After 2 months of testing.. I have 2 products that seal wet (newly cut) wood that will prevent it from cracking and checking. Titebond Original Wood Glue - www.lowes.com/... Natural Beeswax Pastilles - www.hobbylobby...
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@WoodenCreationz6 жыл бұрын
Update: The day I filmed this I moved all good cookies to the basement next to the de humidifier. (1 week in). all Titebond glue and all beeswax/beeswax w/ mineral spirits are all 100% crack and check free... I will update again later with a mositure meter reading. At the time of when they were cut they were so wet they were too high to read.. I am feeling pretty confident with these results to make wood cookies and give them away with these methods. Hope this helps someone in the future as I have learned a lot and enjoyed the results. 👊🏻😉
@DanLimbach5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. It's down to the Mineral Oil/Beeswax vs. Titebond glue. Titebond is the better option for simplicity, especially of you are going to sand the glue off when you eventually do your project. No prep time needed, just squeeze it on and spread it out. For long-term storage of wood, the Mineral Oil/beeswax treatment may be better, as it will flex with the changes in humidity.
@SocialAssistor4 жыл бұрын
Can I use this on a two week old Oak/maple stump? I'm very impatient and I want to get going on the project. Also, once I put the wax on does it stay on or will I need to end up sanding it off?
@thebicyclesafaris3 жыл бұрын
Was wondering what your ratio was for the mineral oil to beeswax. Thanks so much for the great video!
@toonybrain3 жыл бұрын
I use homemade food-grade mineral oil/beeswax paste to seal my carved spoons, mortar and pestles, and whittled projects. It can also be used to keep your hands smooth. 🙂 Thanks for this comparison.
@Actias19743 жыл бұрын
Did your control also not crack?
@jayclark22452 жыл бұрын
You called the wood Oak, but it really looks like Black Walnut, and walnut will check easily. Young walnut has the lighter sapwood.
@WoodenCreationz6 ай бұрын
Jeez you’re right!!! Yeah it was walnut! Totally missed that!! 😳 ha!
@utubebgay3 жыл бұрын
just getting into wood carving and was curious about the best ways of sealing ends - this was very enlightening. Thanks for taking the time and showing all these real-world results.
@KennethColeStatenIsland5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I've been turning wet oak, and when finished making boxes I store in sawdust and wood chips. Dries slow but no cracking, very happy. I weigh on a scale and check with a moisture meter every few days. When it stops losing weight I know it's dry.
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
That is awesome.. I cant claim this brilliant Glue idea as my own.. But i too have found it works awesome and had to share and test everything under the sun to make sure we had the best results!!!! Thanks for the reply! -Brian
@sirbobdesign4 жыл бұрын
I love the single log slices... and the different results matter.
@WoodenCreationz4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment.
@cattleNhay2 жыл бұрын
I use grandma’s old candles, boil them bubbling hot then dunk the end grain in. For larger stuff I use a huge brush, dunk in bubbling hot wax and immediately brush on end grain. Cheapest and best option for me great results. I use a big propane burner and huge pot. Sometimes in thrift stores you can find bags full of broken candles for extremely cheap. I think it’s important for the wax to be bubbling hot it seems to work better than just melted wax okay bye
@sari6929Ай бұрын
Point noted
@JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures5 жыл бұрын
Haven't read all the comments below, but the beeswax/mineral spirits seems awfully close to what I make, which is beeswax, mineral oil, coconut oil and olive oil together also known as fixin wax. It has many uses and yes can be used like chapstick for you lips or cracked knuckles. It is good for leather, wood and even putting on high carbon steel to keep it from rusting. Since I am into knife making and I am trying to use my own wood for knife scales, once I have chosen the type of wood I am going to use and cut a block, I apply the fixin wax to the block to help prevent cracking in the drying process of the wood.
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thank you for sharing!
@a.s.2457 Жыл бұрын
@ J&J True Outdoor; Would you kindly share your recipe for your Fixin Wax? It would be appriciated. Thank you, A.S.
