2 Frame Mating Nucs... Splitting A 5 Framer In Half (Double 5 Frame Nucs)

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5 жыл бұрын

Last winter, I was looking for a new style of mating box for my queen mating yard when I stumbled across a video by Barnyard Bees. In David's video, he's using 2 frame mating nucs and made them look very efficient. From there I played with this idea and decided to try splitting 5 framers in half. Tune in to see how I made them and to hear my thoughts.
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@davidhines7081 Жыл бұрын

I like the idea of having a double 2 frame set up since it is more stable in the wind.

@angieh.527 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that you are always finding ways to use what you have instead of recommending an expensive gadget. Sometimes we need to spend money in beekeeping but it's nice to see where we can make other things work.

@JCsBees 3 жыл бұрын

@Angie H. I really enjoy trying to use stuff I have vs spending more $$. Glad you enjoy it too.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I appreciate everyone tuning in to watch this together. What did you think of the "Premier" feature? If there is any questions please just ask.

@chancetolbert4852 5 жыл бұрын

Between you, barnyard bees, dirtrooster, and Mr. Ed. Pretty sure i know more about bees than any PhD professor in Louisiana. I am just prepping for my own personal first hives. But have been around them a while. And i think barnyard bees has something here with the 2 frame nuc idea

@KayAteChef 2 жыл бұрын

A PhD will research what beekeepers are complaining about and look at what beekeepers have been doing about it and the PhD may become very knowledgeable about a very specific aspect of beekeeping or rather... some aspect of the lifecycle of bees. A researcher will not necessarily know all the operational details of how to run an apiary profitably but they may come to understand a specific problem very well and develop a solution. A beekeeper may not understand much at all beyond what is profitable. I think in the main, researchers and beekeepers overlap. Look at Bob Binnie. The man is scholar and a shrewd businessman but his priorities are the operations and not the research. Although he seems to be prioritising the publishing of everything he knows at the moment. A researcher's priorities are research, and not selling honey. As time rolls on, research becomes more specialised. The beekeeper and the researcher diverge. No more Brother Adam. Or rather, the modern Brother Adam is just a professional breeder who relies on specialist research, just as a honey producer relies on specialist breeding. It takes all sorts.

@stephendunn8782 5 жыл бұрын

I think this is a great idea. Multi use equipment is the way to go. I will definitely be building many of these this year.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I agree, the more uses the better.Why limit what you have, it just don't make since. I think you will be happy with them. Plus if you have strong colonies to split, you can make a ton of splits with 2 framers.

@anabelaramos8399 3 жыл бұрын

I am also doing the same with the 10 frames if the colonie is small. I divide it and give them more space when they need it. The 2 frames are great, 5 as well. I love those dividers that we can put in boxes. An old friend bee keeper says it doesn't have to be wood, some hard plastic material is enough. For ladies who prefer scissors and are not carpenters. He understands women.

@dalehursey2377 2 жыл бұрын

I read a comment about blowing the 2 frames out so fast but in Barnyard Bee Video he only using on frame of bees with brood and the other frame is blank or with just a starter strip. This allows more time for bees to build up the nuc and not so called blow it out so fast. Plus if you do this with no queen your looking at 30 days for them to raise a queen. Just my thoughts and I am going to be doing like several 2 frame nucs this year. I love your 5 Frame idea for sure. Looks like a win win. PS glad you got all your videos back as well. Love your videos.

@creatorediillusioni 5 жыл бұрын

Great idea! Well done

@nailladi1 5 жыл бұрын

Lookin good, love it! I have plenty of feed bags as well! Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing all these tip with us.

@AntennaBee 5 жыл бұрын

Jason that’s a great idea I love the reusable set up

@CastleHives 3 жыл бұрын

Slick design. Thanks for sharing this.

@BlythewoodBeeCompany 5 жыл бұрын

Great video Jason! Thank you so much for putting in the time to teach us how to do these sort of tasks.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Glad your enjoying them. Thanks for watching

@jman414999 5 жыл бұрын

saves space and htey hives can share some heat in the cooler spring nights. I have a couple of NUCs I will be doing this to. Great video Jason.

