I came here to watch rav4 and cvr, i wounder why it switched to infinity and volvo

I'm not sure why I felt so intense during the tailgate race. Strange.

This cars are tie they just different Honda crv fast but I don't like it. Toyota RAV4 is simple car I like the style and I don't care about the inside I care about the engine and anything else. I pick rav 4

I would of liked to see some other crossovers in this comparison like the forester and cx5

Great job an unbiased review nathan!

this was a very helpful comparison video for Rav 4 and CRV

Toyota needs to give more clearance

To the TFL Car team, could you PLEASE(!!!) go back to the "old" way of reviewing cars?? Who cares how fast a crossover goes around a track honestly?! Take the Audi S5 review you made, THAT was a PROPER review on a real ROAD (waaay more entertaining than going around a track)! At least you still do off-road reviews (which are cool btw)

M&S tires is just a tread to void ratio. regular all season tires are M&S (M+S) anyway.

They should do an add-on vid to address the vibration issues in the 2015 CRV (new CVT). I think that would change the final verdict.

I like the longer videos and new format a lot! I would really like to see a ruts and guts with the 2015 subaru forester 2.5 though (I just bought one)

FYI 3.0L T6 Volvos are always faster without brake torquing them. If you brake torque it the turbo doesn't go into overboost mode. It's best to just floor it off idle

The star system should work. I would recommend establishing a baseline for the bottom end at least! I think they can be both entertaining and clean enough to share with Church people.

Watching in 2023. Buying a 17-18 rav4 in a few weeks because I don’t like the new ones. Good review!

The rating system should be: • Ice • Snow • Sleet •Rain Abbreviated as ISSR

Great review! As a longtime honda fan/buyer, we were comparing the 2013/14 RAV4 to the 2014 cr-v and what I knew that the 2015 cr-v would be. The RAV4 won by a slight margin and we love it. You got most of our reasons captured. At the time the cr-v had no bells and whistles either. But the prospect of waiting for the cr-v to refresh a bit in 2015 meant a cvt which I didn't necessarily want. Love that you can press a button in the rav to distribute 50/50 power. Thanks for doing this one...you're the only ones to do this type of review that I've seen. Or acknowledge the diff. Lock button. Just be sure it's in 'sport' mode at the same time!

put the SAME tires on the comparitive cars...

I am a TOTAL Honda fanboy, but even I'd give both of them a buy it. The CR-V is fantastic (and as you'd expect I think it's better than the RAV4) however I still think the RAV4 is a fantastic car!

In the opening montage, it shows you spinning out in a new '15 Challenger RT Classic. When will that review be uploaded?

Thank you for your help on the rav4😊❤👌🇬🇧

2015 Honda CR-V- Does the adaptive cruise control feature work from 0 mph to 120 mph? Any limitations? Does it brake completely automatically and start driving automatically after braking completely? does it have the “Active Cruise Control with Stop&Go function”?

You have awesome review videos! Also, I like your star system for ratings. Instead of Nathan holding up a sheet with ratings on it that is hard for us to see, you should use on screen graphics to display the ratings; at the end of the video have a graphic that summarizes the pro's and cons' of each vehicle, including your rating system. Keep up the good work, your videos are always improving and excellent.

I humbly submit rocks as a rating system. But not just numbers of rocks. Include sizes as well. From Pebbles to Boulders

34k?? I can't see spending that much on either one and the front of the Crv looks better but that rear is terrible still

Testing these two cars off road is like testing a kitchen knife by cutting down a tree with it.

I might be the only one but I prefer intros of like 3s length (like Autocar has) over these tens-of-seconds. Also I believe the segment the Infiniti and the Volvo fall into is not a luxury one, but rather a premium segment. Cheers

If you buy one of these do they come with different tires for different parts of the country?

How does the Mazda CX-5 stack up to the RAV4 and CR-V reliability and longevity wise? (Specifically 2016)

I wish reviewers do road noise level measurement at certain cruising speed like Motorweek used to, which is more meaningful than some features on the vehicles

MT got a lowly 23 MPG overall when they tested the CRV, countering its 26/33 EPA rating. The CRV didn't stand out in any way in their testing, but they gave it SUV of the year.

Next year I look forward to a similar test including the Jeep Renegade. I was considering a Subaru too but if they are too worried about flaws being shown I would rather not purchase one.

These are great grocery getters. I personally like the honda but not sure about the styling. Win for Rav for on styling But feels cheaper.

Another question: Are you going to take some vehicles you've already reviewed, like the new Outback or the Forester, and rank them on the new "Ruts and Guts" rating system as well?