@pamelalee57243 жыл бұрын
When I spend all day looking for this... thank you!!! I am polying mine and I didn't know if it's the best move. Now I know I messed up.
@josephhartman8073 Жыл бұрын
Oak, are you sure, sure looks like walnut to me. Good test for sure, Thanks
@copperheadh10525 жыл бұрын
In my barn I have over 30 logs that I sealed with titebond....persimmon, oak, cedar, hickory, hornbeam, ash, pecan, sycamore, walnut, cherry and a few unknown logs that caught my eye while out cutting firewood. The glue has performed well with only a few logs that have minor checking after 3 years. It"s about time to buy a lathe.
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome and after you cut off the ends the checking and splitting should be gone. 💪🏻👈🏻
@robertmccarty51684 жыл бұрын
you could buy a lathe. or you could load up a truck, and bring those logs to me.
@AffordBindEquipment5 жыл бұрын
problem I had with the glue was the logs were seeping so much water that it took overnight to dry one coat. I put 2 coats on and will see how it works. You are not the only one to recommend the glue and so it must work. Wood turners use it too. For what you are making, I think a little checking will add to the looks, making them look vintage.
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
I agree and it works well.. ty for your comment. 🍻
@treewisemenllc72815 жыл бұрын
Tung oil, both sides with a brush has worked well for me. Titebond, I will admit is, the bomb. Maybe if deluted some with a solvent and it won't be so rough. I've also used shellac with a brush (not from a spray can) and have had good results. All in all it depends on the control of climate where you're drying. As well as the consistency. Air flow plays just as much importance as climate control.
@victorparisian3833 Жыл бұрын
Someone at my woodturning club (Gulf Coast Wood Turners) suggested diluting the Titebond with water first. I used 50/50 ratio last evening and coated the end grain on some pearwood logs with it. I'm heading to the shop now to apply 2nd coat. I'll try to report back on the results.
@WoodenCreationz6 жыл бұрын
The audio was a bit rough on this one.. but I tried my best....Enjoy!
@ivancho58542 жыл бұрын
I have used PVA glue with great results. Simple and very cheap. All the best.
@WaynJul6 жыл бұрын
Pretty good test. You can get a clock kit and make a clock out of them to.
@WoodenCreationz6 жыл бұрын
Wayn Jul excellent idea!
@user-hw4jz5eh5dАй бұрын
Ya done good, real good!
@luisvelasco316 Жыл бұрын
I use Anchorseal.. Not cheap, but a quart lasts a long time, works well, easy to apply, goes on white but dries clear so easy to tell coverage.
@BeeBait5 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite woodworking into ever! Congrats, earned a subscriber!
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that! I try to sneak something funny into every episode! 👊🏻😜
@BeeBait5 жыл бұрын
@@WoodenCreationz yeah, been flipping through, learning tons and writing things in my journal! The humor and clear but relatable explanations really tie everything together to make amazing to watch videos! Thanks man, clicking the bell for more!
@botfoblhrp Жыл бұрын
thanks for fantastic info. we got up to 30 inch cookies so brushing is only way to seal . i see lot people say they dunk 😳 , we dont have pot big enough 😆
@cabman862 жыл бұрын
I use an oil based floor poly on mine. Never have checking or cracking on any of them.
@Susan22753 жыл бұрын
Great video and visuals! Really clear- thanks :)
@mig4mar2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your info!!!
@danl.81673 жыл бұрын
I use paraffin wax and mineral spirits. The paraffin wax is about three dollars a pound at local grocery store. Paraffin is barber then Bee's wax so I shave the wax and use more mineral spirits then I would use with Bee's wax. I use this to seal the end of logs to make them dry slower. I do not use this as a finish. I cut my logs into lumber and when I use my boards I cut off wax ends so they don't affect my final finish.
@staceyswelding2 жыл бұрын
Great video with good information!