@billbyrd9845 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@stanholloway8774 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason...I can tell you that David at Barnyard Bees is a sharp guy and he's a hustler...works a 12 hour night shift and works bees in the daytime. I use 2 frame boxes, have for years now. I'm a farmer, build all my own stuff, and I put a jar feeder on the outside rear of the box. It meadures 5" x 6" and has a screened bottom to eliminate drainage from temperature fluctuations. Its attached to the bottom rear of the box and the bees in the nuc access it thru a 3/4" hole that doubles as a vent. I have these on all my nucs, 2 and 4 frame. The bees explode...but I live in Central Florida, today it was 80 and I had a fire built...the 2 frame is the way to go, shoot the feed to them and you won't believe how they're gonna make more bees. I've done this all my life but enjoy your videos....you're doing just fine. Keep after it son...you got this!

@billychaney4581 5 жыл бұрын

So from the 2 frame nuc after the new queen starts laying you move them to a 5 frame & start all over in the 2 frame?

@SMILIES69US 5 жыл бұрын

Great idea Jason!

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@flatwoodsbeefarm1015 5 жыл бұрын

Cool video. Thanks for sharing one of your systems. It amazes me how differently Beekeepers do things but it all turns out the same.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. There are many options in beekeeping you just have to find what works for you. Best of luck with your bees.

@funfrankie8990 5 жыл бұрын

Brother that is simply brilliant!! I have turned 10 frame supers into queen castles but never thought of using a 5 frame... I will be this year! Enjoy all of your videos! keep sharing and thanks for sharing!!

@stevesoutdoorworld4340 3 жыл бұрын

Great Info Jason thanks so much!

@reneemoorefrost4871 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent idea! I plan to do this in 2019

@sandraanderson1786 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jason, I was in the process of doing the 2 Frame & 5 Frame from Barnyard Bees today and happened to see your post. Due to not being really handy in the woodwork arena I will be using your idea....really appreciate it..

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

@Sandra Anderson Glad the video helped you out. If it helps you out more you may be able to glue shims on each side of the divider to keep it in place vs cutting out the grove for it to slide down into. Best of luck!

@allenc2289 5 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the helpful video

@drewhillfarm1830 5 жыл бұрын

I like your idea of making a five frame nuc into 2- two frame nucs. Thanks! I’m going to try that.

@familyhearingandbalancecen9777 4 жыл бұрын

Nice idea for using the coffee lid for the entrance pieces! I like the idea of the 5 frame nuc split to two, 2 frame units. I used your idea and took a ten frame box and made it into 2 five frames with a. Divider like yours and trying the plastic material attached to the center bird like you did. Made splits with queen cells last week and will let you know how it goes.

@mattpeneguy7812 5 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video Jason! I made 15 boxes with dividers, very similar to what you show. I have been collecting our chicken and dog food bags to serve as inner covers and your idea to staple them to the divider board is brilliant. I am definitely going to do that when I get the chance. Keep these great videos coming!

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, Good to see you in the comments! About the staples, they did not hold up for very long, that's why I attached the shim to help secure them to the divider. The feed bags wanted to pull over the staples. Sounds like your diving right in with 15 boxes, that would be 30 split.

@beckieeldred5816 4 жыл бұрын

Good job

@stevesoutdoorworld4340 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason.Back in the 80s i used 3 frames nucs and found i was working my ass off because the queens would blow them out two fast for me.I only used them for one year then changed out to 5 frame nucs and never looked back.Thats my two cents.Have a great 2019 season and i enjoy your vids.

@jimbarth9859 3 жыл бұрын

Nice tricks, Jason. I watch the same barnyard bees video on to frame nukes. Love your additional thoughts.

@markspc1 5 жыл бұрын

Great use of a nuc !

@frankcorbett6227 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason love your videos made a few 6 frame nucs last year split them into 3 frame painted them different colour at each end gave them queen cells most mated one didnt just pulled out divider and had no problem combing colony great way to expand i live in ireland regards Frank

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Frank, Glad to hear of your success with them. Keep it up!

