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2 of the Best Rolex Alternatives.

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Theo and Harris

Theo and Harris

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Getting a Rolex alternative is no small feat. Today I (Michael) take on the hardest question in the entire world. Should you get a watch that looks like a Rolex? Performs like one? Or is recognized like one?
I'm not sure! Just wanted to toss out this idea of a jewelry company having the most notoriety when compared to a legendary brand like Rolex. Let me know what you think!
Want to buy a vintage Rolex, Omega, Tudor, Cartier, etc...? Well then check out the T&H watch shop would ya!
00:00 He'll be back soon.
2:59 Alternatives Part 1
10:03 Carl Friedrik!
11:36 Alternatives Part 2
15:23 The Bonus Watch!
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@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 2 жыл бұрын
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@andresanchez7049
@andresanchez7049 2 жыл бұрын
As I've gotten older, I've realized there will never be an alternative to what you really want. So in my book, Ill either wait until its available to me or I'll never get it. Simple
@t.h.1982
@t.h.1982 2 жыл бұрын
Not trying to dis your sidekick, but actually like your serious analysis vs the pretentious banter with Christian. Not saying you can't both provide serious analysis together; just comparing to other posts I have seen. Having said that, I'm sure there are others that like the fluff, so to each his own.
@loganbarr853
@loganbarr853 2 жыл бұрын
I got rid of all my Tudors when I couldn’t get the FXD from my AD. I put that money in Grand Seiko. Best decision I have ever made. They are absolutely stunning watches.
@bdg5593
@bdg5593 2 жыл бұрын
You couldn't get a FXD.... what has this world come to.
@cges1820
@cges1820 2 жыл бұрын
@@bdg5593 is this sarcasm? If so notice he said ALL of his Tudors. That tells me that he has been spending with them and should be seen as preferred customer therfore able to get watches
@loganbarr853
@loganbarr853 2 жыл бұрын
@@bdg5593 nope. I’m not like the other sheep that like the overrated BB58
@ky1le750
@ky1le750 2 жыл бұрын
I was all about the white dial OP39 but when it was discontinued a year and a half ago it shot up in price and I couldn't get one. Got an sbga427 and never looked back. Love it.
@megane230f1
@megane230f1 2 жыл бұрын
Rolexes over the last 6 years have become a craze an emperors new clothing effect, pre 2016 they were gathering dust in jewellers windows with AD trying to drag you in to buy them, they have become a liability on the wrist due to the flipper grey market and they arent bought by people who enjoy watches they are bought and sold for profit, there are a lot of watches that are far better looking than rolexes they just arent worth what rolexes are been sold for
@luispadilla2212
@luispadilla2212 2 жыл бұрын
My parents got married in 1945 and I love my Rolex Datejust. I don't normally comment on videos but I must say you guys have a great Channel.
@BrittPearceWatches
@BrittPearceWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh loved this video! :) I particularly have a soft spot for the Tudor Black Bay 36 :) You held it down perfectly on your own Michael!
@gabrielpaternina9854
@gabrielpaternina9854 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your work with Bobs Watches!!
@brett2396
@brett2396 2 жыл бұрын
The Black Bay 36 is so underrated. It’s basically the Explorer/OP with a highly regulated ETA movement with COSC level accuracy for a fraction of the cost of those Rolex watches even at msrp. I just bought one on a strap in great condition for $1800. That’s insane compared to a Rolex Exp/OP that’s less than 5 years old that go for $8-$10k. You could buy a Black Bay 36 and a Black Bay 58 for less than a Rolex. I did exactly that and added a Nomos Orion as my dress watch. Insane bang for buck luxury 3 watch collection!
@olib3
@olib3 2 жыл бұрын
I exactly started like that! But instead of the Orion I got the Campus. After a year I sold the bb36 and got myself an older explorer 1
@loganbarr853
@loganbarr853 2 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor and get rid of Tudor. I did when I couldn’t get the FXD. It pissed me off so bad I got rid of all my Tudors. Best thing I ever did. Look at Grand Seiko. I’ve bought two and they are absolutely stunning. Tudor is garbage.
@brett2396
@brett2396 2 жыл бұрын
@@loganbarr853 seems like you have an irrational reason for not liking Tudor. You couldn’t get one of their watches so now the whole brand is garbage? Tudor is not garbage. Grand Seiko is a totally different kind of brand. One is vintage inspired tool watches and the other is sports/dress watches. They don’t overlap. I love GS but for my tastes I prefer Tudor.
