I'm so angry, I'm so SICK AND TIRED of men who BELIEVE it is their RIGHT to take the lives of their spouse and children. IM EFFIN SICK OF IT, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT, NONE. I lived with DV for 7yrs and almost lost my own life so I do have experience to back my anger and words, there is NOTHING more cowardice than a man picking on people who can not match his power. IVE HAD ENOUGH.

you cannot let your abuser know that you are leaving....you have to leave in silence!!!

It's horrific either way..but it's WORSE in my mind if he threw the baby boy alive to the alligators..he would've been crying and probably trying to cling to his "daddy"..my heart can't cope..God bless and rest in peace in the arms of your mother

I don’t understand why people can’t just off themselves, instead of taking their innocent families with them. It’s sickening.

It was a miracle they found the baby. RIP sweet baby and mamma.

I escaped an abusive relationship.... He didn't know where I was.... 5 years later he sends my best friend a message that he knows where I am now. Who the hell still looks after 5 years? This tells you what lengths some of these kinds of people will go through to find the person who escapes.

After 32 years I was able to get a divorce. Th second case hit to close to home. Thankful to be alive and finally enjoying every minute of my new life.

I think that father's punishment should be he also is thrown in a lake of alligators. How messed up do you have to be to do some shyt like that.

While these are both sick the alligator one is just so beyond horrible.

I’ve moved to Utah 3 years ago and this is so disgusting and disturbing that the cops and everyone else involved failed these beautiful children!!! And definitely failed that poor teen girl who tried and tried to protect her family!! She protected them where her MOTHER should have!!!

I will never understand murder suicide especially ones where children are involved , just how disgusting do you have to be kill to your own children

Both of these cases are beyond heartbreaking and gut wrenching. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims’ families and loved ones. May all of these victims rest in peace. 💗

It’s really so sad how a human can do this to another human, even more tragic to his own baby and mother of the baby

Ana, thank you for mentioning "The Trauma" of ANYBODY who saw baby Taylan in the mouth of the alligator also those who had to see the 7 bodies in story 2. Not enough is mentioned about EMS workers, from witnesses to police to mortuary workers and everyone in between, what these people go through daily is unimaginable and many times unspeakable, I hope they are all afforded the help they need to live with these images for the rest of their lives. Thank you to each and every one of you, you are ALL amazing human beings.

If you read a human tossed a pet to an alligator..you would be disgusted..his own child!???!

I was in an extremely abusive marriage for 23 yrs. I am thankful that I finally found the strength to walk away. He assaulted my 17yo son before I got out and he will be forever scarred but we're out, I'm divorced, I have a continuous protective order. He's broken my cheek bone, kicked me like a dog, slammed me into window seals and walls. It took a LOT. There's always an excuse not to leave, it won't change anything if you don't get out.

I have a not even 2 year old son yet and a 4 year old daughter I couldn’t imagine my heart is literally breaking for this baby, the pain and agony- how scared he was. Rest in peace little baby I’m so sorry I wish I could’ve protected you😢

The moment you say you're leaving, especially when emotions are already high, it can literally tip an abuser over the edge and the red mist descends..... Leaving quietly, by stealth, is so paramount!!

The look in that father’s eyes chills me to the bones!!! Pure evil!

The autopsy came out today. The father did throw him in the river alive. Taylen's cause of death was drowning

So sad. I have a one year old and this boys smile looks just like his. Poor baby. He deserved so much better in life.

As a man, I'm horrified by the actions of some men. We are to be the protector, and the strength to our families feeling safe, not to be the one that kills them.

Anyone who attempts to clean a murder scene shows their consciousness is sane and aware. This POS needs the ultimate punishment. That baby and his mom had such a beautiful life infront of them and this selfish monster took it from them. I'm so outraged over this case. That baby was absolutely beautiful and so was his mom.

The father of the first story doesn't deserved a prison sentence, he needs to be fed to alligators!

I am watching this for the first time since it was posted because I literally had to mentally prepare myself to hear the details....in both cases. It is heartbreaking, depraved and gut wrenching. The case of the innocent, sweet, unsuspecting, trusting, defenseless toddler is particularly heartwrenching for me.

Ladies if you are a victim of domestic violence .. leave without letting your abuser knowing your plans .. act like everything is ok , then make an exit plan a b and c .. to get far away without your abuser knowing .. even if you have to act like you are running an errand ❤️🙏

That little baby was so beautiful. RIP sweet boy❤

I’m trying my hardest to stay strong while listening to these two horrific cases. How can anyone kill their own children?! Ugh! 🥺😭😭

As someone who escaped a DV relationship and helped a number of other DV survivors escape, I promise you, they never change. No matter how many times they apologize and say it will never happen again, it will. For far too many it only ends with death or jail. Please stay safe out there and know that you deserve better. 💜

The man was embarrassed about his social standing and being viewed as a failure, apparently he thought killing his entire family would improve that reputation? WTF. He should have just offed himself instead of taking 7 other innocent people with him like a COWARD.