@loislangley2975 5 жыл бұрын

I think it is a good idea as it saves space and time while giving one time to get bigger setups ready.

@fishmut 4 жыл бұрын

I think this is a great idea to get colonies going with less boxes to start with. I know they can grow really fast so in that case I’ll give them a 5 frame nuc of there own then to a hive body when that’s at its limit. I’m guessing there so many reasons for going 2 frames however I do find this very interesting. Thanks for sharing awesome video as always.

@timlewis9873 5 жыл бұрын

Good idea, plus it's more stable.

@michaeljudd2797 5 жыл бұрын

Great Video, Thanks. I bought one just like that last year and I used it to put frames of fresh (under 3 days old) and a bunch of bees and both reared new queens. Very easy.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Where did you by a nuc with a divider? Glad this setup worked for you too.

@michaeljudd2797 5 жыл бұрын

Jason Chrisman I hope this will be helpful! The answer is Neviere at Valensole web: Neviere.fr. I think Thorne in the UK also have something like that too. Good Luck It really does work. However one has to watch carefully for when it is necessary to move both sides into a bigger Nucs or a full hive with partitions.

@homerecker55 5 жыл бұрын

ZGreat video Jason. I am going to build one this winter. I may paint each entrance a different color to help queen get back to hive.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. I never thought about different colored disc. Good idea!

@sigma_kappa 4 жыл бұрын

You are the best!

@JCsBees 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jcs6347 5 жыл бұрын

Jason, I used old gallon size tea jugs to store and dispense my syrup. I found several years ago, if I put in about a tablespoon of honey be healthy in each gallon and make sure it is mixed, it doesn't mold for a much longer time, if at all.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Great tip! The only issue is I don't use honey B healthy. The reason is when it's used the smell travels and before long every bee in the neighborhood knows where to go eat. I used to add all kinds of essential oils until I observed that. I have seen sugar syrup recipes that include vinegar to prevent mold though. I think the vinegar also offers other benefits to the bees but not sure what they are.

@osiris031 5 жыл бұрын

@@JCsBees Haha, I've experienced the same. I left the cap off a gallon jug of syrup with honey-b-healthy in it and my truck was swarmed within minutes.

@rsikumardasa1983 5 жыл бұрын

You are one smart dude

@DooBees-ub1me 4 жыл бұрын

another good video.

@Guitar2Man1963 4 жыл бұрын

Quick little Queen Castle. Nice Mod!

@williamstidham1443 5 жыл бұрын

Love your channel. New beekeeper here. I have 5 hives I am trying to get through to spring. Will be trying 2 frame mating nucs this spring.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the 5 hives! Glad you enjoy the videos. Best of luck getting to spring.

@dfishman76 5 жыл бұрын

Like that idea

@jamesritchie8540 4 жыл бұрын

3 framer is a better balance between a 5 frame and a 2 framer. Divide a 10 frame box into 3 compartments, works better...its a little harder to physically remove frames in a 3 framer if the partitions stick up above the box with inner covers between the partitions. You can winter a 3 framer in North GA. They do not get as crowded as fast but they will soon enough. Can remove 1 frame to reduce crowding without hurting the nuc.

@carldaniels3659 5 жыл бұрын

that's why you are paid the BIG $. good idea D R and a good building block J C .

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Sadly there is no big money involved. lol Glad you like the tip though!

@WoolieBsApiary 5 жыл бұрын

I built 3 deep frame double mating nucs. I love them after using the 2 framers. I found that the 2 framers could swarm or starve or get honey bound really easy. When the queen rearing season is coming to a close i just sell one queen and merge them into one 6 frame nuc.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

You do have to keep a close eye on the 2 framers but this setup worked very well for me.

@tonywestsbees6042 5 жыл бұрын

Dividing a 5 frame box into two 2 frame NUCs in my opinion is easier to work with than the 10 frame boxes I see divided into four 2 frame boxes. It is just easier to handle and you can keep the entrances further apart. I like the two frame NUCs but not a dedicated two frame boxes which seems like a waist of material and too many things to handle. A divided 5 frame box makes better sense. Keep things simple and more standardized. I use the cattle tags too, I can move the number tag with the queen as she is put into different boxes and record keeping is easier. Great video.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I don't mind the queen castles and really haven't had issues with them. I think placement is very important when setting up a mating yard. I like using trees as land markers. I think that greatly helps reduce drifting. I forgot you used cattle tags too. They work very well.

