Followed the book quite closely, though the Soviet/USA bun fight on earth was an addition to the film.

Doctor Sleep was also pretty good. But must Kubrick purists couldn't stand the idea of a sequel to a movie from their precious overlord. Despite that sequel being based on a book by the writer of The Shinning.

2010 expanded the story of 2001 in a rather brilliant way.

To this day, when HAL says to Dr. Floyd "It is important that you believe me. Look behind you." and that music begins to play, the hair on the back of my neck stands up. SOOOO creepy.

Makes me cry. Every time.

David Harrison interesting thanks 👍

This sort of information could help desmistify Kubrick for his conspiracy theorist worshipers. Like I like Kubrick and his style, but there are some insane people that confuse perfectionism to some sort of out of this world profetsims. Like they can't accept that Kubrick could fuck up and make mistakes, they have to come up with some bullshit theory on how it explains the moon landing or something.

This comment is inaccurate and wrong. The actor contributed an idea about one of the transitions in this sequence of the film, that being the one where he knocks the glass goblet off the table and it breaks and then the resulting look up and transition to another older version of himself. The overall idea of this part of the movie was there from the beginning per the writers Kubrick and Clarke and was not the actor's idea.

I saw it 2 or 3 times at the movie theater

@@wildone106 Well, I was 2 when the film came out. I saw it when I was 10-12 for the first time.

I saw it when I was a kid . I was maybe 7 or 8. That was in the late 1980s on cable t.v. it really stay with me.great flick

That's funny my favorite sci-fi movie is NASA. Lol 😛

Around 2 or 3 years ago there was a wierd hype break out featuring *'a space odyssey'* as such a big deal and I actually took the time to go along with it. What can I say? _" I can understand why people had been so impressed by the Movie _*_at that time_*_ back then. "_ Im not someone to cherish slowpaced stuff. But the plot and the development had been mysterious and fascinating. And I never heard of the *second Movie* at all before. :D If Dave would have not featured it right now, lol. But yeah I pass. Cause Dave... lol... DAVE ^^ just described the whole Movie to me. ^^ _" Im afraid I cannot watch this Movie anymore, Dave. "_ _" Why, Hal? Whats wrong? "_ _" You know exactly why, Dave. "_

I liked it too. A.I. reminds me of dogs... Man took wolves (wild dogs really), and bred into them, for better or worse, the qualities we valued most. Most people look on Man as inherently evil and therefore any AI we create will want to destroy us because it's good and we're evil, or because it inherited our evil... But dogs don't look on us as evil, even when we behave evilly toward them. I like to think an AI like HAL would reflect both sides of humanity, but especially our nobility. We can be rather impressive creatures when the need arises. As Starman said, "Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you? When things are worst, you are at your very best" I would love another AI story that reflected this view, this faith in humanity. Who knows, maybe we could combine "2010" with "The Martian"... a very dangerous manned expedition into deep space to rescue an AI.

It was brilliant writing. The Monolith was as creepy and alien as ever, and now terrifyingly powerful, but HAL went from being an incarnation of our worst fears about technology to being a hero whose only flaw was an inability to cope with human deception.

Will I dream?

2010 for me is a superior film. I think it's wonderful.

The thing is HAL was never evil to begin with. He was acting like a human. That's why the human actors act so cold and wooden. The idea is to question the boundaries between man and machine. HAL is the true human onboard the Discovery. And as any human caught in a lie with severe implications, he tries to cover for himself the best way he can. And in the movie he also talks about the mission all the time, showing how important he considers it. And frankly, once he becomes aware that Poole and Bowman intend to kill him, he again acts like any normal person would. It's just self-preservation.

^^^THIS^^^

Tim Miller and Rian Johnson are available

@@markblum5059 ^^^NOT THAT^^^

SyFy Channel announced a few years ago they were going to do 3001 (with Ridley Scott producing), though not sure if it's still on or aborted. It'd be interesting to see the Europan creatures.

I agree.

The scene where she asks him to tell him about Kentucky - I'd almost call that genius writing. It's so human, and so easy to relate to.

