2016 Triumph Tiger Explorer Review

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TheMissendenFlyer

TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

At long last I get to ride and review the 2016 Triumph Tiger Explorer. This 1215cc triple engined adventure styled beast is Triumph's answer to the BMW R1200GS - a bike with which I am very familiar. The Explorer I rode is the top of the range road oriented version the XRt and comes with all the toys including a heated seat and an electric screen, two things the GS lacks.
Thanks to the guys at Hertfordshire Triumph in Hemel Hempsted for letting me ride and review their demo bike (once again!). I hope you find my review of interest....
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@happmonkeyballs
@happmonkeyballs 6 жыл бұрын
My next Europe trip has to be on one of these. Absolutely love them
@gunton21
@gunton21 7 жыл бұрын
another nice video tmf, I must say out of the 40 plus motorcycles I've owned over the years, I enjoy my explorer more than any other of them, I just love the torque, and sound of that engine, and the very comfortable riding position.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Certainly a comfortable beast - do you have the standard pipe on yours Peter?
@SvanbergSimon
@SvanbergSimon 3 жыл бұрын
Recently got my license and bought a tiger Explorer for my first bike. I drove both a Honda vfr 750 and a Honda Varadero xl1000 on a lerners permit. Im very happy with the bike so far and your reviews really helped me in my decision. I know this isnt the ideal first bike but i really liked the size of the Varadero so i chose between the explorer and a 1200gs. The gs is probably a better bike but i got more for my money going with the triumph. Next thing to do is to visit trollstigen in norway. Really liked your video of that trip. Overall i think you do a great job with your videos. They are informative, unbiased and entertaining to watch. I also admire your dedication to this. You are so dedicated you even made a review of your lawnmower during the lockdown. Thank you!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@TheDervMan
@TheDervMan 7 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to your review of the Explorer. Thanks TMF
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
I aim to please DM :0)
@WorldBiker
@WorldBiker 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how this popped up in my YT feed only now - and I can't believe I didn't see this review - but I bought my XCA in May 2016 after comparing the GS (which by that point I had ridden about a dozen times on fly-and-ride tours), the KTM (a little too over the top) and SuperTenere (that tour mode is so...yawn...but only now do I understand why). But the most important thing was, and still is, that buttery smooth engine for long distance touring and pillion (read: my wife) comfort. My XCA and I have toured most of Europe and Greece on it, it's my main bike for weekend tours and zipping along the Greek coast, it has been dropped and covered in mud and even snow-bound, and while heavy - very true - it has been been without fault except for once; deep in the Pyrenees the engine warning light came on, gave me a fright, until I figured out that a minor quirk is - don't use the kill switch because it confuses the system somehow. Six years in and it has been a great bike. The real downside, which seems to hold true for all but the Triumph sport bikes, is the resale value. I've been so happy with this XCA and the extraordinary service that we have from the local Triumph network in Greece, that the new GT Explorer looks like the next one for me despite the new T-crank engine (I dunno - those triples were pretty near perfect, I haven't yet done a test ride) or the plethora (nay! cornucopia) of choice of outstanding machinery we have today.
@JLOSTAFF1
@JLOSTAFF1 7 жыл бұрын
If I had an electric screen and heated seat on my GS it really would be the ultimate bike. Great review again - not always a bad thing it rains - gives you more of a feel for the bike I think? Cheers for now. Jon
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
That's true Jon...and agree on the seat/screen thing - a heated seat would be particularly welcome on the more frostier mornings around here...
@jackpeterson8549
@jackpeterson8549 7 жыл бұрын
Another great review
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jack, glad you enjoyed it...
@johnnykawakid
@johnnykawakid 7 жыл бұрын
great video once again, I olso thought it was bit of a lump in slow speed, only ever ridden the 1200 once, always thought the 800 was lot more manageable, and I'm 6ft, thanks for a brilliant video once again, very clear and informative.ta.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
+john bruce Thanks John - glad we concur...
@The33JAYJAY
@The33JAYJAY 7 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF I've just spent 2 hours on the XCA today and I have to say I really enjoyed it. Obviously I'm comparing to a GS as that's what I know but I didn't find it too heavy as I thought I would from the reviews. Wind protection good and cockpit much better than BM. Engine is awesome and so smooth and the sound from 6000-8000 revs is really addictive. I have a big decision to make now as its around the GSA price bracket (which I hope to ride next week). Decisions, Decisions !! All the best, JJ
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting....for me it would be a no brainer, I found the GSA to be a hugely more capable bike in every department - good job we're not all the same eh?
