I wish someone would put a 2.5L supercharged flat-6 or V6 in a car. Good economy, fair reliability if produced by Toyota or Subaru, and some potential for power. I have subscribed to your channel and view your videos daily. Keep up the great work!

The Wilderness Crosstrek is already available for pre-order in America.

@@wanglee21 Great point 😅 But I meant to say that it should be in a package like the BAC Mono with a 6-speed manual, a reliable, cheap 2-seat fun car.

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Subaru corporate motto?

They tried nothing and they're out of ideas.

@@jswizzlestick haha. Well it should be

Welcome to Subaru. Where dreams come true.

No competition = laziness

That, but a lot of it has to do with emissions standards. Basically if you want anything cool or fun to work on, you don’t buy anything past 2012 lol

Ever since they became liberal it’s been down hill

It's not profitable to make fun car for Japanese manufacture. Japan's domestic market have very little demand for expensive or sport car. Mitsubishi without large fund like Subaru have quit making unprofitable cars long ago. 182ps is more than enough but 2.5 in unnecessary and fuel economy is always bad in Subaru, like they haven't update their engine for decades.

Man seriously

Yeah, the mythology around the 2.5RS badge is weird. I had an '04 "2.5RS." You could tell someone you had a 2004 Impreza 2.5RS and they'd go "Oh, cool!" so long as they didn't know that EVERY 2004 Impreza was a "2.5RS." Now, I really liked that car and thought it was pretty fun to drive, but the driving experience was no sexier than any Outback Sport or Impreza 2.5i in later years. Subaru itself didn't really hold that badge in super high regard 20 years ago, since they were slapping it on every NA base model. Why should we?

Can’t believe anyone thought this would be anything different.

@@ryanblack9308 exactly. And the only reason the GC8 2.5RS is considered “special” is because it’s a great chassis to WRX or STi swap, which essentially means the original motor/drivetrain was crap, and needs to be changed to be something better. Even when compared to its competition back in the day, it was mid to back of the pack. We had the Eclipse GS-T/GSX, Integra GSR/Type R, Civic Si, Mazda MX-6, and a bunch of others. The Subaru may have looked the part, but wasn’t anything that wowed the market… and the valve cover gasket jokes stem from the engine in that car.

This is why i quite this channel a long time ago. They just play up the vids for the preconceptions of their teenage audiences; it's not about whether or not the car is good in it's own right for its intended purpose.

The 90s 2.5rs was commonly swapped with a wrx motor, hence the reputation. Additionally, even in stock form, it was extremely light for an AWD car (believe they were under 3000 lbs at one point). Not a fast car, but very fun to drive.

The speedometer goes way too high on this thing 🤣

@Brian_Eugene_Leecvt’s are universally awful and make everything miserable. They’re the biggest waste of R&D that auto manufacturers have ever done. Nothing but problems, more expensive and worse to drive.

@Brian_Eugene_Leecvt is for boring casuals

Toyota has eCVT mostly and that is a different setup and way more reliable than regular cvts.. and new gen toyotas will be switching to automatics even on hybrids.

@@Brian_Eugene_Lee Yes most people who don't know what a CVT have never noticed the difference of AMT in Subaru CVT.

Idk if the brz motor could handle the awd without being a bit more unreliable

If you need to accelerate quickly buy a plane ticket to Japan and ride the Shinkansen. Or even ride BART in northern California up Highway 24, passing every car.

BRZ engine is premium fuel only.

Yeah honestly a nice regular 6 speed auto would have been just fine

@@sleveille44we will never get another A960E ever again(unless suabru for some reason decides to dump the cvt they have been pumping money into for decades)

Subaru dropped the ball should have had an 6 speed manual transmission........

It's really funny watching vids of people trying to justify the cvt in the sporty subarus like this and the new wrx.

Yeah, I love the CVT too. No unnecessary fake shifting, just pure engine sound, running at it's most powerful and efficient rpm for speeeeeed!

​@@crow_2k11beatsbydre8 WRX exist

@@HyperVanilo WRX has terrible gas consumption either manual or CVT. Imprezza would have been hot sell with a manual.......

