20 Doctors Couldn’t Fix His Shoulder Pain!

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Жыл бұрын

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@nikola4962
@nikola4962 Жыл бұрын
Why are doctors struggling so much to find issues like this
@anandnairkollam
@anandnairkollam Жыл бұрын
Because they don't train and are not passionate enough about studying the underlying mechanics
@magicjohnsins
@magicjohnsins Жыл бұрын
Because they don't train and are overreliant on studies (which are largely conducted on those who don't train) rather than experience.
@richardevans8908
@richardevans8908 Жыл бұрын
Lack of knowledge
@fabfiller2916
@fabfiller2916 Жыл бұрын
Doctors aren't specified on functional movements and the clinical reasiong around them. Even orthopedics and suergons aren't. Often they look to much throw a structural lense. And in this guy u probably won't find to much relevant damage in and around the shoulde joint.
@nikola4962
@nikola4962 Жыл бұрын
@@anandnairkollam but physiotherapists and sport doctors should know this, it's exactly what they study!
@youtubeusername5
@youtubeusername5 Жыл бұрын
20 doctors and 4 PTs didn’t perform any rotator cuff manual muscle tests. That’s insane.
@ssousa1972
@ssousa1972 Жыл бұрын
Call bs on that, this dude is lying. Which makes no sense
@elijimenez7710
@elijimenez7710 Жыл бұрын
@@ssousa1972 unfortunately he’s not lying. Might be exaggerated but I have a similar experience
@almondish5911
@almondish5911 Жыл бұрын
And which rotator cuff muscle should be tested in this case? IMHO, It’s not RC issue
@Marcus-oj9xw
@Marcus-oj9xw Жыл бұрын
​@@almondish5911 Teres minor primarily
@yannik0181
@yannik0181 Жыл бұрын
🧢
@iLLWiLLx21
@iLLWiLLx21 Жыл бұрын
In 4 years: 3 doctors, 5 different physical therapists. None figured out why I had shoulder pain. Figured it out my f’ing self and I’m so mad at all the time I lost
@JackDaniels-hf4se
@JackDaniels-hf4se 9 ай бұрын
What was the reason for your shoulder pain
@januar2741
@januar2741 9 ай бұрын
​​@@JackDaniels-hf4seeither mobility, stability or weakness. Stretch and strengthen to bulletproof shoulder.
@JackDaniels-hf4se
@JackDaniels-hf4se 9 ай бұрын
@@januar2741 i was wrestling my friends and for some reason my shoulders cracked while wrestling and I was in pain for 3-4 days then the pain went away and when I wrestled again same thing happened to my shoulders I went to the doctors they said I haven’t tore any ligaments or tendons I just need to rest it and I have been resting them for a week now and Im just trying to see how I can prevent this from happening again and some times when I lift heavy or move my shoulders around they hurt a little bit
@Rickcope2075
@Rickcope2075 9 ай бұрын
Jesus loves you 🙏🏽❤️
@Matt_Alaric
@Matt_Alaric 9 ай бұрын
​@@januar2741 That list covers pretty much everything the shoulder does and is so vague to be useless. You need to be able to identify the specific cause of the issue to be able to fix it.
@googlefaps5883
@googlefaps5883 Жыл бұрын
At this point after so many clips I’ve realised it’s either tightness of internal rotators or weakness of external rotators in most cases or even both. So why the hell are physiotherapists struggling. Even I can do that
@Messup7654
@Messup7654 Жыл бұрын
I guees they are just not testing it this way because it’s noticeable how aren’t they finding it there’s something missing in the way these sessions go
@magicjohnsins
@magicjohnsins Жыл бұрын
the pain experienced points to certain areas pretty intuitively, then the tests performed are likely the same we see here. It's probably the case that the PTs and doctors correctly diagnosed the source of the problem, but the exercise prescription is very different here than it would be in most PTs' offices. Consider also that the immediate pain relief seen here might not be due to the exercises performed, but rather psychological, and we measure patient outcome by reevaluating after a certain period of time - something not done or shown here.
@chasefreeman1136
@chasefreeman1136 Жыл бұрын
The same as doctors who prescribe. If you heal all your patients, will you make any money?