@@davisn456 "Tastes like bourbon and plastic ..."

@@rengarcia5189 Floyd was glad to have it after being "on the wagon" (asleep) for months!! ; )

@Daniel Appleton I've not read the book. I thought the performances and situations perfectly encapsulated the Cold War tensions between the US and USSR--good people on both sides who ideologically couldn't see eye to eye. The eventual friendship and respect built between Roy Scheider and Hellen Mirren was so believable and earned, I totally forgot I was just watching a movie.

Helen Miren's portrayal of a strong female character would be unacceptable in a modern movie. Too much vulnerability and too believable.

👏👏👏👏

Dex Star Trek 2009 did that big time.

Plot!? LOL :D Writing? LOL, Character development? Now get back to your Xbox!

Piece of pie.

“Pie! Easy as pie. Piece of cake, easy as pie.” “Whatever.” Ha ha. That was a funny scene. 😁

Hard as tacks

Woah. I love the miniature craft shots in the film.

And they look really real. Not the cartoons we see today

as a scale model maker myself (hobby) I appreciate all the work going into the models that may get only a few seconds of a scene in a typical sci fi movie. A "lost art", now taken over by CGI, good in its own right, but not as the only "star" or "plot" of a film!!

I completly dislike the CGI done today... seems so fake.

I understand it would be sacrilegious, but I would love to see a remastered version where Jupiter, Europa and Io were shown in their true majesty as reveled by the JUNO, Galileo and other probes. The actual detail in the Jovian clouds would only add to the wonder.

There gonna need a bigger afterlife.

@@actioncom2748 😂👍🏾 I posted this on his birthday if you noticed!

One of the best--but most underrated--leading men of the 70s and well into the 80s

After marathoning the Jaws movies I came to realise how awesome he was. Jaws 2, despite infinitely inferior to first one, is the closest to be a good movie just because of how magnificently Scheider carried it.

Guy was awesome. He was just a real dude. Not your typical hollywood D bag. Thats why his characters always seemed grounded in reality.

Underrated

Muahahahhahahaha

Ask Alexa to 'Open the pod bay doors' and see what she says.

fuck u dave

@@actioncom2748 I like asking it to play Global Thermonuclear War or for "Tea, Earl Grey. Hot."

In the updated woke version the GAL 9000 will say "I'm sorry Dave, I have to make you use my pronouns".

The monoliths in Jupiter increased the mass of the gas giant so that it could achieve hydrogen fusion and ignite as a stellar body. =^[.]^=

2061 explains even more. Taking place after we've begun colonizing the new Jupiter star system.

The aero-breaking maneuver is breathtaking still to this day. I love the part where the soviet cosmonaut joins Floyd in his dorm, and both endure the procedure filled with the most basic human fear. Amazing movie.

I was 10 when I first saw this film at the Cinema around the end of 1984 / beginning of 1985. It was worth buying the Blu-Ray to replace the DVD for a proper widescreen version.

@@outtheredude absolutely. The ancient letterboxed DVD was horrible. The Blu-ray is worlds apart and the only version worth watching.

The only critisism to 2001 I accept is Andrei Tarkovsky's Solaris.

Now it's not the time to carry on with those movies as the wokification would destroy it.

Hear hear!

Perhaps a nod towards Arthur C. Clarke also?

@@zarkeh3013 Of course.

Red Dead: "This is a movie I've watched multiple times over the years." You mean 2001, or 2010?

@@SovereignStatesman 2001. I like 2010 enough, but 2001 will always be the original to me.

in reality, the other books need to be turned into movies

Me too. Always recommend 2010 when possible.

2010 for me is even the superior film.

@Call Me Ishmael Maybe, but Cuba and Venezuela may not have been far off!

@Mark Donald Yeah, little notice/respect for the 2010 movie, but I've used it to help "slow" friends who could not "get" 2001, and trashed it,......mainly because of their low I.Q.'s! LOL. :D

Thank you I didn't know that about the novel.

Oh yeah. I remember watching this as a kid and for the first time it felt like someone was trying to make a spacewalk feel realistic when it is done by someone who never did that before and showing that it's not just an easy task to do.

