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2 Clicks Out: FZ-09 MT-09 Stock vs Upgraded Street Suspension Intro

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Dave Moss Tuning

Dave Moss Tuning

Күн бұрын

INTRO: full video here davemosstuning...
The Yamaha FZ-09 / MT-09 is an extremely popular motorcycle here in California. The stock suspension is fair-to-middling, but the bike actually deserves proper suspension bits.

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@mikaeldelta1378
@mikaeldelta1378 4 жыл бұрын
one MEGA thank U is not enough...!!!! There is always space for improvement! Everyone can move a step up in the ladder of moto-knowledge by watching and learning from you !!! Is the least I/we can say, for the knowledge and the deep details that you are transmitted to us via this KZfaq channel. Moral lesson: there is always space for improvement and with your experience, everyone can climb one step UP in the ladder of knowledge in the motorcycle world. "Discover" you almost 11 years ago by "on the throttle tv" and still learning and understanding the suspension environment...!!! Thank you very much from sunny Greece!!!
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 4 жыл бұрын
Thak you Mikael - I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to write a comment and for watching DMT videos since OTT days! Thank you for using the content to improve yourself and your motorcycle(s) over those years :)
@Impervium1090
@Impervium1090 4 жыл бұрын
Lol at the zoom in on the chicken strips
@DSfull
@DSfull 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer to call mine "safety margin"
@Bryanj2222
@Bryanj2222 4 жыл бұрын
@@DSfull I think he was going for the brand of tire lol
@DSfull
@DSfull 4 жыл бұрын
Bryan J Yes I know but still :)
@johnDukemaster
@johnDukemaster 4 жыл бұрын
Can't beat experience!
@r1deftone
@r1deftone 10 ай бұрын
Dave is the best.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@firefoxisgreat
@firefoxisgreat 4 жыл бұрын
Medieval stone thrower up in this bitch
@Bisse_Elison
@Bisse_Elison 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Mt - 09 Sp. 2019. Öhlins fully adjustable. Kayaba in front. Super competent. Trick is to set i just right 😅
@radoslawnowicki2868
@radoslawnowicki2868 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice mt09
@aaronspicer1093
@aaronspicer1093 3 жыл бұрын
Dave!! Did you do a video series on your tracer ride through the country?
@MYMYChannel-1
@MYMYChannel-1 3 жыл бұрын
i think yes because my pressure tyre, is bounce when 32 psi...but more that that ,36psi isnmore stable no bounce when corner... but i scared tyre cant stand... i bring touring bike and brinh all heavy equipment, tools and some lube inside the box...and have top box and side box
@nigelsenchez
@nigelsenchez 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave.
@baroncvg6592
@baroncvg6592 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Dave
@chr6150
@chr6150 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr.Moss ! I weigh 260-270 pound fully equipped and 5,9 foot tall. I have the new MT 09 2021 . Not the SP Version .. I don’t do tracks. 80% city 20% funrides in curvy Austria . Do you recommend at least a rear damper because of my weight, like Wilbers or Öhlins ? Greets from Europe
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Christian. Yes, a rear damper would be required so your choices are Nitron, K-Tech, Ohlins, Wilbers etc. Go with European brands for parts and servicing.
@racerdaveracerdave
@racerdaveracerdave 4 жыл бұрын
Dave's the best
@nobbystyles4807
@nobbystyles4807 3 жыл бұрын
this guy is a wizard. pretty sure when i get my mt09 im gonna need some help fixing the stock suspension....
@kevinevilman
@kevinevilman 3 жыл бұрын
The guy at 4:49min, what headlight is it? I love it!
@h0ij0i
@h0ij0i 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ad5ddLGIstTSc6M.html its the "SpeedGhoul" Headlamp from Kenstomoto.
@zgjfinance2796
@zgjfinance2796 Жыл бұрын
Can someone help me..? Just touching the suspension on my used 2021 MT-09 SP. basically stock, went to adjust slow speed compression on the front fork and only one side clicks, the other(right brake side) is stuck and turns the whole nut rather than click the inside adjuster. I don’t feel like that’s right or maybe I’m dumb. Read the entire manual and didn’t find anything on suspension.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
The question is if the screw is stuck on the maximum or minimum setting? Hold the nut with a 14mm wrench/spanner and gently try clockwise or counter clockwise to free the screw. The metal is soft on the screw so get a tight fit with the screwdriver.
@zgjfinance2796
@zgjfinance2796 Жыл бұрын
@@catalystreactionsbw it’s stuck; just had a suspension tech look at it. HOPEFULLY that is the issue with my front end as to why it’s so wobbly. He’s gonna change the ‘cap’ on it and fluid in both forks. Fingers crossed
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
@@zgjfinance2796 Thanks for the follow up!
@zgjfinance2796
@zgjfinance2796 Жыл бұрын
@@catalystreactionsbw and thanks for the reply; the dealership where I bought the bike has a service dept and they would t touch the suspension at all.. dude was afraid to even look at it as if it were black magic or something.
@douglasalexander4348
@douglasalexander4348 3 жыл бұрын
Great ! What make of oil (10w) do you use ? There is a big difference in CST between makes for same weight. CST seems to be a better reference, wish manufactures would stamp that on bottles. Maybe I’m getting that wrong ?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 3 жыл бұрын
cSt is a far better reference tool and if you look for the technical data by Googling a fork oil viscosity chart, you will find most fork oils aggregated.
@CrzyMFT
@CrzyMFT 4 жыл бұрын
Salmon Falls!!!??? I missed Dave AGAIN!
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar 4 жыл бұрын