@Shroommduke3 жыл бұрын
An old-timer told me , bout 40 years ago or so, that he used paraffin dissolved in gasoline (carefully), said he'd use it to make a rain coat out of old thrift-store jackets. I've never tried it.
@Patrick331944 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your experiment with us!
@johncampbell9120 Жыл бұрын
Wood glue works perfectly.
@hudsonriverlee4 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday B.
@WoodenCreationz4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lee!!! 😜👉🏻🎂
@ags40583 жыл бұрын
This professional class... thank you.. Sir..🥰👏👏
@robertcornelius35145 жыл бұрын
I want big money for this tip: On the back side of your project piece, drill at least a dozen tiny holes half-way through the pith. The culprit is the pith.
@grc56184 жыл бұрын
Funny looking oak..lol. Excellent video, thanks for the great information.
@WoodenCreationz4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.. appreciate that a lot!!
@ManCrafting6 жыл бұрын
Wood moves a lot. So hard to keep from cracking. Good test.
@WoodenCreationz6 жыл бұрын
Chad you are correct... Sadly you can't just grab and fresh log and make something awesome with it out cracking.. Hopefully my tests help someone else in the future. Always appreciate your comments and enjoying your new position on the Making Time podcast bud. Enjoying your thoughts and experience. -Brian
@ManCrafting6 жыл бұрын
WoodenCreationz I ♥️ you.
@WoodenCreationz6 жыл бұрын
Usually women usually take me out to dinner and a movie before saying that... But you have a laser... You sir have earned a fast pass!
@garyp19306 ай бұрын
Great job !!! how did u cut those pieces of wood ? looks perfect .. did u sand them too
@WoodenCreationz6 ай бұрын
really appreciate that!!!
@brianvargo26555 жыл бұрын
That looks more like black walnut than oak wood
@chewyskywalker61665 жыл бұрын
Ya i think it too
@anthonygreen96093 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to find a method of sealing the wood so it won't crack and a method I think I will try is melting candle wax and pouring and sealing the exposed wood with that and see how I get on with that.
@user-fz1en2dx7c7 ай бұрын
What does it meaning of mineral oil. ? Could u pls indentiify?
@quinntheeskimooutdoors62344 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, I need this info. Take care.
@charliebailey37716 жыл бұрын
Awesome and funny as always!
@WoodenCreationz6 жыл бұрын
Taco Master RC Thanks man. Gotta keep it fresh!!!
@trinstable2 жыл бұрын
Species check. You mention you used oak, looks alot like black walnut to me.
@friendsonearth6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and take a long time come out this study
@moonwatcher40493 жыл бұрын
What’s your thoughts on using boiled linseed oil on endgrain for sealing?
@charlieskinner52973 жыл бұрын
I'm buying a bunch of big tree rounds for knife and axe throwing targets. I hadn't realized that cracking was virtually guaranteed. Do you think it's a bad idea, or do you think with bees wax and mineral oil, it could work. Any other ideas appreciated. I was thinking if I cut them in half and then put them back together it might help?
@Shroommduke3 жыл бұрын
You must be related to Cosmo Kramer!
@jillpalmer96753 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your knowledge gained by a lot of hard work. Could you tell me the ratio of bees wax to mineral oil you used? Thank you.
@richardcraig4163 жыл бұрын
did you get a answer to your question i am also interested in the ratio
@YouWontBelieveWhatILearned Жыл бұрын
Do you sand them first?
@sharikastenholz43674 жыл бұрын
I have some ponderosa pine cookies that my husband cut last Thursday. Should we sand them before treating them? Also, how soon after cutting them should they be treated, as we need to cut more? Will they be ready to use by mid-August, i.e. will they be "dry"? Thanks for your quick response & your helpful video!
@Bapuji423 жыл бұрын
Does this basically work by slowing down the drying? Or does it completely seal the moisture in, preventing the wood from drying at all? It seems like if it's the latter, if you ever sanded the beeswax/glue off, the wood would still check.
