Sorry for typos - stupid spell check on my phone.

thank you for this!!

Wow that’s an amazing story man !! God bless you guys !! I love stories like that , everyday guys just going about there day and then suddenly there risking there lives for a fellow neighbor!! It’s Truly beautiful to see men come together to save a life 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Ya know you never hear the media report on stories of the beauty in felllow mankind !! The media only report on the horrible and sick things done by people they never mention acts of courage and bravery done by everyday people !! God is great 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Amen to these heroes !!!

Hey Jeff if I contact the APP would you be interested in helping me get these guys together to do a story on there heroism ? Id be happy to contact my friend at the APP to do the story ! If so send me your contact

Spectacular work, great story, amazing rescue..!!!

Amazing got there just after!

The construction workers were incredibly brave with what they accomplished

That is incredible that they did that! Act of heroism!!

Please see my separate comment for accuracy in the report of what actually happened.

@@jeribamonte4305 And where is that report?

It looks like the first truck in ran out of water before the exposure appeared threatened.

I've been seeing this same thing on all of the volunteer videos. They all just want to go right to "putting the wet stuff on the red stuff" instead of protecting exposures when the ofb is basically already a loss.

@@Nash1a once the first line was charged, a water supply should have immediately been established.

No hydrants with houses that close? If not, why not have a pumper/tanker? Local VFD has one that carry 4000 gallons and can charge at least 2 lines.

@@Caterpillar955 ok so knowing of the water supply issue, right away chief should put a tender task force order in and request mutual aid for man power and an engine. First on scene, engine or 4k gallon tanker/pumper as mine was (either of those two should be first in, nothing else). Tanker lays a line possible two if it's a tanker/pumper for exposure protection immediately. Ofb is a loss right from arrival assessment. Once the chauffeur charges the line/lines thefirst arriving engine lays another line for a back up or to initiate an exterior attack or if equipped fire up the deck cannon, then helps set up the pools and siphon. Then fills the pool and searches for a refill source. Next arrival (water supply) dumps the tank and makes contact either with command about the location of the fill site or directly with the previous tanker. From there on tanker round is in operation. Command should be made aware of how far from the scene the fill site is, about how many gpm of water is moving in fire ground operations (exposure protection and fire suppression, make a decision regarding the possible need for additional engines, the need for aerial operations then make adjustments needed to keep a constant flow of water. However, if there are hydrants, well no explanation needed. Chief in command immediately puts in for a second alarm and either the chief or first arrival makes an initial assessment. If first arrival is the chief, he/she establishes a central command post. First in engine and or truck drop a line or two if capable immediately on to exposures... NOT the ofb exposures first. Chauffeur charges the line or lines for immediate exposure protection, again ofb is a loss exposures first and if capable to operate handlines and a deck cannon fire the cannon up to the ofb...and full fire ground operations are started. Immediately after confirming all ground operations are working properly, the chauffeur immediately goes to the nearest hydrant if it wasn't tapped on the way in which is dependent on manpower and what other apparatus are responding which the first arriving chief should know because of a pre-planned alarm system and again make adjustments needed. Everything else goes the same obviously except for tanker operations. First arriving chief or could be an officer sets up command From here on everyone reports to the IC. If additional chiefs show up, as command send them one to each side of the dwelling so as they are able to report back to command progress and the who, what, where, when, and how. So with ALL of that said (too much explanation sorry) even without hydrants the exposures should come first and with proper tanker round operations thru a preplan and training a consistent water supply should be set up quickly. Either way initial operations should and could start quickly.

I doubt there is a comment I could agree with more than this. Nailed it. As a long time firefighter myself, I was screaming from the moment the video started about getting inside. DO NOT wait for supply, but also do not get too far in that you cant back out if unable to secure a positive water source. They could have probably stopped all of what happens with less than a full tank of water...I will hush now.

Why would they not lay in

Absolutely correct. This fire called for an offensive attack from within. That is where the main body of fire was. Way too much time was wasted by going defensive from the start, especially when the water supply was limited.

Thank you for your input Dennis Smith🥴. I’m sure your department hits it hard from the yard and makes fantastic pancakes.

