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YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

THIS, Understanding This, is Salvation HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins - Ancient Semitic Cuneiform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.

Lol...it seems to be preference...

He's not that baaaaaaaaaad

I think it’s more of a compliment lol because he preachers truth and a lot of people don’t like to hear the truth, but for those few that do it would be beneficial

Agreed 💯

Yes, it is scary, but God will guide you 🙏 as you follow these questions and know that no church is perfect. My church is not perfect but has these stables of a godly church down and are even improving. So I'm blessed to be a member of it because it has rooted me in the Word of God.

@BonnieC Dear sister i know what you mean. The only advice i can give you is: test them ALL !...test them and what they say with God's Word and you wont go wrong. Ask God for wisdom and He promises in His Word He would... James 1:5 "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him."

....God Bless you Dear Sister and welcome to the Kingdom of our Dear LORD and GOD. Nothing is more priceless than being Born Again into His Kingdom and into the Body of Christ. I was Born Again into New Life the first day that God led me to open the Scriptures to the Book of John. (The Gospel of John.) And discovered whom Jesus was. Then we know we are indwelt and sealed by the Holy Spirit. Who then teaches us "all truth." My suggestion is check everything against scripture. Be a Berean and check every verse. I have been saved 3 and a half years and l still check everything. Never a day goes by that l'm not in my Bible. It's actually falling apart. I'm having to tape in sections as they fall out. Of course l have other Bibles but l love this one Soo much, because God gave it to me as a gift. Dr. Steven Lawson on One Passion Ministries...has fantastic teachings on the New Birth and what it means to be born again. I highly recommend him. If you are truly Born Again the Holy Spirit will keep you from error. You may venture off at times but you will always recognize the truth when you hear it, and come back. I'm on Instagram under this same name if you would like to talk. God Bless you richly ..📖✝️🌷

I know the feeling. Had the same experience about 7 years ago. I have found my best measuring rod for what is true and what is false about God comes from reading and re-reading the Bible. I don't do study well. I can do it, but I usually have to have help. However, I can read the Bible. And with enough reading (I haven't had enough yet...will need to keep reading to remind myself every day) of the Bible, you get to know what God would and would not actually do, say, desire of us, etc. Best shield against false teachers. And by the way, he said/she said shouldn't even come into it until you're familiar with what God said. Thank God He left us a manual for living the Christian life: The Bible.

@Cade Wolfson Absolutely not trying to offend you...but absolutely no where in Scripture does it tell us to accept Christ into our heart for Salvation. It's not the Biblical way to Salvation. If you go to Ephesians 1:13 it says regarding Jesus "after you hear the Word of truth, the gospel of your Salvation" then you trust and believe. But if you go back to v4 it tells us whom it's speaking of who God has chosen before the foundation of the world. The Gospel is 1 Corninthians 15:1-4. And turning away from sin? No man can do that until The Holy Spirit of God has come unto us and given us the New heart at the New Birth. Then we are granted repentance by God. It's all a supernatural working of God. Stick with the scriptures. God Bless...🙏

Amen!

For sure! You need to be in a body of believers my sibling

Ministers Motivatingu2win Mike Winger Allen Parr The watchman Costi Hinn Wretched JerusalemChannel? Ruslan? Lion of Judah Got Questions Off the Kirb ministries Reformed wiki 2.0 Living waters Robert Breaker Dr.Sean McDowell Desiring God Alex Wilson Here’s some amazing youtubers can watch until then.. but in any case always evaluate what’s being said.

Orthodoxy is Truth

​@@HasanUnknown God is Trinity

Prayers for you my friend that the Lord lead you and put your where He wants you. In the meantime, this here is Church, believers on KZfaq chatting about the goodness of Jesus, amen?

J Day. this is the single most important thing you can do for yourself and your family going forward. i will add you to my prayer list for the next month as you seek. my only thought: if you can, don't hesitate to drive to get to a good church. we have to drive 45 minutes and it is more than worth it

Same here haha

Praying for you to find a good one

If you need a church home I can help you find your local Catholic Church

@@dman7668 Catholic church? You gotta be joking!!

Me too. Hello fellow LCMS member!

We also have fantastic church signs…St. Mark’s Ferndale.

