2005 F250 6.0 cold start

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14 жыл бұрын

this is what my truck does in the morning. It has been cold, but taking it to dealer Wednesday. Have seen 10 different solutions to the cold start issue. From alternator and batteries to injector O-rings to just a simple re-flash. I am having a block heater cord installed on Wednesday also. The truck runs perfectly if you let it warm up to normal operating temp, but if you try to drive off right after startup, it has very little power and trouble changing gears until warmed up. I just drove it 180 miles to greenville and back, pulling a 25 ft travel trailer @4000 lbs and it ran perfectly all the way there and back! No problems at all after warm.. thoughts? I hope the dealer figures it out quick and at a reasonable price!

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@Kanesgarage 14 жыл бұрын

Your truck has bad injectors, and possibly a High pressure oil leak at the STC fitting on the HPOP. FWIW I used to start my 6.0 when it was -15 F outside, and it always started without much of a miss. Then again, I work on these all the time so I know when mine had bad injectors. Also, when it gets cold, I would recommend running Rotella 5w-40 synthetic. It aids tremendously in cold start situations.

@Kanesgarage 14 жыл бұрын

@Tleffew1 If you have a leak at the HPOP, your truck will be hard to start warm. Over time, it won't want to start at all. It will appear that the HPOP is failing, but it is probably leaking HP oil at this fitting, or on the rails themselves. I know you don't have this issue, but I just recommend that if you ever have to tear the engine down to replace the fitting, change the pump while you're in there! Especially if you have over 120k miles. Check the IPR screen for metal next injector change.

@gcso401 13 жыл бұрын

Ok, this is coming from a Minnesota guy with a 6.0 your truck is just fine. this is what happens to trucks whos owners dont use block heaters. simple as that. your injectors are just fine. last night it was -30 and my plug in for the block heater broke the week before. it took me an hour to get it going. when it starts this cold it will run like shit until the engine gets to operational temps. it wont shift correctly or nothing until then. dont worry, your fine. get a block heater.

@inodebil 10 жыл бұрын

I love f 250 super duty! With love from Russia!

@chief2442 11 жыл бұрын

i have a 2004 and i had the same issue with mine until they replaced the Injector Drive Module now it cold starts and runs fine.

@kotech2003 14 жыл бұрын

The clunk when the transmission shifts may be your slip yoke telling you it needs some grease. Be sure and block all four wheels and put on the parking brake when removing the drive shaft...grease the part the part where the driveshaft goes into the transmission...

@xDropzerox 11 жыл бұрын

its all about oilpressure in the injectors to operate

@strato_5459 3 жыл бұрын

i rarely ever see these 6.0s with the dark red. i have a crew cab long bed lariat same colour and i just love it so much. i only ever see black white that gross bright red and thats about it. or the navy blue

@Tleffew1 3 жыл бұрын

Strato_54 miss that truck sometimes.

@strato_5459 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tleffew1 even though they were extremely problematic they are amazing trucks i love the 6.0 so much

@Planetcontrol 9 жыл бұрын

Had the same problem with my 2004 6.0. It was the FICM ( fuel injection control module). Found a place on eBay that rebuilds them for 62 bucks. There's youtubes on how to test if yours is bad. There's also videos on how to install them. Good luck brother.

@Tleffew1 8 жыл бұрын

Yeah I ended up resoldering my FICM myself and that resolved some issues

@hectorcarranza4754 3 ай бұрын

Mi f250 2005 6.0 is hard to turn on when Is cold you think is the ficm too ? Has new fuel filters and batyerys is good but like when is +20 is hard to start

@farfromperfect4643 8 жыл бұрын

*The truck runs perfectly if you let it warm up to normal operating temp, but if you try to drive off right after startup, it has very little power and trouble changing gears until warmed up.* Well....I would expect as much lol.

@HillbillyTemplar 10 жыл бұрын

I thought I had a cold start till I heard this one.

@tmrufio 13 жыл бұрын

6.0's and 7.3's both were hard starts under real cold temperatures. Both use HEUI systems and the viscosity of the oil impacts injection. As another poster said this is called stiction. The valve that lets high pressure oil into the injector sticks due to viscosity and quality of your oil. The FICM has been updated several times with new strategies to free up sticking spool valves. It's possible a reprogram of the FICM and putting some miles on the truck will help fix it.

@carolinakingfisher12 11 жыл бұрын

Should have a plug under the grill you can plug a cord in not sure if that's the heater cord your about to buy or if it comes stock just remember my freind havin one on his

@gwb2500 14 жыл бұрын

I would get the front end checked out. The flash would not change the gear ratio or shifting intervals.