Thank you

Except that the 2024 RS’ 0-60 times are comparable, if not quicker, than those older RS’. Go take a look at the Motor Week road test of the older RS’….0-60 times are anywhere from 7.8 to 8.2 seconds. Meanwhile, Redline Review was able to get the 2024 to go from 0-60 in about 7.5 seconds in two separate runs.

Give it knobbier tires and more plastic exterior trim, you are set

You should be proud of yourself. Now go off to a nice vacation with all the money saved.

I got a 2023 base Impreza with 9 miles for a STEAL.

​@@RYTF5that's what I did on a fully loaded 2016 altima in 2017. Brand new l and paid 23k from 33500 lol

@@occckid123 I paid like $22k for the brand new Impreza. In this day and age I'll take it.

@@RYTF5 that's good a sentra starts at that price but a civic cost like 28k lmfao for a base model.

As an owner of a 2020 Impreza w/manual I 100% agree with you. 150hp is not fast, and "upgrading" to 180hp is a joke. 220 would feel great in this car tho. And I plan to swap the engine for the BRZ someday after the warranty expires (and maybe throw in the STI transmission too) and make it a proper RS

Probably because Subarus 2.4 in the brz shares components with Toyota and likely can’t use it. Also a high revving 2.4l N/A engine in this configuration would likely be identical to cost to the wrx. Honestly wish that Subaru offered this 2.5 with a manual from outta the wrx and that would be good enough. Subaru doesn’t need to make the rs a performance vehicle because they will sell you a wrx if you want more power

We can blame the war on oil. Look at Dodge building no more V8’s…..

@@ConfirmedPatriot my tuned 1.8 VW makes 250hp to the wheels…. The war on oil IS NOT THE PROBLEM 😂😂 They just don’t give a shit about the performance aspect of their image which is just silly and sad because honestly other than that Subarus don’t really have very many redeemable qualities.

And it's still a 2.5 but more power and efficiency and weighs alot more because of safety. What wrong? It's a cheap car. Yes they could add a quicker mother and pass the cost downy to you but then not many people would want to pay 35k for this car.

Complacency. It's what makes a subaru a subaru™

@@ConfirmedPatriot Toyota gets 261hp from a 1.6 3-cylinder it is absolutely not a war on oil issue it's a lazy engineer issue.

This channel used to be about cars for the average person but it isn't anymore. Anytime they "review" an average car it's full of complaining that it's not a 100k+ car they're in.

Yea but the problem is that CVTs don't last long.

@@jonlosito2004see a lot of them for sale in Canada with over 300k kms on them all original which is better than I can say about a lot of other vehicles

Is the WRX available in Europe?

@@tonyzhu403 Nope, it's not. We only had the wrx sti previous gen, but... not the new one, at all. In fact, we still have the prev gen crosstrek on sale, we still have the pre-facelift outback on sale. No Legacy for years... Though we have a thing called e-boxer (a mild hybrid).

Yeah, Europe is 2 years behind NA models and stuff, it's same year but models are older. I feel like Subaru will come back in a few years since CEO changed, but who knows.

@@cridery1055 Let's see. I wish to see Subaru on par with other Japanese brands. Yes their AWD is one of the best, but everything else isss... I don't know, grey zone to me.

@@Tibchy91 That's unfortunate. I know Oceania got a WRX Wagon, which is pretty cool. Although CVT only, which is dumb. Europe is big on Diesel, and I don't think Subaru is competing in that space at all. And it doesn't snow that much in the majority of Europe, so the AWD seems to be a bit of a waste. I would go with the Mazda 6 Wagon if I was living in Europe. Love to have a wagon, too bad they aren't popular or available in Canada.

CVTs can suk balls

They did it because they're implying that the powertrain is a joke.

Subaru is clowning on us

An Elantra GT was slower than a 2.5L Crosstrek though.

@@jasonmoyer You're correct. .4 of a second slower from 0 to 60. In 2018 the Crosstrek did not have a 2.5. In 2018 the claims were 9.1 seconds for 0 to 60, however, some car reviewers claimed it was closer to ten seconds. Both of these cars are slow. my point is, the Crosstrek feels slow.

