2017 Volkswagen Golf Alltrack On & Off-Road Review: New Dirty-Worthy VW Station Wagon?

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@nastythomashobbs
@nastythomashobbs 5 жыл бұрын
VW owes one sale to you. I was going to hold my nose on the CVT and buy the Subaru...until I watched the drag race vid on the Alltrack v the Subaru. Love my Alltrack
@buildmorefarms1007
@buildmorefarms1007 4 жыл бұрын
yeah that Subie is slow!
@mo-215
@mo-215 2 жыл бұрын
Had a CVT....terrible! So annoying to drive. Agree...the VWs are so much better to drive.
@michaelutley7661
@michaelutley7661 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet Wagon!!! VW did a damn good job with this one. I test drove one today and was impressed with refinement, power, and handling. Something the Outback no longer has.
@intrepidmilotic5999
@intrepidmilotic5999 7 жыл бұрын
With Volkswagen's 4Motion cars, you need to press on the gas for the Awd system to send power, it does not work by barely pressing the gas pedal and waiting. 4Motion splits 90/10 on most occasions but will transfer power to any wheel who needs it.(haldex) a very efficient AWD,that allows you to move well in light,medium off road and snow/ice.
@JM-nz8gw
@JM-nz8gw 7 жыл бұрын
It's the same Haldex in the Audi quattro system. I have my Audi TT with it and it works well, but like you said, you gotta press the gas and wait for it to come on.
@mc_sim
@mc_sim 7 жыл бұрын
not all audi quattro systems based on haldex. only on a1/a3/tt/q2/q3. eg. mqb platform. the rest use torsen.
@intrepidmilotic5999
@intrepidmilotic5999 7 жыл бұрын
Maxim L. yes most of the more expensive Audi and Volkswagen are Torsen regardless of the naming 4Motion or Quattro like the Touareg or Q5.
@intrepidmilotic5999
@intrepidmilotic5999 7 жыл бұрын
pikepeak1 Haldex Gen5 should be enough unless you will go into heavy off roading, in addition you should not floor it, you should hit the gas hard enough for momentum and 4Motion will start switching power and Traction between your tires.
@makimoko
@makimoko 7 жыл бұрын
Audi will be changing their Torsen based AWD for electronically controlled, Haldex-like clutches. It starts with the new B9 A4 and will continue to the other vehicles, exception made of RS models. Look up the « Quattro with Ultra » system, which is essentially a FWD biased part-time AWD. Looks like true permanent AWD is getting extinct...
@lsowner10
@lsowner10 7 жыл бұрын
Glad it's finally coming! Pissed no TDI!
@elestromusicgamesfun1101
@elestromusicgamesfun1101 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Sweden with harsh winter condition and this car is AWESOME in the snow!
@notasolution
@notasolution 7 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more wagon options to choose from
@kimandrews7293
@kimandrews7293 7 жыл бұрын
ya not much choice. Mazda needs to bring back the 6 wagon and also a accord or camry wagon...I own a sportwagon tdi. planning on taking the buyback but not much choice besides this one or outback
@p-dub22
@p-dub22 7 жыл бұрын
Mazda has the CX-5 which is similar in size to the Sportwagen
@jakejohns9832
@jakejohns9832 7 жыл бұрын
+L&K Truong in Australia there is a Mazda 6 wagon option
@4estfloor
@4estfloor 6 жыл бұрын
BMW tdi awd wagon.
@Kirby33311
@Kirby33311 6 жыл бұрын
Just helped my parents purchase a new 2017. They had the A3 tdi with the S line package and the two sunroofs. We loved this car. There really was nothing comparable to it on the market when we bought it. Then the tdi foolishness happened. We bought the car used for 25K in August 2015 and Audi is going to buy it back for over 33K. So not a bad deal. They got a new Alltrack SEL with every bell and whistle. originally 36K and purchased for 26K. It is a great car. Again, I don't think there is anything comparable to it on the market. There are only a few wagons from which to chose in the US, and none in this price range with that massive, and I do mean MASSIVE sunroof.