@mustangs761 12 жыл бұрын

using a head bolt heater should make it start fine. and if it takes a while to start up even if it isn't cold then its probably the injectors or just the starter.

@tomjaycox79 11 жыл бұрын

My truck sounds and does the exact same thing. I have a Banks system on it and have the ability read the ODBII codes on the fly. It throws the 0611 code for FICM malfunction. I'll be replacing it tomorrow. I really hope this works.

@cojessyka 7 жыл бұрын

did u ever change the ficm on ur diesel truck??

@ericrollins8960 6 жыл бұрын

Somebody needs some powerstroke help videos

@EFSforkliftguy 12 жыл бұрын

and revx didn't do squat for mine, ran valvoline diesel synthetic 5w40 and shell 10w30 diesel the valvoline ran a bit better but at 8 deg above freezing mine wont start this good, but it will clear out in about a minut, or if i plug it in it goes away, but i dont think i should need to plug it in b4 the snow is on the ground

@209004349 13 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the FICM needs to be replaced or repaired.

@NJFordPops08005 14 жыл бұрын

no offense, but I enjoyed the cranking. beautiful truck

@Kanesgarage 14 жыл бұрын

@Tleffew1 Sorry to hear about you having other bad injectors. Unfortunately on a 6.0, that's the nature of the beast. Once you lose an Injector, the others typically aren'r far behind. The other thing that fails on these engines, are the HPOP's (High pressure oil pump). They go bad internally over time, but on 2005 MY trucks especially, they fail right at the STC fitting. To get to it, you have to take the top end of the motor apart. Intake, turbo, Oil/ FF reservoirs, EGR cooler, etc..

@gwb2500 14 жыл бұрын

Disconnect the batteries for about 10 minutes and then see if the trans still makes that noise.

@gwb2500 14 жыл бұрын

That will fix it and you will also see some better fuel mileage.

@spankey0069 11 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a cold 6.0 to me...Im not getting what the problem is...

@06dirtyblack 12 жыл бұрын

Ficm..mine went at 110000..

@edgalax 12 жыл бұрын

ipr is bad, that controls oil preasure. it is under the turbo.

@bradwalther6599 8 жыл бұрын

try running Rotella t6 5w-40 full synt. oil with archoil additive

@semtech30 10 жыл бұрын

I always plug in the block heater. Cold starts are just simply hard on diesels. Update your tune up's.

@TommyJoyceSECURITY 12 жыл бұрын

Try turning the key on multiple times to warm up.the glow plugs then start it. Plugging it in to the block heater wont hurt either

@2222clod 13 жыл бұрын

Your truck is doing EXACTLY what my '05 6.0 is doing right now. When it first starts it sounds like the rods are about to come thru the hood.My diesel mechanic diagnosed it as the FICM. I'm pretty sure it's not the EGR, or injectors as I did the EGR delete almost a year ago.My mechanic said my batteries were about toast and if I installed 2 new batteries it could possibly help it did for a few weeks..my mechanic also said if I added a block heater will extend the FICM

@timothys3590 10 жыл бұрын

The Ford dealer is gonna wanna replace the injectors. Do yourself a favor and run some Hot Shot Secret or Rev-X in your oil for a 1000 miles, then change your oil to a 10w-30w below 30 deg.F. It'll clean the sticky oil side of them injectors right up.

@Tleffew1 8 жыл бұрын

I think I'll do this next oil change. I like the sound of what you are selling🙂

@timothys3590 8 жыл бұрын

+Tleffew1 For me, the Hot Shot's Oil treatment worked the best. It de-varnished the sticky injectors. You gotta run her hard for a while... but you'll know it's working when you cold start it and you see black flakes out the exhaust on startup. It crystallizes carbon and throws it out exhaust. The other HUGE factor was dropping oil viscosity to 10w-30w Rottella T5. Ford rcommends you drop vicosity to 10w-30w in 30F degree or colder ambient temperatures.

@Redneckbakkie 13 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a blown alcohol dragster.

@camdizzle7944 11 жыл бұрын

Of course its going to run like shit when its cold, diesels are notorious for that, hence the aluminum to cast....i havfe an 03 6.0 f250 173K,SCT, egr delete, coolant filter. hands down best pickup i've ever owned....always lets er warm up. if i don't it also runs like shit and no power.....love the way she purrrrrrs at me :)

@ZingHighFive 12 жыл бұрын

to anyone that owns a 6.0, im looking at buying a diesel truck to make the trip from college to home and do some work on the side and looking at costs considering a 6.0, is it worth the investment? i know theyve had problems, but from my understanding fix the head gaskets and injectors, and get an egr delete/tune itll run like a champ. is this true and should i still look into a 6.0?

