I hear you, but fuck snow, lol.. It snows 2-3 times a year where I live.. Just enough to be novel and cool. Edit: and fuck NY taxes, lol

​@@dre32pitt nah I live in Buffalo and love it. Sure we get snow but it isn't as bad as they make it seem. Besides, people are great here and crime is relatively low

@@whppnpost1 I visited a friend there once.. Love Duff's, lol.. Does it snow 2 or more months out of the year? If so, hard pass, lol.. I'd rather do the humidity of the south again (lived in the FL panhandle, aka LA or Lower Alabama for 10 years) than deal with snow like that..

@@whppnpost1 Crime still isn't great... not in a lot of neighborhoods. Definitely on the upswing though. I lived in Rochester until relatively recently and while I did like it, there are parts of downtown that are pretty scary. Other parts are just starting to revitalize. Buffalo is much the same way.

@@whppnpost1 I love snow! Retired to Madison WI from California in part because I wanted four seasons (and the snow season is quite generously long here, haha)

I’m don’t fully disagree, but rent correlates with home prices

@@dirtymike3329 maybe generally but not always. For example, median 3BD2BA house in Tucson is about $453k and about $$460k in Phoenix (1.5% more) yet median 2BD rent goes from about $1300 to $2000 (54%)

@@dirtymike3329 Where do you get that silly idea? Rents are tied to whatever the corporations that own the properties think they can get away with.

@@do9138 economics. More specifically, the law of supply and demand. Also, the data is out there. If you were to plot the median home price against the median monthly rent for a every city in America, I bet you you would get a r value greater than .75. Thus, correlation

I agree, I saw a video yesterday that ranked the richest cities in the world and they cited no sources and it was completely inaccurate based off every google search that I did.

​@@jskelly1979 And even with 2023 best states in the world and others they tend to agree with some states and cities but gets others wildly off. North Dakota and Alaska is such example they couldnt agree on.

What I like about Kyle is he’s also well-traveled and has been to many of these places personally. Really walks the walk.

Job growth might be slow, but even poor people need to poop in their toilet have good water in their kitchen, regardless of what is happening otherwise. IMHO - doing a job in a place with slow anything… would’t affect you being called upon to fix a toilet or helping people to have potable water to drink. Both of which is obviously job security if you have the skill to do so often when one “can’t drink, or poop”. I wish I had your skills!!!

Haha I do the same as a contract painter. Southeast hubs like Atlanta and Nashville bring in BANK for us. Remote locations or mosts Western states... not so much.

Maybe that's why midwest is often claimed as bad for small businesses because it's already oversaturated. Supermajorities states that had lasted a decade is often the worse.

The best thing about being a plumber is that you are always needed wherever you go. No matter how bad the job market for most industries may be, where there are people there will be a need for a plumber.

I spent 9 years in college, and about $200k of loans in today’s money to get 3 degrees in civil engineering. I was dead broke when I was 30 years old…. NEGATIVE net worth. Went into teaching. While I managed to retire early, I wish I had a skill to keep doing something using my learned skills. Nobody cares about my ability to teach properties of physics…. I’m financially comfortable… but not at all wealthy. I just got to where I have no debt. Not much past that. Other than volunteer work, there is very little I can do which utilizes my education and/or experience. If I could talk to myself 50 years ago, I’d try and convince my young ambitions to learn a vocational trade. Probably welding, even if I was just welding circles on a steel pipeline while I’m still healthy and over 65 years old.

I go to school at CWRU and love escaping to Brecksville! It’s such a cute town

Lakewood, Rocky River, Fairview, Berea, and Strongsville say hi... 😊 Brecksville is really nice but the Emerald Necklace makes "big city/nature" pretty common in Cle area. Makes Cleveland awesome.

Cleveland is quite a popular area for Orthodox Jewish families from the New York-New Jersey area to move to - large and well-established Orthodox Jewish community with robust infrastructure as well as much cheaper housing.

On the flip side, the taxes are much much lower so everyone's bang for their buck goes further

I imagine the massive tech layoffs that are happening are remote workers that moved to lower CoL areas. Now doubt when they get rehired, they'll be zipcoded and have their salary adjusted accordingly. You won't find many tech companies that are gonna pay you a SF/NYC salary to work in St. Louis.

