish
@gagoole1234 жыл бұрын
Rook comes from Persian word rokh ( رخ ) which means tower.
@debhurd88982 жыл бұрын
Is that Irving Finkel talking about the game and the board? It sounds like my fav Dr. Finkel, but alot younger.
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
The only mystery about these is why such an obviously high quality chess set was taken to, and buried, on the island of lewis? How , why, did they end up there?
@mairianncullen87532 ай бұрын
Lewis was ruled by Norway in those days - from 9th century into the 13th century. It is not a surprising place to find them, to my mind.
@SuperSnugglemonster6 жыл бұрын
The least expensive replica Lewis chess set in British Museum gift shop is £199, which is too pricey.
@theRhinsRanger7 жыл бұрын
Good Scottish documentary lol........"they are called Prawns"
@boredwarlock52163 жыл бұрын
Irving Finkle is the greatest
@debhurd88982 жыл бұрын
I.love.him. I wish he was my husband.😊
@MrEolicus Жыл бұрын
1:16 Wrong... the chess board is in the wrong position, it should be rotated ninety degrees. And the white King goes into a black square, the white Queen goes into a white square. This documentary is about the most famous chess set in the world, and yet whoever did it, did not even bother to understand how the chess pieces are set on the chessboard... makes me wonder with what care the rest of the information was collected...
@tomaszbazant845510 жыл бұрын
Excelent video. Michael, firstly when i wathcedthis documentary I noticed a same thing, but notice that both of sets of pieces are whole white, well where should be put a king and a queen of each army? For example in 7:30 or so. I think that they put pieces right.
@michaellilly4059 жыл бұрын
I see what you are saying. Maybe those are the dark pieces. But they still put the dark square in the lower right hand corner for each player, so that makes it impossible to set up properly. The board must be oriented with a light square in the lower right.
@jezz2k7 жыл бұрын
One side was painted in either betroot or red wine, but after hundreds of years, the colour has unfortunately faded.
@fredygump55786 жыл бұрын
How old is this? Irving Finkle looks 20-30 years younger than he does now!
@KougajiCalling5 жыл бұрын
fredy gump It's from 2006. So... ATM, it's 12 years old.
@ek87104 жыл бұрын
I think this is from 2003
@debhurd88982 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. I thought it wasn't him there for a few minutes, but his lovely sounding voice gave him away. He looks alot younger here.
@theallseeingmaster5 жыл бұрын
I know why the Queen looks worried, she IS worried. On either side of her, in the back row, are all of her male children and her husband, the King, beside her; they are in imminent danger of death. What mother or wife wouldn't worry? What else was there to do for spare royal male offspring during the middle ages? They went into the church(bishops) the professional military (knights) or they ran their fathers estates (rooks) and kept the peasants in line and the economy moving. That's how I always looked at the back row, one big family fighting for dominance over another; real dog eat dog stuff but for thinking people.
@jeffk17225 жыл бұрын
This is a nice documentary, but the orientation of the board (not the pieces) is... 90 degrees wrong. Oh well, same game either way.
@sanjanewmoonlife Жыл бұрын
I mostly always win in this game when I'm playing 🌏❤️💕🌍🙏💃💃😇🆗☺️
@n3mn646 жыл бұрын
they were also the pieces harry potter played in the dining hall of hogwarts
@KougajiCalling5 жыл бұрын
Francis Capada That was Irving Finkles's personal set of replicas! (The old man with the away beard)
@weeblelehmann4663 жыл бұрын
Wait, so Harry Potter's chess set "appears" in the past and we're still burning calories on this mystery? (Face slap). Dear Science, sometimes the answer is "Magic"
@lucaswilliams38065 жыл бұрын
I had one of these sets when I was growing up and they're not as resistant to breaking as was made out
@debhurd88982 жыл бұрын
Made from walrus ivory??
@andrewlankford96346 жыл бұрын
The Queen always has a toothache. If rooks are supposed to represent chariots instead of castles, those chariots prolly didn't take corners very well.
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
Not Staunton design though, so you couldn't use them in a competition :)
@noahcrow89825 жыл бұрын
Staunton sucks anyways.
@juratek98986 жыл бұрын
well done. 78 pieces found in Scotland and only 11 are left in Scottish Nat. Museum. The rest are in London. WHY?! why not opposite?!