While I totally agree with you in NJ 2 in 2 out. They look like they didn’t have the manpower. Rough days to run a volunteer crew. Windy day. From my chair I’m grateful I didn’t have to run that job. Would have been 2 and 1 first due another 2 n 1 backing up and mopping up in minutes in a career town but not everyone gets that service.

Yes!!! Lol

Haha man… not sure why they didn’t. Would’ve been beneficial

FIRST thing you do...Find hydrants, establish supply

@@rjrestorationstation4402 not all departments run that was for instance my department depending on eta is second in we go attack first and second in pulls supply but as we see there is some serious training that needs to happen with this department and I hope they find the time/funds to do it so something like this doesn’t happen again

@@itiswhatitis1306 The paid department that I retired from, that was the SOP. First due, drop a five inch supply line. Second due may not make it there, (wreck, mechanical issues) Assure you’ve got water and begin attack.

i agree with ya.....stand there with hose in hand,,,and let it burn

“But it’s the 2nd due responsibility to get the hydrant, not ours”

@@Mark-em5zm So your dept you just go to the fire and watch it burn with your Tank drained PiZZing into the wind?? Our dept 1 st would pull hydrant On the way in!! I.ve even grabbed the main line as the truck rolled in, 1 man can do it!!!!!!!!!!! OMG Train train train!!!

@@danyoung5346 dude I was being sarcastic. You on A shift? Edit: I am at a very busy and aggressive station in my city. We pride ourselves in taking care of everything ourselves before the next due companies arrive. This video would have gotten us written up and a form 23 by our chief. And most likely night drills on holidays.

Fight it with organized chaos. Lay in water. Than get topd no.

Looks like I found our YT firefighter. There is always at least one. Right, Kristofer? 😂

@@JakeW26 they did a good job letting someone’s house burn to the ground and almost the next door neighbors.

Do you have lights and sirens on your Barcalounger? What a tool.

Agreed. The training staff and leadership at this department needs to be fired. This is one of the worst departments I’ve seen. Can’t believe the house next door didn’t burn down too. I would be embarrassed to show this video.

@@ronbradley5631 You wield a mighty BarcaLounger. The world patiently waited for your assessment, you struggled upright, ripped off a few farts and delivered!

Hahahahaha

@@jerseyshorefireresponse come on JSF you cannot sarcastically respond like this. You received an F for total failure. Watch a ICS fire service trained in tactics and strategy. No water supply, white helmets walking in circles, (no command post set up) one hose line on the fire. Where were the ladders to hit the 2nd floor? Glad you have the video to watch the joke. At least you can confirm how the fire grows and spreads when the fire is allow too.

@@genezehring6057 I am just media…

@@jerseyshorefireresponse sorry didn’t know, hopefully some chiefs, training staff or whatever governmental jurisdictional board will read. I’m sorry for this homeowner, the citizens within this fire protection response area. They deserve a 21st Century professionally trained fire deportment. Their equipment is notable.

Instead of armchair quarterbacking, why don't you narrate like a professional and check your punctuation?

@@scottross2459 Because armchair QBing is way more fun. People love to throw in their .02 when nobody asks.

@@robdog1245 Your right they need to hire inshape fast working people that are Properly trained and give a fuc*

What did I just watch?

@@robdog1245 Its only called Armchair QBing when you don't want criticism.

I would have Definitely dropped a Supply line Wrapped the Hydrant told them to go made the Connection and had water flowing and would have Prevented that big Fire Ball.... The Chief and First due should have Known Better

I watched one like this about 4 years ago, they were tankering in water but kept running out, the fire spread to two adjacent properties, the guy filming got behind the properties eventually and would you believe it whilst they were tankering in water there was a lake about 40 feet from the back of the houses.

chief sucks - he was worst one out there that day

They should always snag a hydrant on the way in

Not taking a hydrant is an excuse not to go in and set up your tower ladder. Just like not putting your Scott on and having to go back to the rig and get it it’s an excuse for not going into an interior fire. There are lots of ways that fakers avoid going in to do interior fire fighting. It should be pointed out and these people should be exposed

It also a wind fed fire. There is nothing wrong with transitional attacks. So tired of hearing interior shit. Knock fire down. The public only wants to see us put water in the fire. These are the fires that kill. We are our own worst enemy. There was a video from FDNY a little while ago. The whole ass end of the house was on fire through multiple levels and “aggressive” interior attacks didn’t do shit and spread to another house. There was also a VES in which he came bailing out smoking. We need Chief Dunn to write a book of the importance of putting water on the fire.

