I like the rs3 lot. But then you never try an M car.

@1975turbo great but know they have issues with heat soak/overheating with those, good idea to save money for an upgraded intercooler

@1975turbo no problem man good luck

Thank you for this comment!

now i have 2018 audi rs3 sedan, previously i had 2016 audi tts and the differences are big its true

1.75x here 😅

Trust me lol I was falling asleep

lmao thats what i was thinking

wait...is that possible?

omfg, i didnt even know that was possible. Your comment has changed my life. I owe you beer.

Hey mate how's the RS3 after first year be great to see what you think of it.

Did the same, then I changed to the Facelift as well. Another upgrade worth every penny :)

I've got the S3! i was tempted to upgrade to the MY18 RS3 sport back. Managed to drove a sedan and it didn't really jump out at me, which was a shame. maybe i should test a "hatch".

Same as me Sash. I love the RS3 a lot more than the S3, although I do think the S3 is slightly better for city driving with less turbo lagg but the RS3 makes up for that with its engine and sound. The noise just bounces off walls and buildings, I've had the PCW exhaust mod done and its great.

Nope, it does use more fuel than the S3 for sure but I've found its not that much more. Maybe 10% more? The problem is you feel like driving faster to hear the engine.

It depends what kind of driving you're doing. They're quite similar on the motorway/highway, with the S3 you can easily get over 40mpg (talking UK mpg, I know its calculated differently in some countries) and on the RS3 you can get to 40mpg but you really need to drive economically for that, mostly its in the mid-high 30s. It also does better on fuel with more miles and better tyres, mine came with P Zero tyres but they're shit and even something like Michelin Pilot Sport 4s get better fuel economy. In town/cities you'd be getting mid-high 20s on the S3, sometimes low 30s depending on traffic and how many red lights you get. Same route in the RS3 gets you low-mid 20s and sometimes high 20s. On the same route to work, I'd say on average it was 3-4 MPG worse, so for me it meant I just had to fill up a day sooner than on the S3 lol.

Hehe, glad someone appreciates it

Thanks Christopher. Always happy to change my mind!

Thanks!

You sure the RS does not have a Soundaktor? You can turn the noise up or down and it doesn't seem to be coming from the exhaust much

Absolutely sure. This is for the sport exhaust (which I should have mentioned, sorry). When you set the exhaust noise: comfort - exhaust valves closed; auto - closed in g/box D or open in g/box S or M; dynamic - open. Its the valves that make the sound different. There are also some variation as a function of RPM ( I think to pass the old type approval drive by noise limits). Latest RS3 is in general quieter as well (oh dear!). Your example may have standard exhaust.

Yes it had the sports exhaust. That's interesting and surprising to know as the thing is ridiculously quiet with the windows down. It's the same as the S3 which made me think it had one

@@JayEmmOnCars late reply on an old video but yes I owned a Prefl RS3 8V with the dynamic pack (sports exhaust and magride) and the above is correct, the option controls the valves in the exhaust, which open on dynamic mode. I agree with you the exhaust is quiet in the cabin, which is a shame as the buffeting wind noise you get on motorways or fast roads with the sunroof partially open or windows cracked is unforgivable in a £50k+ premium car. One real annoyance for me was that every time you start it in the morning it closes the exhaust valves by default and you have to cycle the modes to change to make them open again. I actually wish manufacturers would remember your favourite setting rather than resetting to noddy mode every time! 3 other things that would be worthy of note for prospective buyers compared to my old C63 were: 1. The traction control is way too intrusive, I just set mine to sport every time I started the car to stop it cutting power in even just very mildly damp conditions where the car was fully capable of putting down its power. Actually quite dangerous in some scenarios. 2. The Pirelli P Zeros the car runs perform poorly when pressing on - I had the back end stepping out and the front end washing out in dry conditions - and the Audis run extremely aggressive front camber so the inner shoulders wear early. Switched to PS4S and it transformed the handling of the car to an extent where it actually frightened me how quickly it would take corners! 3. The brakes - the standard pads are woeful and if you map the car just aren’t up to the job. The combo of the one directional discs plus poor pad compounds on the Prefl meant they squeaked horrifically to the point of embarrassment in stop start commuting. This was fixed by a set of 2 piece Reyland discs and uprated aftermarket pads - at which point the awful screaming noise disappeared - despite an Audi dealer telling me the noise was coming from the rear brakes 🙄

@@mred9161 it is a legal thing that they always start in quiet mode. Not the manufacturers choice

Thanks!

The sound though. RS3 for me.