@herfordbob 12 жыл бұрын

@timbalero613 I have a 7.3 2005 ford I have had it for seven year it has ran fine till this year now mine is starting just like that i live and always have lived in montana but this year i find that if i plug in my engine heater when it is 30 degrees it states fine if i dont it starts like yours. fun ha our dealer is a joke don't like to go there very often good luck

@EFSforkliftguy 12 жыл бұрын

Wish mine started that good, there's no snow yet and mint takes 10 to 15 trys, its got the right oil in it too

@deiselman97 12 жыл бұрын

it shouldnt have taken that long to go into high idel ive got an 06 f-350 with 6.0 in it and there was 1 week it sat outside for a week not pulgged in and after about 45 seconds it went straight into high idel so there must b something wrong with it

@VWgli2003 10 жыл бұрын

FICM. Had problems with my 04 last winter, and #7 failed. Ford reflashed it and it started up w/out any stuttering.

@superdutyfreak 13 жыл бұрын

@PensandSteelersrock thats because of the 6.0 engine it has the new FORD BUILT 6.7 diesels start up way better

@DCTraveler 13 жыл бұрын

this is called 'stiction'. use REV-X

@chris.saunders 11 жыл бұрын

had the same issue. it was the FICM. always let it warm up a bit even in hot weather so you don't ruin your fuel injectors. hope you haven't had problem since then!

@nickj9143 10 жыл бұрын

this issue is due to multiple worn out injectors, My truck did the same exact thing at 150k miles and i replaced all 8 injectors an now it can be -15F outside and it will fire after only one cycle of the key! and has way more power! you can start it totally cold and jump right in and go...

@xmodrock 11 жыл бұрын

i agree.. my 6.0L treats me well.. can't wait to be able to afford a tuner

@juniorssrollin 10 жыл бұрын

Check the voltage on that FICM!!!

@jessedymond2112 8 жыл бұрын

Diesels run on compression instead of spark and that is why they have such a hard time cold starting. Install a block heater if it does not come with one stock it should) and plug it in every time you park it and you should be all set unless something else is wrong. do not let the dealer jip you into spending more money when you do not need to. I am a diesel mechanic and have been doing this my entire life, all you need is a block heater.

@l2asalibre 8 жыл бұрын

people forget the 6.0 was not a common rail injection engine. HEUI injection is quite a bit more cold blooded and very outdated tech. the common rail fords are much happier cold starting.

@n.agustin113 6 жыл бұрын

Diesel needs heat

@cortan1974 11 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem. But I have figured out that if you cycle the glow plug indicator turning the ignition on and off 3 to 4 times it will start a lot easier. Then I go back inside and finish getting ready, about 15 minutes before I leave.

@frankym274 8 жыл бұрын

Stay Warm

@TXrapidracer 10 жыл бұрын

I used to have a 6.0 that did the same exact thing to me in super cold mornings. it would crank, but it was hell. I started plugging it in overnight and adding a bit of anti gel agent to the fuel filters. It took all the problems away.

@cj9712 11 жыл бұрын

its most likely the FICM

@cj9712 11 жыл бұрын

my FICM was bad for awhile too, but it was worse in the summer because before i thought it was a bad glow plug in the winter but the summer it was worse so i knew it had to be the ficm

@06cgmGTO 10 жыл бұрын

I remember when I had my 7.3 dealing with injectors smoking and hard starts. And that's the best to ever come out of navistar for the light duty market. But after two fords I finally wised up and just bought a 5.9. Doesn't smoke or chug for a second fire right up and injectors last more than 200k miles like they should.

@austinr09 7 жыл бұрын

06cgmGTO now you get to replace transmissions instead of injectors!

@Superduty011 13 жыл бұрын

Good ole 6.0

@MrCraigmire123 14 жыл бұрын

Well Tleffew1, i can assure you that sounds perfectly normal. you should hear my 2004 f250 6.0Leaker start up in -30 weather. The high idle speed is also normal. nice truck you got there. shouldve got the tow package option IMO though.

@the1996bronco 12 жыл бұрын

I have an 2006 Super Duty and it did this. I had my diesel man check it with his computer and it showed 5 injectors down. All I had to do was by some Lucas fuel treatener and put a quart of it in every fuel fill-up. Fixed it right up and she runs like a new one now! Hope I could help.