@kirkhlavaty6564 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. If you enjoy building, try D Coates nucs for a sheet of 1/2 plywood. Can be modified to a 2 frame nuc. Four per sheet of plywood. I use a $25 pneumatic staple gun from harbor freight to assemble with Titbbond III

@greghill9958 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@timcaron9049 5 жыл бұрын

I think that is a great idea Jason. this method has so many opportunities. If you are into selling nucs, you get 3 starter hives for the price of one. I really enjoyed this video. Bee Safe. Tim

@jonathanwalker6521 5 жыл бұрын

did it, well waiting for the spring weather to really turn into spring weather( 27 @3.30 in OK), but I have my mating boxes built and ready to go, but they,re 6 frames split. Thanks for the video

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Best of luck with the weather.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

@OkieRob (Not sure you seen my reply before we were cut off) Never had a problem with queen castles and I have used them for a few years now. I actually think they are better for early splits as they keep each other warm

@mars1952 5 жыл бұрын

I like the idea of reversing the number tag until the queen is mated.

@familyhearingandbalancecen9777 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea sharing where Jasón! I like how you put the divider in. How many 2-3 frame queen starters do you run through the year? Nice idea as well on the feeder! Can you show how you made the feeder and the brake line?

@JimWellman 5 жыл бұрын

*F'in genius!!!*

@drewhillfarm1830 5 жыл бұрын

I think that I’ll try heavy canvas instead of my plastic feed bags. I already use the canvas for inner covers. It works well for me.

@OkieRob 5 жыл бұрын

I just purchased some nucs with migratory covers, I may do this to a couple this spring to get some queens mated.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I think you will like them. Keep me posted though.

@OkieRob 5 жыл бұрын

@@JCsBees I have a medium frame queen castle but i really don't like it. It has been hit and miss with success. But it comes in handy when you miss a swarmed hive and get multiple frames of queen cells or have a hive with swarm cells started. I focused more on swarm prevention this year to get more honey production instead of making more hives. Seems i live in an area that doesn't like honey or want bees so i have an excess of both.Lol

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

My swarm prevention was splits and I didn't bother to extract any honey this year. I have a small market for it but I see more opportunities in selling bees/ nucs. So your saying you don't have a market? Why isn't anyone interested in it?

@OkieRob 5 жыл бұрын

@@JCsBees super small community with extra thrifty people

@OkieRob 5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Roberts I don't do Facebook.

@RoughAndWretchedRAW 5 жыл бұрын

I just started beekeeping last summer. I bought 2- 10 frame hives last year then did two late season nucs. I wanted to just propagate but my wife decided she wanted honey so my plans got held off a year. I ran into barnyards page also. This year I need to build bees. Lot's of bees. I'll be running 10 - 2 frame hives minimum and grafting queens. May even build more. If one queen up here can build a good 5 frames of hive in a season then ten queens should be able to build me population for 5 more 10 frames by fall. 20 queens should be able to do that before July flow. with another 5 by fall. I indoor winter so i'm gonna try winter the two frames also.

@SavageBees Жыл бұрын

Hi Jason, was looking for a video on how to convert a five frame nuc into two frame to help with reducing the amount of equipment needed. Great video! One thing I would like to know more on is your feeding bottles on the top, better than making large hole on the top for the mason jar lids. Do you have a video on how you make these, I apologize if you have, I was not able to find it.

@stanholloway8774 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, there's definately a learning curve on these phones and computers and all. My grandsons want to start a channel for me but I just ain't really got time. I'm in my late 60's Jason and work a little over 600 acres here everyday. I haven't ever had a public job, we just do it all here everyday, 7 days a week every week. I raise cows, bees , vegetables and hay. I've always run everything as a cottage industry because I don't like and don't trust the goverment to get involved in a damn thing I do. If they tell you that they just want to help you...they're lying to you son. They only come to create more bullshit so they have a job tomorrow. Just keep trying to learn everything you can, and always remember that bees are just bugs...they're a wild thing that we've put in boxes. Don't let folks sell you shit that you don't really need and that there are entire industries built up around the latest and greatest...like I said, you got gumption, you're gonna be just fine in this business..

