Like if you want a video about iPadOS 15 + 2017 iPad Pro!

The 2017 looks surprisingly clean.

I feel like all of those numbers mean nothing when there’s nothing the 2021 can use it for. There doesn’t seem to be anything yet the 2017 can’t run effectively

These numbers really mean nothing. Yea the M1 is way faster on paper but it’s still running just iPad apps. The M1 is useless if the iPad isn’t running real programs. My 2017 10.5 is still able to do everything the M1 does because they both run iPadOS apps. I do wish I had a usb c port but the lack of hasn’t really limited me honestly.

i have a 2017 12.9 .. i haven't even used the m1 one but .... literally everything i ever tried/installed hasn't even phased it ... i'm on 15.2 and this tablet feels like a premium overpowered tablet. Literally everything works perfectly, the screen is snappy ... it feels like something that just came out of the store. I got a great deal on it (40% of the price of the M1 and can't be happier with my purchase).

I just bought an ipad pro 10.5 with 97% battery life, 47 charging cycles. Should arrive tomorrow. Excited

Thank you for making this comparison. So many of Tech KZfaq is making the absurd comparison between the 2020 and 2021 modes when most people kee iPads for a very long time so their upgrade cycle is much longer than iPhones .

this is the only 2017 ipad comparasion video i found. thank you, good video

I think you have to keep in mind how absurdly over powered the M1 is in an iPad !!! It's absolutely amazing they've got a desktop processor in an iPad, but depending on your use case obviously, I definitely think as long as you have at least the 2017 iPad pro, it's a win !

I see you're trying to build your brand, I think if you keep going you can grow pretty large, thank you for your info and I wish you nothing but success!

My ipad pro 10.5 still run smoothly in 2021

I have the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 and just bought the 2021 M1 11” iPad Pro. The 2021 iPad gives you a bit more space and the screen provides slightly better contrasts. One thing I noticed is that the speakers on the 2017 iPad has a more dynamic soundstage than the 2021 iPad. I have compared several songs on Spotify, music videos and movies. The 2021 iPad speakers sound more muffled. The 2021 iPad is a great machine but not worth the upgrade to the 2017, especially consider the sound quality. I am retiring the 2021 model and keeping my 2017.

Maybe less than 1% of people will notice the performance difference, even people who do video editing, or heavy graphics these 2 don't have much differnce. The price of 2nd hand 2017 Ipad pro is available for less than 50% of the price, so that is a major difference. The only sacrifice I think I would make if I got the 2017 over the 2021 is: - I will be stuck having to use the Pencil 1st gen. The worst design charging Idea ever invented. - The 2021 looks more modern Those are basically all I can see different for myself. I cannot see any reason to not get the 2017. The annoying pencil 1st gen is the biggest con, otherwise i can't tell. I dont know about battery on used ipads but overall regardless of all the numbers you put up the best value for money for 99% of people if they can overlook a few shortcomings is the 2017 ipad. One other issue might be age. Ipad 2017 is 4 years old, so there may be some merit to upgrading because of software support. I dont know how to put a value on it, but I know the ipad will work for many more years weather it gets IOS updates or not and for most people it wont matter for years even if IOS updates stop.

It would be good to mention the cons/downgrades of the ipads released after 2017: 1. Headphone jack removed 2. OIS - no Optical Image Stabilisation on the rear camera of ipads after 2017! 3. Smaller battery (8134mah on the 2017 ipad vs 7538 mAh batteries on the ipad 11 models) 4. Physical home button removed and no Touch ID (Face ID not as convenient and doesnt work with a mask) As someone who listens to a lot of music and uses the iPad casually just for web browsing and reading magazines and pdfs, I will be holding onto the 2017 iPad for quite a few more years until Apple seriously bump the hardware specs (OLED screen, Foldable, U1 chip so I can precision find my airtags, decent amounts of RAM). Given the price - stop short changing and overcharging the consumer with the tiny/iterative hardware specs and removing features! It's 4 years later and for my use case of casual web browsing, content consumption etc hardly anything has significantly improved for my use cases! I used to upgrade my ipad every 1-2 years as it was by far but I am confident that I will pay for a battery replacement before I eventualy upgrade it! Also, get the iPadOS software working as the current state is not acceptable for a productivity device aiming to be a laptop replacement.