That's a really good point. Being a religion of the book, it might be a good idea for the pastor to open that book every once and again. I love reading and the biblical texts are, just as a story, phenomenal. The story telling is pretty amazing, the storyline ebbs and flows and the reader is often either weeping or ready to throw it at the wall in frustration. It's a really good book. People really should read it more.

They should have clapped even louder after he said that!

Idolatry

God's word isn't referring to the Bible in every case. We don't go by scripture alone obviously. That wouldn't make any sense.

Love it!! Boom.

@@dman7668 What? God's word means. The bible, holy scriptures.

@@khrystalkhoury62 uh, no it doesn't lol, most of the time the word of God in the Bible isn't referring to the Bible. How do I know this? Because the Bible wasn't compiled first. The letters were written and then put into a Bible later! 😅

@@alliesmom2946 I am not arguing that the bible is not God's word. However the Bible never states that we are to go by scripture alone. I reject this doctrine of the reformers because I see now basis for it.

I can help you find a nice Catholic Church..it doesn't matter what Church you go to really. Just a Bible believing one..which the Catholic Church is.

@@dman7668 Why are you so blind? The Catholic church is a cult, made up of tradition of men, not God. Do your history homework.

Amen.

Yep, the Atheists Nightmare...the Banana! 🤣😂

@@harrycooper5231 🤣🤣🤣

You have shared an incorrect understanding of that passage. 1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV - Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. No one can call Jesus Lord except by the Holy Ghost right? Romans 10:14 KJV - How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? They receive the Holy Ghost upon believing in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus, at which point they are saved and are enabled to call Jesus Lord. God doesn't force anyone to have faith in Him, God allows you to choose to have faith at which point you are regenerated and given then Holy Spirit. Calvinism is not a biblical set of teachings

@@isanyoneelseheretoday Wrong. I know what happened to me. I was a confessed believer my whole life, but l was NEVER saved. Confessing Christ is not enough if there is not a move of the Holy Spirit...and you have not been Born Again as Jesus said you must be. Then you're not saved. You can't even see the Kingdom of God. Nor can you enter into. Should l give you more verses? Why are you here? You have a different understanding of scripture from us Reformed Believers. Then simply move along. The rest of us remember how we were saved. I was Born again into New Life when l foolishly thought l was saved. Then l opened the scriptures and made a real saving confession by the Holy Spirit. You think Calvinism is wrong. Great...go hang out with your Armianian buddies. I will stay with the truth of scripture. God chooses His Elect from before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:4. No matter what scripture l give you...you are blinded too it because of your presuppositions. You need to ask God to show you a deeper understanding of Scripture. God Bless...📖✝️🙏

@@michellecheriekjv4115 1 not an Arminian, they are Calvinistic also just with a different surface, 2 I'm here to share you the truth of scripture 3 personal experiences do not trump scripture, but you do truly have to believe. 4 Ephesians 1:4 states that God had elected, before the world, that those who would be in Christ would exhibit holiness and be forgiven etc... Not that He would choose people to have faith. If you believe that Ephesians 1 is rendered as God chose who is in Him before the foundation of the world I invite you to read chapter 2 of that same letter and see that before they believed in Christ they were not in Him so how could they be in Christ before the foundation of the world? It's a misreading with the Calvinistic presuppositions you have been taught

@@michellecheriekjv4115 more importantly if you were wrong would telling me to go away be the right move? Or would it be worth your while to be able to defend what you believe. The Bible says study to show thyself approved, and that you should be ready always to give an answer for the reason of the hope within you with meekness, have you studied the Bible? Did you come to Calvinism yourself or did someone guide you down that road, can you defend with coherence the doctrines you affirm? Or does is being wrong okay with you because you're in the "In" group? I'll happily sit and go through verse by verse and show you where Calvinism falls short if you'd like

@@isanyoneelseheretoday I'm enjoying the polite dialogue. I hope it stays that way. 🙏

There isn't any communion taking place. MacArthur denies Jesus is physically present body and soul in the sacrament. It isn't a Holy Moment. In fact, Holy Communion is called Holy Communion because people believed they were recieving Jesus literal body and literal blood under the appearance of bread and wine. It's like Christians don't even know why a thing is called that anymore lol.