@hardstylelife5749 Жыл бұрын
Nice test and video, very cool comparison. Did you ever try with simple linseed oil?
@WoodenCreationz Жыл бұрын
You know what I didnt.. A quick GOOG.. and it states it does work as a drying agent. But it may still check and crack. My guess is.. it soaks in and does help dry, but isn't enough to totally plug the ends of the log and allow the moisture to dry out on the bark side rather than the cut end side. Just a guess but worth a test.. Thanks for the comment.
@hardstylelife5749 Жыл бұрын
@@WoodenCreationz my pleasure; if I may share my two bits worth of experience, if you arrive to full saturation of the wood (on parquet I reach that level with 3/4 coats of it) it become waterproof and “sealed” despite the pores remaining “open”. Still didn’t try for drying out wood, but if you’ll give it a try, I’ll be happy to know the results :)
@born2tx2 жыл бұрын
Stewart? Are you playing with mommy's oven again? 😜👍🏼
@kevinbeske15903 жыл бұрын
Im making drink coasters out of some wood cookies. Ive had the best luck with 2 part epoxy. Im interested in trying that bees wax, but, lets say i put a warm mug on the coaster, the beeswax remelt right?
@DerekAVroom3 жыл бұрын
What about putting the beeswax + oil first, then doing a 2 part epoxy after? O.o
@canisamator793710 ай бұрын
What about linseed oil????
@dougstamler17543 жыл бұрын
Hi. Very good info . Appreciate all the testing you did. Where abouts are you located ? Reason I ask is I live in Manitoba , Canada. We are currently in winter . My issue with end sealants at this time is the cold weather / wood . They don't penetrate , now . If i wait till spring checking will have done its damage by then . I tried bringing 1 log into shop to warm it up & apply sealant . When it went back out side it cracked badly. -25 at the time . Any info you or your dad have would be very much appreciated. Thanks Doug
@johncardow24932 жыл бұрын
hi. nice video. great info. can u paint over the beez wax and or the titebond glue?
@richardcraig4163 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me the ratio of bees wax to mineral oil you used?
@thestonehousefarm19429 ай бұрын
What type of wood is this?
@WoodenCreationz9 ай бұрын
Walnut
@catsinq57265 жыл бұрын
Do either of your methods (Titebond, beeswax w/ mineral oil) provide a finish that can be left outdoors? I want to seal some big cookies for a garden path.
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not sure on that answer. I haven't tried it... But my dad does put titebond 2 on his logs and sets them outside so he can turn them later on his lathe at a later time. there is a little bit of cracking and checking on the end of the log. but it prevents the entire log from splitting so he can later turn a bowl. Titebond would probably be the better of the two out of the beeswax. Beeswax the looks the prettiest especially when you hit a little heat to it. Either way comment and let us know if you try either of these options and get any success! 💪🏻👈🏻 Brian
@diskitchen6 жыл бұрын
Hey great video I'm a newbie at wood sealing so I have a few questions - What is the mineral oil/beeswax ratio? How do you apply? What's the best way to dry if you don't have a dehimidifier?
@WoodenCreationz6 жыл бұрын
You will have to play with the ratio. My dad mixed it up. It seemed to be a 50/50 ration. Its the consistency of Vaseline. It wiped on with a rag. He uses it in turning to apply to things he makes and provides a very nice waxy to to the touch, but not wet feel. The best method for drying I have found. Is bring it inside. If you have AC in your house, it will dry nicely. Some people have created a box with a light in it for drying wet wood, especially with turning. But once you seal the wood... i have had zero issues.. Now with that said.. I did bring in my 1st wood cookie, not sealed when I did this and it cracked and then the cracked sealed back up.. So your gonna need to put bees wax or originial clear titebond on it, to prevent cracks and checks. Any anyone reading this.. Its August 19th 2018 and wood cookies in this video still have zero have cracks. (Just looked at them) and all look identical to when i put them in there in april. So i highly advise it. Hope this helps Diane and others reading it.