i love my ipad 10.5 but i am worrying about the future updates and that it will slow down. looking to upgrade but so confused with the choice hence the research and watching the videos. thanks this was very usefull

you should compare to the base model M1 not the full spec one

IPad Pro 10.5 is the perfect size!, 🥰

Hmmm… You ask me, the 10.5“ iPad is a completely different machine than the 12.9“, which was also available in 2017. The 12.9“ is just clumsy to handle when you are using it on foot, holding it with both hands, that is. It feels heavy and it is almost impossible to reach the central keys of the keyboard with your fingers in that position. When supported by a stand like the magic keyboard, of course, there is nothing you can replace screen-size with than with more screen-size. The version of 2021 is faster than the one of 2017. This is - kind of - a no-brainer. Of course it is. If it wasn‘t, nobody would ever buy a new iPad until the old one simply breaks. I am still not sure whether there are a lot of applications where I would actually „feel“ the difference between the old and the new iPad much in terms of performance.

I have the 2017, 10.5" iPad Pro, and yesterday my refurbished 2021, 11" M iPad arrived. Physically the 2021 seems smaller because of the smaller bezels, the thinner body with squared sides instead of the rounded bottom of the 2017. The screen is so much better, but I am unsure about the sound. Haven't tested them side by side. But I feel the 2021 is smoother in operation and lighter and overall much more comfortable in the cheap cover I bought with it. I bought a Logitech case/keyboard for the 2017 and it got so heavy. I am very happy with the 2021 which I find better on all levels.

here a few years later. I think the reduction in battery life 6-7 years later is by far the largest factor. Yes certain games bloated from so many updates are starting to really heat up and work my system but it never lags. Would say it could def be used through the late 2020s but if you want better battery upgrade soon. I actually prefer the form factor of the older one. The new one feels bulkier due to the edges not tapering, but it being more of a box. I prefer thin/light/large surface area, over bulky but smaller surface area personally. Most people are watching youtube or downloading netflix for their flight. Machine learning does not matter for Ipads

Good review. For basic KZfaq and Netflix binging and Social media the 10.5 is still a great machine. I still use mine to edit images on Affinity Photo with the 1st generation pencil. Works like a charm.

I think its certain that running ios15 will makes the machine much more slower but still wanna watch it. Good video, subscribed!

people DO NOT have to upgrade each time. I think some of the reviewers think everyone has fancy things they are doing with the ipad. For word processing like I do, i don't need to upgrade every year

I still have my 10.5” 2017 version and for the amount of times I’ve dropped it it’s in almost perfect condition, the case is falling apart but I have no scratches or cracks anywhere. I want to upgrade to do more work on it since I’m now a student and I just want one that will last as long as my current one has as well as the fact I have a Samsung phone so I’d love a tablet to have a usb c port for less cables. I’m very old fashioned for a 19 year old and I like a headphone jack and my home button. This year was the first year I got a phone without a button and headphone jack and I do miss them personally, not enough where I don’t want to get a new iPad but enough where I’d miss it. Great video and was exactly what I’m looking for! I’m thinking of going for the 11” version and giving my mum my iPad Pro I’m using rn, she has an iPad air 2 with only 16 gb so I think it’ll be a good upgrade for us both! Thank you 😄

I have a 2017 10.5 pro and played around with the new iPad Pro ..I just couldn’t justify getting the new iPad when the difference isn’t noticeable..maybe next yr

Still using pro 10.5 . My is 512GB which can store a lot of stuffs. Got brand new from japan in 2019 for only $400. Still solid. I think i will replace battery with apple this month before price jumps up.

I‘ve got one important question: on my iPad 10.5 playing games like Civilization 6 will drag the battery down from full to zero in less than one hour. How does a new iPad fare with such games when running on battery?

i have the 10,5 from 2017 , i use it all day , all night ! he work so well.... 5 years after... best investissement , i give music lesson with this ipad so perfect. i will change ipad in 4 years i think haha

I’m in love with iPad Pro

I have 2017 iPad Pro 10,5" and I'm going to replace it for 2021 Pro 11" bacause of performance (I see some music software need more power), but... 2017 generation design looks much better to me to be honest. I also prefer Touch ID. Apple could do the same in Pro as in iPad Air 4 - Touch ID in the button on the edge. Missing headphone jack is also a bummer for music makers. Apple still keep it in the newest base iPad models, Macbook Air and Pro, Mac mini, so why they removed it from iPad Pro which is more pricely?!? I don't get it... (I know is always about saved money by Apple, but... ehh, no words)

IPad Pro 10.5 (my current ipad) vs iPad Air 5th gen for a nursing student? Should I splurge and trade it in?! I can’t decide but this was so helpful because iPad Air now has M1

The most uneccesary feature of the iPad pro is the frontal camera. The only time I used it was to scan documents. I would have traded for a headphone jack anytime

Great comparison video short and simple

You missed one storage option on 10.5 iPad Pro spec sheet. The 512gb option. Which I owned and loved.