When in such a off road way use the off road and the 4 wheel mode

You have to put on snow grip tyres on the rav4 . It comes with road tyres

The CR-V has more groud clearance than the RAV? In Europe RAV is credited with 18cm and the CR-V with only 16.8... And the trunk is bigger on the CRV with 589 liters compared to 549 liters on the RAV, both without sparewheels. Aniway I like the Honda better.

CRV great on roads just don't try anything too crazy offroad or in deep snow. I thought with the new CRV Honda would actually come out with a better AWD system, guess not. And Toyota get rid of the ancient 2.5/4 and go with a diesel or something. These are not race cars. AWD/4wd torque counts! Also diesels have much better fuel economy than old fuel injection engines...

Excellent

5:34 - are you sure about those numbers? In Europe Honda claims that CR-V has 165 mm (6,5 in, as much as Chevy Cruze) of ground clearance, Toyota says RAV4 has 187 mm (7,6) with big 2.2l diesel. Does Toyota sell different RAV here?

Just so you guys know, "self-cleaning" winter tires...is not a good thing. Snow on snow produces better traction than rubber on snow.

Burning tires emblems might be good (isn't that a secret pleasure of all auto journalists?).

rear seat space is understandably smaller in Volvo. As a father to 2 boys, I will take more cargo and little less room in a back seat any day...or I'll take my 11' outback which has plenty of both :) My bet is 90% of customers will by this as a 2+2 family wagon so space provided is more than sufficient.

33 hwy only for fwd type, 31 hwy for awd version

Subaru forester xt. Both CRV and RAV are great cars, but after my test drive the Forester turbo was worth the extra 2k.

I say you rate them on a balls scale...

Whatever scale you make you should pair it up with like 10 being a jeep wrangler and 1 being a toyota carolla.

The CR-V and RAV4 look so similar it's almost sad.

lol, "honda has taken it both ways" sounds about right.

Looks like will be a good video...

Vtec kicked in during the tailgate race

These are NOT true M&S tires on the both vehicles. These are apparently all-season tires designated for use at wide temperature ranges on a hard pavement rather than snow or slush, and it's quite strange to see that much attention to the "grip" in this video. One's got to be a moron going up a mountain in a descent snowfall with tires like these. The review also lacks some details about the crucial off-road features like the VST, presence of diff locks.

Volvo really needs to explain the differences in their standard program and sport. I continue to see reviewers use the transmission sport and then complain about understeer. Volvo implements a very Jekyll and Hyde system in their AWD vehicles. Engage transmission sport and change DSTC to sport and you'll find a very different feel at the front as well power on rotation in tight corners. The current XC60 T6 AWD Sport can quite easily 4 wheel drift around tight corners if set up correctly.

Having problems with RAV4 gripping in snow? Because you need winter Hercules, Avalanche tires with teeth. Road noise is a bit noticeable with these tires on dry pavement because of the deep lugs and they are deliberately soft, but the car just loves them and knows how to use 'em. 2 beefs. 1/The plastic trim around wells? No good. They need an impact class plastic not whats on them. They easily will give you a hairline crack . 2/ Engineering could have rearranged the oil pan turn of the exhaust pipe and moved it up a bit. It's the only thing that drops the overall clearance an inch, and that's the worst place to have it.

4:27 Error 404 Diff Lock not found, please refresh the vehicle.

I just bought the rav so I hope it wins.

Can you guys do the 2015 jeep liberty?

How about a "Wheel Rating" for Ruts and Guts. 4 Wheels is the highest and good offroad, and low score is a 1-2 wheeler. Just imagine a SUV getting a 1 wheel rating on its AWD version.

those are high way tires to me.

I like the Honda CR-V Rims

It's "Ride Height", not "Ride Heith", lol. Decent review. 2015 Honda wins, IMO.

The Ruts and Guts rating would be best quoted as RUTS... It makes sense too; a tire with a higher Ruts rating would be one that gets you farther up the trail- the better tire. Yep.. Very simple.. 1 Rut to 7 Ruts ... Straight forward meaning... Not sure why one would choose to buy the Honda over the Toyota when you state that the AWD drive system is better on the Toyota. Then you have a CVT vs a conventional trans ( and issues that come up with CVT's like winding up, inability to pass as much torque, etc ) - so not sure why one would choose the Honda; looks is like a fad, and getting from point A to point C is the reason for a vehicle, and mechanically, it seems that the better vehicle is the RAV4.

do it for honda crv vs mazda cx 5

When considering off-road capability, wheel travel is important. The more flex there is the better the traction off road. You should always consider this with crossovers. They usually don't have enough flex and travel for off road and can easily unload a wheel and even two diagonally then it's up to the traction control to keep you going forward if it can distribute torque or use the old trick in braking with power to fool the differentials. Maybe the CRV has easier flex that keeps the tires on the ground longer and fools you into thinking the tires were better (though they may very well be better.)