@loganbarr853
@loganbarr853 2 жыл бұрын
@@brett2396 if I or anyone else can’t go into a Tudor AD and get one…. There is an issue. Look at Tudors quality control. The BB58, 925, and the ceramic have had numerous issues. When you spend upwards of 3k on a watch you shouldn’t have any. Period!!!! On a horological scale Tudor and Rolex are garbage compared to GS. They work incredibly hard to earn your business. GS is a wearable work of art. This is coming from a Rolex fan boy. From here on out it GS for me.
@brett2396
@brett2396 2 жыл бұрын
@@loganbarr853 you can’t get a lot of things from dealers right now, not just Rolex/Tudor watches. There’s a global shortage on everything so you can’t blame these brands for not having the watches at the AD. Rolex’s history is definitely stronger than Grand Seiko’s. Not to say that there isn’t history there, but most of Grand Seiko’s history stems from Seiko themselves. I think you are just angry at the state of supply chain issues and rising prices of second hand watches. That doesn’t mean the brands themselves are garbage.
@usmanjadoon1961
@usmanjadoon1961 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Michael just a suggestion, you guys should make a separate channel on youtube to post video versions of the podcast episodes if you don't want to post them here because you think it'll be too much. You only mentioned spotify and apple music so I'm assuming the plan is audio only, though I could be wrong cause spotify does have video podcasts now. Just saying this cause I personally prefer video podcasts and prefer youtube for watching any long form content.
@RobW1170
@RobW1170 2 жыл бұрын
Super sad to not have the 30-40min videos to look forward to each week. Michael and Christian’s back and forth banter is fantastic. Feel like we’ll be missing out on the really deeper opinions on stuff from the two of them with this new format
@jw.2507
@jw.2507 2 жыл бұрын
Shit I really liked the 40+ min videos.
@josephburton3232
@josephburton3232 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting choice of Cartier and Tiffany for a Rolex alternative. When I think Rolex I think sporty, do it all watches. When I think Cartier I think dress watches. I don't really see how Cartier could be an alternative to Rolex. Very different style of watches.
@tmorris93
@tmorris93 2 жыл бұрын
For me, a lot of the attraction to Rolex comes from, in a word, the oyster case. All screw-down crowns, all "everyday" water resistance, no BS. ANY Rolex can handle anything you can, if you will. Additionally, their movements carry a reputation for robustness that is not matched by many other manufactures on the same level. For example you don't exactly hear people going on about how their Calatrava can really take a beating-in fact, I've heard many say the Royal Oak is a delicate, fussy piece. Omega's movements are the only other common ones to have that reputation. Oh, and if you want a white gold piece that comes on a bracelet, other than esoteric vintage options and the occasional one-off you're looking at either Rolex, a Tank, or one of like 3 or 4 Omegas. It's...limiting. So many watches make you go "yeah, sweet, it's just like the equivalent Rolex, but for x"-an amazing movement with an iffy bracelet, a perfect bracelet but the clasp is good, a great clasp but 14.5mm thick, perfect proportions and a good clasp but 30m WR, etc etc. So many near misses where Rolex pieces comfortably hit on all marks, consistently. A clear caseback is the only thing that can drive me anywhere else.
@JamesH1973
@JamesH1973 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Rolex. Don’t wear it as often as I should but I do love it. The problem I have with the brand is “it’s a Rolex” doesn’t work for me. If you have the money buy a watch from the holy trinity of watches. Patek, VC & AP. Another watch with a fantastic history is JLC. JLC made movements for all three holy trinity brands back in the day. A true watchmakers brand. The other problem I have with Rolex is people only buy it because they think it’s going to appreciate in value. F**k off. Buy a watch because you can (a) get it (b) you love it.
@minhpham_hg
@minhpham_hg 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but I really enjoyed the 40 mins videos!
@colomboluke
@colomboluke 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the 2 40 minute videos and the rants! That’s what made me watch the videos. Your personality’s are awesome.
@jimflynn5105
@jimflynn5105 2 жыл бұрын
What I like most about my Rolex is at some point I can sell them and have the money to buy a Lange Saxonia Moonphase. They are nice to have in the meantime.
@VmanStudioz
@VmanStudioz 2 жыл бұрын
Great out of the box content!! Keep up the great vids!
@vladyakubets
@vladyakubets 2 жыл бұрын
I personally like the longer format videos, my job allows me to listen to it while working so that's nice. Good job, keep up the good content 👏
@user-fi5fr9us2t
@user-fi5fr9us2t 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Finally not a bashing presentation. This is how this should be approached...