@@peterroberts4415 Well, in the '90s and 2000s Minnesota, alone among Great Lakes states, raised taxes on corporations and wealthy individuals, and put the money into schools and universities. In the last dozen years, Minnesota has had the only growing economy in the Great Lakes region. In recent surveys, Minnesota has had the highest economic confidence of all 50 states.

@@peterroberts4415 High tax areas have higher minimum wages on average, so the truth is more fuzzy than low tax = more money.

which is why median is better

Where did you live Arlington? A new one bedroom a bit further out can run you 1500 which is reasonable if your making 100K (quite common here) people that complain about the cost always want to live in DC or Bethesda, Arlington, or Silver Spring. Go to Woodbridge, PG county or even further out in Fairfax and you’re fine.

Baltimore is seriously the most underrated city in the country

@@pjflynn5978 You are correct - I love Baltimore.

OOf, I feel your pain. I grew up in Georgetown. I seriously considered Baltimore when house hunting since you can hop the train and be in DC in no time for work. This was at a time when a lot of people from DC were commuting. I found houses I really liked and strongly considered, but ultimately I let the crime statistics scare me off.

I lived in Mt Vernon for 5 years. My rent was $650 for a studio and then $950 for a 1 bedroom. Beautiful neighborhood. Then I bought a rowhouse in Patterson Park and my mortgage is only $1350. Everyone told me don’t buy north of the park because it’s the “bad side” and that my house wouldn’t increase in value. But 8 years later houses on my block are selling for over $80k+ more than what I paid.

Any particular drawbacks you have personally experienced in Pittsburgh ?

@@TheLordmewtwo So far, mostly the unintuitiveness of the road network and the congestion of main arteries; it's mostly due to the topography, so there's not much to be done about it. Also the Pittsburgh Left.

@@Towboatin Thanks.

Hey! I’m considering Pittsburgh to move to, however, is it sunny or cloudy throughout the year? Google says cloudy for most of the year, but idk. What say you?

@@miguelcabanillas8539 "Cloudy" includes days of broken cloud cover, where you still see blue sky and intermittent sun. There are, however, stretches where it's overcast for days on end and you'll feel like you haven't seen the sun for a week or more, especially during the winter months. I grew up with that, but if you're coming from the sun belt you will definitely notice the difference.

Over the Rhine is near-perfect urbanism for the united states.

@@NamelessProducts Growing up we used to call it "Over-the-Crime" and it hasn't quite shaken that reputation but man that area is so peak. What a just perfect historical urban experience.

Everybody I've ever met from Cincinnati loves their city

I’m from Nashville and moved to Cincinnati back in 2015. Cincinnati feels more like home to me than Nashville will ever be.

Cincy is legit as hell for its size, four professional sports teams, good urbanism, and a great location to boot. If I-75 ran a little closer to the rail yard, and they actually saw the subway to completion, it would surely have a better reputation.

If you stay out of the bad areas in KC you never know they exist. I can't imagine any bad area being more than 5% of the total. St. Louis is a different story. My read is its all bad. I lived in North County by Ferguson. Polyglot.

@@rogersmith7396Saint Louis gets a bad rep. It’s actually a really nice city.

@@seanevans3272 I lived there. Not impressed. North County.

@@rogersmith7396 I’ve lived in 12 major cities and STL is by far the most underrated but that’s just me

@@seanevans3272 It depends on what you have seen and what your priorites are. If you could exclude cost I would go with London based upon what I have seen. I could deal with NYC under those conditions. I would have formerly said San Diego but it is becoming another Portland. Denver is just mediocre.

Thank you!

I watch from here in Australia and love learning about US states and cities 👍

No Cleveland doesn’t need to grow. That’s what keeps it affordable

@@amikagahbo2487 Lol. I'm gonna love showing you this message when you are desperate for water and to get out of your firey hellscape. Also, I have an engineering degree. Not hurting for money lmao.

@@RobShutt357 What Keeps it affordable is surplus housing. Every city regardless of growth can be affordable with surplus housing.

I'm planning on moving there from Texas since I'm getting very fed up with the summers down here. I have family that lives in the Cleveland area so it's an area I know very well, and I know that it is a great place to live as long as you don't mind the winters, which I don't.