Well said.

I’m inclined to agree with you. The chiefs not giving orders and the chiefs not knowing who is 2nd due is silly, and at least being ready to make the push would have set these guys up for success. The water supply issue is inexcusable.

But to the untrained eye they looked cool 😎. Lol

Buddy, you have no idea what you're talking about

I agree, I read in another comment that it was around a quarter mile stretch from the hydrant, but that doesn’t mean nothing else can get done until the water supply was established. There were several people not doing much of anything and none of them had any sense of urgency. They could have been stretching dry lines so they were ready to go when the supply was finally secured. They could have been throwing ladders, caching tools, and wait for it…. packing up. I get that they are volunteers, but that doesn’t negate the need for a good training program. It is safe to assume that they were trying to “stretch” their tank water as far as they could so that’s why they deployed the small hand line, that or it’s what they always use so it was muscle memory, regardless even on tank water a 2 1/2 would have been more effective. Sure it’ll drain the tank faster but the BTU absorption would have bought time. There are several videos on KZfaq that illustrate this point. One single 2 1/2” line can put a lot of fire out in 45-60 seconds. Chief officers should have been able to recognize that much more could have been getting done during the early stages of this fire and made the appropriate tactical changes. Even if they have a policy to not go interior until a water supply is established, a 2 1/2” line on the outside would have been a better choice.

Can you link us to you department's videos so we can see how it's done?

We don’t spend time filming, we focus our efforts on training and putting fires out. You can’t get upset if a video is posted and people critique it. There were some inadequacies in this video, if you could swallow some pride and listen to some of the feedback, then apply it, perhaps those inadequacies would be fewer next time. Every department has bad days, every department loses buildings. I’ve had a 25 year career captain deploy too small of a line on a fire and two houses were lost as a result. But, after every incident we have we do an AAR and we accept responsibility for our mess ups, we don’t deflect, then we train and we don’t do them again. We don’t need to post videos in efforts to look heroic then sit back and get told what we did wrong. We tell ourselves. That’s what makes a professional department. Just because you’re in a volunteer department doesn’t mean you can’t be a professional department. The community you serve deserves that whether there are served by volunteers or career firefighters. I get it, it’s hard to get quality training in a volunteer department, I started out as one myself. But the only way to get better is to make training a priority. I don’t believe my first post was hyper critical, I even tried to express the benefit of the doubt about making entry and line selection. But what I said about people not having urgency and not setting themselves up for success when a supply was established is irrevocably true. A 2 1/2” line would have also bought time… it wouldn’t have put the fire out, but it would have knocked a big chunk of it out.

@@davidrossman7925 - I'm not a fireman so there's no "pride" to worry about. Why not film some of your training and have someone film actual fires for training. If nothing else, you could at least stop being a dick.

THose arent real firefighters, no hose line in front door, no tools in hand, and the dumbsht holding the hose must be waiting for the marshmellows.

I was thinking the same thing 🤔

Exactly, he almost let that other house catch on fire.

The crew were complaining that they had a water supply issue early in the video.

They ran out of water or something

I am.sitting here screaming at him.

Well said! I agree with you completely! Incompetent clowns!!

This is down right stupid out of all the firemen we got out here only one dude fighting the fire at that point let it burn we got these clowns out here on an stand vacation.

Burn it down to your size then put it out

@@mac9375 YUP

@@Mother_Russia1 like the house is savable at any point. if your not a firefighter then don't say a word

Why don't you join

Or instead of him joining the guys already there can maybe train to better themselves 🤷🏻‍♂️

He makes a great point. This is a bread and butter fire. 1st line stretched into the structure puts it out very quickly

Maybe if the government would pay its firefighters they could focus more time on training and less time on their ACTUAL job, but they don't. So maybe you should think before you speak and realize the sacrifice these guys make.

@@ryansmith3511 you're talking to a career firefighter

There is a multitude of problems here. One line stretched and operating? Need more than one.

you can operate on the roof of light weight construction, just have less time. but I can tell they never had any intention of doing vertical ventilation here as they didn’t go interior on arrival. By the time they did, fire was self venting.