@The33JAYJAY
@The33JAYJAY 7 жыл бұрын
Did you find the GSA to be about the same weight as the Explorer?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Nope, it felt much lighter to me due the low COG - The big Trumpet I felt like I could drop at any moment when I stopped....
@daveb785
@daveb785 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your cool reviews... Note: I just bought a Tiger 1200 (2017) and really like it. I do not feel like it will fall when I am stopped. It is very stable for me (6"0" 185 lbs).. I was thinking about the GS, until I hit my shins on the boxer engine...the GS did not seem super light to me, although it is 8% lighter (40lbs?) Thanks again...
@LUCKas1212
@LUCKas1212 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reviews! Did you find any difference in this one versus the 2017 model you tested?
@Motacyclist
@Motacyclist 7 жыл бұрын
Great reviews. I recently changed from a 1200GS and tried the Ducati Multistrada, Explorer 1200 and Tiger 800. Out of those three I preferred the Tiger 800 as it was so much lighter than the Explorer and not as bonkers as the Ducati. However, the Explorer was much better than the original one I tried a couple of years back. Anyway, I bought an Africa Twin CRF1000 DCT in the end .... so looking forward to seeing what you think of one of them.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I completely agree that the 800 is the better bike, and actually felt to me more like riding the GS - the Explorer is just a bit too lardy feeling.....would love to try an AT sometime, just need to find a dealer willing to lend me one!
@Doticaster
@Doticaster 7 жыл бұрын
Great review man. Seems a bit of a love it or hate it sort of bike. I like the cockpit, looks very stylish and the general look of the bike is coolio. I wish I knew the theory behind why they put hardish seats on touring/adventure bikes, my MT 09 is the same, not too hard to be uncomfortable but not soft enough to say Ooo that's comfy. Tcrs dude ✊
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
+Doticaster Yes it's an odd one that isn't it, how hard/expensive is it for manufacturers to put a bit of extra padding in a seat! Thanks for your kind comments - all the best - TMF
@davidshipkiss
@davidshipkiss 7 жыл бұрын
Good review TMF, thanks for doing it... I think I'll be keeping hold of my GS for now!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
+david hippo Thanks David - and yeah me too - stay tuned for a direct comparison of the two bikes soon....
@stanleygardiner1780
@stanleygardiner1780 7 жыл бұрын
Like you I also have Triumphs as well as the GS and I'm a big Triumph fan But when I went hunting for a touring bike I tried the Explorer and really wanted to like it, but it just didn't do for me, well put together bike thou. Mind you my GS is having front brake troubles!! Going back in tomorrow for the second time! Let's hope this isn't a theme for the future. Wouldn't be the same if it wasn't raining on your bike reviews 😂😂 You really captured this one, well done 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Stan - and I'm with you, nice bike, but the GS is just better....stay tuned for another video soon on this very subject!
@stanleygardiner1780
@stanleygardiner1780 7 жыл бұрын
+TheMissendenFlyer consider me tuned in 👍
@rontheretiredone
@rontheretiredone 7 жыл бұрын
hi Mr miss, be nice if you included the standard price, service intervals, average running costs? good review as usual though!
@casperdog777
@casperdog777 6 жыл бұрын
Interestingly BMW and Triumph are (fairly friendly) rivals, a little like the Spitfire and the Focke Wulf were (not so friendly) 73 years ago, dare I suggest? OK maybe the ME109 v the Spitfire LOL. Nice review as always and balanced and fair.
@garrycane1170
@garrycane1170 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. I tested the same model last week and found it quite agreeable. I was most impressed by the engine but to my mind it could have done with one more gear. The only downsides for me was what the residuals are likely to be after 2 years and of course it is not a GS.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, if it weren't for the GS this would be a great (if weighty) bike....
@smiffter97
@smiffter97 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I find your reviews spot on and very informative. I can see you have a big interest in the Adventure style bikes and have covered a few brands. Please can you tell me why the Yamaha Super Tenere is not on your list? After all the Super Tenere was here long before the GS, Tiger and KTM's version. Also with people like Nick Sanders covering 50,000 miles on one and Yamaha technicians then stripping the engine down to find no wear what so ever just shows this bikes reliability and durability. Personally I have a dislike for chain driven bikes so I am only interested in the shaft driven models. Seeing as you have delivered fantastic reviews of both BMW and Triumph please fit in the Yamaha so I can have your honest thoughts on the best of the 3 bikes.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Smiffter97 - I'll see what I can do....just comes down to a demo bike being available basically....cheers - TMF
@OntarioAndrews415
@OntarioAndrews415 7 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Thanks for posting.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome...got any spare maple cookies? Love those things and you can't get them over here.....