@thestonehousefarm19429 ай бұрын
What is checking?
@WoodenCreationz9 ай бұрын
It’s when the wood drys too quick and begins to split the wood. A log is really wet when cut. It needs to slowly dry or if it rapidly drys it splits. 😉
@daytonwatkins40264 жыл бұрын
While it’s still wet, do you seal just the edges with bark, or do you cover the whole thing
@WoodenCreationz4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just seal the wood. Not the bark. You want the moisture to slowly evaporate through the bark so don't coat it. 😉 If it drys too fast it cracks and checks... If you sealed the entire thing it wouldnt be able to dry out. 👊🏻
@daytonwatkins40264 жыл бұрын
WoodenCreationz thank you, I’m planning on making a coffee table out of part of a big tree stump, but it’s fairly wet and is going to take a while to dry out
@IslandJazz13 жыл бұрын
I'm wanting to seal the ends of my redwood cookies, but I want to be able to sand off anything I seal them with. Do you know if you can remove or sand off the beeswax or Titebond? Thank you!
@BermudaBrian4 жыл бұрын
I'm wanting to preserve some black oak logs for seating around my fire pit. What do you think is the best sealer? Spar Poly?
@WoodenCreationz4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian... I am no expert. But Spar is going to be better for outdoors than poly. Poly will look nicer but probably wont hold up as well in the weather. Hit it with spar and be prepared to sand and hit it with Spar again the following year.. Its just something we have to do... Paint holds up better but doesnt always show off the nice grain!
@glennryzebol44724 жыл бұрын
Hey bud, thanks for this video. I am looking for a non commercial method to end seal logs, cookies and smaller "unique" pieces of wood. I am in the middle of processing firewood for next year and, when cutting it up, whenever i find a nice piece i put it aside. We have some bee hives so I would like to use the wax and mineral oil method for end sealing. I see this video was posted early last year. Did it still hold up long term? Did you get to checking with a moisture meter? Thanks again. Subscribed!!!
@WoodenCreationz4 жыл бұрын
Hey Glenn!!! I looked at these wood cookies yesterday and they all are still perfect and have zero checks or cracks. I used the titebond to make a buddy his logo on one yesterday... They have been in my storage room in the basement since I made this video so it's extremely dry. I haven't tested it. But bees wax and titebond glue are both perfect and a low cost way of doing it. Again... If you ever cut wood.... Get it done the same day you cut it... It can dry over night to 48 hours and start showing checks and cracks soon after. Ty for the sub and welcome aboard!!! -Brian
@glennryzebol44724 жыл бұрын
@@WoodenCreationz Thanks. I`ve used a commercial end sealer already and have already learned lots about sealing and also about storage once the sealing is done. Seems extreme temperature fluxuations are not ideal and many of my pieces developed checks on one side only. One final question if you don`t mind. What is your ratio of wax to mineral oil?
@pamcullen5372 жыл бұрын
Very useful info thank you. A friend has just installed wooden countertops with live edge so will try beeswax/oil to seal. Question- what is the best way to preserve bark on edges so it doesn’t fall off please? 🦆💕
@trinstable2 жыл бұрын
Let it fall off and glue it back on with Titebond III waterproof glue. Leaves a brown glueseam but blends well and won't fall off again
@pamcullen5372 жыл бұрын
@@trinstable Many thanks, will pass this on 🦆💕
@GeorgeMinton-jb8ky5 жыл бұрын
Did you try Anchorseal2? It is supposed to be good but I have no experience with it.
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
I reached out to them to see if they would like to send me someone in return for the review but they never got back to me. Its pretty pricey stuff but I too have heard it works well..
@craigraper29114 жыл бұрын
Anchorseal is great but as WoodenCreations says they are proud of it. Only reason I have some is an old school teacher fellow woodturner had a couple gallons his wife gave to me after he passed way.