@@bobbys1984 So what are you, an accountant? From the beginning of this video, there appears to be PLENTY of ventilation.

@@Nash1a lol didn’t know you need to be an accountant to monitor roof stability. I know one thing you’re not and that is a firefighter.

Just want to add the most companies came from mainland Toms River as this fire was half way up barrier island.

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And got watered too.

He is from NJ, what else would you expect? :)

Always and never are two words that should be used the least in the fire service

What's the distance between hydrants in this location, I know I'm I a different nation but I can see two hydrant points from my front door

You are 100% correct

Base pumper blitz attack with tank only and asking or next engine to bring water happened about 20% of the time when I was working. It’s ok to do if you have the manpower and hydrants

I’m having trouble understanding why the water ran out. How close was the nearest hydrant? This was a terrible loss and I give credit to the fire fighters on scene for the job they did and for keeping it from spreading to the neighboring house. Anyone know how it started? Thankfully looks like no one was hurt.

Que equipe de Bombeiros !!!🙈

Donna Dreyer.......I heard one around 2:00.

The worst thing about this is that there is a hydrant right around the corner!

@@bp4170 so poor training?

@@retireeslife4013 Very possible but definitely poor preplanning. Could just be the people in charge. Not every one is cut out to be Chief even if the majority think you're a nice guy. In my area the dispatch center will give you the closest hydrant in relation to the address but that is due to excellent preplanning. As a Chief, one of my main thoughts when dispatched for a fire is; where is the water. Judging by the amount of fire, the first piece of apparatus should have been instructed to hit a hydrant on the way in unless there was another one on his ass and if there wasn't any leadership on scene, someone in that ladder truck should have known.

@@bp4170 While I don't know anyone who was involved I can say after 35 yrs doing this job you hit that one square on the head. To many " think" they know how to lead and fail horribly. Stay safe , train your guys and gals right and you will retire some day with a good conscience.

They could've went in at the start 1-3 people went in so how hard is it to take a line in? You have your PPE use it!

They don't have any education (look like that) Embarrassing

Да потому что, как вы видели, весь квартал сгорел. Посмотрите, как работает ваша страна, и попробуйте еще раз.

This is absolutely disgusting firefighting. They are doing a horrific job

@@johnabert1112 Whoever chooses firefighting as profession must know what lies ahead of him.

@@jurgenkuhlmann9194 chances are, these are not professionals. They are volunteers. Some volunteers and volunteer fire departments are good. This one is horrible

@@johnabert1112 OK - it seems you know better than I, as you are closer to the scene. I'm sitting at my computer thousands of miles away, which makes it harder to judge upon the professionalism of the firefighters shot by someone else's camera! But firefighting - be it volunteers or professionals - rests on two pillars: equipment + training. When one of the two is below standard, you have horrible firefighting!

1. This is why it should be necessary to have at least one 24/7 professional company on the main Island. It is utterly negligent for this moderate to high population density to rely on Volunteers who have at least a 20 minute response time. 2. The spacing of fire hydrants has nothing to do with the water supply volume. Also, there is no where in NJ with this population density that hydrants are 3000 feet apart. 3. Wind does suck during any structure fire. It really hampers fire suppression. However, the wind in this incident is nothing out of the ordinary. 4. This statement is completely false. One of the IC’s main concern with any fire should be establishing a primary watery supply regardless of the arrival of the other resources. Life safety, Incident stabilization, and property preservation are the concerns at every fire. If you don’t secure that primary water supply, it isn’t safe for the firefighters to complete a primary search or do an interior attack. With that said an interior attack on booster tank water would be appropriate for this scenario to slow down the fast progression of the fire wile waiting the arrival of additional resources. The Supply Line being charged has nothing to do with road access as it is supposed to be dropped at the side of the road anyways. If not possible the apparatus can straddle it. 5. This is true, but its sad and drastically jeopardizes many lives. Paid professionals need to be utilized in areas as secluded and dense this.

@@bobbys1984 just got the word from a Passaic ff that mr. Bobbys1984 is just disgruntled at the world. lol poor guy.