@OntarioAndrews415
@OntarioAndrews415 7 жыл бұрын
LOL, no maple cookies. Sorry. I've lived here in Canada for just over 7 years and I don't think I've ever had them myself. :/
@allenhenry1113
@allenhenry1113 7 жыл бұрын
good review, the heavier the faster you can go comfortably and controllable.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Fair point!
@pnkfld100
@pnkfld100 7 жыл бұрын
Great review! I own a street triple myself and was looking for a bike with more touring-capacity. I rode trough Scandinavia with the street triple (coming from Belgium) and was pretty impressed with it. But commuting 150 km's each day, tells me that a Tiger/explorer would be a better choice for a future bike. I prefer the Triumph because of the great Triumph-dealers in my neighborhood (Yes, Triumph is pretty popular in Belgium). I enjoyed your review of the Tiger as well, and was wandering if the weight-issue of the Explorer outweighs (I don't know if this correct English...) the more modest engine of the Tiger 800? Is the 800 a "serious" bike to commute and travel for let's say 30.000km a year?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Great question! ....and for me an easy answer, the Tiger 800 is the one I'd go for every time...soooo much lighter and more nimble, a better bike all round and just as capable I would think (let's face it an 800cc is not a small bike!). Thanks for watching - all the best - TMF
@OswaldoLafee
@OswaldoLafee 6 жыл бұрын
Ok so you are a bit biased, and rightfully so. I am biased as well having a Triumph Explorer2014. I think it is really a personal preference what makes one better than the other but the one big thing I love about my Explorer (soon not to be named like that anymore) is that not everybody and their mother has it! I'm behind two new models and I will most definitively upgrade mine to a new Triumph Tiger. Once a triple, always a triple. Good review
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Oswaldo!
@derrickmurphy6162
@derrickmurphy6162 7 жыл бұрын
good review my nate gas 1 and love's it.are you wearing an Oxford jacket?what you think bought 1 here in florida like it but didn't test it yet in the heavy rain.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
No that's an RST jacket - I love 'em - if you search for "RST Adventure Review" you'll find my video(s)....
@woodj99
@woodj99 7 жыл бұрын
Just to say I enjoy all your videos & wanted to say thank you for doing them :-) I have the tiger 800xrt that I brought in June this year - Are you planning to test ride the tiger 1050 sport at all ?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Jamie - glad you find them of interest. I used to have a Tiger 1050 ('09 plate) and loved it, so would love to ride an up to date one....must arrange that! Cheers - TMF
@MotoGoYo
@MotoGoYo 7 жыл бұрын
Not ridden it but I'd always thought it would be nippier and flickable so thanks for the review as it doesn't sound like one for the future list or at least this current model. Better if they just had a button for the screen. That does look faffy.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have to admit to being a little disappointed on this one, I really did want to like the Explorer more, it being British an all.....
@johnball4983
@johnball4983 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. As much of a Triumph fan that I am... I feel I made the right decision in getting the GS... Just saying.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
...I think you are right!
@bobfisheruk
@bobfisheruk 7 жыл бұрын
Very good review, I suspect the Tiger Explorer could be a strong competitor for the R1200GS
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob - indeed.....stay tuned for more on that subject soon!
@triv7252
@triv7252 7 жыл бұрын
the Explorer has always had the ride-by-wire throttle, not just the latest version
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, I didn't realise that, thanks for pointing it out...my bad!
@stevesixtysix7630
@stevesixtysix7630 7 жыл бұрын
Good review as always, looking forward to your review of the new Street Cup! I assume you have seen all the new bikes from Intermot this week? Anything catch your eye?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
...sure have, MCN is full of them today - liking the looks of the new RnineT derivatives in particular, and the T100's - No scrambler still though :0(
@stevesixtysix7630
@stevesixtysix7630 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it is an age thing with me but loving the cafe racer bikes, the Thruxston R, R nine T Racer and the Street Cup........will have to go and have a word with our local friendly dealer in Hemel for a test ride......The Ducati 939 Super Sport S looks pretty nice too :- )
@FlamingT
@FlamingT 7 жыл бұрын
Darn it.... am nearly at the point of getting a GSA and now you have put a doubt in my mind.. may just have to go and take a test ride on that Tiger
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
....give it a go, you never know! Though personally I prefer the GS overall....stay tuned for a comparison video on the two soon....