@BartMan59
@BartMan59 3 ай бұрын
The play on the "drive watch" by Tiff & Co. is a design by VC with their iconic classic - American 1921
@mrgee007
@mrgee007 2 жыл бұрын
this new format will work better guys, good shout!
@akinigiri
@akinigiri 2 жыл бұрын
I love the YoureTerrific channel! I watch all his vids!
@lastminute2607
@lastminute2607 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually liking the long format Mike! Perfect to play in the BG while I work.
@darienilham
@darienilham 2 жыл бұрын
Same tbh, this episode is kind of a mess
@bimmerman18
@bimmerman18 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Michael. Great content and great clean presentation style without F-bombs and profanity. You're a cool dude and you don't need F-bombs to be cool and I really appreciate that. Looking at you Christian.
@jameshoward9700
@jameshoward9700 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the Reverso! One of the greats.
@benficaM8888
@benficaM8888 2 жыл бұрын
yeah good point. I think most non watch enthusiast, still don't know what patek or AP is. Most female and men would know what a cartier is. even if they have never owned a watch in their life
@djisar-official
@djisar-official 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Michael!
@MrMichikelomtres
@MrMichikelomtres 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect reverso! Kudos
@RobinsWatchJourney
@RobinsWatchJourney 2 жыл бұрын
Great content.
@dannyg6592
@dannyg6592 2 жыл бұрын
I like the shorter format! Another excellent alternative to an Explorer is the Smiths PRS-25 Everest. A bit tricky to purchase, but well worth it - a brilliant 36mm watch.
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 2 жыл бұрын
A bit too on the nose of an homage and incredibly difficult to obtain imho
@dannyg6592
@dannyg6592 2 жыл бұрын
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 I give them a pass for 2 reasons: 1. The Everest homages the 1016, which has been out of production for 34 years; and 2. Sir Edmund Hillary was wearing a Smiths when he summited Everest. I was able to purchase an Everest on my first try, it is such an incredible watch that I cancelled my order for a 124270 with my AD.
@Randysocal
@Randysocal 2 жыл бұрын
Michael, I liked your previous format - it's the banter and discussion between you and Christian that sets you apart and is the reason I watch. There are tons of other KZfaq content if you just want straight info on watches in an efficient manner. As to length, if you don't want to watch a whole video, you can fast forward or just not watch. So don't streamline just for the sake of streamlining. Also, is the podcast identical to what you are posting on KZfaq? If not, you should film it and post concurrently on KZfaq. Anyway, I love your content - keep it up!
@ImperialManiac1
@ImperialManiac1 2 жыл бұрын
I like the old format. I got time for it!
@johannbo
@johannbo 2 жыл бұрын
great that you mentioned you're terrific. his videos are so damn good.
@chrishennemeyer7276
@chrishennemeyer7276 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Fred Amos, Mr. Bernhardt, one of the early micro-brand kings. Had one of his gorgeous watches, the the Binnacle World and will alway regret selling it.
@TheBigWrist
@TheBigWrist 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the BB 41 over the explorer for two main reasons. The Tudor fits my 8.5 inch out of the box, no added links needed and I really don't like Mercedes hands. I do love the lumed 3-6-9 and I have an OP39, so the bracelet is incredible. But a watch is really about the dial and hands, and I just think for me the BB41 is the better watch.
@jimgreene4248
@jimgreene4248 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! How about the JLC Polaris Mariner Date as an alternative to the Rolex Submariner?
@dingodave3966
@dingodave3966 2 жыл бұрын
Long content short content all good. Just keep it coming.
@sensational_cellar8606
@sensational_cellar8606 2 жыл бұрын
I really wanted the new Explorer but the AD doesn’t seem to be forthcoming. I just got the BB36 and it’s a good substitute.
@QualityTimeWatches
@QualityTimeWatches 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite backstreet boy🤔
@edgardo1166
@edgardo1166 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, There Are No Rolex Available.
@j.s.3414
@j.s.3414 2 жыл бұрын
There are no alternatives for my garden sundial. It's the ultimate status symbol.
@mrbud8524
@mrbud8524 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Rolex Submariner my next purchase is the Heuer Monaco Calbrie 11 blue dail 1969 ( Steve mcqueen ) it's iconic, Classic the Square design is different good to be different 👌
@Brajin1
@Brajin1 2 жыл бұрын
If Tudor was selling a 39mm ranger with the arabic's it would be a instant hit.
@pauloangelofamularcano1031
@pauloangelofamularcano1031 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@aurelius388
@aurelius388 2 жыл бұрын
The Seinfeld of KZfaq watch channel!