Brz motor + rwd = awesome hot hatch

Seriously! Imagine a WRX from the factory with a DCT. That would sell faster than they could make them. Wtf is Subaru doing over there? Why can Hyundai pull off a good DCT but Subaru can't?

They're too busy in bed with toyota for that sweet prius battery tech.

​@@ericfromengWRX CVT holds it at the max efficient rpm with no fake shifts, subaru makes good peformance CVTS

@@growingup4487 The problem is, no one wants a "performance (nearly 9 second 0-60 btw)" CVT. It's like buying a pair of work boots for your running hobby. This transmission isn't even good, efficiency wise. You get better efficiency out of manual Subarus vs their autos. The CVT just doesn't make sense, unless a smooth, shiftless driving experience is your goal.

@@ericfromeng WRX with a ~9 second 0-60 is a wild exaggeration.

You are comparing a Forester XT to the Impreza RS? You have almost 70 horsepower more than the Impreza RS....that's like comparing an orange to an apple. At least the Impreza is a safer car.

White wheel life!

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Yeah and they would sell like 17 of them

It would not.

Then buy it. Every saying manual this then buy one, no one buys it

Everyone wants one but no one buys them when they are available. Look at the number of manual Impreza/Crosstrek sold for the previous gen. You all want manuals but no one buys them. 😂

Turbo or no thanks.

Manufacturers love to make cars nobody buys and then use that data to reinforce their internal ideas ☹

@@thebarkingmousethe last RS was also NA

I wonder if anyone would care about a small performance bump vs an appearance package. Maybe a few, but I don't think anyone is really looking for an Impreza with somewhat sharper handling and a tad faster. Still, dozens of us would like it...

@@deansmits006 it's more the fact that the 2.5 RS is supposed be and was in the past the more performance oriented N/A Impreza, not quite WRX levels of performance but still performance oriented. The new 2.5 RS barely even got a 20hp bump in power from the GD 2.5 RS so it's understandable that N/A Impreza enthusiasts would be a little disappointed in what Subaru is giving us with the new Generation 2.5 RS model the power numbers would be as disappointing if they gave it a little more driving engagement by offering it with a manual option and an actual hand brake instead of an electric parking brake.also sharper handling is always better but if the RS gets decent aftermarket support any enthusiast that buys one will make it happen, with thicker sway bars and end links and other upgraded suspension components. I also mentioned stiffer drivetrain mount pitch stop,engine mount,etc. those don't really effect handling they reduce drivetrain loss so more power gets to the wheels and also increases throttle response. Just my opinion though. Obviously some people will still buy it. Subaru just didn't need to slap the RS badge on it they could have just sold it as a regular Impreza with the FB25 in it and the offered the SPT as the performance package instead of watering down the RS pedigree us rally fans know and love. Again just my opinion

Imprezas are very safe cars.

Subaru has been very reluctant using the FA20D or even the FA24D on any of their cars. For some reason, they do not want to use direct & port injection in their line up (D-4S) and only use their in-house direct injection engines. Sadly it is a misstep to not offer this in a manual but I assume they expected sales numbers to be low and did not want to spend money on a manual spec noone would buy.

The FA24 engines on GR86 and BRZ are having multiple reports about oil sealant issues where it could melt and block the oil squirting process causing premature oil starving, rendering the engines inoperable

@@baoquoc3710 The FA24 issues are NOT about port injection and more about design flaws with the oil lubrication system. Some evidence that leads to this conclusion is FA20 (both DIT and D) has significant oil pressure drop issues HOWEVER not to the same degree as the FA24. FA24 issues are less about the excess RTV sealant stuck in the oil strainer (manufacturing issue) and inherent design flaws in the oil lubrication system. Seeing how ONLY right hand turns causes significant oil pressure drop (below nominal 60 psi value). One (1) youtube video who did some testing suggest the oil pickup tube configuration, placed closer to the passenger side, is causing this issue. When taking right hand turns, the oil sloshes away from the pick up tube hence oil starvation. So no, port injection is the cause of oil starvation. Further research and testing is required to confirm the reasoning behind these oil pressure losses.