@vstm3950
@vstm3950 7 жыл бұрын
When you get new bike TMF like GS for e.g. do you intend to keep it for x number of years before replacing like some people do or rather go with the wind and if there is something new you fancy just get it then?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Well I'm more of a go with the wind type, but I try and research first and if the research is good then theoretically I should end up getting the right bike and therefore sticking with it for a while....I love looking at new bikes but currently I have to say I have no plans on replacing any of my flock....if I bought a bike to then only sell it 6 months later I would think I failed and bought the wrong bike.....(but I appreciate some people like to change bikes like underpants)....
@darenmorley4598
@darenmorley4598 7 жыл бұрын
Great review as always TMF. Wonder if you would consider reviewing the new Africa Twin, Bike magazine made it their bike of the year.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I'd love to Daren, send me one over and I'll have a go ;0) Seriously, I don't have any Honda dealers nearby so it's not straight forward to go and borrow a bike for a test ride....
@darenmorley4598
@darenmorley4598 7 жыл бұрын
It's about time you got invited to press launches, like other Vlogers. Your reviews are far superior.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
+Daren Morley Very kind of you to say so - seething with jealousy when I see others doing that :0) - especially the guys that to my mind aren't really motorcycle guys (mention no names - Mr Ben Brown!!)
@NJGaming82
@NJGaming82 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this a handy review I've been looking at getting the XCA myself as I do around 10k per year commuting and the reason I'm leaning towards triumph is because both BMW and Ducati service costs are just horrendous. The GS I'm sure is a lovely bike but if I was going to have a BMW I would get another S1000RR as that is such a weapon I could justify the high service costs on that. With 10K Service intervals on the Triumph it is certainly much better and being drive shaft over the chain drive of the multistrada so no cleaning and lubing the chain every 5 minutes. What's the service intervals on the GS out of interest?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Err, good question - 6000 miles I think (I tend to let the bike tell me when it's due so haven't been paying much attention!!)...now mine is out of the warranty period I'll be taking it to the local bike engineer rather than a BMW dealership and the pricing gets much more realistic (so I'm hoping...)....
@NJGaming82
@NJGaming82 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks for letting me know on that and yes agreed it is sky high pricing on stuff like that. I was leaning towards the VFR 1200 X Tourer at 1 point because they have such high service intervals and again with shaft drive much easier in the winter to keep free of crap from the road. I would think the servicing outside of BMW should be much more normal prices only the parts that could be expensive for genuine OEM kit. I have to say I am a bit anal about stuff like that if it's not performance then only genuine OEM will do for the bike. Have to say been impressed with my Tiger Sport done 18k miles on it and not had one single grumble the only reason I'm changing is for more features on the bike really and that bigger tank on the explorer means less fill ups per week. Funny enough still on the same battery that's been on it from day 1, 3 years that's lasted and three winters riding too. Does your GS have the quickshifter? I've seen and heard some with it on as I know the Triumph doesn't and I do miss my quickshifters so much fun and easy to use.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
..yes my GS has the Gear shift assist pro (quick shift up and auto blip down) - I really encourage you to try a GS before you take the plunge on the Explorer, having ridden them both I think the GS is a far superior machine in weight, handling, build quality, features......and I'm a Triumph fan-boy!
@NJGaming82
@NJGaming82 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this having thought about it some more and looked at the figures I have decided to stick with my 2013 Tiger Sport 1050 it's a cracking commuter and has just ticked over 18k miles without any hiccups at all. The GS are in a World of their own for sure but it's that price tag however it has helped me decide one thing which is I will get a HP4 Carbon as I've always wanted one and having had two S1000RR's it seems like the logical choice and the Carbon is slightly cheaper than a fully decked out GS plus I get a bike I've always wanted hehe. Will definitely keep hold of the Tiger to be the work horse though such a comfortable cracking bike to ride.
@discobizkit38
@discobizkit38 7 жыл бұрын
Great review...out of interest ,did you ever test the new africa twin...I currently have an MT-07 but would love to add a touring machine to my collection....Weight would seem to be an issue here for me as im only 5'9 but i am a Triumph fan fan so thats where I'm leaning towards.... Loving the reviews you do
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir - out of interest have you tried the Triumpoh 800 Tigers? To my mind they are much nicer to ride/handle than the big off-roader from Triumph. ...and no, I've not had the opportunity to try an Africa Twin yet but would love too some time....only hear good things about them!