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure you know this but I farm full time as well. I manage a 200 acre farm that we lease just up the road. Currently I am running 67 head of beef cattle and just shy of 80 chickens. We are a grass fed operation. I am into the homesteading type lifestyle, I love it. There is nothing better than working with the land to create an income. I feel the same about the government, I am so sick of seeing political crap everywhere I look. The wife likes to watch the world news and I hate it. I told her many times there is no beneficial information coming from this. I'll watch the local news in the morning before I head out to do chores but that my limit on that. lol To bad your so far away, it sounds like we would get along very well.

@stanholloway8774 5 жыл бұрын

Jason Chrisman ..hello son, meant to answer you earlier but had 2 cows prolapse and have been working on that all day. I didn't know for sure that you farmed but figured you did cause the sun kinda burns that look into folks that do. There's a lot of things on this KZfaq about bees tho, a lot is bullshit but theres a few really good ones too. I like Fatbeeman, Micheal Bush, you, Barnyard Bees, Joe May and a couple others. But like I said, you got it going on, just keep on doing what you're doing. I just got done for the day, gotta go in and check cause I think one of the cows broke a couple of my ribs this morning...they get testy about fixing the prolapse and all. Good luck to you Son...

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Stan I had a heifer calve a few years ago and got to experience a prolapse myself, what a mess that was. I called the vet and helped him push it back in. What a job that was. A few days later another farmer told me to coat the prolapse with brown sugar that it would make it smaller and easier to push back in. You ever heard that? Did you have to stitch it in? How's the ribs? Be safe!

@stanholloway8774 5 жыл бұрын

Jason Chrisman I use sugar if theres a lot of swelling...you gotta keep the cow standing up, a squeeze chute works best and that takes the pressure off her abdomen. Coat the uterus in sugar, get a pair of the wifes panty hose and put the prolapse in the panty hose...that keeps the sugar in place and keeps the flys off till the swelling goes down enough to push it back inside. If it starts to come back out, then you'll have to put a couple of stitches in her. If your wife is like mine shes gonna raise hell about the panty hose but I don't pay a whole lot of attention to her...

@cluelessbeekeeping1322 5 жыл бұрын

Bad ass!

@jamesritchie8540 4 жыл бұрын

if you like the 2 frame nuc setup then use a 10 frame body and divide it into 4 compartments. Personally I don't care for them too small a space...after 1 or 2 frames of brood emerges then it becomes too crowded. If you remove 1 frame then you have taken half the nucs resources...too much..... Also, too small to over winter...if in a 10 frame box then you can remove one partition and make it into 2x5 frame nucs for winter. But trying to run a 2 frame nuc all season for mating is not easy. If you have several 2 framers, you can shake bees out of them into a package and start a new colony that way to reduce crowding. 2 framers are basically good for temporary queen storage and cell emergence.

@rodenranch6291 5 жыл бұрын

Wont blow over as easy, good thinkin!

@wbrian 4 жыл бұрын

This is a GREAT video. Well explained, too. I dont know where to get a "feedbag" from. Any other ideas on a replacement item for this? Also, how long do you keep them in this setup until they graduate to a full hive or a full nuc? Thanks! Brian @ Best Day Ever Bees

@jeremymonroe3410 4 жыл бұрын

Tyvek house wrap. Look for construction sites and see if they have off cuts going in the trash. Or go to the home store and buy a little bit. Talk to neighbors. Surely someone has dogs and you can find a plastic feed sack.

@pan60 5 жыл бұрын

i start off using quen castles ( four two frame boxs in one large ten frame box ) and found it to be a pain. But when need they will get used. i make most all of my boxs and have been makeing and useing a three frame box. i like the three frame over the two. being able to have one box works best for me as well. if i had to choose between a two frame single or a split nuc, i still would go with the single.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you found what you like. There is a ton of options for us beekeepers and we have to follow what we are comfortable with.