@BiblicalFemininity5 жыл бұрын
Your video was very informative🙂. I would like to woodburn or etch cookies. I am a novice, can you tell me approximately how long after applying the sealer i can do that? Thanks so much for the information🙂
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
Depending on the thickness a couple weeks to a month or two. Basically I seal them and then I put them down in my basement near my dehumidifier. Your house is going to dry them faster being you have an air conditioner that's drying the moisture out of the wood. It's messy and you don't want to bring in bugs but it's one way of speeding up the drying process. Another good thing to own is a moisture meter. So far to this day there is zero cracks in all of these pieces of wood! Hope that helps and I appreciate the comment!
@MrThenry1988 Жыл бұрын
Your sealing in the moisture?
@WoodenCreationz Жыл бұрын
Correct, if the moisture is released too fast on the ends that were cut the ends will crack. If you seal the ends the moisture cant escape out the ends rather has to dry out on the sides of the wood preventing splitting and checking.
@Andy-yr4ls5 жыл бұрын
Can I get the name of your "oak" supplier?
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
You may... Listen for a chainsaw and you will be in business. This was a tree the electrical company was taking down in someones yard and we asked them if we can have the log. They loaded it for us. My dad used his grizzly bandsaw to cut this. He used the carter sled. If you are looking for boards, pallets are pretty good, but a lot of work. I have a local wood flooring place that throws out scraps for free.. Also you can hit up cabinet shops in your area. Dig wayyyyyyyyyy back in my videos and you will see one of my first videos on where to find free wood... Outside that.. I havent bought any oak.
@tomnovak77315 жыл бұрын
You're right Andy. Wonder if this is the giant acorn oak we have around us?
@bryansnow38473 жыл бұрын
Here for this comment, that’s black walnut bro
@crackerjack33595 жыл бұрын
Did you treat each side or only one side
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
I did both sides
@kllgrogto58383 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to use those as cutting boards?
@WoodenCreationz3 жыл бұрын
Yep a board covered in beeswax would be fine.. In regards to one using wood glue... I probably wouldn't do that if it was me... I would seal it with beeswax... Let it throughly dry for a few months... Then sand and scrape and get it back down to bare wood... Then use a butcher block or solution made for cutting boards... 😉
@kllgrogto58383 жыл бұрын
@@WoodenCreationz thank you great video
@doityourselfpakistan65354 жыл бұрын
How long should we wait for endgrain slab to be used aa coffe table?
@WoodenCreationz4 жыл бұрын
They have calculators and moisture meters to help determine how dry the wood is... Your going to want to seal it and probably wait probably 4 months with it drying either in a dry area or stickered... but seal the ends as fast as possible and it will stop the cracks and checks.
@christyj245 жыл бұрын
Will the bark stay on or do you have to do something to it?
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
All the bark has stayed on a year later no issue... 👊🏻😜
@christyj245 жыл бұрын
@@WoodenCreationz Awesome!! A friend made some wood cookies for a baby shower. They put candle votives on them and some fake greenery. They looked really nice but they are unfinished. He gave them to me after the party and I need to know how to keep them nice without a gloss finish on them. I prefer a matte finish. Thank you for your suggestions!!
@Ferndalien5 жыл бұрын
Do you think paraffin wax would work as well as beeswax?
@WoodenCreationz5 жыл бұрын
It should work the same
@drycreek32043 жыл бұрын
It'd be hard to get a log in a microwave!
@Actias19743 жыл бұрын
Your control suggests all results are incapable of being used to make any definitive statement.
@kc6969692 жыл бұрын
I am sure it is Walnut, not Oak.
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA4 жыл бұрын
The other thing is to let small diameter logs of limbs dry before slicing into cookies.
@randywells46743 жыл бұрын
Looks like walnut
@timgiles94134 жыл бұрын
Axle grease :)
@Hagg506 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's oak.....pretty sure it's walnut.