@kamionkami1 You won't even have to stage 2 the RS3 and it will smoke the tuned s3 with a simple remap.

@@bsm3964 still paid $20k+ more for it though...

Mostly because I found the exhaust on the original R8 very quiet, bit underwhelming

I think is this video I mention that it's just like the opposite of a 911 - you drive it off the front not the rear

Gladiator Al Mousa The RS3 sedan: doesn't look as good as the sportback and less practical to boot (see what I did there?), double lose.

3/5 door in both S3’s, RS only available in 5door old models. Saloon now available.

Are you sure you're not my dad? Lol, he has a 54 plate A3 3.2 V6 with about 70k miles and is looking at an RS3 because it's his dream car... I think I helped him a little as I've recently brought a 2016 S3 saloon (sounds like yours with the seats, sunroof and almost every option available) and it may have pushed him over the edge to finally getting one 😅

Why not an s3?

Bill Shank I hate it, it feels so disconnected

Yep

It is possible but I checked the controls

JayEmm on Cars I believe the manual seats sit lower, no motors under there to worry about.

@@amritabhaktas you are correct, the latest RS3 model (shamefully) has one. In fact, it would appear they introduced it with the 2019 OPF model. Part number 8V0907159B.

how times change. Pre-OPF (which the car in the video should be), the RS3 sound was indeed all natural. These days, they all have the sound module :(

machidaman Is it the 80's still? Having a hatchback is worth less than a trunk? Come back to the present.

@@froesesp Did my post upset you? Bless.

The RS3 hits the perfect overlap between luxury, sport, comfort, exotic car, practicality, handling, name recognition, style, cost, and compactness that many wealthy urban Europeans lust after on narrow streets and if they can only buy one car due to space etc.

machidaman Just stating facts.

I agree with you, I could never justify that kind of money for that car, James has done reviews on my cars, I have the S8 and although used cost 20k less than this just over 2 years old, its 100 times what this car can ever be, (new its mental money heading towards 100K) the RS3 appeals to its market well and that's it, 53k is a joke in my opinion, and it lacks features an RS3 or any car at 53k should have, id feel short changed.

He said that in the video...

RS3 wins hands down. Wish he would have used a newer facelist S3 for this video.

On the website they were not showing a new 3 door hatch anymore

So I have been told, all the more disappointing it does not sound better with the windows down

Ah, but the car will still be lighter no matter which one I'm sitting in won't it?

You could, although it won't be quite the same

It's the sound, isn't it?

Another thought; maybe you should have a discussion sometime about paddles on the steering wheel or steering column? Having driven both I'm a steering column man as I like to know exactly where they are and not have to spend a little time thinking about where they are when throwing it around corners.

Keith, there is a manual mode where it only downshifts if its about to stall, and I am also a column mounted paddle guy

Thanks for the reply matey, sounds like it's very similar to my Trophy then. I love the 'Race' mode which means manual and no aids like traction ... etc.

We don't get the luxury of choosing what we have access to

Why did they discontinue the manual S3?

Emissions

Need for Speed Passion I had a 2017 s3 and 2018 RS3. RS3 is a leagues better. Steering, handling and motors. No comparison

Sapient Budgie I was talking 0-60 about the S3 Never mentioned steering buddy.

0-60 an RS3 will murder an S3. I've launched both about 100x. 3.7 seconds to about 4.7.

@@blackflagpirate3444 S3 is quite a bit slower to 60mph, there isn't a comparison in 0-60

Robbie Marshall 252bhp per tonne the RS3 The 2013 S3 is 209BHP per tonne.The difference in 0-60 is 0.7 secs.Considering the RS is five years young is not that impressive.My TTs DSG on the REVO stage one is pushing 246bhp per tonne.Mine is 2009 plate..

Ryan Mccormick i hope your kids can fit in the frunk 🤗

Ahmad Al-Ajeel ha! That's a point Ahmad!

Please send me the link to a 50k 997 turbo?

Nick Sinclair AutoTrader there are loads for that money and even sub 50k.

£50k for a 997 turbo!!! With £50k you'd be lucky to buy a car like mine. There is no such thing as a £50k 997 turbo !

The point is, is it worth spending the extra money or is it not

JayEmm on They're so far apart on price there really is no comparison. Apart from them both being Audi and based on an A3. A half spec RS3 is 50k.. You do get what you pay for. I didn't watch the video but I'm guessing that's the obvious answer.

If you watch maybe you'd be surprised

JayEmm on Cars ok you got me. I'll have a watch in a bit.