@googlefaps5883
@googlefaps5883 Жыл бұрын
@@magicjohnsins interesting but does exercise selection matter if in the end ur going to be doing the same movement pattern working the same muscle
@magicjohnsins
@magicjohnsins Жыл бұрын
@@googlefaps5883 But that's not always the case, and there are hundreds of reasons to select one exercise over another, the movement pattern is only one factor. Here are a few that the average PT does not generally seem to care about: - is it measurable, i.e., can I standardize range of motion and make sure each rep is a similar stress? - is it loadable so I can measure improvement? - is it an isolation or compound exercise? Both are valid choices, but have different applications that seem poorly considered - is the PTA capable of instructing the exercise, are they aware of what it's intended to correct, and do they know what to look for? - what sets and reps are most conducive to development, and does that match the exercise selected? - where will this be taking place within the session and how well does it work with the other exercises?
@jaleesa00
@jaleesa00 Жыл бұрын
This client has super perseverance to get through 20 doctors!! No one knows your body like yourself
@WHITELIONNYC
@WHITELIONNYC Жыл бұрын
time and money 💰 to waste/spend as well...
@WyattOShea
@WyattOShea 5 ай бұрын
It's sad that doctor visits even cost money in other countries tbh. Unless I go to a specialist I've never had to pay for a doctors visit in all my 29 years of being alive. Same thing for the hospital too when I got third degree burns as a child (did it to myself on accident). I was in there for a month and mum and dad didn't have to pay a cent other than the money for the burn suit I had.@@WHITELIONNYC
@antoineb9371
@antoineb9371 Жыл бұрын
I thank God for competent people in the medical field who can actually spot and recognize real issues that are going on in people’s bodies and help them get better
@MrsSuziInspirational
@MrsSuziInspirational 4 ай бұрын
had mine four months
@CB-sr8ee
@CB-sr8ee Жыл бұрын
I need a whole playlist on stability issues pleassseeee.
@riche4854
@riche4854 Жыл бұрын
Same issue for me - perfect timing for this video.
@kyler7305
@kyler7305 Жыл бұрын
Same I'm out of the gym right now because shoulder pressed messed me up a few days ago
@danishshaikh7045
@danishshaikh7045 Жыл бұрын
Mee too 😀
@terminardo
@terminardo 10 ай бұрын
Same brother! I pray this will fix my shoulder problems 🙏🙏
@kimokahikolekalihi
@kimokahikolekalihi Жыл бұрын
My shoulders have been messed up for well over a decade now. I need to see someone like you. I went one time, they got x-rays and couldn't find anything wrong and said "maybe I have bone spurs" and sent me to a physical therapist who just had me to exercises to improve my posture and she seemed to know nothing about rotator injuries. Needless to say, none of it helped.
@knightglade7979
@knightglade7979 11 ай бұрын
Same man.... If I knew about someone like him in India I would have rusbed there
@gowthamyadav393
@gowthamyadav393 Ай бұрын
Yeah i got same problem
@JuanCruzFabi
@JuanCruzFabi Жыл бұрын
This videos gives me so much hope
@levelintent
@levelintent Жыл бұрын
It's crazy and also sad how you can get solutions for long-term pain from a KZfaq page but not from 25 different medical professionals
@JesseGilbride
@JesseGilbride Жыл бұрын
Some (not all) doctors seem akin to ChatGPT in how they stick to routine procedures, rely on base (and often old) information, and have/use intuition from experience to diagnose. Honestly, it's sort of a breakdown of "first principles" thinking, but I understand that they aren't House (the show) and dont have the time and resources to delve into wvwry case - yet another failing of our medical system, but i digress. I've met a few doctors that break the mold, so there's hope.
@BGeezy4sheezy
@BGeezy4sheezy Жыл бұрын
This is exactly my issue. Every doctor or physical therapist just told me to do that one external rotation exercise with a band, and it didn’t help much. These exercises helped immediately
@thezu9250
@thezu9250 Жыл бұрын
You need a foundation of strength first. Otherwise you are just straining it. You want to move to progressively harder variations.
@sadullokhojiboev3889
@sadullokhojiboev3889 Жыл бұрын
I had the same condition and this helped me a lot thank you
@yen-8680
@yen-8680 Жыл бұрын
My mom has a shoulder and shoulder blade pain… i really hope i can go to US to ask for consultation 😭 it hurts to see my mom in pain
@mustafasukruilhan6183
@mustafasukruilhan6183 Жыл бұрын
If I ever visit US I'm coming for an appointment.