@@ryansmith3511 lol nice try, not disgruntled, love my JOB. Only thing I'm disgruntled is the volunteers devaluing my profession by doing it for free. (pretending to do it).

Ha are you kidding me, you must have watched this drunk.

I heard someone say they were out of water at one point. You would think in a neighborhood like this, there would be ample fire protection (hydrants). These developers who build these house stacked on top of one another as well as the city codes people should be held accountable for having the necessary amount of fire hydrants

yes you are 100% i felt the same way you did. brother.

@@mikeadcock1592 Or maybe, and we don’t know from this video, the first in truck didn’t lay their own supply

It's always the same no matter what we do... you'll always get the armchair firefighters who would've done this would've done that... now it's just 34 years later and they have internet and a keyboard. Nothing changes...

@@machinistmikethetinkerer4827 Always that guy wanting to throw around 34 years of credentials to add nothing of use to the discussion, yet here we are.

Some areas dont have fire hydrants so it has to be trucked in

The bay is literally across the street

What about drafting ..that’s an evolution they should know ..

@@adogsupreme1739 "Some areas dont have fire hydrants" . . . so is this the fault of China ? Or who else could change this?

@@adogsupreme1739 223 to the nearest hydrant. 845’ to the next. And the house is essentially on a peninsula and sits within 150’ of the intracoastal bay and infinite amounts of water. It’s poor tactics. Plain and simple.

No worries ;)

Yup very poor fire dept tactics , the Chief should be indicted for complete lack of any firematic capability whatsoever

Engine. You mean engine

I take it back. It looks like a ladder truck was first on the scene so that might not have a hose bed to lay hose.

Holy moly, you are god's gift to firefighting arent you. I think they need you up at the chief's office because he's asking you to replace him.

I am guessing you could of put it out all by yourself even without a firetruck

Very valid questions with two asshat replies... And I speak from both career and volunteer land, anything for me? We get it, the fire went out. But don't get your panties in such a bunch when there were clearly many shortcomings at this incident. My guys are watching this video for training today because examples like this afford us all a chance to learn things. Maybe you should read some of these critical comments and put them to use, see what works and doesn't rather than making some douchebag comment back.

It all crumbles down to the shortfalls of the volunteer model. If you had an aggressive interior attack made upon arrival, you would have no need for a 2.5 inch to protect the exposure.

@@Mack18Eng how is your back feeling, must hurt from all the patting going on. lol waker! your guys you say....Who would say that uhg? lol Rich Mackey thanks for giving us your resume no one gives a rats ass. I see you BTW

LMAO

Im saying i saw a lot of standing around ..Sorry..

Unfortunately you can call this one a total loss, I sure hope the family was okay firemen dropped the ball on this one

At least it was a self venting fire there around 8:40

unbelievable 😢

i like to have him say it all the time !!!!! great vid

@@ryansmith3511 you must be dumb then

Not those firefighters. They fucked up from the start

@@Firefighter_303 // Anything else you want to f-bomb like an 8th grader? smh

@@DanKoning777 Give him a Break . 303 is a Firefighter 🙂

@@michaelseidenberg2323 // Really? Is that a moral bankruptcy free card? No mystery why the U.S. is failing.

Thank them for what? Not doing their jobs?

If only people could get it through their heads that this newer lightweight/engineered lumber needs to be taken more seriously with regards to the risks over other materials, EVEN conventional lumber. "But it will raise the costs?!?!" some will argue with regards to using better materials, more fire proofing, etc... Bullshit, it'll raise the costs because the developers won't make as much of a margin as they like, they can't pull the wool over our eyes, we're not morons.

@@DanknDerpyGamer coming from the uk where the majority of homes are brick built, and commercial buildings are brick, steel and glass, that construction terrifies me. We have problems here where cladding has been retrofitted to buildings and the tragedy of the Grenfell Tower a few years ago, where many died, there is a concerted effort to make other similar buildings safe.

@Tax Payer depends on where you work.

Hey tax payer their job is dangerous I mean they deal with fire and like my cousin here where I live he's a paramedic and firefighter so both jobs can be equally dangerous depending on the depth of it

@Tax Payer Let me help you out since you’re a little slow. A fire dept could go to one house fire a year and another could go to a hundred. You can’t get hurt when you’re sleeping.