@discobizkit38
@discobizkit38 7 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer no i did nt try the 800 could be the way to go alright.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are still quite tall but much nicer handling (IMO) than the big explorer....
@discobizkit38
@discobizkit38 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a pain if youre a bit vertically challenged like myself :) ....I sat on the Africa twin and the GS ,height an weight were noticable on both
@mojothejester9889
@mojothejester9889 7 жыл бұрын
I test rode the Explorer XCA this year, it was great. About 10 minutes later I sat on the Africa Twin, I found the edges of the seat were digging into my thighs. Noticeable coming straight off the Explorer, but I didn't actually ride the twin, just sat on it in the car park
@thewoodster8607
@thewoodster8607 7 жыл бұрын
good review again. To me, I don't think it's the extra weight itself that is the problem. it's where it is. the Explorer holds its extra weight higher on the bike. The GS is almost as heavy but the shape of the engine puts the weight lower on the bike. I can see why some prefer the GS. Also it's price puts it firmly in competition with the GS and lots of people will think that they might as well get the GS! I think Triumph might have missed a trick with this one. The only real difference between it and the GS is that it isn't a GS! I know this will appeal to some but is it going to be enough to really challenge the panzer?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed all round.....
@RichDunn
@RichDunn 7 жыл бұрын
I've owned a Tiger 1050, Explorer 1200, R1200GS and Multistrada too. I loved the Tiger 800 I demo'd, but soon grew bored of my 1200. It lacks the charasmatic whistle of the 675, 800 and 1050 triples. It's top heavy, which you really feel at a standstill. And mine had a shaft drive whine, which persuaded me to sell it, just before a shaft drive of a friend's Explorer gave out. They've improved the bike technically, but they've not made it lighter or lowered it's c of g. The 800 is a better all round package IMPO. Love or loathe it, IMHO the R1200GS is still the best all round motorcycle ever made - just so easy to live with and does everything from race rep baiting to making owners look better than they actual are be that on or off road.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, interesting that you say that after having owned a Multistrada too (which I also found too top heavy). Completely agree with your other points, my old Tiger 1050 had character - and the Triple whistle - I loved the Tiger 800 I recently rode but the big 1200 wasn't as good as I'd hoped. I have a video coming out soon directly comparing the GS to the Explorer.....
@rezekiyo
@rezekiyo 7 жыл бұрын
hi. I'm looking at either the GS or the Explorer. could you kindly advise which is better in terms of consumption and reliability. Also is the parts more ex than the GS?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Have you seen this video I published? >> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5aRadiClsm3qnU.html
@faithbiker8262
@faithbiker8262 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice machine. You do not see many Triumphs in the states. I like them, although, I like the Ducati better. I own a Harley Fat Bob which is a totally different style bike as this one. Great job on the review! Best to you.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and for stopping by once again FB....I'm a huge Triumph fan but sadly this bike isn't their best I'm afraid...stick to the Harley!
@shaneweightman
@shaneweightman 7 жыл бұрын
Good review ,, I fancy a Kawasaki versy 1000 I've not sat on one but a friend says they are a tall bike but get great reviews ,,, good video up to your usual high standard don't no why but that triumph doesn't appeal to me seems to lack in character ,,,not against triumph as I own a speed triple Take care Shane
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm a Triumph fan too but the Explorer just didn't do it for me, the dull sound, the top heavy weight......sadly I wasn't impressed either. IMV the Tiger 800 is a much better machine....
@nilsatisno9964
@nilsatisno9964 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting review as always, thanks TMF.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome sir!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 жыл бұрын
Waiting to see what the 2018 1200 will offer. Less weight and more power. But how much less and how much more? Seems like this 1215cc engine is a bit of a low revver and top heavy pig. Triumph seriously needs to go more over-square in the bore/stroke and make it rip.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
Yes looking forward to giving the new one a go.....
@down4first774
@down4first774 7 жыл бұрын
Tell me, if shopping for the adventure style bike again would you take this over the GS? Thanks.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
No - the GS is a much better machine in my opinion, better build quality, carries it's weight better and all round better refinement...for me the GS is just a nicer machine...
