2 Identical Bikes Built up Totally Different

2 Identical Bikes Built up Totally Different - High vs Low Ep 1

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Today I want to find out what the difference is between my $6000 2023 Polygon Collosus N9 Custom Dream Build and the New 2024 Polygon Collosus N7 in stock form. Let’s take a closer look at these 2 Enduro Mountain Bikes and take them out on my test loop to see how these 2 very different MTBs ride on the same trails. In this video series, I’ll be Upgrading everything on the N7 with a $1000 budget to see how close I can get it to feel to a bike Twice the Price. Welcome to High vs Low!
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@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Question for you guys… What do you think I change on the bike?

@jackalden9527 8 ай бұрын

Loved Evans series. I'd sort out ergonomics first so you feel comfortable on it: riser bar, grips, dropper remote lever, grippy pedals- all cheap upgrades. Then brakes and wheels on second hand market- faster acceleration and deceleration. What I end up doing on my bikes, although probably over a longer time scale though 😅

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

@@jackalden9527 you’re echo-ing a lot of my own thoughts for this bike! Stay tuned! Thx for the support!🤜🏼🤛🏼

@danielperelman4765 8 ай бұрын

First I would go tubeless. Then I would swap the front tire. Then try and source a 4 pot tektro caliper for the rear and change the rotors and pads to Shimano saint. After all that if I have the spare cash I'd go for a nukeproof or hunt wheelset. The bike would be perfect that way.

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

@@danielperelman4765 Lot of the same ideas… 💪🏻

@chrisjones7281 7 ай бұрын

I say you should not go with the used market for this series simply because its not repeatable by others. You might get a better deal because you're a you-tuber. Or that one person is desperate to sell but if we ere following you to see whats possible on a budget, we should be able to do it too :) That being said, start with good pads before upgrading the caliper. MTX pads...I wonder IF they are worth the Hype .

@maitai4329 8 ай бұрын

Always love watching your videos. Full of great infos and helping to find options to have a good time riding !

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Thx!☺️

@jesseonly1327 7 ай бұрын

Enjoying this series. Keep going bro! 🤘

@wellscarter17 7 ай бұрын

- $40 OneUp Composite Pedals - $30 Nicer Grips - $100 Actual Shimano Cassette and Chain - $60 Deore Levers - $80 MegNeg aircan upgrade - $285 Charger 3 Damper - Spend the rest on tires and the nicest used wheel set you can find Fun to think about! Excited to see what you do, I bet with $1000 in upgrades the N7 will be a real ripper

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

Wells is speaking my language!!!! Hope you watch the coming episodes to see how many we got in common.🤜🏼🤛🏼

@lucisdemise 8 ай бұрын

I can't wait to see where this goes, if Evan's serie was good I don't doubt this'll be any worse! Keep it up!

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Thanks homie! Appreciate the support!🤘🏻

@AdrenalineIsLife 8 ай бұрын

Very nice! Can't wait to see how this turns out!

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Me too!🤜🏼🤛🏼

@EvansMTBSaga 8 ай бұрын

Nice work. I was hoping for a Chad alter ego. Spend a little time setting up the N7, its really good as stock and should give your N9 a run for its money

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Evan! I have full confidence in being able to make that bike rip! As for a Chad alternative… I’ll leave the acting to you!🤣😉

@bibasik7 7 ай бұрын

I'm surprised that you can't lock up the rear wheel. I've never had that issue on any of my bikes, and I ride Walmart bikes! My Schwinn Knowles has a rim brake in the rear, and my Kent Trouvaille has a 160mm mechanical disc brake in the rear. Both can lock up the rear wheel, even on asphalt. I did take the time to bed in the brakes on the Kent Trouvaille, so maybe that's why they work so well.

@ForEverMTB 7 ай бұрын

Awesome video. I have a Polygon T7 and they are great bikes

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

Thx homie! Glad you liked it!