@camy365 11 жыл бұрын

as you said in the description, my truck does the same thing, very little power and the gearbox acts stupid. i get worried about it and dont let it get over 2k until its warm but its weird, ive just gotten used to it though. as soon as it hits 180 degrees it runs fantastically but even at 176 it just doesnt feel powerful at all

@marie1548 11 жыл бұрын

Yea thats the only thing I hate about the older f series is the ugly ass non towing mirrors

@mcc1327 13 жыл бұрын

I've been around these engines and have a little bit of experience with them. Everyone that I know that has them has either traded to the older 7.3's or the good ol cummins 5.9. I have never heard a "good" 6.0 powerstroke cold start. These engines are known for injector stiction so new injectors will help

@danialholt4174 8 жыл бұрын

Cold start? There's water on the driveway. 'Cold' is when you throw a bucket of water in the air and snow comes back down.

@Tleffew1 8 жыл бұрын

Cold meaning the truck hasn't yet been started that day.

@bluereaper6.472 7 жыл бұрын

btw that's injector sticksion

@retjarhead 13 жыл бұрын

Your injectors are junk, put new set in and flash the ecm to the latest version, flash helps a ton...

@the1996bronco 12 жыл бұрын

You HAVE to plug them up when it's cold. It will happen to a 79 just as it will to a 2013. I don't know why. But all the King Ranch trucks have that a regular XLT ain't got is cowhide interior, different wheels, and a different paint job...

@mudpuppy318 13 жыл бұрын

6 leaker, power smoke diesel... LOL

@got2go63 14 жыл бұрын

I have a 2003 6.0. It starts rough too. I've been getting a crank sensor problem code. Says it affects performance and range. It sure has. I need to replace it. Cheap part, just hard to get to.

@tuffnugly454 13 жыл бұрын

That's a gorgeous truck! my fav color combo. Are you a member of FTE by an chance?

@timstech5508 8 жыл бұрын

That's pre ignition / Detonation. Could be injector O-rings, could be poor quality fuel, or could be the FICM telling the injectors to fire too soon.

@IKhanNot 13 жыл бұрын

Are you grinding coffee or running a proper diesel engine?

@cindersnashes 12 жыл бұрын

@EFSforkliftguy my 2006 6litre was doing the same thing everybody has a cure from new bat fuel pump injectors new oil additives synthetics and the thing that worked for me is a block heater cord $25.00 at the jobbers -30 nights plug in and no probs

@overtenemy69 11 жыл бұрын

My truck starts with a lope in -30c not plugged in and I hit the high idle and in 20mins she is at operating temp

@GreenJeepMacLSswappedJeeplife 13 жыл бұрын

i cant believe this is a FORD struggiling

@MrZombies24 11 жыл бұрын

Dont drive right away! My 2500 hd (sold it, it sucked!) Couldnt find gears if it was cold.

@surgicaldrummer 11 жыл бұрын

its just cold.. mine does the same thing when i forget to plug it in or dont run the cold start i had installed..

@timothys3590 10 жыл бұрын

Your injectors , 2 or 3 of them , are working intermediatly (when they want} probably due to low fuel service pressure. (less than 55 lbs) Replace your service pump, which is part of your water seperater . Start draining your filter regularly.

@gwb2500 14 жыл бұрын

I would get the latest flash from Ford to start off with. I hear it is pretty good. I would have it myself if I wouldn't lose all of my tunes.

@SuperDuty0201 12 жыл бұрын

I had all those in my 2005 and it was the ficm

@timothys3590 10 жыл бұрын

rev-ex is just a temporary fix for sticky injectors untill you replace them.

@badassouthernboy 13 жыл бұрын

FICM mine used to do the same thing

@edwingarcia5491 6 жыл бұрын

I got a 2005 6.0 f350 rotella T6 5W- 40 and add a howes diesel treatment I don't use any block heater yet I went true -30 don't forget yuo need to add some tipe off Anty gel like howes or any other brand the block heater only keeps the oil warm but no you fuel and if you fuel it's thick its gonna clog your fuel pump

@imoraless 12 жыл бұрын

I have a 2005 f350 n started doing the same last year I started plugging it in to see if it would help and it did. This summer it started doing it again and it's getting worst. Some times I'm driving down the road and it will jerk a few times and the power has dropped down. My fuel economy has gone down too. If you find the fix to the problem problem let me know

@xmodrock 11 жыл бұрын

try some rev-x in the oil and throw some 5w40 motor oil in there and it'll start easier.. but it could be a dieing FICM or some sticktion.. if you get a new FICM i recompensed a 58V with the php atlas +40hp tune

@DaleJr2010 11 жыл бұрын

what did the dealership say? what was the fix in your case?