@Ivan.80p
@Ivan.80p 10 ай бұрын
Guys, this works. I do these stability exercises everyday wether im lifting that day or not, and its helped me a ton.
@lunaheat8
@lunaheat8 10 ай бұрын
What is the first one called? And is it supposed to hurt like a mf
@Ace-rl8ty
@Ace-rl8ty 9 ай бұрын
Thanks man, needed to see this
@heroofthyme4237
@heroofthyme4237 11 ай бұрын
I have the exact same issue! And only one physiotherapist was on the right track
@crypttrader6806
@crypttrader6806 11 ай бұрын
Damn, this is what ive been dealing with for months , thanks so much
@czarate21
@czarate21 Жыл бұрын
This channel rocks! You have thought me to better understand my body mechanics and the key difference between stability and mobility. Thank you!
@xiangluang
@xiangluang Жыл бұрын
This knowledge.. unebelievable
@leewilson5389
@leewilson5389 Жыл бұрын
Is it better to see a physical therapist or a sports therapist. It really irritates me the poor guy having to see 20 professionals,
@dannymanganelli9314
@dannymanganelli9314 11 ай бұрын
I have so much respect for Squat University. I'm having a similar injury as this guy that I've been dealing with for the past 16 months. Been to 3 physical therapists and multiple orthopedists and no one can help me.
@meme1033
@meme1033 11 ай бұрын
If you ever have slightly complicated health related issues you soon figure out the incompetence of a lot of doctors. A lot of them are also quite ignorant and narcissistic in believing what they know and have the tendency to gaslight sometimes. I’m open to being proved wrong, but I suspect a lot of doctors, due to training such a broad spectrum of concepts for the time it takes, eventually gives them the impression that they know it all. Don’t get me wrong, it’s impressive and must be very difficult. But The longevity of it leaves them with a level of ignorance through arrogance. Fair play to this guy for finding someone that helped. Shocking it took so many
@algiuchi
@algiuchi Жыл бұрын
No I didn’t see it because the text blocked it😢
@markf.9281
@markf.9281 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am in a similar situation; very helpful!
@TyphonXD
@TyphonXD Жыл бұрын
This will help me
@kevinsamuelsghost685
@kevinsamuelsghost685 Жыл бұрын
You gotta train those stabilizer muscles your body is like a machine any part that is not developed well will have an impact on the rest of the other parts trying to work together
@bidet1098
@bidet1098 11 ай бұрын
Great work, Squat University! Keep researching and evolving in your practise, you've helped me heaps with your videos! Legends
@osteomalacia2233
@osteomalacia2233 Жыл бұрын
better than 20 different doctors combined? who is this guy??
@joebloggs6922
@joebloggs6922 Жыл бұрын
Most doctors are useless when it comes to this type of thing honestly.
@Macgee826
@Macgee826 Ай бұрын
They haven't a clue about physical therapy they'll give you a sweet painkiller though.
@andersalazarz
@andersalazarz 11 ай бұрын
My god! I have the same problem. My left shoulder is upper team the right one. And I also have pain. I need to follow the recommended exercises. Please, share more content about this issue.
@marionmatthias5608
@marionmatthias5608 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see his continued progress
@habitathomies6049
@habitathomies6049 7 ай бұрын
Im in the same boat, at least 4 physical therapists, mri, xrays, injections, chiropractors, massage...been in pain for decades...one set of these exercises and i can already notice a difference...bless you 🙌
@peterrandall6761
@peterrandall6761 10 ай бұрын
Do you have any videos on mobility, rather than stability for shoulders?
@mac5917
@mac5917 Жыл бұрын
Love these shorts, amazing channel
@Jake66564
@Jake66564 8 ай бұрын
You can see the exhaustion and doubt in his face turn to joy
@AColonDashSix
@AColonDashSix Жыл бұрын
Imma try that kettlebell thing for a warmup now. Thanks
@kunalsuri8316
@kunalsuri8316 Жыл бұрын
Hey doc, thanks for these videos. They have been extremely helpful in getting me back to the gym. Will it be possible for you to make a video on sumo squats if they are useful?