@AjProd19 7 ай бұрын

Love you vids ❤❤

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad to have you in the audience!🤜🏼🤛🏼

@mrvwbug4423 8 ай бұрын

Even the baller bike is just insanely heavy, especially for carbon rims. My RM Altitude with a very similar build but with carbon frame + alloy rims is 34.4lbs with cushcore out back. For the budget bike, SRAM DB8s for the brake upgrade, probably the best brakes SRAM makes right now and cheaper than even Deore 4 pots. And aside from tire/wheel upgrade, I'd definitely toss a damper upgrade in that Zeb if it's in the budget.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Yeah the N9 has the big 2.6” Magic Mary’s with Cushcore pro front and back. Also the thick 2.3” TRP rotors are also heavy but super reliable. Like I said in the video, it’s built for Whistler and not for climbing trails…

@Gaps2Naps 8 ай бұрын

I bought a Canyon Spectral CF7 this year. First thing I did was buy some NOBL’s tr37’s and went tubeless. The. Best. Upgrade! I know you only and a grand to spend, but upgraded wheels and tubeless setup is often the best upgrade IMO!

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Agreed! Those wheels feel great! Wheels and tires first! Doing that next week but keeping it cheap.

@gustavodownhill Ай бұрын

I’ve had a few issues with the bearings that hold the shock on my n7. Have you had the same? Any suggestion on upgrading the bearings?

@Mtbxmxunduro 8 ай бұрын

My personal opinion is to flog of the fox float x2 ultra and get a fox coil shox

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been dying to try that on the N9… definitely on the to do list.

@nite760 8 ай бұрын

That N9 is a "Silent Killer"

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Smoothest and quiet-est bike I’ve ever ridden.

@bellarogers7202 8 ай бұрын

Interested to see where you spend that $1k. I’ve got a T8 and have done a couple upgrades to the contact points and new tires. Still running tubes as I’m hunting for deep discounts for Black Friday on rims and brakes.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Stay tuned… In the next 5 weeks I’ll be making smart, cost effective changes to totally change the way this N7 rides. Next week… wheels and tires!

@bjornfongern4850 8 ай бұрын

I would do contact points/ergonomics first. Bars, pedals, saddle, grips. For the brakes I´d get the biggest rotors you can fit and see what that does. If that´s not enough you can throw on some Shimano Deores /SLX or Magura MT5 afterwards and still benefit from the big rotors. If the tires work tubeless I would try that first. Lower tires pressures should definately improve traction and you save a bit of rotational weight. Suspension and wheels get expensive real quick so I´d play with suspension settings/pressures/tokens first before investing any money. I am sure there are some improvements to be found here without spending any money. Wheels I´d only touch if/when they start braking on you. The Deore drivetrain is fine. A XT shifter makes a nice upgrade though for feel and shifting performance. The cassette is heavy but I would wear that out and replace with sth. lighter afterwards.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Very detailed list! Thx Bjorn!🤜🏼🤛🏼 I think we have very similar ideas…😉

@gloury7518 2 ай бұрын

Is there somewere to buy colossus n7 in eu ?

@LaurentiusTriarius 8 ай бұрын

I got the tektro orion 4p with 203 and 180mm discs oem on a stock giant trance x it took a day of bike park before calipers started leaking, pretty nasty brakes I'm 178lbs and the bike was 35 lbs stock. They put these on ebikes. Yikes 😮😂 First forced upgrade for me...

@thomasgruwell5166 7 ай бұрын

It's all in your mind.

@flashfive23 7 ай бұрын

The shock is placed backwards that’s why it’s slugish

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

🤔Let me try that out…

@mtblife745 8 ай бұрын

Hi Ben!

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Hey bro!!

@Anders-mtb 7 ай бұрын

Just ordered the n7 hope it’s worth it

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

Totally is! Great platform and super easy to upgrade as you go. You’re gonna have a blast on that bike!🤘🏻

@Anders-mtb 7 ай бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB ok sick I get it tomorrow

@Goob3r.in.a.plan3 8 ай бұрын

this video goes to show that you don't have to spend 3x the price to have fun, if you don't care about your future children, and forearms.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

🤣 I have twins already… and My forearms can always use a good workout!😅

@serjturischev9557 8 ай бұрын

both bikes 18+kg here, even that it possible to reduce some weight, it cant reach near 16kg. I think there is colossus frame way too heavy. The 16+kg with downhill capabilites thats the limit in my opinion, but not 18.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Heavy equals stable… If your trails are steep, this bike thrives!🤘🏻

@randomradon 7 ай бұрын

Would buy the lower end one purely because of mass effect, if you know, you know

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

Oh… I know😉

@randomradon 7 ай бұрын

Also because I'm fucking poor and can't afford 6k on a bike

@bicifamily 8 ай бұрын

Were are this trails?