@fofffoff7492
@fofffoff7492 2 жыл бұрын
Tudor BB 36 yeah but.... we should start to look seriously at Christopher ward and their C63 sealander automatic. Independant company, unique case design, perfect execution and finition, same movement but less than a third of the price. This watch makes the Tudor looks way overpriced.
@brunonjezic6208
@brunonjezic6208 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you do podcasts on tidal too.... I got out of spotify at the moment. And lack of podcasts is real
@brunonjezic6208
@brunonjezic6208 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on JLC!!! That feels so right on you. So glad to see it
@mrgee007
@mrgee007 2 жыл бұрын
How many people would really buy a Rolex if you lost money when you walked out of the AD like most other brands?
@omarion07
@omarion07 2 жыл бұрын
This is really old and recycled talk now.. Rolex owns 29% market share of Swiss luxury watches.. to put this into perspective this as much as Cartier, Omega, AP, Longines and PP combined, and more than the entirety of the Swatch group. They retain their value very well because they appeal to so many people and they’re in demand. I know people like you like to downplay Rolex achievements and say it’s simply down to marketing and hype created by speculators and secondary markets. If the product was mediocre no amount of marketing and hype can make it popular.
@johncaron4888
@johncaron4888 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Christian and Michael, What Watch Brand is the NEW ROLEX? May you answer the this question or the make a video on it?
@ShuffIePath
@ShuffIePath 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Anna??
@finesse49
@finesse49 2 жыл бұрын
How nice, a reasonable length video concentrating on watches and without Christian ruining it by swearing every few words and babbling bull$hit. Well done.
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I fucking loved this video, too. C
@gordonbexell7837
@gordonbexell7837 2 жыл бұрын
I believe glashutte sea q is the best alternative to a submariner!
@PanditaP
@PanditaP 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know you guys had a podcast. Is it the same as these videos ?
@dibs6579
@dibs6579 2 жыл бұрын
i loved donating 80 minutes
@ashleygordon3467
@ashleygordon3467 2 жыл бұрын
If you a actually want a Rolex, nothing else will suffice. Just as if you really desire anything in particular(car, watch, any consumer product ) only that brand/product will satisfy your wish.
@Alex-1611
@Alex-1611 2 жыл бұрын
VSF is a good alternative. If you know, you know.
@ArnavSenguptaPlus
@ArnavSenguptaPlus 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the 40 minute videos as they could be considered a podcast as well.
@garysmith1477
@garysmith1477 2 жыл бұрын
Michael, the word you were looking for was cachet?
@Fredrik_Alfredsson
@Fredrik_Alfredsson 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really like the idea of alternative watches it will just remind you every time you look at your watch that you couldn't get the one you really wanted. Just buy another watch that you like for what it is. There are a lot of watches I can't afford but I don't try to find a look-alike, instead I browser throug watches in my price range until I find someone I like or just wait until I can afford the one I really want. Pretty much everey Rolex is avalible for a price and if you don't think the watch is worth that price just move on and don't dwell over it.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely 💯 agree alternatives never work. Go for a watch that a brand is known for and you will never be sorry. Go for originality not a look alike. I take a Tudor Monte Carlo heritage chronograph any day over a Black bay. Because that watch is its own design and doesn't look like something else
@ikeformayor
@ikeformayor 2 жыл бұрын
Let's go!
@XGurro
@XGurro 2 жыл бұрын
Good format. But whoaaaa, what happened to the transitions? Looking at you Wazowski
@eugenekim8417
@eugenekim8417 2 жыл бұрын
Word up
@dakotarayprice
@dakotarayprice 2 жыл бұрын
I m a Tissot fan boy
@lastminute2607
@lastminute2607 2 жыл бұрын
that bernhardt looks suspiciously similar to an explorer. not an homage?
@Reviews4fun1
@Reviews4fun1 2 жыл бұрын
You are better by yourself
@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 2 жыл бұрын
Iconic status is rare for anything, and even more rare for a watch. I have a Submariner, and it enjoys status that most don’t dare even dream about.
@Sullenberger
@Sullenberger 2 жыл бұрын
Cache. The word you're looking for. the cache of Rolex...