@sweetpotatoesarereallygood
@sweetpotatoesarereallygood 8 ай бұрын
i hope more people learn stability and mobility are equally important
@MrDon967
@MrDon967 Жыл бұрын
you should make a video or short about a bunch of workouts for warmup we can do to fix should pain. somethings we can do before the actual workout. i'd incorporate it daily
@2000triathlete
@2000triathlete Жыл бұрын
Nice catch doc! Glad this guy is able to train without pain now. 😊
@diver291
@diver291 7 ай бұрын
Again, another gem. Thank you!
@maddog9465
@maddog9465 Жыл бұрын
I want to be this good at physical therapy. I will subscribe to learn more by observation. 🙏
@SSrutbe
@SSrutbe 11 күн бұрын
Saw the bottom down position earlier today. So seeing it again I’m defo gonna add to sort my shoulder stability. Thanks for sharing
@fabiobonetta5454
@fabiobonetta5454 Жыл бұрын
Always informed always insightful always entertaining
@Carmen88888
@Carmen88888 Жыл бұрын
I had the same issue last year. One visit to the doc and one referral to the PT in my small rural community and they were able to diagnose the issue! But it took months of weekly PT sessions and deep tissue massages, plus daily exercises with surgical bands to improve. And a year later I still have to be conscious of my left scapula position. 20 docs and one session of a few exercises! This video must be a miracle!!! (I’m female, job includes Wildland Firefighting, and I’ve been doing push-ups incorrectly for 20 years, after learning quantity over quality in the Army 😬)
@johnpark7972
@johnpark7972 7 ай бұрын
Squat University is the hero we need in sports therapy. Thank you for all your videos.
@jotdhillon5365
@jotdhillon5365 10 ай бұрын
This guy helped me fix my shoulder pain forever. Just did 135 x 19 reps today!!
@WHITELIONNYC
@WHITELIONNYC Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻💯🙏🏻💯🙏🏻💯🙏🏻💯🙏🏻💯🙏🏻💯🙏🏻 I need as many STABILITY exercises as possible from this channel. So many injuries/sprains and useless PT sessions with overbooked PT staff.
@pablogallardo7952
@pablogallardo7952 Жыл бұрын
I screw up my shoulder recently… I’ll try these exercises 👍
@DeinosAres
@DeinosAres Жыл бұрын
Your doing gods work my friend
@6fTbLiNg
@6fTbLiNg Жыл бұрын
Hey squat university my mother has frozen shoulder can you make a video on it ❤
@markfox3083
@markfox3083 Жыл бұрын
How do you get such great knowledge?
@hillelking
@hillelking Жыл бұрын
Never show results after one day. That is ridiculous and basically a lie. Show me his progress after minimum of one month, pteferably a few months. You can not assess improvement after one session of training/physiotherapy.
@processuscoracoideus
@processuscoracoideus Жыл бұрын
I agree, I would like to see long term results of his patients
@barenjuden3911
@barenjuden3911 Жыл бұрын
Placebo. Comes across as neurotic.
@JesseStevenTrumm3992
@JesseStevenTrumm3992 Жыл бұрын
I’m dealing with a torn labrum and it basically never heals and I still can’t lift overhead or bench, it’s been a nightmare not being able to put muscle on
@camrongoodall
@camrongoodall Жыл бұрын
Mobility man strikes again
@TrainandGame
@TrainandGame Жыл бұрын
Gotta fix his press. Never move the bar around your head. Shoot hips forward, get the head out the way, and press the bar straight up
@luizalmeida5398
@luizalmeida5398 8 ай бұрын
I have the exact problem, I'm gonna do these exercises, thanks!
@aaronhughes827
@aaronhughes827 Жыл бұрын
My should press is uneven and off looking, but I don't have any pain, is it something I should fix?
@Hai.tinh.583
@Hai.tinh.583 Жыл бұрын
I have the same problem. Try to squeeze your shoulder blades back in front of a mirror to see if theyre even a few reps. it helps me. Also start with light weight with extra warm up
@johngavin6622
@johngavin6622 3 ай бұрын
Love your content Man. I have bilateral shoulder bursitis and the pain makes my knee replacement seem like a picnic .