@threepot5874
@threepot5874 7 жыл бұрын
A friend has just traded his 2013 Exp for the new 2016 model..after trying the GS! So try before you buy! Anyway,does it really matter if the GS is slightly better?? BMW are a 'massive' company compared,with huge resources available ! And if you live in the UK,your supporting a UK company. Good review btw.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks threepot, and I agree that Triumph is a great news story and it warms the cockles to know they're British. They make some brilliant machines - Street Triple, Thruxton, Daytona to name but three....sadly the Explorer is not their best creation in my view (the Tiger 800 I much preferred)...
@gunton21
@gunton21 7 жыл бұрын
yes standard pipe, I would like a arrow can, I have been told it makes the engine sound even better, but I can't justify spending £600 on one.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
E-Bay is your friend (...mines up for sale on there at the moment - current bid is £3.20)
@edmachado22
@edmachado22 7 жыл бұрын
Hello, mate If you had money for just one, which one did you choose? Gs or Explorer? Cheers Eduardo
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
GS without hesitation, much better bike IMO....
@LenScapoff
@LenScapoff 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely appointed bike, but again that weight issue. Never mind, in the domestic market at least, I imagine these are going to be very (or even more) competitively priced in a couple of years time when the GS et al start having import duties slapped on them. ;-)
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
...yeah maybe...and yes, the weight of this didn't do it for me I'm afraid...
@1A2Blueboy
@1A2Blueboy 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested in the engine sound when compared to the Tiger 800 XCX which I own. The only thing I dislike about the 800 is the constant whistling noise from the straight cut gears. Didn't hear it on the 1200, is it there?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't have that characteristic whistle, it sounds more like a small car - trust me the 800 sounds MUCH better!
@1A2Blueboy
@1A2Blueboy 7 жыл бұрын
Mmm, maybe it's just me then.😊
@aapddd
@aapddd 2 жыл бұрын
It's personal I guess. It's indeed like a good sounding car engine. I'm shure it's the displacement. The tiger 800 sounds more sporty.
@BHPBikesuk
@BHPBikesuk 7 жыл бұрын
I had a the New Explorer for 4 months before the shaft failed after 6K miles... It pisses all over the GS in every way shape and form but then in my opinion that is not that hard. The Tiger is an awesome bike to tour on but they need to get the reliability of the shaft sorted before I would consider another one.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
...well I've not had the shaft fail on my GS...just sayin'
@BHPBikesuk
@BHPBikesuk 7 жыл бұрын
lol :D :D
@JLchevz
@JLchevz 7 жыл бұрын
I got a question, how do you cope with the rain and motorbikes in the UK? do you take extra precautions in terms of clothing and gear ??
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Well I have only ever ridden here (bar a few riding breaks abroad) so my precautions to me are normal as opposed to "extra". I always wear full safety kit (gloves/boots/back protection, etc) and in the colder months 2 of my bikes have heated grips + I have heated gloves if needed, thermal underwear and so on....where are you based Jorge??? I'm guessing Spain...?
@JLchevz
@JLchevz 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying, I live in Mexico, and in my city it only rains about 3 months a year. Im looking to buy my first motorbike so that's why I was curious about the rain, but I guess If I buy my bike im going to always wear the full kit too.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, best to err on the cautious side with regard to kit - however hot it may be! Riding in rain is no issue, just watch for slippery road markings and keep the speed in check...enjoy!
@JLchevz
@JLchevz 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much and ride safe! :)
@jamesgreen3417
@jamesgreen3417 7 жыл бұрын
Slightly different I know, but which would you say is the better s1000xr or this one.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Hands down I preferred the s1000xr - better in every way (bar looks!)....
@jamesgreen3417
@jamesgreen3417 7 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer thank you, narrowing down choices for my next bike. Appreciate your advice, I really like your reviews informative but still highly enjoyable. Thanks
@UnknownProdrive
@UnknownProdrive 7 жыл бұрын
If I was in this area of the market the only thing that would stop me giving my pounds to the Bavarians would be the Africa Twin. I've rode both the Honda and the GS. The market leader deserves it's sales it does everything extremely well. The Honda was impressive and for me better looking. If a little disappointing performance wise. Mind you all these bikes inc the GS leave you feeling flat performance wise. I dunno why there is so much hate for GS riders. But you'd avoid that with the Honda or indeed the Triumph. I'm rambling now, thanks TMF. By the way is it possible to do a few sport bike reviews, the new 2017 GSXR for example, and what about the Tuono?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
...ahh yes would love to give a Tuono a bash, one day I'll get my mitts on one - thanks for stopping by once again, always good to hear from you (even if You Tube does always think you're spam!)....all the best - TMF
@UnknownProdrive
@UnknownProdrive 7 жыл бұрын
KZfaq thinks I'm spam lol probably right anyway. Whys that out of interest, is that based on my comnent rating? Cheers sir.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
+Sleepingdragon 1 I really don't know what basis You Tube use for it - all I know is that whenever there's a "1" in my "likely spam" folder, there's normally a perfectly reasonable comment lurking there from your good self!