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Maple Ridge BC Canada

@DrDr-pg5br 7 ай бұрын

$6k and it weighs 40#?!?! That sucks...

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

It’s build like a DH bike… could easily get it to 36ish

@darkness789 8 ай бұрын

You’re missing the point here, the components that you put on a bike are only as good as the frame it’s on. So by saying that polygon bikes are not good, the kinematic are not good on the bike so no matter how much money you pour into the bike it won’t make a difference. Frame is where the money should be spent first.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

The frame on the N7 & N9 are fantastic! The cheap build kit brings down on feel and ergonomics alone. Brakes can use some bite and the weight of the generic components can be improved…💪🏻

@McSchwabl 8 ай бұрын

Electronic groupset but a Grip 1 damper is complete wrong priority

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Maybe so… Just wanted to try it…

@mrvwbug4423 8 ай бұрын

Yeah when I saw the Perf Elite shock + Perf fork I was like "umm, other way around" My bike is the reverse, 38 Perf Elite fork, and X2 perf shock and you really appreciate the Grip 2 in the fork.

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

@@mrvwbug4423yeah have a grip 2 fox 36 on my e-bike and this one on the N9 feels just as hood dialled with tokens…

@topchoice1621 8 ай бұрын

Why not just swap parts from the N9 to the N7 and see how that works

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

It’s the same frame… they’ll feel exactly the same! My goal is to show folks that you can end up with a sick custom bike that rides really well without spending tons of cash.💪🏻

@topchoice1621 7 ай бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB if that’s the case then when you’re done with this upgrade do another video on how you can make it better than the N9 and really smash the trails a super enduro bike with better parts and performance get crazy with it if your budget allows you too

@mtguitar5150 8 ай бұрын

Lol talking like $2000 is a bargain.

@TopToBottomMTB 7 ай бұрын

It’s the best priced 170mm enduro bike on the market right now…

@alexisonbike3652 8 ай бұрын

Tektro Brakes should be banned. I had them on my hardtails and increasing rotor size, changing to metallic pads ... nothing work they just feel awful

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Yeah… I have them on my T8 as well as the N7 now… If you haven’t felt any other brakes, they feel fine but as soon as you feel better brakes, it’s over.

@therealridedmc 8 ай бұрын

He has Tektro brakes on the N9. They’re regarded as some of the best brakes available. We shouldn’t be surprised that the entry level product from that company don’t perform as well as the high end version from their racing/performance division!

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

@therealridedmc yeah ergonomics, bite point, and bite strength are all a step below… But it can get better without swapping the brakes out.💪🏻

@therealridedmc 8 ай бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB I’m not familiar with the specific brakes on the N7, but I suspect you can probably improve them with different pads? So Ben - you never answered your own question… was the pimped out N9 three times as much fun? I have no doubt it was more fun - but how much more??? 😉

@bellarogers7202 8 ай бұрын

Now you have my attention? The brakes on the T8 are lacking for me (larger rider). Pads and rotors? Wonder if different levers would work?

@hapanese7698 8 ай бұрын

The cheaper bike weighs .6 pounds more, and you pretend like that's a huge difference. Lol.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

Nope! What’s affecting climbing and acceleration is the cheaper heavy tires and tubes… next week I take them off and shave a few pounds.

@hoxleyholesoap 8 ай бұрын

Agreed that the rotational weight can affect the climbing and braking. I wouldn’t worry too much over 272 grams so much as where it is. Keep in mind guys this is aluminum bike vs aluminum bike which I prefer being a bigger guy. Carbon bike comparisons shouldn’t be applied here.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

@freds240601 Well said Fred🫡

@hapanese7698 8 ай бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB But that's 0.6 pounds heavier, and you calling it a pig. lol And yes tubeless will shave quite a bit of that huge half a pound of weight. The average MTBer isn't going to notice the change.

@TopToBottomMTB 8 ай бұрын

@hapanese7698 as of right now, the bike is almost 3 lbs lighter and I’ve only changed the wheels, tires and cassette…