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Exactly. This scene stays... Never before was a spacewalk portrayed so intense, so dramatic. Its a huge task for someone who has no experience. Great Movie!

saw what you did there!! Good one!! ; )

Does it really? Some of the shots are obviously photograph cutouts being moved around. Still ambitious but obviously dated.

@@actioncom2748 Agreed, no matter what 2001 always looks to me like it is of it's time, especially with the fashion ...and the effects, while groundbreaking back in the day, are very basic.

@Tony Lewis Sell out? In what way?

@Tony Lewis 2010 was an adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's 2010: Odyssey Two

@Tony Lewis What does that even mean?

Don't you mean one letter away from IBM?

@@actioncom2748 That took me way too long to figure out.

@@BruceLinderDPT I can't wait for the 5D holographic memory glass. Something HAL would have had. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pMWoqbigrdOdeKM.html

That would be HAP.

Hearing the way Douglas Rain as Hal 9000 talks about The Black Spot, while doing the countdown is so chilling, yet ' like what the hell is going on' so full of tension

There's a lot of great movies prior to Hollywood got wokefied. Good work getting out of your comfort zone.

Good! Now read 2061 and 3001 for some real futurist sci-fi.

@Southern Slushie Chan you're an idiot

Southern Slushie Chan Doh! Muh conspiracy! 🙄

@Southern Slushie Chan Fortunately, I don't think it was faked. Such a vast deception would have been impossible to pull off without a fully controlled media (like what we have today). And honestly, a world in which the moon landing was faked wouldn't be one worth living in. Americans would never be able to live down the shame.

Yep. And it worked nicely, reading all the idiots who answer you. As they say, people believe any lie if it's big enough

What baffles me is how the naive idiots take it somehow personally the evidence that the apollo missions were faked. Not even accepting the possibility that maybe could be like that. Very small minds. I find fun as hell the fact they were faked

Acquired taste is socially accepted short-hand for Stockholm Syndrome.

@@agentx250 No more than being a male feminist

I agree. I'm confused, but I agree.

@@agentx250 No, it isn't.

@GuyIncognito Stockholm Syndrome is the result of the process of subjecting a person to a repeating sequence of abuse and reward until the point when they begin to identify with their captor. It's a method of brainwashing/programing. Similarly, subjecting yourself to something you do not like/enjoy repeatedly (i.e. "acquiring the taste"), and likely with people who "do", is much the same. The thing you're subjecting yourself to is the abuse, the people who like it reward you, and you eventually liking it is the result. The fact that you're doing it to yourself isn't saying much; especially in this case, where society at large keeps telling you that anything Kubrick does is an inherent masterpiece of vision and cerebral rigor.

You can't grow a good hot dog indoors.

For many of us, I suspect this was the movie we saw first, as 1968 was quite a long time ago now. I like both films for different reasons.

And you are perfectly entitled to do so. I think the films compliment other due to the different styles of filmmaking.

One film, with a very long "intermission" (longer than the one in 2001 alone) :D

I've read it and there is also a fourth 3001.

Clarke said that four books in a trilogy is enough :D

He also co-wrote 'The Time Odyssey' which is even better.

I was about to ask, are these books worth adapting for the big screen.

@@unsolicited577 The last two are excellent novels, but I don't think they would translate well to film. And with the current mess that is Hollywood, any attempt would be sheer folly. Though if you haven't read them, you definitely should.

I appreciated how 2010 explained how the conflicting orders made HAL lose it. "HAL didn't know how to lie". The final dialog between HAL and Dave was great.

to me it looks more believable than a lot of cgi i've seen

😂

I DEMAND HANDICAP PEOPLE FROM EAST TIMOR & CHECHNYA BE IN THIS FILM!

Truly frightening, isn't it.