Your post is unclear. Are you saying that Floridians will be moving to Cleveland due to water shortages? From FLORIDA? Where one can practically set one's watch by the daily afternoon thunderstorms?

You can get all those things in Chicago's north side. The price per square foot is $240 compared to $1200 in Brooklyn.

Can't you just live in an apartment and pay less taxes?

@@sm3675 Normally I'd say, "and what, miss out on price appreciation?" But in Texas (outside of Austin), what price appreciation? They still have nearly infinite buildable land, which helps keeps prices low. But yeah, those taxes are fierce. Not as bad as the Northeast, but still a big deterrent for anyone looking for a nice/expensive house.

​@@OurBelovedBungo Texas need a brake on growth for a few years until things settle down. Your Governor Abbott cut 211 million in mental health just to fight the waves of illegals last may.

@@sm3675 You're paying the taxes one way or another. The landlord would include it in the rent.

Laughs in Wisconsin.... tell me again about your high property tax....

Good to see a kind word about St. Louis and totally agree about its wonderful cultural assets. Perhaps the crime situation improves with the departure of the incompetent and corrupt prosecutor.

If he’s gonna do that we may as well get one for medium sized cities as well

@@Not_Sal 😂

@@Not_Sal same here

Tulsa is not a small city.

@@dvferyance Population of Tulsa County is only 672,000. a quarter the size of the minimum in the video.

I was not impressed by St. Charles.

@@rogersmith7396 St. Charles has a nice historic Main Street but St. Charles County in general is a good example of suburban sprawl. People who live there are apparently not ones who like more urban districts.

@@MrDEWaters My impression is crooks from the inner city have moved there because there is more to steal.

@@rogersmith7396 Why not? St. Charles County is one of the, if not the, best areas in the St. Louis metro area.

@@Compucles you can get pretty isolated from diversity by just living in St Charles

Yeah but they got shot at faster than they can move here 🤷🏼‍♀️

The combined Indy metro area from 2020-2022 has grown faster than any big city in Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Illinois and Kentucky. Nobody hates or kicks a dead dog..Indianapolis has been doing very well for decades, and it's combined metro is more than 200k more than Cincinnati's now and 1 million more than Louisville. It must be doing something right.

​@jeaniepemberton9535 Carmel Fishers and Noblesville is where most of the metro growth is and just last week all 3 made in into the top 5 safest suburbs in the US..Let's tell the whole story of Indianapolis not just the part that makes it look bad..Way too much of that going on ..Nashville is far more dangerous and still smaller and nobody says a word and Louisville is barely over half the size of Indy and its homicide numbers rival Indys

Florida is being invaded by massive amounts of people yet it is the flattest state in America. Most of the hate on Indy is because it's mostly flat but so is Dallas, Columbus and many other cities. Indiana is the 12th flattest state. As for crime, the state of Indiana isn't in the top 20 for crime despite being the 17th most populated state, but Tennessee is 3rd highest in crime and people are still pouring in..Despite all the hate Indiana continues to grow much faster than every state that touches it.

Yeah Cleveland has a great bang for your buck. Granted Ohio is a bit too red for my taste and there are some legitimate concerns about moving to Ohio if you care about Reproductive healthcare and LGBT rights. However there are several other Midwestern cities in blue/purple states that are worth checking out. Given the arbitrary 2 Million person cut off, many of these metros didn't make the cut like Grand Rapids, Ann Arbor, and Buffalo.

@@jonathanbowers8964 you keep worrying about LGBT and reproductive rights instead of economical impacts. Let me know how that works out for you.

@RobShutt357 if you're gay or a woman that matters a lot. Hence the references to affordable, prosperous small Midwest cities that also protect the rights of women and gay people. That said, if more people would move to these blue Ohio metros, wouldn't be long until things look more like Minnesota than Alabama.

Hope the move goes well and is as stress-free as possible

@@GeographyKing Thanks! If you ever make it back there, I can show you around to some of the little known places. Keep up with the interesting videos.

Welcome home from a fellow yinzer.

@@davidmitchell6873 Let's go Stillers!

Where did/do currently live ?