@KevinsNorthernExposure 5 жыл бұрын

Jason, you discovered the same as I (I did a vid also)....the two frame box was very tippy in the wind.....converting a 5 frame nuc into a double two frame seems the simplest way to go. Duck cloth works well as an inner cover...but more expensive than your feed bags...but it doesn't flip up like the feed bags do.... I like your "vents on the bottom board, more because I found if my feeders leaked, my bees drowned as there was no way to drain any rain water or sugar syrup that drips down. The doubles are tough that way because we generally "tip" the hive one direction or the other towards the entrance....can't do that with a side by site with entrances on opposite ends.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, Would you like to share the link to your video? We'd love to see it.

@KevinsNorthernExposure 5 жыл бұрын

oh...it's nothing special.... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qpmZodhltd-Zqqc.html and here it is in use (checking for mated queens) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sN58qaqr39Oom4U.html

@AlecL 5 жыл бұрын

I have only ever split hives once before (new to beekeeping), how long would you leave them in a two frame colony? Once they build up a two frame colony do you put them in a nuc box or 8-10 frame box?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

They stay in the 2 framer until mated and have capped brood. From there I do move them to a 5 framer. Once they fill it they are moved to 10 framers.

@420lito 4 жыл бұрын

It seems to work for you. I like the idea! I imagine there has to be a slightly lower success rate due to pheromones in the same box? Unless the propolize the barrier between chambers well.

@JCsBees 4 жыл бұрын

They worked out great for me. No issues at all!

@KevinsNorthernExposure 5 жыл бұрын

Another Q: I've made my double two frames, but with a solid divider. So my question is about the removable divider....once removing the divider to allow for 5 frame nuc, how are you dealing with the propolis the bees will surely stick into the channel for the next time you want to use a divider? Sure seems like a good plan....but bees have a way of muffing up a good plan.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, I am releasing a Q & A video on my split nuc box today and I answer this question.

@myrmecofourmis 5 жыл бұрын

Very good design, quite cheap too. How deep are these boxes they seem quite shallow?

@jegc49 Жыл бұрын

Hey JC I really Love that idea and your design. I would like to design some of the nuc boxes for my yard here in Pennsylvania. Do you have a layout if you dont mind me using your idea.

@JCsBees Жыл бұрын

Hello. Glad you like the design, feel free to give it a try. Sorry no plans though. Just make sure you cut your dado before you assemble boxes and dado is centered on each end. Good luck!!

@chipfriday8166 5 жыл бұрын

Will you also start a small patty of pollen substitute 2-3 weeks before you expect your local plants to "spring" into flower to push up brood starts?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Usually I add the patties to the hives before I split them. That way, a few weeks later when it's time to make splits I have lots of brood.

@anibis485 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. Good video and good system. Just a question; can we touch a virgin queen to put it into the cage? Txs and rds

@jcs6347 5 жыл бұрын

Jason, what were the temps day and nite with you started using the nuc 2x2's? I tried the same thing two years ago, but it didn't do well. I am thinking it was too early in the season to start.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I am not sure off the top of my head but I do know we had many chilly nights after they were made up. I am sure there was a few nights in the high 30's. Maybe you didn't add enough bees to keep brood warm? One of the advantages to this setup is having colonies in one box they both help keep each other warm.

@jloftin60 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Jason. Can you explain the sugar water nipple?

@JCsBees 4 жыл бұрын

The sugar water nipple is on a mason jar and is used to fed the bees. If you do a search on mason jar bee feeders you may find my video on them.

@kenthompson6539 5 жыл бұрын

I did this and when one queen became a drone layer, ikilled her and united them and they killed the good queen, leaving them queenless, so I think you need a vent between the too the same as the snelgrove crown board.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Nah they worked very well for me. Venting between the 2 sections would surely cause problems.

@kathyhathaway8823 Жыл бұрын

I like your five frame better. Thanks

@rossgurlen9761 5 жыл бұрын

So if I split a Purchased nuc will I be able to use the Mated queen that comes with the nuc how would that work by the way love your videos they’ve been very helpful for me

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

It can be done but I do not suggest it because it's kinda tricky and I wouldn't want anything to go wrong.