@Drsarthaksoni
@Drsarthaksoni 8 ай бұрын
Wow every video from you is so informative ❤️
@chsam1991
@chsam1991 Жыл бұрын
Much needed information
@jamie6506
@jamie6506 Жыл бұрын
This is why I won't go to the doctor unless it's urgent care and things are serious. It's so expensive, and for what? For them to do absolutely nothing? If I'm gonna be sick or hurt either way, I'd rather not waste my money and time.
@jordybeans2392
@jordybeans2392 10 ай бұрын
Great work!
@nicoleterry5228
@nicoleterry5228 10 ай бұрын
This is similar to an issue I've had for years. I finally stopped lifting and it's only gotten worse. Had multiple mris and nothing but my shoulder blade also just feels wrong. Docs say they don't see anything on mri and now I'm having nerve issues 😪. Definitely trying these! ❤
@ethanbrunt7755
@ethanbrunt7755 5 ай бұрын
I’m my case it isn’t pain, it is sort of a crunching noise
@patrickbanks8735
@patrickbanks8735 10 ай бұрын
The wizard does it again.
@perwetano
@perwetano 10 ай бұрын
GREAT JOB AGAIN CAPTAIN SQUAT!!! 🙌🌟👏
@willhicks8769
@willhicks8769 5 ай бұрын
Unreal, I just did the lying on front and raise the arm and it immediately fixed my press up pain.😮 For context, I know I have shoulder pain and learnt a wider grip bench alleviates it. I decided to go heavy at narrow/mid grip width last week and my long term front delt sharp pain returned immediately. That rotation thing helped immediately
@bhlakbatosai
@bhlakbatosai Жыл бұрын
So what kind of specialist does one need to go to conduct these tests and diagnose these tightness, stability, movement and/or shoulder or joint pain issues? Please someone answer. Thank you
@Livinginthe_end
@Livinginthe_end 9 ай бұрын
So this works after one day? I’m not trying to be rude. I’m just wondering bc I am having the same issue and have not been able to workout for two months.
@davidwalsh3523
@davidwalsh3523 Жыл бұрын
As a PT, what matters is he got better with doing the exercises. I’m sure there is bias to “buy in” for this specific situation and I’m sure someone missed some things that could’ve helped this pt, there will always be greatness in each profession but that usually means there is the other side of that coin. It’s frustrating when people miss what mattered to this specific pt and it was to do those specific movements without pain regardless of who didn’t test things.
@cbrochu22
@cbrochu22 Жыл бұрын
This should’ve been discovered pretty early on in the testing by just checking his ROM in the left shoulder. I have a very hard time believing 4 PTs couldn’t discover that, especially now when you need a doctorate
@_Zane__
@_Zane__ Жыл бұрын
Would face pulls help with this too?
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph Жыл бұрын
That doctor number goes up every video 😂
@Stephanie-ul6lq
@Stephanie-ul6lq Жыл бұрын
I know seriously there’s no way he saw 20 doctors
@usbgamers123
@usbgamers123 Жыл бұрын
​@@Stephanie-ul6lq Yeah, he saw 20 doctors and NONE OF THEM tried one of the easiest and most well known test for shoulder???
@A.Nick24
@A.Nick24 7 ай бұрын
For how long these rehab excercises has to be done ?? And should it be continued for life long even after pain has gone ??
@dumb.luck36
@dumb.luck36 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could go to this guy’s clinic
@ugam8541
@ugam8541 8 ай бұрын
please share he's further progress and Excersises, I'm dealing with the same thing.
@Riki-sn4wh
@Riki-sn4wh 6 ай бұрын
Upside down kettlebell rotational very nice exercise!
@jaskiratbamrah13
@jaskiratbamrah13 10 ай бұрын
I still have same issue do include hanging straight hand and hold
@JonBiven
@JonBiven 8 ай бұрын
Dam this helped a lot. I struggle a lot with the liftoff part of my lifts so i suppose its because of my weak shoulder stability
@scrumptious9673
@scrumptious9673 11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@mvikred
@mvikred 8 ай бұрын
I have exact same problem. Pressing vertically up results in pain across the bicep. I’ve been diagnosed with subacromial impingement but no exercises shared really work fully. It’s better but when I increase weight the pain is back. I’m going to try these and see if it helps. I’ve been doing the bottom up movement for some time now.