For more proof that the true Church contradicts MacArthur see the early Church fathers. They are right and MacArthur is a false teacher.

​@@dman7668 we are going to have to disagree here. Jesus gave the first communion, to Jewish men. There isn't a chance in the world or Jewish teaching that they believed what they were given was anything but a metaphorical blood and body. I realize Rome teaches this is a literal happening. Biblically speaking, it's a false teaching. It cannot be reconciled to the new or old testament, but only to the tradition of Peter as taught by the Roman Catholic church.

@@dman7668 100% agreed. I would only note that MacArthur is "correct" in what he says, but may not be fully aware of the implications. It's better for Protestants to have only a 'pretend' sacrament. The true Eucharist is simply too perilous.

@cristiewentz8586 You wrote: " There isn't any chance in the world or Jewish teaching that they believed what they were given was anything but a metaphorical blood and body" I never got around to responding to this comment. In the New Testament we see the Jews did NOT think Jesus was speaking metaphorically, what you are saying here is actually untrue. What you also are not aware of is the the way the sacrifices worked in Jewish religion and the significance of Christ being the sacrificial lamb. Gen. 14:18 - this is the first time that the word “priest” is used in Old Testament. Melchizedek is both a priest and a king and he offers a bread and wine sacrifice to God Psalm 76:2 - Melchizedek is the king of Salem. Salem is the future Jeru-salem where Jesus, the eternal priest and king, established his new Kingdom and the Eucharistic sacrifice which He offered under the appearance of bread and wine Malachi 1:11 - this is a prophecy of a pure offering that will be offered in every place from the rising of the sun to its setting. Thus, there will be only one sacrifice, but it will be offered in many places around the world. This prophecy is fulfilled only by the Catholic Church in the Masses around the world, where the sacrifice of Christ which transcends time and space is offered for our salvation. If this prophecy is not fulfilled by the Catholic Church, then Malachi is a false prophet Exodus 29:38-39 - God commands the Israelites to “offer” (poieseis) the lambs upon the altar. The word “offer” is the same verb Jesus would use to institute the Eucharistic offering of Himself Lev. 19:22 - the priests of the old covenant would make atonement for sins with the guilt offering of an animal which had to be consumed. Jesus, the High Priest of the New Covenant, has atoned for our sins by His one sacrifice, and He also must be consumed Zech. 9:15-16 - this is a prophecy that the sons of Zion, which is the site of the establishment of the Eucharistic sacrifice, shall drink blood like wine and be saved. This prophecy is fulfilled only by the priests of the Catholic Church Exodus 12:5 - the paschal lamb that was sacrificed and eaten had to be without blemish. Luke 23:4,14; John 18:38 - Jesus is the true paschal Lamb without blemish Exodus 12:8,11 - the paschal lamb had to be eaten by the faithful in order for God to “pass over” the house and spare their first-born sons. Jesus, the true paschal Lamb, must also be eaten by the faithful in order for God to forgive their sins Lev. 7:15 - the Aaronic sacrifices absolutely had to be eaten in order to restore communion with God. These sacrifices all foreshadow the one eternal sacrifice which must also be eaten to restore communion with God. This is the Eucharist (from the Greek word “eukaristia” which means “thanksgiving 2 Kings 4:43 - this passage foreshadows the multiplication of the loaves and the true bread from heaven which is Jesus Christ John 6:4,11-14 - on the eve of the Passover, Jesus performs the miracle of multiplying the loaves. This was prophesied in the Old Testament (e.g., 2 Kings4:43), and foreshadows the infinite heavenly bread which is Him I love typology. You can see the connection here and why what the Catholic Church says is the truth and what MacArthur teaches is false teaching. John 6:51-52- then Jesus says that the bread He is referring to is His flesh. The Jews take Him literally and immediately question such a teaching. How can this man give us His flesh to eat John 6:53 - 58 - Jesus does not correct their literal interpretation. Instead, Jesus eliminates any metaphorical interpretations by swearing an oath and being even more literal about eating His flesh. In fact, Jesus says four times we must eat His flesh and drink His blood. Catholics thus believe that Jesus makes present His body and blood in the sacrifice of the Mass. Protestants, if they are not going to become