@shane_mane 5 жыл бұрын

Great video Jason ! How many Bees do you have per side?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. As far as a number, just make sure the frames a covered. The more the better but having not enough can take them longer to build up.

@rossgurlen9761 5 жыл бұрын

Hey JC it’s Ross again I’ve been trying to get somebody to do a series on installing a Five frame nuc in a ten hive body from spring to Winter I think it would be very helpful probably get you a lot of views

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

As we get closer to spring, I will see what I can do about a video to help you out. Thanks for the suggestion, Ross.

@swordfishkind2704 5 жыл бұрын

do you think you can remove the dividing wall if they seal everything with propolis

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

These colonies never get strong enough to glue in the divider. If they did then I didn't manage them correctly. Ideally you would transfer them to a bigger box after you see the queen is mated.

@bub1683 3 жыл бұрын

I like it. Question very little bees in the box, is it why you dont put the cell directly in there? They cant keep her warm untill she hatches?

@scottpierson7495 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Jason, I stole this Idea on your Nucs this year works great better than just a 2 frame box, because of the ability to expand if one doesn’t return. I have feed bags as well but had double bubble insulation used that. We are going to do that queen swap I need your email again, going to be about 4 weeks, I’m having surgery on my leg in couple days🥵. But I will email you. Thank You, Scott

@JCsBees 3 жыл бұрын

I take it the nuc idea worked well for you? I like it, it a lot. It helps to cut down the equipment needed until queen get mated and I prefer deep frames over mini nuc frames to judge the queen performance. My email can be found in most of my video descriptions. I don't really like sharing it in the comment because then I get a bunch of spam. Check with me a couple weeks before your ready to make sure I still have queens to trade. I was hoping you were really soon because I had a couple to spare but I understand your health is more important. Best of luck with surgery.

@scottpierson7495 3 жыл бұрын

@@JCsBees Thanks Jason I just installed 32 virgins today, so when In 3 weeks I will send you some of these fatties, beautiful colors they are an orange blonde color, and came from a queen that is just calm gentle and putting up loads of honey and in her second year her hygienic test was awesome. But I will send you a couple and we will see how they do. It’s ok if you don’t have any to send back. I will keep you up dated when I’m up and about again. Thank you Jason for all you do in the Bee world.

@eddienaude9117 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason. I see you introduce virgin queens and not cells. Why do you do it and how long are the nucs queenless before the introduction? Do you release the queen after a few days or is there candy in the cage?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Eddie, I introduce virgins vs cells because I use my incubator to finish my cells. I like to get a visual on her too before introducing. The nucs are made up once a queen emerges in the incubator then I wait 24 hours before I install her. I always manually release but the time varies. Sometimes it's 12 hours later sometimes 24. It's based on how busy I am and the way the bees are acting to the cage.

@thepitpatrol 3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was genius!

@kennylecroy9706 5 жыл бұрын

How do the bees keep from crossing over at the top of box ?

@WilliamMcNett 5 жыл бұрын

Is Mann Lake making their 5 frame stuff the same width as everyone else's 9-1/4" or is it still 9-5/8"?

@KevinsNorthernExposure 5 жыл бұрын

One question..why wait until the queens hatch? why not put the queen cell in a JZBZ cell protector and put that in and then just let her hatch inside the colony?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Great question! I guess because I like to witness she is alive before adding her. I could just candle the cell I guess but I really like using the incubator to finish my cells vs the cell finisher.

@dcm727 5 жыл бұрын

What’s a”Premiere” KZfaq video? Never saw that before. Looking forward to the video.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

It will allow me to watch with the viewers on a watch page where we can talk in real-time. Should be interesting.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

"Premier" is a new KZfaq feature that is slowly getting released to video creators. Being a new feature, I am sure there is going to be a learning curve for all of us. Hopefully it's easy to figure out. 🙂

@dcm727 5 жыл бұрын

Great job Jason. Love the info and great idea. I’ll definitely try this.

