Glad you enjoyed the 4S. I purchased my 4S primarily for the wide body looks, bigger engine and better brakes. I was also very pleased and impressed with the additional handling in tight corners compared to my friends C2S which also had the power on understeer you mentioned coming out of corners in your car. As you said, you can not go wrong with either one. The brake feel you noticed in the 4S is because the 4S comes with the Turbo's brake controller system which pre-loads the brakes and brings the pads closer to the rotors the moment you release the gas pedal. So it makes for a much tighter bite and responsive brake feel. The Evoms intake, which is what I have also, makes for a really nice sound improvement from 5000-7000 rpm. there are a lot of flavors to chose from which makes it easier, for whatever phase of life you are in, to get the one that appeals to you most.

I have a 997.1 4S and you can hit the Phasm button and then turn off the left switch which will let you have the throaty sound without the extreme tightness. I recommend this car to anyone.

The pdk paddles had me confused for a second.

I love your videos. I'm looking at picking up a 997 and find these videos very informative and inspiring. Keep up the great work!

Another great review! You need to compare the 997.1 to the 997.2.

997.2 Coupe Manuals going big 📈

There are reasons turbo's have all wheel drive, improves handling with the higher power. Same with the 4S. It is not about snow and rain, it is about the handling. Although all wheel does come in handy during inclement weather. If you can, take both a rear wheel and a all wheel to the track. If you are new, do it on a HPDE day with instructor. Make your decision. And as mentioned, you can't go wrong with either. A Porsche is a lovely car.

The hundred extra pounds is over the front axles and is a positive on terms of offsetting the rear engine weight

I was in this same predicament. S vs 4s. I opt for the 2s simply because I didn’t want the extra weight and I love rear wheel drive configuration. The c4 felt felt a little heavy vs the c2 in the front end. This video is comparing a 3.6 vs 3.8 so it’s not exactly comparing apples to apples. Great video nonetheless 🙂

Nice mods on the c4s except for the steering wheel. It'd drive me nuts having buttons and paddles that are completely useless

911: we use long wheelbase, rear-wheel steering, refined engine placement to overcome Congenital deficiency STI: EVO is for people who can't overcome understeer by themselves

I have a stock 07 C2S in manual and I drove my friend’s stock 07 C4S manual, and I was very surprised in that the C4S’s steering was much heavier in slow speeds and felt less fun to toss into corners. I actually didn’t like it at all. I’m glad I didn’t go 4S now.

How does the 997.1 4S compare to an e9x M3 in terms of driving experience?

What’s borescoring and ims

Only thing is....what’s the point of a rear engine with “some of the cons negated”

I test drove a 997.1 base and 997.1S when I was shopping for a 911. I ended up going with the 997.1S, the larger 3.8L engine with a few extra HP did make a difference.

Thanks for a very useful review.

Thanks for your excellent real world vids, Zygrene. I'm across the pong in the UK and looking to buy a 997 in the next few years and your vids are a fantastic prospective buyers tool for us all. Keep up the good work my friend. SUBSCRIBED!

Love that bottom end grunt!

Love seeing these videos. If you're back in SoCal sometime maybe you'd be interested in checking out my lightly modified ND since I noticed you haven't tried any non-stock ones yet

Where did you source your rear .2 conversion from? Fitment looks great!

not sure comparing engine sound when aftermarket exhausts are involved is worthwhile. just nit-picking really, the reviews all-in-all are excellent, IMO.

Nice video. I currently have an '06 C2 with an 4.0 liter F6I that screams. I used to have an '02 C4 that was amazing around the corners and do believe they track better than the C2's but I think the C2's are a tad quicker. On a track I would have to agree that a C4s would beat a C2s

Nice video, but yah. There’s no question the S version is worth the extra .. driving with the sport on is where is at 👌🏼✌🏼

The 3.8 is very monotone all the way through the rev range. An exhaust only seems to amplify that but I’m sure with the right combination of headers/cats/x-pipe it’ can sound better and howl more like the 3.6 does

Soon everyone will realize the GTS is where it’s at

What lip kit are you running? I cant find anything for the 997.1 C2S models.

Hope you get to review an Accord 2.0T manual one day

Good video.

Same steering wheel from cayman has no paddles and it would look cleaner

Great video Fenton. Just wondering if you've seen superspeedersRob's latest video he did on the S2000? Its the worst S2000 review I've ever seen on KZfaq 😂

i think your c2 exhaust got crossed eyed a bit xd

That's what I drive. Except I didn't check for bore scoring. Oh well, 4L engine should be fun!

X51 option on C4S...

The 2 or 2s is where it’s at IMO

Is it yours more high pitched or is the exhaust mods on this just making it seem that way

Hard to believe it's only 100lbs more

Lol. How many times did you try and talk yourself into really believing that you prefer the 3.6 to the 3.8. The only 3.6 that would be preferred to the 3.8 in a 997 would be a GT3 997.1 vs the C2S

Really don't need the 4 wheel drive on a 4s.turbo maybe with the extra power but no need on the lower power versions. Keep with the 2s alot more fun to drive and lighter.

The C2 is by far the choice for me. A much more pure 911 with the right balance. I even prefer the 3,6 engine over the 3,8. Runs better and smoother …..

I don’t think the wide body’s look much different at all on the 996+

Zingy how? Same rpm right? Revs faster?

The 3.6 sounds better.

C2 is way more fun to drive than the C4S.

Nahhh

Honestly for this money, get into a Camaro SS 1le. Performance, feel, and reliability is leaps ahead of these.