@ven7ce510
@ven7ce510 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing!
@rvfitness5576
@rvfitness5576 7 ай бұрын
I'm facing the same problem. My left blade is moving excessively. Not able to do bench press, OHP. I'm trying this workout. I hope it fix my problem. I'll update once i feel any improvement.
@ThePotato1
@ThePotato1 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean when you talk about stability and mobility? What's the difference?
@Jahsurfer
@Jahsurfer Жыл бұрын
Mobility: The ability to move freely and easily. Stability: The ability of the body to maintain postural equilibrium and support joints during movement.
@hUgO6191
@hUgO6191 Жыл бұрын
Just because you can get to a certain point doesn't mean your body is prepared to stabilize it. I like to think about it this way mobility your range of motion, stability your range of motion without pain
@ThePotato1
@ThePotato1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. 🤝
@Aaaaaa-ys4gu
@Aaaaaa-ys4gu 7 ай бұрын
What's a good weight to use for the kettlebell? Need to buy some kettlebells...
@kkr3270
@kkr3270 Ай бұрын
Sir make video on pec strain, sprain, tear how to avoid and some information please sir make video
@growlerfrown487
@growlerfrown487 Жыл бұрын
Trying to raise my arms while keeping the elbows planted is almost nonexistent... it’s gonna be a while
@ncstonefab1
@ncstonefab1 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on wrists? Ty
@jaleesa00
@jaleesa00 Жыл бұрын
Yes. And warm up for wrists like when going to do push exercises that day ( push up, bench press)
@hossskul544
@hossskul544 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God, how is it possible that the "experts" couldn't fix this? I just can't understand it, aren't the experts the new gods that we're not supposed to question?
@juanibarra6948
@juanibarra6948 7 ай бұрын
How can I have a consultation to explain my situation with my right shoulder UCSF, top orthopedics say surgery is the only way yo fix my shoulder. I’ll appreciate very much the opportunity to talk to a real expert, Ive been following your clips and your knowledge and science behind made me to look for an opportunity to talk to you. Please get back to me I still have dreams at sexy-six, 66, and want to be in good shape; cannot get great powerful core since my right shoulder stops me to extend my arm for the worm for example or cannot work nothing above my head, anyway please, get back to me. I need your expertise. Thank you for all your great job and wisdom is inspiring to watch your clips and gives tremendous hope to those like me, struggling with pain and feeling tired of the lack of alternatives the orthopedics offer, they love the knife😵‍💫Thank you again✊🏽🔥❤️
@jenm6476
@jenm6476 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say it’s pain, just discomfort, as if something is rubbing against the front of my shoulder, but only when performing a move like the shoulder press or chest press. It started just on my right but I’m feeling a little bit on the left now too.
@Ashthebully
@Ashthebully Жыл бұрын
You know, even though i dont have certain "issues". I still do the vids that you put out because "it's better to be ready than sorry". Lmao So by that, I'm adding this to my workout. 😂
@fishbone9159
@fishbone9159 10 ай бұрын
Where can I find ppl like you I need this too 😅
@hoviksmail
@hoviksmail Жыл бұрын
I think I need a physical therapist. I try to work out and I hear all kinds of popping like things aren't aligned properly.
@jsals1016
@jsals1016 Жыл бұрын
I have that same issue and a slight rotor cuff tear
@mylifemytravels_
@mylifemytravels_ Жыл бұрын
Wish you could come to India ❤️
@rachelvargas5856
@rachelvargas5856 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I do bicep curls my wrist hurts. It's not like I don't warm them up or train them, when I'm doing forearm exercises they don't hurt, does anyone know why or any exercise that might help?
@BigDees19
@BigDees19 Жыл бұрын
It could have been cuz he actually properly warmed up and stabilized his shoulders and scapulas this time and there being more blood flow and un like compared to when he does it by himself and he probably likely just spends like2 to 5 mins max on his warm up if he even does warm up his shoulders, so to say these are the exercises that helped his shoulder pain is not really correct.its ironic how all these fitness and health KZfaq guys think that they know the secret to these areas when really it was him just warming up properly and not as to what he said and that these exercises helped him. Probably a bit of both and not that these exercises are so special that it cured his pain.
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