When we going to see Cadillac CTS VSPORT v. Mercedes C400

I say you use the rating system using a billy goat. The reason is these aren't really off road cars and if they do well off road we refer to it as a little billy goat.

Only if they changed the rear of RAV4

Scotty kilmer channel chose the rav 4 over the crv, and this guy has 40+ yrs experience in fixing cars, unlike some that knows nothing about fixing cars

I think we need to know what gets 10 points, what is the top end of your scale? I would suggest a stock Jeep Wrangler Rubicon would get 10 points on everything. Then you would rate everything else on that scale, so that something getting 5 points is half as good off road as the Jeep which was best.

i wonder if you guys had the diff lock on in the rav4 its ment for snow and mud

4:33 is all you need to know about the Rav4 and its "all wheel drive". What a joke. My old 98 AWD caravan never let me sit there with the front wheels spinning and the rear wheels taking a frickin nap. Then like the trooper he is, Nathan played it off like i was totally normal to sit and grab a sandwich while the computer woke up.

I thought Emme was going to be doing reviews. Is she on a different channel?

We actually Leased a Rav 4 After TFL thanks for the advice . I will say It's hers.. I hate it , I've been poring over videos for all years related to this model. basically looking for any model that shares that ridiculous center diff lock. we have a 2017 with only 3k miles on it. great for her the 90/10 split in normal conditions is fine and when it gets slick she is a nurse and will be driving the most plowed roads to the hospital. Now me on the other hand, Is there a way to get a permanent center lock PAST 25 mph? don care if it damages anything in the long run, With studded blizaks and center lock I would love to get 24 MPG 250 mile up north in Maine in the dead of winter. can i pull a fuse or some trick?

Nathan, good review, can you big guys seat at the front and at the back of this cars? When Emmy seats athe back of Honda it dosent say much to me...

would also like to see Nissan and Subaru and Chevy and jeep and other all together and then see the review,would only make it even..right?? ... yes?? and ford and who ever else i didnt think of at this time and all should have same tires on them..cool??...yes very cool...looking forward to this..very much so.

Yay! Go Honda!

I seriously don't understand why do cars in America always get big and old engines and transmissions rather than the new ones. Do you guys really prefer this engine over 1.6 diesel that CR-V gets in Europe that produces 160HP@4k rpm(25 less than this) and 350 nm@2k rpm(258lb ft) of torque(like 105 nm or 77 lb ft more at half rpm) with an awsome 9 A/T instead of the lousy CVT. And you wanna know the consumption... 47MPG city 58MPG highway 53MPG combined(rather than 25,31,27 respectively for this 2.4).

STONES! Use stones. Rate the 4x4 capabilities by 'stones'. Wow this truck has got some stones, we rate it at 4.6 stones out of 5.

Hooters! Or mountains.

how about the rogue?

Tires look they're balding

A locking diff. would make everything all better lol

Rate them by andre faces from 1 to 5

Is the new CR-V any better inside? I know the '15 RAV4 is just a ton of cheap, crappy feeling plastic inside. I've driven CR-Vs a few years old and they are just as horrible.

The 2015 Infiniti looks a lot older in design than a 2015 Volvo...

2015 CRV touring. Done...

Did honda get rid of the vibration problems with the CRV?

8:16 no such word as “Heigth”

hint: there is no "th" at the end of the word "height"....

I just don't get it, WHY SO MUCH FOCUS ON TOYOTA RAV4 THAN HONDA CRV? Rav4 has more screen time, everything shown is about Rav4, even the guy is standing closer to Rav4 and everything about Rav4 is being explained, even the guy is shown driving Rav 4 from the inside, than CRV and CRV is the overall winner! WHY, DAMN IT!!! Talk about being biased - Just saying!

What a fucking shame the Honda has a CVT gearbox !

Honda crv is the best no doubt and infinity and volvo i like infinity honda crv anda infinity are the best

Looks like you guys had bias towards the Toyota.

Señor

Did I hear a "height-th"?

тойота рав 4 лучше!!!!!

CR-V vs Subaru forester premium

Why are you testing these vehicles off road? They are not off road vehicles!!!

Rav4 is wiiide tho

What I get out of this is both CUVs are equally average, your ratings system is pointless, and for some reason you had some LUV* footage you didn't know how else to use. *Luxury Utility Vehicle. I just made that awesome shish up.

Toyota is a buy it Honda forget it