New rider. Just got my license. Looking at this bike as my first. Maybe a 7 instead of the nine. Should I avoid it due to the poor suspension? Or just figure replacing the suspension as part of the cost of purchase?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to our sport and congrats on passing your license! Budget bikes get budget suspension. Which one are you most comfortable on? Which one gives you more foot contact. Which one feel natural with the handlebars and levers? All questions that need to be answered.
@TheMcTimzo
@TheMcTimzo 4 жыл бұрын
I got a 7 in the same situation as a new rider. I bought it used with about 7k km on it and the bike has 2 problems for me, really. The first is suspension and the other is on/off throttle jerkiness (because of the fueling). Both can be fixed, I did Dave's fix on the front forks and it is a must do if you get the bike. Rear shock has to be replaced - I am bouncing on the road with the stock one constantly. The throttle issues can be fixed with a tune. But, as Dave said, ride the bike(s), test them, see what fits best
@shannonchurchill4556
@shannonchurchill4556 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 FZ-09 which had the terrible suspension. I spent the cash for a Penske rear shock, stiffer front springs with a revalve. The stock shock is junk. Period. The whole bike is much more confident than it was stock.
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar 4 жыл бұрын
@@catalystreactionsbw unfortunately Ive only ever ridden 1 motorcycle... the Harley in my class. I didnt like the seating position, it made my hip flexers cramp. Thanks for the advice.
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMcTimzo ill definitely do that.
@mikeg3553
@mikeg3553 2 жыл бұрын
Was this Salmon Falls road near Folsom Ca. ??? If so, will you be coming back through?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 2 жыл бұрын
There will be a few test and tune runs there in the next 4 months. I will post up on my website schedule when the next one is.
@trungkis5294
@trungkis5294 2 жыл бұрын
I weigh 65kg. Can you guide me to install compression and rebound of Ohlins 535 on MT-09 ? Please and thank you !
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 2 жыл бұрын
Set static sag at 12-15mm. Set compression in the middle of the range, then use suggested setting for rebound to start.
@danstaszko8039
@danstaszko8039 3 жыл бұрын
recommendation on adjustments for a 110lb ride, fz09, stock with 22k miles
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 3 жыл бұрын
Remote Tuning services are $40 for email settings or $80 for 30 minutes of video 1-1 consult. Please email me - dave@dave mosstuning.com so I can send you all the questions and information I need should you choose to want to work with me.
@koschar185
@koschar185 Жыл бұрын
Hello Dave from Greece.I want an upgrade for my rear suspension tracer 900 2020.My ride is only in city and commute and just need an update because iam fat..130kg. Do you suggest any suspension for me? thanks
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Nitron offers the best value for money and their NTR R1 shock with preload and rebound would be the best option.
@koschar185
@koschar185 Жыл бұрын
@@catalystreactionsbw thanks for the answer Dave.And i add the Hydraulic Preload Adjuster or this is optional?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
@@koschar185 Hydraulic preload is indeed optional. For many, well worth the $$ investment.
@DEGMOTOV
@DEGMOTOV 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say it, It doesn't seem to me at all that you apply the same force on the back of the bike on 00:37 vs 1:14 With that difference, of course, the guy doesn't bounce as much. But hey, they seem happy in the end. Are you going to do an MT 09 SP version video? With the fast compression damping/slow compression damping?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 3 жыл бұрын
Difference in force = low speed vs high speed assessment. When an SP comes into the canopy space for adjustment we will film it.
@Daniel-km9ee
@Daniel-km9ee 4 жыл бұрын
Hello dave do you think a fzr600 from around 1990 is good for a first time trackbike?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniil. That era 600 had a great frame and reasonable engine. 20w or 30w in the forks with the correct springs would be a cheap and easy upgrade. Difficult part would be finding a more "modern" shock for it. The 06 GSXR 600/750 Shock (has a horizontal reservior and a yellow spring). Same goes for the 06 R6 shock (horizontal res and a red spring). Those two seem to be the best fit from what I can tell. But you may still have to swap spring because those shocks are coming from bikes that are much lighter than the 600.
@Daniel-km9ee
@Daniel-km9ee 4 жыл бұрын
@@catalystreactionsbw Thanks
@KJRAILFAN
@KJRAILFAN 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave. I am new to the motorcycle world. I plan on taking the msf course and get my license in the next month or so. I am leaning towards a mv f3 800 for my first bike. I live in the central valley about an hour os so east of San Fran. Would the f3 800 be a good bike for my first bike? When I get a bike, could I bring it to you for ergonomics and suspension fitting? Thnx.
@peterkiro2132
@peterkiro2132 Жыл бұрын
SP model may be😅
@jardona
@jardona 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Dave. What front fork suspension upgrade would you recommend for 2020 Yamaha XSR700?
@keykey3014
@keykey3014 2 жыл бұрын
Showa bff is the best
@QuietStormX
@QuietStormX 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@MT-09_SP
@MT-09_SP 3 жыл бұрын
How do I get to the full video? I subscribed for a month.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 3 жыл бұрын
You should be able to follow the link provided in the video. When you log in, find the video and open it. Refresh the page and the YT player will change to the Vimeo player
@MT-09_SP
@MT-09_SP 3 жыл бұрын
@@catalystreactionsbw Thank you so much, you are awesome. I couldn't set my rear shock properly. Now the bike feels planted to the ground 👌💪.
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