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Logically, it would make more sense to use Jupiter. Much larger mass means a longer-lasting artificial star, and its 4 inner moons are actually in the proper orbits to become viable worlds in orbit of an ultra low-mass red dwarf (what Jupiter would become as an artificial star). Of course, unless the aliens hyper-compressed Jupiter, it would put out very little light (mostly in infrared) and burn its hydrogen at an incredibly low rate. Take Trappist-1, about the smallest size a normal star can be. It's likely rather an ember-red color and fuses hydrogen so slowly, it will still be burning up to 12 TRILLION years from now. But, this means its ultra-tight planetary system will be in a very stable environment for an exceedingly long time... a perfect life-boat for organisms. It's worlds also have enormous amounts of water, with 3 of them appearing to have at least 5% water by mass. This means that the one Earth-like world the system appears to possess would have access to inexhaustible supplies of water on small worlds with slightly less gravity than Earth and orbiting so close that travel would be relatively trivial matter akin to visiting the Moon, making their resources extremely accessible. And unlike the Moon, the alien life forms could replenish their air and water needs from the atmospheres of these other planets. Space stations could be constructed to harvest the gaseous resources from extended upper atmospheres of the inner steam world, while floating platforms on the probably global oceans and ice floes of the outer worlds could package massive quantities of basic materials for shipment. I should think Trappist-1 MUST be our second interstellar goal after perfecting interstellar travel with the Proxima Centauri system. There is no other system remotely so resource-rich and hospitable so nearby.

Wait. I thought 2001 (the book) was actually published AFTER the movie was made. Was that Kubrick's deviation or Clarke's?

@@wonder6oy409 pretty sure Kubrick deviated because of tech reasons.

@@wonder6oy409 He wrote the book while he and Kubrick wrote the screenplay. There's a pretty good making of book called The Lost Worlds of 2001 that Clarke wrote. Gets into all the nitty gritty.

The idea of life in a red dwarf system is… optimistic, at best. Red dwarfs tend to be temperamental beasts, periodically spitting out bursts of nasty solar flare activity, so any planet close enough to be in the habitable zone would also experience the full blast of all that radiation, probably wiping out any life before it even got off the ground.

HAL wasn't evil in 2001. He had no "choice" since his imperfect human creators insisted he was perfect.

Not Skynet though. Skynet was a good AI. It was humans fear and their attempt to shutting Skynet down that caused it to turn and in an effort at self preservation it launched the nukes at Russia and Russia fired back. The only reason why Skynet sent a terminator back on time to kill Sarah because again. It's existence was at jeopardy by John Connor and Kyle Reese as they would deal the final blow to Skynet in the future. It was a contingency plan.

That's why I was so into The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The insurgent T1000 and the competing "for humanity" AI storylines were missed opportunities imho. I get the whole AI isn't evil concept but most writers tend to go for the simpler "humanity good, machines bad" approach, which closes the door on further introspection. Oh well.

@Jeff O "Books are for gays" is the gayest thing I've ever heard. Well done, you are dumb and gay.

@Jeff O Said the UberGaylord.

Every time I hear "Discovery" I shudder.

Star Trek Discovery (STD) is an infected blemish on the name Discovery. It will ALWAYS be associated with 2001. I watched Sea Quest. It started out fine. It quickly devolved into silliness, though. Roy Scheider was always great in all he did and really carried the show.

@@JarOfRats SeaQuest was a marvelous idea that got corrupted by the realities of network television. It's no coincidence that the show got dumber with time, so much so that Scheider wanted out.

@@JarOfRats agreed. A great start but it didn't take long to muck it up

Ah spaceships named discovery. No matter is its a reference to STD or the NASA shuttle, either way you have a flaming disaster.

"2061" they attempt the landing despite the warnings. That novel never made it to film. It was OK. "3001" was an absolute self indulgent turd fest of an egomaniac old man writer, that moved to Sri Lanka and married a child bride. Don't read that.

@@STho205 Child bride? Wasn't Clarke a semi-closeted homosexual?

And some damn creepy scenes.

You're both right. That whole "look behind you" scene gives me the creeps still.

Remember the first shot of the Leonov entering into the space...

Haunting, and with a distinctive 80's syntho vibe.

I did have it on vinyl, which was lost in a move.....as far as I am aware the 2010 Soundtrack is not available on CD

Interstellar was not pretentious. if that's what you took away from it then that says more about you than the film.