So it would cost the same as a wrx? Like seriously the 2.4l is an expensive engine just put a manual in this and watch people buy it. MT got 0-60 in 7.4 seconds which puts it around the same as a civic turbo or a n/a Mazda 3 awd. So honestly it’s literally a civic or Mazda 3 competitor. The old rs were slow and weren’t anything special so why does everyone expect this to be a WRX but without a turbo?

They don't even care about car enthusiasts anymore. That's what happened :((

Would've so bought a turbo Impreza hatch. The new WRX looks like a bargain basement Civic from 2015.

They say there are no bad cars, just bad prices.

Good luck finding a new Prius without major markups

With 400 hp 😢

So…a WRX? They already make that

It would’ve just remained a dinosaur, an extinct species 😂

@@DylanJT99a detuned 225 hp and 225ft lb of torque with the hatchback would be nice. Better than this completely travesty of the rs model.

RS always has been na. They should put 6spd manual and fa24d.

My 1997 Legacy 2.5GT had 165hp and 165torque in freaken 1997!! What happened to Subaru??

That's a bit unfair. BRZ and WRX still exist. Subarus have great overlanders also.

Been buying new cars since early 2000s. Subarus were never fun to drive. (WRX/STI/BRZ being the exception) Even WRX going back to those days drove poorly with lots of power. Today Subaru has one of the most fun cars on the road - BRZ. Impreza RS is a base Corolla competitor in my mind.

@@gs98999 Legacies are also super fun to drive, mine is a 1998 B4 RSK 280hp from the factory. Cheap AF, amazing chassis and underrated.

So how many more years will you wait until you pull the trigger?

Gardening is life

Like the Hondas/Acura and Mazdas with their 'sporty' cars... augh eugh

@@caliberaid8527 Love those new Sport spec Honda Civics that do 0 - 60 in... *checks notes* ... uh... 9.2 seconds.

Just wait til u see the new MR2

To be fair, carmakers have been in the business of disappointment for a long time. RX-8, NSX, CR-Z, Caliber SRT-4, Chevy SSR, Mk3 GTI, previous gen 3-series, Blazer, NC Miata, 2nd gen Mazda6, Nissan as a whole from late 90's to today, Eclipse...

Because enthusiasts don't buy cars. Next question.

Would you buy it again? Between this and a CX - 5

Thanks for the sub!

This is a clown car compared to what the RS should have been

I’m sure they’ll be fine without you.

They should have called it the "Sport" trim like the Crosstrek and called it a day.

​​​@@stevemarteganiThe Impreza Sport was a thing before being dropped in favor of RS. The RS trim feels like it's overselling alleged sportiness to a demographic that likely doesn't care, whereas "Sport" seems more earnestly pedestrian with its intent.

@@stevemartegani They do share the same engine.

Subaru has a cult following in the northeast and northwest. I don’t get it either as many others have awd now

​@@ptiscool3334 They have been riding their rally success for 30+ years It's insane that people still think only subaru can make a good awd drivetrain

I don't own one but I used to sell them the mass following is because of the built-in roll cage on every Subaru the symmetrical all-wheel drive that one hundred percent eliminates any torque steer under any condition and the fact that they will last mechanically longer than most anything else on the planet

@@danielkiss7003I think it’s just been helping little old ladies in the snow for the past 30 years and that’s what’s keeping them around. That and the “hippies” who need to go off-road to go camping in the minimal ground clearance crosstrek.

@@danielkiss7003 good point. Audi did it first with "Quattro", but I realise Subarus are more affordable 4WD machines than Audis.

I know they did the Canada dollars to Freedom dollars conversion just to give viewers an idea but an RS ain’t no $23k in the US. This is a $30k-$31k car in the US. The only reason this thing makes sense in the US from a value standpoint is because Civics are still marked up to the moon.

No, it was a marketing gimmick so it stands for "Raise Sales".

Subaru must wake up from coma 😂