@Ax07605
@Ax07605 2 жыл бұрын
I don't hate Rolex quite the opposite at their retail prices there is not a watch on the market that touches them on quality or history. My issue is them on secondary market which is essential the only place you can get them. A Rolex at secondary prices it's not worth it I know the market values them that way but I don't. I will wait and only spend retail plain and simple.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
The 1 Tudor I do like is the Monte Carlo heritage chronograph because it looks nothing like a Rolex or a vintage Rolex and it has its own spot in history. The original that is I'm just not a fan of watches that look like something else. I own a Explorer 1 because it's a Explorer and might buy a Tudor Monte Carlo heritage because that's what it's supposed to be and looks nothing like a Rolex. Just my opinion. The Santos mid size is beautiful and love it's a no date
@ronenash3487
@ronenash3487 2 жыл бұрын
CF coupon code does not work
@TheoandHarris
@TheoandHarris 2 жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@jiroyamada7983
@jiroyamada7983 2 жыл бұрын
Prefer the long form organic discussions
@tailsfromthepast7432
@tailsfromthepast7432 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of brand recognition I think Breitling is up there too.
@drkesrf
@drkesrf Жыл бұрын
Tudor is the only literal alternative. Everything else is their own brand with their own story.
@truthseeker1581
@truthseeker1581 Жыл бұрын
This is the only smart comment... Tudor Ranger or Tudor BB Pro... it's like getting a Toyota instead of a Lexus.
@michaelcozens7537
@michaelcozens7537 2 жыл бұрын
The word you were looking for is “cachet”. The watch you missed was Smiths, the other watch that climbed Everest. 👍
@jcb0920
@jcb0920 2 жыл бұрын
cachet*
@michaelcozens7537
@michaelcozens7537 2 жыл бұрын
Touche’
@PanditaP
@PanditaP 2 жыл бұрын
Brand recognition! Lol
@tineye5100
@tineye5100 2 жыл бұрын
You’re right, if you’re looking for an overpriced mass-produced watch, there really aren’t alternatives! More seriously, if I see a Rolex on someone’s wrist, odds are more it’s a trophy than they’re a watch person. Not much of a conversation piece.
@RobinHood-us7sg
@RobinHood-us7sg 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say certain Rolex models yes but not all. I have an Explorer 124270 and it’s not a trophy 👍🏻
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
The Explorer 1 is definitely a conversation piece and the Submariner no date. The Daytona is really just a success story. The 2 best watch conversations I had belong to Omega and Zenith
@stevebennett7783
@stevebennett7783 2 жыл бұрын
100%. I'll happily strike up a conversation with most watch owners. Unless they are wearing a Rolex and I have a Rolex haha.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevebennett7783 lol 😆 Rolex explorer owner here. My favorite Rolex story. Is about the Great Escape where the POW dug tunnels Tom, Dick and Harry with Rolex Speedkings on there wris during World War2. How awesome is that and such an amazing film with Steve Maqueen, James Coburn, Charles Bronson and Richard Attenborough 👌 When I think of Rolex this is how I think about them. Just bad ass sports watches. Sadly that isn't the case with current Rolex
@stevebennett7783
@stevebennett7783 2 жыл бұрын
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 Mate 100%. I have the classic 14060 no date Sub that has been worn by special forces around the world.... Now, unfortunately its a different type of special person.... Still my casio F-91w gets a few comments 😁⌚👍
@larsinjapan
@larsinjapan 2 жыл бұрын
Less talk more editing sounds great!
@angustillett2649
@angustillett2649 2 жыл бұрын
I like the long babble episodes
@darienilham
@darienilham 2 жыл бұрын
This new editor is rough
@QualityTimeWatches
@QualityTimeWatches 2 жыл бұрын
I wont accept the alternative😎⌚️✌️
@TheTubaEmporer
@TheTubaEmporer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m down for 2 40 minutes long video
@fedor6595
@fedor6595 2 жыл бұрын
40 minute videos were great though…
@fullymechanical9055
@fullymechanical9055 2 жыл бұрын
Praise be for less sponsor babble...
@VinRom19
@VinRom19 2 жыл бұрын
Talk to me Michael
@drticktock4011
@drticktock4011 2 жыл бұрын
Caché
@dibs6579
@dibs6579 2 жыл бұрын
the babbling is beautiful
@JR-li4ik
@JR-li4ik Жыл бұрын
You can gift me a tag heuer aquaracer and I will wear that like nothing
@OuijTube
@OuijTube 2 жыл бұрын
Takeaway: 99% of the population literally does not care about your watch.
@19NJS71
@19NJS71 2 жыл бұрын
Bulgari... accent on the U
@billcore6295
@billcore6295 2 жыл бұрын
Rolex is a greedy company and they cheapen their watches
@arnovda9479
@arnovda9479 2 жыл бұрын
So none of these are even remotely considered as Rolex alternatives. Why make this video? 🙃 Why not address the question why there are no credible alternatives, combining a modern look, slim case, functionality and build quality? Why isn't Omega catching up with their endless moonwatch remakes?
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