I had a great vacation there a few years ago, stayed in a VRBO house in Edgewood, slightly east of Frick Park. Nice neighborhood and conveniently located, although it does border some more run-down sections of the city. Hard to tell as a visitor if those sections are getting bigger or smaller - surprisingly from what I understand, Pittsburgh's population continues to slowly decline.

​​@@OurBelovedBungo run down areas are definitely getting smaller, gentrification is rampant. And while it is slowly declining, tech and skilled workers are flocking to the city for well paying jobs and low housing prices. Meta, Duolingo, Google, Lots of Robotics and Engineering firms, American Eagle

hugely agree with avoiding the car infested areas of Pittsburgh. I live in Oakland for school and my partner lives in Robinson so I drive out there pretty often, the change in walkability and transportation options between the two is like worlds apart. I ride my bike for most errands in the city, but I've literally never seen a person on a bike in Robinson.

@@orrsh2049 Agree. The only place you see people biking in Robinson is on The Montour Trail, but Montour Trail is the longest suburban rails-to-trails in the U.S. so is probably where everyone is biking anyway.

However, taxes in the Chicago city limits are significantly lower than most Crook county suburbs.

Yeah. While Chicago has its problems it really isn't any more dangerous than your average Midwestern metropolis (Lansing and Dayton have similar crime rates to Chicago). Like any other Midwestern city, crime is unfortunately concentrated in low income neighborhoods. If you are middle class you won't really have to deal directly with the impact of that violence on a regular basis.

@@jonathanbowers8964 However, that said, it's the low income neighborhoods that drag average prices down, and if your not in a low income neighborhoods, property is definitely significantly more expensive than the stated median price here

Nice!

Even in the city limits by the airport , northwest side, Menomonee Valley, etc

@@flyingbanana4179 Yeah its pretty wild.

Actually the Great lakes a ts as an natural shield. That's why Minnesota is much more colder - no great lakes to the north to take some of the bitter cold away.

The real problem is that the cold air from the north pole comes in through the center of the country. I'm in Chicago and have noticed that we have the same avg temperatures than Toronto despite being more south.

@@giacobbeperales5926 At least you can grow one kind of fig in chicago ha.

You talk bad about winter but it was consistently above freezing most of this past winter. Climate change taking the chill off.

Squirrel Hill, Mount Lebanon, Green Tree, McCandless. I live in Crafton and I love it.

I live in Sewickley. It is pretty nice

If you want to live right in the city I suggest places like Shadyside or Squirrel Hill. I live in Highland Park, which is close to the zoo and the actual park called Highland Park. It's pretty residential but beautiful to walk around in and still close to walkable areas such as E. Liberty. The bus system will get you most places you wanna get to in town, although sadly it's rarely on time. The city is more walkable than people think, if you can deal with the hills. The East End is relatively flat though. One thing you will notice is there are lots of beautiful old houses here, and quite a variety of types of housing, from mansions to row houses, most of whom have been fixed up on the inside. We do lack late night food options though and I wish we had more outdoor dining. The nightlife isn't great either, but then again I'm too old for it anymore anyway lol.

East Pittsburgh Borough is affordable, quiet, close to the city, and you avoid city taxes.🤙

I think you'll find Kyle has a reputation for handling crime in cities very fairly. Yes, it is a problem, and it's silly to pretend it doesn't exist (cough, CityNerd...) but it's also not necessary to blow it out of proportion, especially when you're considering suburbs and counties in addition to just cities proper.

@@maxwellerickson7066 Per capita crime rates don't make cities out to be the worst offenders, in point of fact. There a re a few cities with a higher percentage of violent crime, sure, but people always point to raw numbers and ignore the reality that rural areas are more violent on average.

Texas and California have a lot in common nowaday. Mass shootings, crime, taxes, etc.

Recent news makes me afraid to even visit Texas. I mean, you’re allowed to have target practice with an AR in your suburban backyard? That seems bonkers.

I'm guessing that may have been true in the past. It might also appear cheap to California transplants.

Unfortunately it's all relative.

This is largely a nationwide problem at this point. Low supply started during the pandemic and continues now in part because mortgage rates have increased so people with 2.5-3% mortgages (which is probably *most* current homeowners if they bought or refinanced in the past 10 years) have a strong disincentive to sell unless they absolutely have to.