Ana & Allison are such a dynamic duo. I always enjoy watching the two of you together. Thank you both for being so thorough & engaging in your reporting. The stories that are reported on are just horrendous & terribly sad.

I can’t imagine how Passion’s parents feel- losing their daughter and grandson in such a horrific way. 😢 🙏

People can't just walk away from relationships anymore 😔

If he had so many injuries,you KNOW that Mama bear fought hard for her and her baby..R.I.P. Passion, and Your beautiful baby boy 😢. Hope you two are together dancing with the angels ❤❤❤. So gutwrenching.

When I left an abusive relationship I was scared to death the time of leaving and for months after. It is really scary

As an ex-Mormon and a woman who grew up in a very abusive household, I totally understand how, and why the mother did what she did. And how and why the police in Utah did what they did. Unfortunately, a lot of the fault, to me, and the blame falls to the Mormon church. Who effectively still runs and controls government in so many areas of Utah. And unfortunately, the Mormon church covers up this abuse, all the time! And because so many of the “system”officials are LDS, it is further covered up in the “system”, all the time! It is so sad, so tragic and so preventable!! But just like I went and tried to get help …help was denied. And at 61 I am still trying to heal from the amount of abuse that I went through as a child and that my nine siblings went through. My father was also very very concerned with public image. Especially with his public image at church! I too was the eldest and tried to protect them. It was a horrible existence!

This17 year old amazing young girl tried so hard to get her and her siblings out of dangerous situations. heartbreaking.

I was recently divorced well a year and a half ago and still I had 47 unread messages from my ex the other day......its constant and now I am thinking I should be a little more concerned and not think that "oh he would never do anything like that" famous last words or "nothing like that ever happens here" he too is a narcissistic controlling prideful and manipulative man and he too has still not acknowledged the abuse over our 10 year marriage or any of his faults its all me. Same old story......think im going to put some safeguards in place, already did the whole Vivint thing so I won't stop there. So horrified and sad for these people!!

This is anxiety inducing... What is going on in the world. Knowing someone so long and you still don't know what they are capable of. 😢 Also as someone who is working through anxiety and depression I don't like how everyone wants to say its "mental health"... " Their crazy" nah I don't buy that.

Good morning Ana and Alison. These were heavy cases but, domestic violence is so important to talk about. I want to keep all families safe, but, I know that would be impossible. Thank you both for being brave enough to discuss these hard cases. Have a FANTASTIC weekend! ❤

On your second case, brought so many memories. It seems like it’s very hard to leave. The person who is doing the abuse is very convincing. I am one of the lucky one’s who survived. The two of you, really told how it is. Thank you.

What? A true crime show that does not sensationalize or glamorize horrible crimes - but actually is responsible, respectful & sincerely empathetic? YES, this is Ana Garcia & her guests & her show. I think True Crime Daily is the best of it’s kind & the only “real crime” show that I trust.

At some point this country has got to deal with the problem of the increase of family annihilator cases. That begins with facing our problem with domestic violence, and the fact that so many of the law enforcement, lawyers, and judges (and often our state representatives that are supposed to be passing laws to protect us) we employ to deal with these cases are alleged or convicted abusers themselves. It’s out of control.

I love when Ana welcomes Alison to co-host. These two ladies vibe so well together. 🙌🙌🙌🙌

Did you see how people in the town came out after the murders and were saying what a great guy the father was???

As a survivor of DV I understand how dangerous it can be to threaten to leave &/or leave. I got threats of death & I was 3 months pregnant. This man is so wicked it's hard to comprehend, but it's happening so often now. Look at all the cases of parents murdering children. He was obviously too young, too immature & an all round bad person. Women need to be so careful, having children that young with young men who are more like boys, is not a good thing. But yes it can happen at any age. We live in very increasingly dark & evil times. I will say, in this case, I doubt he googled anything. He just acted with anger & the evil in him. I think he murdered the mother in rage, then got rid of his child. Whether he killed the boy, before or after throwing him in the water, it's still intentional murder. I'm also tired of murder & heinous acts being put down to mental health issues - let's start calling it what it is, sin & a wicked mind & heart!!

The grandfather who ACCIDENTALLY dropped that baby off a cruise ship got charged, this guy had BETTER be charged for that!

Thank you both for your coverage of these absolutely abominable violent Crimes from abusive men. The fact that you endeavor to use these situations as teaching moments to try and change things for others is a beautiful testament to your compassion and benevolent heart! Thank you for having the very best guests as well.