Catholic, can only argue that Jesus was somehow speaking symbolically John 6:23-53 - however, a symbolic interpretation is not plausible. Throughout these verses, the Greek text uses the word “phago” nine times. “Phago” literally means “to eat” or “physically consume.” Like the Protestants of our day, the disciples take issue with Jesus’ literal usage of “eat.” So Jesus does what John 6:54, 56, 57, 58 - He uses an even more literal verb, translated as “trogo,” which means to gnaw or chew or crunch. He increases the literalness and drives his message home. Jesus will literally give us His flesh and blood to eat. The word “trogo” is only used two other times in the New Testament (in Matt. 24:38 and John 13:18) and it always means to literally gnaw or chew meat. While “phago” might also have a spiritual application, “trogo” is never used metaphorically in Greek. So Protestants cannot find one verse in Scripture where “trogo” is used symbolically, and yet this must be their argument if they are going to deny the Catholic understanding of Jesus’ words. Moreover, the Jews already knew Jesus was speaking literally even before Jesus used the word “trogo” when they said “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?” (John 6:52 John 6:55 - to clarify further, Jesus says “For My Flesh is food indeed, and My Blood is drink indeed.” This phrase can only be understood as being responsive to those who do not believe that Jesus’ flesh is food indeed, and His blood is drink indeed. Further, Jesus uses the word which is translated as “sarx.” “Sarx” means flesh (not “soma” which means body). See, for example, John 1:13,14; 3:6; 8:15; 17:2; Matt. 16:17; 19:5; 24:22; 26:41; Mark 10:8; 13:20; 14:38; and Luke 3:6; 24:39 which provides other examples in Scripture where “sarx” means flesh. It is always literal John 6:55 - further, the phrases “real” food and “real” drink use the word “alethes.” “Alethes” means “really” or “truly,” and would only be used if there were doubts concerning the reality of Jesus’ flesh and blood as being food and drink. Thus, Jesus is emphasizing the miracle of His body and blood being actual food and drink John 6:61-63 - Jesus acknowledges their disgust. Jesus’ use of the phrase “the spirit gives life” means the disciples need supernatural faith, not logic, to understand His words John 3:6 - Jesus often used the comparison of “spirit versus flesh” to teach about the necessity of possessing supernatural faith versus a natural understanding. In Mark 14:38 Jesus also uses the “spirit/flesh” comparison. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. We must go beyond the natural to understand the supernatural. In 1 Cor. 2:14,3:3; Rom 8:5; and Gal. 5:17, Paul also uses the “spirit/flesh” comparison to teach that unspiritual people are not receiving the gift of faith. They are still “in the flesh John 6:63 - Protestants often argue that Jesus’ use of the phrase “the spirit gives life” shows that Jesus was only speaking symbolically. However, Protestants must explain why there is not one place in Scripture where “spirit” means “symbolic.” As we have seen, the use of “spirit” relates to supernatural faith. What words are spirit and life? The words that we must eat Jesus’ flesh and drink His blood, or we have no life in us John 6:66-67 - many disciples leave Jesus, rejecting this literal interpretation that we must eat His flesh and drink His blood. At this point, these disciples really thought Jesus had lost His mind. If they were wrong about the literal interpretation, why wouldn’t Jesus, the Great Teacher, have corrected them? Why didn’t Jesus say, “Hey, come back here, I was only speaking symbolically!”? Because they understood correctly John 3:5,11; Matt. 16:11-12 - here are some examples of Jesus correcting wrong impressions of His teaching. In the Eucharistic discourse, Jesus does not correct the scandalized disciples Anyway, the Church always maintained this truth of the Christian faith. The deviation occurs later in reformers. Hence why we must reject Protestantism. In light of all this information I have personally decided it's all a sham. A clever ruse by Satan to prevent you for obtaining the Eucharist.

It sounds like you have found a solid Bible-based full-council church. A good church is ESSENTIAL to have a life/community that provides the needed foundation in life.

P.S. The fact you are watching Todd says a lot.

What part of Florida and what church is this if I may ask

What is the one question?

Is this the Church Jesus found? Or in other words does it follow apostolic succession?

If you need a new Church home I can help you find the one Jesus actually made. The only Church that actually exists. The Catholic Church.