Yep, it really is relative.

It would be quite high on the list. I always want to include Buffalo in big city discussions but despite it feeling like a bigger city it does have less than 1.5 million in the metro.

@@GeographyKing ah yes I see. You have to have criteria! We like our "rebellious little brother" and "underdog" attitude.

Been there and agree. Love the area- about 100 miles south of St Louis

Pittsburgh is better than Chicago. Pittsburgh weather is good. This year I did need to shovel snow, but one day I need to swip the snow. Pittsburgh does get tornadoes. We don't get lake effect snow. I does get cold, but rarely goes above zero. Summer are not as hot as the south. Pittsburgh rarely above 95 degrees. Insects are not as big a problem.

And Pittsburgh is more walkable/bikeable than Chicago. All we need is a subway/tram line thru the city and we are set

@@drewdorkhead The City is a waste. I remember when Pittsburgh was a great. It has no movie theaters, department stores, no reasonable restaurants, and no reason to go there. I live in the city, but I avoid the city as much as possible. I prefer the Suburban Malls to shop. It's safer, and parking is free. As for mass transit, the stops in the poor parts of the city has been discontinued, and a lot of the bus routes have been discontinued. A giant parking garage has been built next to South Hills Village for "park & ride". This is for the upper class workers from Upper Sinclair to park their BMW's while they go to work. The problem is that the office buildings in Pittsburgh are empty, which is why there are no restaurants or department stores. We don't need any more of our tax dollars foolish spent in a dying city. The City had a wonderful event call the Regatta. It was canceled and replaced with an obscene Gay Pride Week.

James you should move to Alabama. I live in the Pittsburgh area and the pride thing is here and gone before you know it. I just don't go. The regatta is coming back this year. If Pittsburgh is too liberal for you then leave. By the way Pittsburgh is neither liberal or conservative, it is pretty moderate for the most part.

@@davidmitchell6873Where do you get me the right to tell me where to live? The problem i have with the Pittsburgh government is not because it is liberal. The problem I have is the lude and immoral public display of the Gay Pride Week. My ancestors settled in Pittsburgh on 1840. We have seen the raise of the Republicans party, which dominated Pittsburgh politics until the 1930's. At the turn of the 1900's, Pittsburgh was the wealthiest city in the World. Did you know that Pittsburgh has it own stock exchange up until the 1960's? Under Democrat control Pittsburgh is no longer a wealthy city. There was a big shift from Republicans to Democrat in the 1930's. Pittsburgh has become a Communist style 1 party city. The shift away from Democrat to Republican will happen.

Yes, I used to live in a nice part of the city until someone was murdered outside my house

That's not how any of this works.

My grandparents lived a few miles north of downtown St. Louis. As a kid in the 70s/early 80s I could see that it was a bit rough but it wasn't outright poor (lower middle class would probably be the best description). Fast forward into the 2000s, last time my long-dead grandparents' house changed hands was in 2016, when it sold for $25k. The Zillow pics from that sale show that it was gutted and covered with graffiti. (Google street view of the neighborhood shows that much of the neighborhood is now like this.) Some ambitious flipper is currently trying to sell it for $60k. Some people pay more than that for a car.

I'd rather they just expand the MetroLink further into the suburbs. It's not much of a "link" when I have to drive 20 miles just to get to the most outlying station in my direction.

White flight. People moving in from Illinois driving down property values. KC largely completed white flight in the 70s. Still on going in St. Louis. They have armies of cops in St. Louis just to keep the lid on it. See Ferguson.

Phoenix has big gang problems.

​@@rogersmith7396Thanks for your input! Now back to our show.

Same effect at work in Texas, although there it's somewhat balanced by no state income tax and (in Austin at least) high wages.

He's going by the county not the metro.

@@danielfrancis3736 he's going by metro first, and then taking the central county from each metro.

What does that mean?

It’s like Newark as well in NJ…..it’s coming

Many neighborhoods are. Mine is. I live in a “vacants to values” house which means an investor bought it from the city after it was left abandoned for $1 in 2002. I could sell it for $260,000 today. Houses on my block that are being rehabbed now are listed at $350,000.

​@@catgirl6803What hood do you live in?