......... WHY?!? It's horrific enough to murder the mother of your child. But to kill your own baby, and in such a cruel manner as to feeding him to a gator, is just another level of brutality. It's messed up that I'm sat here praying that Taylen was already dead before being thrown into the lake because the thought of that little boy struggling in the water, terrified, before drowning or being taken by the gator is too much :(

Nah when he called him A LobSter that shit took me out 😭😭that’s crazy

I'm 49 I have been through so much in my life but it never crossed my mind to take the life of another human unless to protect my children...I'm disabled since 2010 by the hands of my ex The father of my 2 and only children...I say like my mother used to ...There but for the grace of God go I...I'm worse for ware but I'm here.....I'm here..

I love this dynamic duo! Such sad cases today. Thank you for bringing awareness to the women/men who may be in the same situation.

I live close to where that child was found. I remember receiving the amber alerts for him and following what was going on. I remember saying to my friend, if the father killed the mother he poses an instant threat to the child. The next day that friend sent me the news article about how the infant had been found... extremely upsetting..

My heart is broken for all these innocent people

Dudes will kill their family just to avoid being divorced like bro what are you fighting against she wants to be free

The first case is just horrific. The little boy is a few months older than my youngest granddaughter, I just can't imagine someone being depraved enough to harm a baby like that.

I'm surprised they didn't touch on Michael's obituary. I mean whoever wrote it thought he was like the best guy ever. I would not write an obituary for somebody like that. I think I would just bury them quietly and try to move forward.

This is horrific! I studied marine biology in St. Petersburg, FL. Most of the local bodies of water are full of alligators. During Hurricane Elena, I remember Lake Maggiore flooding the downtown and alligators were swimming throughout the streets!

These cases are horrific. The first responders will NEVER forget these crime scenes! Please pray for everyone, those poor women, those poor children!

The first case the father should get the death penalty

My x husband never set with me in church. It was humiliating. But when he asked for a divorce I let him have it. Only to hear from a neighbor that the day of the divorce she saw him crying and saying he should have never divorced me, that I was the love of his life. Lol. I am Happy now, the children are grown. They are all college educated. I even have a doctor. But all my girls have professional careers. So I did well. And I have a wonderful husband of 19 years now. My wonderful husband would never not set with me in church. Pick your husband’s wisely !

Use that Thing that stabbed his wife to death and threw his baby to the alligators for medical research! Don't tell your abuser anything; move yourself and your kids somewhere where he can't find you and then do all the other stuff like file for divorce. As far as I'm concerned restraining orders are just a piece of paper; men like this monster generally ignore them. Women need to stop being manipulated by their partners and start putting their children first. Love how you don't hold back when you're describing these monsters, Ana.

Our times should be called "The era when men went batshit crazy"

Omg!! That poor baby !! How can anyone be so evil ?! Especially a parent ?!!

The Florida case is one I am very glad you covered because I was super curious about it. The perpetrator looks very disturbed. I am so sorry this young woman got involved with someone like him. Praying for the family because their ache runs deep, I’m sure!!!!!

Yay! Alison is back! I love a lot of your guests but Alison is my fave. Can’t wait to listen.

This was an small LDS community in Utah- The police, etc. are LDS (people can argue differently but it is majority LDS). That played a big part in this story. Apparently things that were going on were relayed to church Bishops (higher ups). People could have intervened. She was relying on the “counsel” of people that didn’t protect her. People need to understand women are taught to submit to an incredible extent in her religion. Thank you for covering this.

How was the little 2 year oldest body still intact? It is beyond me.....even the alligator knew better.....he probably was digusted by the father's actions

What is wrong with these parents!?! I have a 2 year old and it makes me sick thinking of that poor baby and how scared he was when that POS threw him in the water with the alligators.

In no way to disregard what was done to the mother, I believe this man tossed the baby in the lake because the baby witnessed what he did to his mother, definitely premeditated and this man deserve the death penalty.

Oh Ana, I just love your empathy ❤️ coupled with anger and outrage is just how I feel... these real life stories make me cry and utterly pisses me off! And, I appreciate the convos you have with such sincerity and expertise sharing valuable information! ❤️

Its evil, not mental illness

My Lord, help us! This is the most deplorable act, I wonder how many other bodies have been tossed to alligators😢😞 🙏🏼Blessings to this baby & mom🙏🏼

One of my best friends from HS was estranged from her husband, but no domestic violence. He called her and asked if she could meet him at this certain outdoor location. She just had a strange feeling about it so she didn’t go…he killed himself there. He was planning on killing them both is what we think…

One thing is for sure, the world is PURE EVIL!