I loved Interstellar and like 2001, it utilized the great minds of the time to make sure the science content was accurate and up to date. One of my favorite sci fi films of all time!

Piece of pie. Easy as cake!

@@JarOfRats right, "lost in translation" for Max! ;)

My wife said 2001 was made by an artist. 2010 was made by an Engineer. However the story of 2010 is a much better crafted book/screenplay than 2001. Both were written to be movies, as was his third novel. Like Empire is a much better story than New Hope, even though New Hope was more wondrous.

Exactly what is going to happen now with NASA and Elon Musk

@@echozgus well, Elon Musk at least hasn't exactly planed just to do an expedition but rather to colonize and terraform mars in the long run.

Very big plans for someone who hasn't even been able to reach the moon. With much superior technology than the apollo missions. Either he is more incompetent or...oh my god

And also realistically designed regarding the artificial gravity area of the ship.

now that i have your approval i feel much better..lol

@@danielgreen2788 Now I know how CHILDREN, like YOURSELF are called TROLLS! I wasn't given anyone "My Approval", I was just stating my "opinion". You do know the difference? You DON'T or you would have not made your RETARDED reply.

I suggest you watch it again. This was made before we landed on the moon, and computers were barley a thing. The aloofness of the humans is now actual reality. Look at people staring at their phones and computers. Completely lost to the people around them.

@Kunth Just the fact that you put 2001 and Avatar in the same sentence and that you drew such a bone headed comparision between them shows how very limited your understanding and appreciation of the cinematic craft is. Further proof of this is your trite use of the movie's age as an argument against its quality and your bashing if its technical limitations, two of the most popular empty criticisms among nowadays edge lords. So, I guess Nietzsche was right when he talked about the need to produce mediocre art destined to mediocre people.

@Kunth Ahh, the lack of originality in the structure of this response, as well as the simplistic and aggressive reasoning that passes for logic these days, and finally the continuous showcase of your cinematic illiteracy truly are hallmarks of the mediocre mind. I expected no less.

Yeah if you read the book the movie is pretty clear, not many mysteries open to interpretation. Both are great tho.

Well, there were 2 versions of the Shining....Kubrick's film and Stephen King's mini-series. But, it will always be Stephen King's The Shining. It was his novel. The sequel, Doctor Sleep, has zero to do with Stanley Kubrick. For decades, King stated that he did not like Kubrick's film adaptation of his book. I love almost all of Kubrick's films...but The Shining was a mess.

@@JarOfRats Guess you don't know a joke when you see one

@@carbootstudios2459 Sorry, just seen way too many people that thought The Shining was all Kubrick's... AND good.

@@JarOfRats Generalising much?

@@carbootstudios2459 I guess you don't know a joke when you see one.

Oh no, not the 2008 version of Andromeda Strain! 😅 I love Robert Wise’s film, it was so dedicated to portraying a realistic response to the outbreak of an alien virus. The 2008 thing was all the worst excesses of special effects with holograms and all sorts of other technology that just isn’t possible which made the whole thing seem lightweight and less scary. The absolute realism of Wise’s film along with Gill Melle’s ethereal score made it terrifying to me when I watched it as a child.

@@dreamcastfan Agreed! The remake was rubbish. Wise's version was far better.

the 1971 version is way better

The 2008 version was a Syfy Channel production... they are notorious for spinning out low-budget crap, even on the most popular shows/movies they had. Battlestar Galactica was constantly fighting the horrible budget constraints. Notice that all the books, photos, pieces of paper in the series had the corners cut off. Their silent protest for having to constantly "cut corners" on the show.

I think that when it came aout it wasn't that pretentious..its people nowadays that made it so

Some people cannot enjoy fiction novels. I am one of them.

The novelisation is excellent.

I too enjoyed it but I find them to be so vastly different that to me they don't share the same story. They are two different but similar narratives, each standing on its own.

@@Cyril29a I agree, Like Dave said the movie is cryptic and the book spells everything out for you leaving less to the imagination