Really? If you deny the first chapter of the Bible, then you are starting down a slippery slope of denying other teachings of the Bible. Who are you to tell GOD what is true in His Word or not. I suggest you go to the website answersingenesis. They stick with what Genesis 1 (God!) says. Also, check out Ray Comfort.

I agree with you about the (un)importance of that doctrine and I agree with William Lane Craig about the age of the universe

It's not an essential doctrine? If you deny Genesis One, what stops you from going down a slippery slope of denying other teachings? Who are we as sinners to tell God what is essential in His Word, and what is not essential?

@@user-mj9ti4zz8c It's not denying Genesis 1 to deny a literal 7-day creation. It's a question of different interpretations.

I read men like Ken Ham, Tim LaHaye, Henry Morris, John MacArthur and my own pastor, David Jeremiah. They all teach that the Hebrew word in Genesis 1 is the word for a twenty-four hour day, NOT millions or billions of years. How can one misinterpret the word "day?" Sad to say, people who claim that the day in Genesis 1 are listening to evolutionists and not to what God says. If you interpret "day" as millions/billions of years, and then read, for example that Noah lived 960 years, then that would mean Noah lived 960 years times 365 million/billion days. Jesus rose after three days in the tomb, not 3 million/billion years.

If you found any, please let me know so I can check it out. I'm actually going to Nashville for college next year.

Really that's what you do as a protestant. In protestantism if you don't like what the Church says you just make another denomination. Protestants don't actually believe Church authority is a thing.

@@dman7668 I hear you. It's not what I do as a protestant. But I'm one of the very few. Many protestants don't actually believe church authority is a thing. In fact, I am a member of my local church because they actually do church discipline following the guidelines Jesus gave us in Matthew 18. Sadly, and very frighteningly, the vast majority of those who call themselves "Christian" in America, have never read their Bible and cannot even articulate what they have been saved from, let alone bow to any church authority or even God's authority. May God have mercy on those whom He will have mercy on.

@@thecrew777 You strike me as having genuine wisdom in this area. It is true, Christian's are subject to Church authority. You speak the truth there for sure. I am beyond impressed that you are saying those things, such things could only come from the spirit of truth. The Holy Spirit. The problem is that in protestant life, the minute one disagrees with their Church, they claim the bible is their authority and find another denomination. At what point do people accept God appointed authority? Only as long as the agree with it. This is why while I love my non-Catholic Christians in Christ, with the exception of yourself, and maybe Mormons, they understand this is not how the Church is to operate. This is what lead me to simply living as a Catholic. Because for me, being a person of logic like yourself, I can never accept the idea of their being multiple Church authorities. That to me is confusing. Have you ever considered that this is also why athiesm is on the rise in America? It's a private thought I am sharing with you. That due to their being too many Churches and not just ONE Church, that nobody can choose anything due to the confusion. And thus Satan's plan to divide and conquer the Church is completed. You see in Protestantism, it doesn't matter which Church you go to as long as it is a "bible believing Church" but that's so subjective! This leads to people not even picking a Church all together, since no church is really greater then the other anyway, why even need a Church? Just some private thoughts I thought you might have had.

@@dman7668 perhaps if I share, briefly, how I went from a jaded, cynical, ex-pseudo-charismatic (forced on me at a young age, thus not my choice) who had grown up to become an atheist, it will be of help. I hope so. If not, thank you for reading anyway. At the ripe age of 55 years old, I realized there was a resentment I had left that I had never really looked into and figured I should do so. That was this: I knew I had been lied to about God, but I didn't know what the lies were. As someone raised protestant who had been dragged to over 2700 services in 19 years (many, many different churches) my first thought was NOT to go to a church or a preacher. I decided I needed to know the truth about God directly from "the horse's mouth" as they used to say. A way to get the real truth. So I read the Bible alone, secretly, to see what God Himself had to say about Himself. That turned out to be the best thing I've ever done in my life. After the first read, cover to cover I was gobsmacked. Shocked. I couldn't count the lies, but they no longer counted. I began to want to know the truth better. So I read it again. Somewhere in that second reading God saved my wretched soul. I became aware that God was REAL (not made up) and in light of that was horrified at how I had lived my life insulting Him. I did a lot of repenting, and it was only later, when my desires changed that I realized God had saved me. So I'm grounded in the Bible in a way that many are not. Being housebound, I have read it about 22 times through now, and the more I read it, the more I realize the ultimate authority over all is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Once you submit yourself to Him fully, it's about following Him, not following your own "best ideas" anymore. America is almost completely made of "do your own thing" philosophy, so you can imagine how much I do NOT fit in to culture anymore. I hope that helps. I have great hope I never possessed in my life, and have only the triune God to thank for it. It is no longer about what I want, but what God says in His Word that He wants.