25:31 when Alison said he looked like a lobster with his hands bandaged 🤣🤣🤣

His family wrote up an obituary, praising his parenting and leadership skills and how he served for the cult of mormon. It didn't mention that he gunned down his entire family. It went on to say "he made it at point to spend time with each and every child."

There is absolutely no chance that the alligator father has any sort of grasp with reality. Severe mental illness has to be at play 😱😱😱

Horrific! Thanks Ana for bring light to these cases.

PLEASE give Ana a replacement True Crime Daily mug, or tell me where I can buy one and I'll ship it to her myself! If ANYONE deserves a mug of her own show it is Ana!!!

Really like your show from the UK. We don’t have an equivalent podcast over here but have family in Texas and Florida so have visited a few states and can relate how horrific event affect your communities. The way that the public get behind and help law enforcement is admirable.

Both cases are extremely upsetting and sad beyond belief. As always, covered with compassion and care. Love when Alison joins the discussion. Love to you all and thanks for another great episode xxx

She's right. My 17 yr marriage to a former Airborne Ranger with Malignant Narcissism & Sociopathic Tendencies & the Parental Alienation of my son has left me diagnosed with Complex PTSD & Battered Wife's Syndrome.

I absolutely agree! If you're abuser asks you to leave and take a drive or go somewhere else to talk, CALL THE POLICE 😔 This is so horrific.

I cannot allow my mind to picture that precious little boy in the mouth of a gator. 😢

It almost looks like you and your guest are in the same space, because you're backgrounds go so well together.

Cops / police officers see these kinds of things and as strong as they think they are this is traumatizing!!!!!! The baby in the alligators mouth made me cry .

I thank the Lord that I did the right thing when my husband took me to the cemetery in the middle of the night to end my life after one too many abuse my 4 kids and I suffered. To make this short,I fled to Singapore and now I'm a citizen of Canada and dealing with ptsd. All of us are trying to get over our ilness that was inflicted by my soldier husband.

Both of these cases are heartbreaking. I can't wrap my head around how anyone could hurt another human being.

FYI...IF YOU PUT A TEASPOON IN THE MUG FIRST, THEN POUR HOT WATER IN MUG, IT WON'T SHATTER.

Listen to the child was the BEST Advice!!! 👏

We need more wise, strong, courageous women in all areas and levels of law enforcement and the decision making process to protect families.

SHE SHOULD HAVE NEVER PUBLICLY HUMILIATED - AN ABUSER- HIM - AT CHURCH! Wrong move.

I think there are two other possibilities for Mom taking the phone. One, fear the Dad would find the phone so she was trying to protect the teen or, Two she wanted to hide the evidence that was on it so he couldn’t get it and destroy it. It is a slow scary process leaving and you have to have a plan and be prepared. Especially when you have children and depending on how tight he keeps tabs and how tight he keeps the money it can take time to make all of this happen and most people can’t understand this unless they have lived the mental and emotional nightmare.

Allison!!!!! Youre back.. yayy!!!❤ Great job Ana and Allison. We were volunteers in the search for Taylen. We were trying to be hopeful, but most of us worried we were looking for a body. Many volunteers broke down. It was so hard. We have been involved in the brian laundrie search, tristan bailey, cieha taylor, and sarah dreyer. Heck sarah went missing 2 streets away from us and her body was just found. I encourage ppl to volunteer to help in searches like this if possible. Its so important for the families.

I am struggling to not become numb to the extreme violence of this world.💔💔💔💔

It is very hard for other's who haven't suffered domestic violence to understand the victims actions, however I nearly died at my ex's hands, by choking. It was a horrendous 6 years, but our Son was 2 years old and he'd smacked him and I could see his handprint, I couldn't ignore that. He had to go and he tried to kill me in front of him! Police did nothing, just sent me to the solicitors. This was 30yrs ago, but I still don't trust easily. I did the restraining orders, which he'd violate smash everything and just laugh at me. It's a very cold, dark, lonely place to live, with a destroyed, broken spirit. You spend most of the time walking on egg shells, and you just hope to get through that day without your head being kicked in. It's destroyed all my relationships since. It's pure hell xXx

Omg. This is so horrible! RIP to the beautiful mother and her 2year old little Angel! Just wow. I just can’t even begin to think about that poor little baby and what he went through. Wow. So sad. Pure evil! And don’t leave out Cell phone pings! Showing where they were! It really is crazy how these people google this evil stuff and then act on it. So horrible.

I love the way you are helping other victims of these types of crimes We need more shelters for anybody that is being abused men women or children.

The "help" he was talking about was what he demanding of his family as in, "You need to do what I tell you in order for me to be ok and if you don't, you aren't helping me'.