Everyone knows ipad 2021 is powerful, 2017 12.9 256gb/cellular model is value for money @ $350 for most of the people.

Well I know I won't buy a M2, but the M1 looks like great upgrade from 2017 love of my life ups pro! ❤🎉

I lost my Apple Pencil and procreate started to run slower. I can’t use the Apple Pencil 2. It would be great for the functionality and being able to erase quicker.

Its not a very useful comparison against the 12.9 inch

Great video and very informative. You can get iPad Pro first gen with 512 storage too not just upto 256

Im just upgrading as we speak to the 2021 from the 2017 pro hopefully it’s arriving in the morning so this was kinda helpful for me most channels forget that not everyone upgrades every single year when the new phone or ipad ect comes out . I’m excited for the new one to see and compare the picture and sound quality as i do my ipad the miss justice of using it mostly for watching things and music . I dont know where i would be without my ipad or phone . Theres so meany people out there that bad mouth apple but since changing from android too apple about 5-6 years ago ive had no problems i always had problems with android

This is synthetic comparison not actual. Show us day to day usage comparison. Opening chrome browising something, Doing social media, Watching videos, Multitasking smoothness etc when stressed

I have the 2017 Pro and i am thinking buying the 2021 Pro 11 inch . I just care much about their camera for my live streams on different places.. do they have a worthy difference on camera??

I returned it iPad Pro m1 cause mi ipad 10.5 is more neutral color , m1 is more darker. True Tone off . And speaker aren’t no clear too much bass. Love physical buttons 10.5

How is 10.5 on 14.7.1. ? Does it get slower? And how is battery life?

Only thing i wish it had was Wifi 6E.

What about the most important feature to resolve that wastes time and that is typing and using apps and key presses are missed and sometimes a space is inserted instead of a letter.? The only thing I don’t like about my 2017 10.5” pro and nice to know if latest pro get this resolved.

This IS NOT a accurate video. The 12.9" has 16gb ram where as the 11" has 8gb ram. Since the 10.5 has only 4gb ram the 11" would have been the better comparison. So to compare the 12.9 with the 10.5 is ridiculous.

I just wanted to say I appreciate the closed captions!

Excuse my English. I from Spain. One question .... in future video of iMac?your opinion is interesting for me. Thanks, congratulations for videos

what is the comparison on Procreate?

I can’t update mine, from iPadOS 15

I wish they spread the apps back out on iPad os15.

How long will iPad Pro 10.5 2017 last with latest iOS updates? Until 2025 at least?

I have a iPad Pro 10.5 2017, is worth change to the iPad Pro 11” 2018?

can i get the ipad pro 2017...?

All these Benchmarks mean nothing. After a long time of thinking, I just sent in my 4,5 Year old 10,5" iPP for Battery Service to keep it, until there's no more iOS-Update (i guess in iOS 17). I'm not a heavy user, but my daily tasks work fine, absolutely no reason to upgrade. Plus: Upgrading means buying a new keyboard and a new pencil, which means a nice 300-400 Bucks extra just for a device with a little bigger screen and loads of (with iOS 15) unusable Power.

I like the idea, but all those benchmarks have almost no meaning.

What with battery life?

I waa hoping that there going to be more games from ps4 or pc on ipads . But still there is not enough for me , u can count them by fingers on one hand . So i guess ill stay with my ipad pro 10.5 because there is not much difference in screen . Thank you ,great content.

Well it is a shame I am not always doing machine learning on my iPad, would like to tap into some of that improved machine learning power 😂 Maybe one day apple will open up a bit more.

10.5 iPad Pro can’t play 4K or HDR on KZfaq. That’s fatal.

would anyone attribute the glare/reflection on 2017, in comparison to 2021, to the positioning in the video or does the 2021 have some fancy technology?

4g ram in ipad 10.5, is it enough? I always browsing while watching video in split view. Thank you for the nice video 👍

iPad os15 ruined the app spacing on the tablet.They left unused screen real estate so you have borders around the screen.I hate it.

I have a 10.5 and it works great. Only problem is when i am drawing on procreate the battery dies immediately

Thé older iPad can show more apps on the Home Screen

please,suggest me a best video player for 4k videos

lol

Spanish subtitles please🙏🏻