@geoffakachuckstrummer
@geoffakachuckstrummer 7 жыл бұрын
After manfully managing the weight of the Exploder, perhaps you are bulked up enough to review a Harley Road King? Just a thought as well, if the dealer who supplies the demo bike get a plug (Thanks to Aardvark & Scroggins for the loan of) in the credits it might make it easier to get stuff.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
...maybe not, I think I'm done on very heavy bikes....and agreed, I did credit Hertfordshire Triumph in the notes (you may need to click "view more" to see it depending on what device you're viewing on) + I've mentioned them on occasion in the various vids...though can't recall if I did in this one and having gone through the pain of repeated viewing when editing it, can't be arsed to watch it yet again to check :0)
@wb416
@wb416 6 жыл бұрын
Love the sound at low RPMs. Almost a diesel-like quality.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
Crikey, you like the sound of a diesel?!
@aapddd
@aapddd 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer A diesel can sound mean. Not most though.
@steveelliott5643
@steveelliott5643 2 жыл бұрын
youve got a fazer 1000 fzs too? how does it compare to that? thanks
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know - I haven’t ridden one yet…
@steveelliott5643
@steveelliott5643 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer ok soz,you sound just like the bloke who does reviews who owns a GS1200 and a Fazer
@Bazza47
@Bazza47 7 жыл бұрын
sounds like they've improved the brakes, screen and suspension over the 2015 model I rode last year which is good but the top models are even heavier now by the looks of things at around 40kg more than the GS and as others have said that weight is higher up too which doesn't help shorter riders like me and that's without a pillion, so until they adress that I'm afraid it won't be on my list. The newer models with the gizmos are in a par cost wise too with the GS which I don't think will help Explorer sales as residuals tend to be better on the GS. Thanks as usual for a well balanced review MF.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm with you on this one Adrian, just a bit too heavy up top for me, and doesn't really so anything better than the GS does...I have a direct comparison of the two bikes in the can and will be uploading that one soon. All the best - TMF
@Bazza47
@Bazza47 7 жыл бұрын
Great. I look forward to watching the comparison video, though don't forget to include the upgrades like cornering abs and the work done on the gearbox over our bikes to make it smoother when you compare it to the latest explorer though I don't find my 2016 model that bad tbh. cheers Ade
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
+adrianbarrie13 .....err too late I fear! It's already in the can :0) - although even without the extra niceties I think my conclusion would be the same ;0)
@antonoat
@antonoat 7 жыл бұрын
That was interesting, I owned the previous version(2015 model, which incidentally was also fly by wire throttle) unfortunately my ownership of said bike was fairly brief, mine had some gearbox issues despite some remedial work by several different Triumph dealers was never sorted to my satisfaction, so we parted company! I also found the weight a bit of an issue, I'm a fairly big fella 6'1" &16 odd stone(obviously all muscle,lol), the weight of the Triumph Tiger Explorer is carried much higher than a GS, and I found low speed riding especially two up really tricky, the fly by wire throttle was awful, it was all or nothing, it wasn't my lack of experience as a biker, I've ridden more than 1/2 a million miles on my various bikes over a thirty year period, by comparison I can ride a GS even two up loaded with luggage at less than walking pace with no issues at all! Another aspect to be considered is service costs, normal servicing is probably comparable to a BMW in cost but when it comes to the larger services where tappets are adjusted the Triumph service jumps to quite ridiculous costs, I've heard of riders being charged £800-£900 for the larger more time consuming services , definitely something to factor in if considering buying one, to be fair I think service intervals on the Triumph are every 10,000 miles, but approaching nine or ten hours labour for a valve check and adjust service is just bonkers in my opinion. So my preference is for a GS , fuel economy, ease of service, truly fantastic handling and low end grunt etc keep the BMW at the top of the game for this type of bike in my opinion. cheers tony Thanks TMF for another great video!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for that lot Tony - very interesting to hear what these are like to live with....cheers for taking the time to write that lot down!