What pray tell are his personal likes and dislikes? Id really like to hear this.

@@gigiis526 all of the non-essential theological issues. #20 covered the important stuff. If you agree with him on *literally everything*, fine. But not everyone cares about a church's stance on YEC if it means they won't have the kind of fellowship they need. Some people aren't YEC. Some people aren't hardline Calvinists.

These three really are not as essential as you may think. Even the Apostle Paul thought very little of such gifts, for he writes that tongues and prophecy shall cease. As for serving members and fellowship, my experience has shown that these can be rather self-seeking and do nothing for building of the body Christ which can only come through the preaching of the Gospel of Christ. Certainly we need people to assist in the worship service as ushers and communion assistants, as well as elders to assist the pastor in the care of the congregation, but all these things are adiaphoron. In fact, your last two points are actually highlights of "seeker sensitive" churches.

@@k9builder Paul at least wrote about the spiritual gifts (and the passage you mentioned is one out-of-context sentence among dozens of sentences that speak positively of the gifts). When did he ever write about 1-hour services, once a week, where people sit facing the same direction listeing to ~20 minutes of music and ~40 of preaching? Is that in the Bible anywhere? That being said, you're reading your own spin into the question because you decided to disagree with me before reading it-- is knowing the church's stance in the gifts going to help *you* find a church? Yes, because you are looking for one that deemphasized them. As for the other two, the New Testament is replete with references to serving and fellowship among the body, and rarely (by comparison) talks about serving unbelievers. It commands us to love one another, not to shake hands once a week while the band is getting on stage and the announcements are finished. As for "preaching the Gospel", it looks a lot more like what Ray Comfort does in Huntington Beach than spending a month of Sundays analyzing the nuance of every verse in Hosea. There's room for this sort of thing, but equating it with "preaching the Gospel" is something unique to comfortable, lukewarm westerners. The church in the West is rapidly on the decline despite people needing truth more than ever because the thing we want from a church is a safe little box for our spiritual practice, which must not be allowed to pervade into the weekdays. That's why it's always 1 hour, and consists only of music and preaching. It's something you can passively consume- how American! It's even reached the point where people use the internet to beam it into their houses instead of obeying the Word's entreatments, "Let us not neglect to meet together". There's no time for obeying the apostles when they tells us to love one another. We only obey the Great Comission on a technicality. After all, we mention Jesus a few times while going through the Old Testament laws, or building an entire sermon around a single verse in Ezekial. We are in the same place, so we're still meeting together! Again, a technicality. It is harder to form relationships in a church than it is to fade into the background and be a mere acquaintance for years at a time. You finished your comment with a fancy sounding big theology word and a slanderous accusation, to really hammer it home that you don't have a good reason for your reply besides reflexively defending Todd Friel's banal opinions. How can you say that believers serving each other is immaterial (a word which, by the way, works just as well, and doesn't require a dictionary to use)? How many times in the New Testament are we commanded to love one another, even as our own family, even as our own flesh? And yet you're saying it's self-seeking and unimportant. Worse, you're saying it's "seeker-sensitive", which as we all know is just a sticker you attach to anything that isn't boring, empty, and sterile, to try and conflate "something people want" with "worldliness". I am trying to obey the Bible's teaching, not to modify it for the world. Nor for the church's comfort. The Bible tells us to live our lives together and give generously, to help each other as we have need, to anoint the sick and pray for each other. If it's desirable to people outside the church, so much the better.

One of Todd's personal like/dislikes is his insistence that if you don't DRESS UP like he does then maybe you don't love the lord enough and aren't showing proper respect. I wonder when jesus touches down on the mount of olives in what will probably be some form of shoe he wore on earth will he turn his head away??????