@Tax Payer does your garbage collector see people in their worst times. Like people mangled in bad car accidents or kids that been severely injured or has your garbage collector had someone die in their arms. I'm going to go with definitely not. So maybe you should work a while in their shoes before saying anything about them. Oh never mind you probably couldn't last a day in their shoes.

@Tax Payer you have no idea what your talking about trash guys don’t run into burning buildings our stand out at wrecks in thunderstorms. Shut up

It’s tragic when ANY home burns

@@richardyork9495 Well obviously. I just feel extra sad when it’s a big beautiful expensive home. (I have a love for houses.)

What's sad is those you call to come save your property actually wind up destroying it more than the fire did..

@@gmon3380 Well sometimes perhaps but they’re just doing their job. They have to use water to get the fire out. No matter how big or small.

@@blessedmwsmom you see all that protective gear they're wearing. Well that's to protect them while they're inside putting the fire out..not standing outside squirting water..

So it seems you are the Perfect firefighter...go and teach the guys your Knowledge and Share your incredible awesome experience

@@lupo23 . . . the poor infrastructure could be built up - damn I forgot: you urgently needed some additional aircraft carriers and stealth bombers to defend the USA on the other side of the globe . . .

@@carmenschumann826 what 😂

@@lupo23 EXACTLY !

The only issues they had is they don’t know wtf they are doing. Not necessarily the firefighters fault but the leadership. They clearly have no idea what to do.

It shoulda been done immediately upon arrival

you cant see the other line in the bldg. just a heads up. it was there.

@@ryansmith3511 just a heads up, there is a very clear shot of one line in use HIHFTY when he shoulda been inside nipping that relatively small fire in the bud.

@@bobbys1984 they had a line INSIDE. you have no clue what was going on inside stop the Assuming, typical guy behind the computer looking at fire youtube vids lol MR. "shoulda been done immediately upon arrival" "relatively small fire" you never seen the C and D side of the bldg. and what was going on there. lol BoBBys1984. joker you are. thanks for the input Mr. Shoulda lmao. love it

@@ryansmith3511 I guess Toms River has the only invisible fire hoses out there cause when you hit play on this video there is no line to be seen anywhere entering that building other than the guy peeing on it from the yard. Or youre completely blind cause there is absolutely no exposure problem till they LET there be an exposure problem. Mr. Smith you brave soul you.

To stop the house from burning to the ground and catching other surrounding structures which will also burn to the ground.

@@bobbys1984 To effectively do that you'd use a surround and drown. There is little they can do from inside a self-vented structure like that. The building is a total loss. There isn't a good reason to be inside it unless there is an entrapment.

Thats a no go on inside operations

@@420dude1814 looks like they arrived on seen of fire showing on exterior of house on division 2. They went in without a supply line, knocked down exterior fire by time footage started. They then flowed a fog nozzle for 1:30 minutes wide open before they possible ran out of water. ( so they had plenty of water to go interior). That handline was still charged so I’m not even sure they ran out of water .There was no smoke on first floor, you can actually see a firefighter walk out of front door without a helmet or mask on. Knock down the exterior and go inside and extinguish. They essentially hydraulically ventilated into the structure with the use of that handline

@Reginald (Reggie) Smith lol some of the fire departments. drive hell a fast there take their time setting the hoses by the time they set up whatever it was is either burnt to ashes or now fully engulfed in flame. kind a like the movies when the police show up after everything is all done.

The first crews on scene was a ladder with no water supply and the next company didnt come in for a few more minutes. Had an engine followed right behind on initial arrival they may not have had that issue but it doesnt always work that way unfortunately with thrown together crews.

@@NPhillips856 so why was there no water supply?? Zero excuse

@@tripleminthehouse because the first crew on scene was the truck company, they were trying to put what on the fire. Nearest hydrant was further down the street and it was a few minutes before the next due arrived. Like i said thats what happens when thrown together crews dont prioritize things.

@@tripleminthehouse i think you missed my point entirely.

SSH FD is not aggressive They burn every building down!

2.5 is for reach and penetration. The only use for that at this fire is for B side exposure protection. There should have been a 1.75 immediately stretched to the seat of the fire upon arrival for speed and mobility. But they utterly failed.