@Boodieman72
@Boodieman72 7 жыл бұрын
TMF, is there a quick shifter available?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Dunno.....sorry :0(
@Boodieman72
@Boodieman72 7 жыл бұрын
That would probably make things a lot better.
@thomasgeser8486
@thomasgeser8486 7 жыл бұрын
great video the tiger looks nice but it is not a GS 😉
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed :0)
@denleemel
@denleemel 6 жыл бұрын
And that's a good thing.
@christopherdevries1969
@christopherdevries1969 7 жыл бұрын
You said something about it weighing more than a GS. Don't know which one you ment, but the 2016 weighs in at a whopping 260 kg.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
You talking about a fully loaded GS Adventure? My standard 2014 GS Wet weighs in at 228Kg...
@christopherdevries1969
@christopherdevries1969 7 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer Well that's a huge difference than. Maybe it was fully loaded, did not say. But I believe you. Was just watching your comparison between the two as I am looking for a good long distance travel bike. Maybe I'll take a trip to the BMW dealer just to get a feel of the GS.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
I recommend you do, they are fabulous machines....enjoy!
@christopherdevries1969
@christopherdevries1969 7 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer Is this an objective view? LOL. I will do so, I'm also looking at the 1050 speed triple. It will need some work in order to turn it into a somewhat GT bike. I had the chance to ride one today and with my 5' 7" it was a very comfortable bike. Thanks for your videos, I'm enjoying them.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
No, I am of course biased - that said I have ridden a lot of cool bikes recently, and the GS is still amongst the best adventure bikes you can buy in my opinion....
@nikoscosmos
@nikoscosmos 7 жыл бұрын
You even took her off road!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you spotted that Nick, let no one say The Missenden Flyer is too much of a girl to take a big trail bike into the gnarly stuff... :0)
@philclarke7712
@philclarke7712 6 жыл бұрын
I keep getting black screen on tmf videos. Anyone else? It's only this channel!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
+Phil Clarke What device are you watching on?
@philclarke7712
@philclarke7712 6 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer Motorola MotoG4
@mattmcalister1915
@mattmcalister1915 7 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer this to the GS - the GS's front mudguard is hideous
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree the Explorer is perhaps a better looking machine - have you ridden them both?
@mattmcalister1915
@mattmcalister1915 7 жыл бұрын
Oh no haha.. I'm 16 so it's 50cc for me. I'm from Leighton buzzard (quite near to yourself) so 50cc is good enough for the roads here. Eddlesburough is my furthest endeavor so far, took me 35 minutes to get there though haha.
@paulharrison8155
@paulharrison8155 7 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean beak ?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Fair enough....your time will come and it will be worth the wait!
@Billy520917
@Billy520917 7 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFly
@sanclewphotographic
@sanclewphotographic 7 жыл бұрын
You say its a heavy motorcycle but it is just 6 kilos heavier than the GS. C
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Colin...according to my research the GS is 238Kg wet (with a full tank of fuel), the Triumph Adventure 258Kg dry (no fuel), a fairly significant difference, but more than the weight per se it's the way it's carried, the boxer config means the BMW has a far lower centre of gravity and hence feels much lighter than it is (more like a Tiger 800 in fact)....thanks for watching once again, good to hear from you - TMF
@keyop1970
@keyop1970 7 жыл бұрын
You really need to have a play on a KTM 1190 Adventure...
@keyop1970
@keyop1970 7 жыл бұрын
Had one for a couple of hours and never stopped grinning...
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
I would like a go on one but I think they're still quite top heavy (particularly for us short fellas)....and I'm not a fan of the looks - I do however appreciate they get rave reviews...maybe one day I'll get to give one a go....
@Udspie
@Udspie Жыл бұрын
Why review a bike stuck behind a van ???????
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Why not?
@Udspie
@Udspie Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Fair comment from GS rider ! Sounds like a car, LOL.
@holdencaulfied7492
@holdencaulfied7492 6 жыл бұрын
Missenden, how could you buy a German bike over British? Did you forget WW2? The Nazis bombed Old Trafford! Among other horrible things they did. I'm going to buy a Tiger Explorer just to offset your BMW purchase.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын
Fair enough....
@funchalflash6994
@funchalflash6994 7 жыл бұрын
It's a not a GS so you will not like it flyer
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think you may have a point - that said I loved the Tiger 800 and that's not a GS either!
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