@bz7139 10 жыл бұрын

Injectors are sticking.

@josephlogan5750 10 жыл бұрын

you ever find out what is causing this? My truck is doing the same thing.

@mikereed6597 11 жыл бұрын

You need to add K 100 to your fuel sounds like you have a combination of moisture and cold fuel

@carpediem0809 11 жыл бұрын

Might need new injectors if the Archoil AR9100 dont work, you are looking at around $4000 job to change out all injectors.

@djwicked977 12 жыл бұрын

check the oil level

@Nubbbie136 11 жыл бұрын

mine only does this when super super cold out, just let it warm up for 15 mins and you should be fine.

@TheJordanGraff 9 жыл бұрын

My 6.0 hates cold starts beyond belief.... Buuuut she's bulletproofed so I'll take poor cold starts (P.S I live in Vancouver so I don't worry about cold starts)

@staticjordan42374 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Graff how are those cold starts holding up on the 6.0 do u still have it? Or what happened to it?

@Manall4 10 жыл бұрын

i can tell by the video the glo plug module isnt heating properly

@underthecanopy3254 9 жыл бұрын

I live in NY...trouble starting my 2008 F250 SUPER DUTY...just recently she stop wanting to start...replaced the batteries...changed the fuel filters..changed the oil 2 wks ago...and now she won't start...don't know what else to do.

@ihaveheartburn2290 9 жыл бұрын

Buy a Chevy.

@ihaveheartburn2290 9 жыл бұрын

Buy a Chev and you won't have these problems.

@tomtom-lb4fp 9 жыл бұрын

Gabe Lewisis as if chevy dont have problems lol !

@joshlujan25 9 жыл бұрын

He said he had cold start problems gabe. He didn't say he wanted a sex change.

@tylerhumphries9064 9 жыл бұрын

look at your ICP Voltage (.25v/KO) and FICM voltage (45v/WC). also check your IPR (should be between 15 and 85, if over 85 you have a bad IPR)

@Mebob2001 7 жыл бұрын

FICM voltage

@auburn1577 8 жыл бұрын

sounds like thick oil

@DieselWorld 8 жыл бұрын

It's a typical ford start warm or cold!

@braveheart885 8 жыл бұрын

Funny because I've never had a issue with ford starting in the cold! GM on the other hand....

@stepheneckart1416 8 жыл бұрын

+braveheart885 Righttttttt

@tommybragalone1350 8 жыл бұрын

+braveheart885 ikr

@austinkoopman3508 11 жыл бұрын

big truck, needs big mirrors

@the1996bronco 12 жыл бұрын

Yea I like em too lol.

@andrewb9708 7 жыл бұрын

I sense a bad FICM. You're begging for problems if you drive this down the road while it's still really cold. I'm overly fanatical with my 6.0, I don't even move my van until oil temps have reached 120+ degrees Fahrenheit. Even then, I take it pretty easy until my oil temps are above 160. I thought all 6.0's came with block heaters, even my 6.0 van has a factory block heater. If you still have this truck, get a Scangauge II. They are a necessity for monitoring temps, figuring deltas, boost pressure, etc. They help you diagnose issues quite easily.

@the1996bronco 12 жыл бұрын

Dont fuck with EGR cooler shit. Waste of my 1500 dollars. Ramey Ford just lied to me!

@NJFordPops08005 14 жыл бұрын

LOL you're welcome.

@Smokedstackedf350 9 жыл бұрын

6.ohhhhhhhhhhhh noooooo

@Blackneck1994 7 жыл бұрын

First off I hope you aren't running 15w-40. *Assuming all 8 of your glow plugs are good and they are being energized... Just because the glow plug light goes out doesn't mean they aren't still running. Turn the key to the on position, wait 30, 45 seconds, hell a minute if you have to. It pains me to see people cycling the key after only 5-10 seconds. If you're still having the problem, I'd look into a stiction problem which can be remedied with a good additive such as Archoil. If you're still having problems I'd test the FICM.

@chrisdediostheelectrician2877 11 жыл бұрын

u must be tryin to start it up way to damn quickly cus in 20 degree weather i just turn my key, wait 10 seconds and it starts up immedietly with no problem even in cold weather. and my 7.3 psd has 260,000 miles!