@davidmcneilly2727 4 жыл бұрын

I have just ordered 2 nucs for my first ever hives. May 9 I pick them up. Could I take one of them and do like your split into the two 2-frame nuc box you just illustrated? I guess I would have to hopefully get some queen cells from my other nuc?

@JCsBees 4 жыл бұрын

That's great news! Congrats on the bees. You could just buy a mated queen to add to one of the sections with some of the bees. But you would want the bees to go in a day or 2 ahead of adding new queen or they will kill her. They need to realize they are queen less first.

@davidmcneilly2727 4 жыл бұрын

Would they not just develop their own queen cell and produce their own queen?

@decaturridgebees8761 5 жыл бұрын

Man, there’s so many thing i want to do. Was thinking of taking a medium deep and splitting it Twice for three compartments and doing what you’re doing here. Might use it to sell a few queens here and there

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I have considered mediums also just because I have a ton of plastic medium frames. Best of luck!

@decaturridgebees8761 5 жыл бұрын

Jason Chrisman I’ve read a few books that felt the queen return rate was lesser in such cases. Not sure if they have a hard time finding their way back because they end up in the wrong box?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

They can drift to another hive very easy unless your mating yard is setup correctly. You have to think like a bee. Imagine your on an airplane and your approaching your local airport, as you get close you start to see things that look familiar to you. It's the same for the bees they need land marks to go by. For instance I setup my yard around trees and leave plenty of space between the hives.

@jamescrawford9786 Жыл бұрын

I like to hear how u use a break line on a jar an how it works

@JCsBees Жыл бұрын

This video of mine will explain the process and show how it works kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nc6Sla1_28zWeH0.html

@nkapiariesjeffbeezos796 5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much more effective it would be to use half length frames instead of full length frame? It's seems like bees could keep their space warmer especially in colder weather. As far as two colonies sharing one box and it was not a problem when I did it last year. I had a follower board that had a one inch gap off bottom off it. It was a long lang and never noticed any issues. Was plan on using 6 frame nuc and splitting into 3 2 framers or putting half length frames in it.

@KevinsNorthernExposure 5 жыл бұрын

It would be easier...and there are mini nucs out there that use frames 1/4 of the size....but the entire reason for this style, is that you are able to simply pull a frame of brood out of a hive and slide it in here.....and also when you have a successful mated queen, transfer that frame to create a new nuc. The mini-nucs have one purpose...to create a mated queen for you to take out, mark and transfer somewhere.... This just allows for transfer of frames much much easier.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Kevin is right but is leaving out 1 major factor, using deep frames for mating nucs gives me a chance to grade the performance of each queen before she is sold or transferred to a bigger box. Always keep in mind when open mating queens you never know what you will get. You could get a great layer or a poor layer, You can get mean as heck or docile and easy to work. So judging them is also a good thing.

@KevinsNorthernExposure 5 жыл бұрын

good point.......

@edwardcoffin6128 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason,would putting the queen cell in work?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

Sure would!

@jerrybowen7580 4 жыл бұрын

How do they feed between the plates

@petefields5090 Жыл бұрын

Jason I noticed in this video that you use migratory lids I live in southern Ohio I've debated this how do you feel about overwintering with migratory lids?

@Slushey51 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason, how would you say these do with walk away splits? Would one frame of eggs per side be enough?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

@Richard McCallum They work great for splits regardless rather they are walk away or not.

@Slushey51 5 жыл бұрын

Jason Chrisman How many bees should I leave on each side for a walk away split?

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I would add a frame that has both open and closed brood. The capped brood will emerge and boost the population and the open larva will give them what they need to raise a queen.

@phillipworsley8500 5 жыл бұрын

Not to sound like too much of a dummie but I noted in a previous clip that you didn’t use the swarm cells on your frame, you always placed a queen into the nucs. Why not just leave a swarm cell in place and await her arrival? Or did you incubate those swarm cells? (Or turf em?) I love the idea of splitting the 5 framer.

@JCsBees 5 жыл бұрын

I use my incubator to finish my cells. I like having a visual of the queen before she is given to a colony. Never know she could have damaged wings which would do no good.