Definitely

I need a part 7 or im unsubbing

tech ingredients' original video has like 3 parts and goes way more in depth into the material usage, room treatment, ways to hang the panels etc

I swear audiophiles will never be satisfied with anything.

@@abdulhfhd This is true. But with these stype of “speakers” you have to think of the panel as the driver cone so you want to minimise anything that touches it as the whole thing vibrates so any additional mass or anchor points actually stop it from being able to move air

@@abdulhfhd your not wrong, but i think thats kinda the point. Forever exploring, looking for more, and how to better the things that you already have. Its the other end of the musical spectrum. Musician perfect their technique, audiophiles perfect how they listen that technique. Or they at least try to perfect it

Yes, please explore this topic more, larger panels for bass, hang with fishing line at the top only, ???. I'm new to your change and having fun banging your content. 4 Stars

Dayton themselves have an excellent guide to building and mounting DML speakers, and some of the suggested mounts make a lot of contact with the panel. Tech Ingredients put them on the map for me, but Dayton know more about how to do it right.

I literally jumped because I thought someone was behind me

@@nabronator374 Me too... man, I just paused the video and taking a breather right now.

That was just mean. There should at least be a visual warning ahead of time. People are going to break stuff when jumping out of their chair, bed or whatever.

@ericwheelhouse4371 I'm interested in using them in a home theater setup as well! Did you follow the video briefly referenced in this one (I forget the name of the other channel)?

@@TheNicomachean tech ingredients

It goes so much farther 😅 the science is fun but never ends.

This build is about $200 if you don’t count the amps or DSP

@@DMS3TV As I see it, the DSP device is pretty much critical, and amps we would need with a speaker anyway, though that amp would likely still be cheaper than a Schiit Vidar + a preamp that is the minimum good amp required for the Magnepans. So in the end, I guess this project would cost $500-900 cheaper than a Magnepan LRS setup after factoring in speakers + necessary amps for both options, and the DSP for this DIY option, with the tradeoff being it probably won't sound as good as the LRS, though maybe with more tuning of materials etc., it could MAYBE sound as good, and its not as easily to setup or move to another house. I'm still super interested in this project, and I'm still considering with this idea.

There is no need for different size of pannels. The way DML speakers work is that there is no advantage of smallers panels. A bigger panel can acchieve lower frequencies, without compromise in high frequencies.

@@3rdHalf1 Thanks, that's interesting. I guess I assumed that the added mass would impede the action in the highs, but add surface area aiding the lows. I'd like to get around to experimenting with them someday... but I have too many concurrent eccentric projects in motion. Lol 😆 And I think my next audio project will most likely be planar oriented or even maybe a hybrid planar-linear driver.

@@VIDEOAC3D Fundamentally DML’s work diferently than cone speakers. Cone speakers move air with the cone moving back and forwards. To get lower frequencies - you need bigger speaker cone. But bigger speaker cone has more mass, that is harder to move in higher frequencies. DML speakers vibrate the surface of speaker in all frequencies at once, that total average the frequency you hear(This is why DML speakers don’t have feedback with live microphones). To achieve lower frequencies, DLM speakers need bigger cross-section of surface(example: 1 square meter panel of 50x200cm. will be able to reproduce lower frequencies than 100x100cm panel). With the right materials(best materials are honeycomb cardboard, and carbon fibre panels) , there is no difference in high frequency reproduction between big and small panels. The bottle-neck is that to achieve lower frequencies the size of panels have to increase exponentially. And for sub-frequencies this becomes impractical, hence you need a woofer with DML speakers. Another quick note: To get mo-powa out of DML speakers you don’t need more powerful exciters - you just need more of them mounted on same surface.

So here's the thing. These things are not uniformly dipoles. The membranes jiggle like jelly so they have some monopole component to them. Either way there is a reflection and it does interfere, but their forward projection has already so much linear distortion, that it doesn't make them worse, just different kind of bad. However it's just linear so it can be fixed with EQ. Of course not all of it, but you can get it roughly to shape. This way you get a decent and practical speaker for not a lot of money. Just not decent in a HI-Fi kind of way. They have moderate to high nonlinear distortion. In a conventional hifi driver the nonlinearities mostly come from the motor and suspension, because the diaphragm is so well designed. Here you get distortion from the motor and from the panel. Luckily the pleasure from audio is not just hifi, but also from learning different kinds of sound and this method has it's own signature.

@@rhalfik Okay, interesting, what kinds of speaks are considered dipoles then?

hahaha binaural recording rigs are wild

Attach the exciter right to the walls? And let the camper itself be the resonance chamber :D.

That’s a scam don’t message it. Good traditional speakers are better, but you could build 2 panels and EQ it super cheap to sound great

That’s a scam don’t message it