@LuisRamos-ou8zb5 жыл бұрын
Simple. Because the Scottish Museum did NOT want to pay for them and the English Museum DID PAY! As always, who has the LOOT has the GOOD!
@earlspencer78635 жыл бұрын
More ppl will see them in London that's really what ultimately counts
@kenc22575 жыл бұрын
The Scottish Museum had a fundraising drive to purchase the pieces--that effort didn't fare well (didn't raise enough funds)...
@jaybe29085 жыл бұрын
Well they were made in Norway why not send them back there! or they come from a walrus why not give them back to a walrus family!
@hrvojenimac80762 жыл бұрын
First ch. Made in india 4 pleyer
@agustasister56246 жыл бұрын
I perfer my north and south set...
@aaronjaben79136 жыл бұрын
with Sherman's "inevitable bow tie"??
@theRhinsRanger7 жыл бұрын
Brought back by early crusaders?
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
erm...no they are Scandinavian, didn't you listen?
@WillN2Go15 жыл бұрын
3:00 "We cannot take the language of our own gestures to be the one prevailing then." This is not a supportable statement. Paul Ekman has demonstrated that human facial expressions are universal. The hand gesture of the Queen may have a specific ancient context, or signal, that we may not be aware of. Facial expressions are timeless. The bug eyed look of the Lewis Chessmen is interpretable by us today. It looks worried, possibly overbearing, intense. I'm not sure our seeing it as humorous means it was intended as humorous a thousand years ago. Think of the laugh that might result from seeing a hundred year old photo of farmer standing upright, stiff and serious for a portrait. It may be a convention of the period Instead of the modern 'selfie' 'look at me I'm smiling, I am likable!" A hundred years ago you would simply stand up straight put on a serious expression and wait for the picture to be exposed. So this may be an expression of 'full attention,' which certainly applies to the game of chess. Consider the queen standing next to the king. That king could be placed along side Holbein's portrait of Henry VIII, substantial, in charge. The queen in contrast to the king does appear (to me) as concerned, or worried. the expression of her eyes is not that dissimilar to eyes of the 'Berserker' rooks, whose display of teeth biting their shield.
@Neruomir2 ай бұрын
Norway and to some extent Denmark where infamous for using armed war clerics/bishops leading large retinues of soldiers something forbidden in most christian lands to they point of being threatened by excommunication by the pope. If they where indeed carved there it would make sense that they are portryed on the battlefield. They might have been Christian in name by 1200 but still plenty of Norse warrior ethos and traditions left that not even the local clergy want to be left out of a good scrap. XD
@roniquebreauxjordan13023 жыл бұрын
Allegorical....#WestMeetsEast
@michaelpearson127210 ай бұрын
I don't believe the nonsense about the soldiers being cannon fodder. The soldiers where the most important they where there to protect the castle and all it's residenc king queen bishops and fight alongside the knights and the tombstones represent fighting to death. And nothing to do with cannon fodder for God's sake.
@hrvojenimac80762 жыл бұрын
3d game
@kalebgullan4157 Жыл бұрын
Chess men, even the queen is a man. Don’t tell me that’s a woman’s face
@Georgexb7 жыл бұрын
at 7:30 the queen is on the wrong sqaure
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
@1978ajax the board IS the wrong way round.
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
@1978ajax I do know. see 4:15 There should be a white square on your right from either side of the board. . it's the wrong way round.
@LouisPhung9995 жыл бұрын
Press like if Harry Potter is the reason you're interested in these chessmen.
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
4:15 They have the board the wrong way round! That's a bit off for an educated documentary!
@felipeoliveiramusic5 жыл бұрын
The queen just has a toothache. Period.
@RatzoMcFatso5 жыл бұрын
What numbskull down votes this?
@bastardtubeuser6 жыл бұрын
islamic chess lol ? like the religion invented it ? i dont get that naming at all, is this from the BBC i guess ?
@macnutz42066 жыл бұрын
The game was different in the Islamic world, it had different pieces and different rules of play. No bishops and no queen. they use the terms to distinguish between the two different traditions. It appears to have traveled from the Islamic world to the west. Islamic pieces were often non representational. No humans could be depicted, especially not faces, for religious reasons. So, it is perfectly valid to make references to Islamic chess sets.
@scorpioninpink5 жыл бұрын
It actually originated in the Indian Subcontinent.
@Philrc5 жыл бұрын
you aren't listening carefully, it's what happens when prejudice interferes with comprehension