@DanDannyDanielleBob
@DanDannyDanielleBob 7 жыл бұрын
I literally found this car online today on my endless quest to find a non nuttless alternative to a cross trek that didn't throw a price and mpg combo at me that left me saying "why not just a 4runner?" and you guys have a video the same day. so many thumbs up. you rock.
@bearatdusk8013
@bearatdusk8013 4 жыл бұрын
I'm here 3 years late, but I just came to the same realization. I love everything about the Crosstrek except for the gutless engine and the soulless transmission. This seems to check both boxes for me! Cool to see somebody else on the same train of thought haha
@conracewhatever5224
@conracewhatever5224 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I like about TFL! They will test the car to it's fullest
@dongidongi
@dongidongi 7 жыл бұрын
You guys are the first of the networks I follow to put up a video. I did see Jalopnik live streaming it yesterday. Thanks!
@dongidongi
@dongidongi 7 жыл бұрын
Also.. I expected this to return better MPG than 22/30. Maybe just the 2017 numbers are overall lower. The outback does a lot better than this in mpg, for eg.
@TFLcar
@TFLcar 7 жыл бұрын
+Dongi you saw it first on TFL ;-)
@dongidongi
@dongidongi 7 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@alexgonzalez514
@alexgonzalez514 7 жыл бұрын
Poor mans audi allroad?
@alexgonzalez514
@alexgonzalez514 7 жыл бұрын
Did you check the emissions?
@DoRC
@DoRC 7 жыл бұрын
I love it! I have a hard time being impressed by an offroad course that was setup by the manufacturer though:)
@izoyt
@izoyt 7 жыл бұрын
petrol, i guess, hehe.. but 2.0 tdi is really way to go.
@RobertSavello
@RobertSavello 5 жыл бұрын
izoyt i had one. It was terrible. Had it had AWD that might he different, but damn it was so slow and boring.
@ryan225360
@ryan225360 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve driven a 2012 Jetta Sportwagen and then this, and this is SO much more fun to drive. Partially AWD, partially the engine which is fantastic.
@izoyt
@izoyt 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertSavello should try gtd version then,,
@suneilkumar
@suneilkumar 7 жыл бұрын
That panoramic sunroof is awesome! Mini clubman, look out!
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's real awesome if you're tall and your head rubs on it all the time. No thanks.
@djayt1215
@djayt1215 7 жыл бұрын
good thing most tall individuals ride in the front seats
@spatialized24
@spatialized24 5 жыл бұрын
Expensive repair bill from leaking look out 😬
@Lax10000000
@Lax10000000 7 жыл бұрын
Finally going to see something on the road other than a crosstrek
@spyderrtd
@spyderrtd 7 жыл бұрын
awesome thanks for the variety in car vids!
@NoxNoctisUmbra
@NoxNoctisUmbra 7 жыл бұрын
a great alternative to small SUVs especially the tigun
@peytonschmidt1116
@peytonschmidt1116 4 жыл бұрын
They should’ve put the 2.0 T from the gti into this car. Don’t get me wrong, the 1.8 is a good engine. But more Hp and Tq would’ve been ideal in this
@jamesbutler606
@jamesbutler606 7 жыл бұрын
Spec it with the GT TDi engine and it would be a winner, plus an integrated towbar bike rack too...probably sell more than the Transporter then, especially if's it's only 35k.
@dustinmorris13
@dustinmorris13 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, I love it!! Give us the GTI version and I'd be running to the dealership to buy one!
@hagbard72
@hagbard72 7 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I was just thinking about the Golf Wagon on there it is.
@hsdavid9291
@hsdavid9291 7 жыл бұрын
love TFL videos
@nacholibre1465
@nacholibre1465 5 жыл бұрын
Question for TFL and any others. Between a new VW alltrack or a 2013 Audi allroad which one you would you choose and why? Also which one has more rear passenger space?
@cobaltlukather9045
@cobaltlukather9045 7 жыл бұрын
whats funny is that this is pretty much the same exact idea as the AMC Eagle wagon. except the Eagle could drive on a real off road trail. all it needed was lockers in the axles and it would've walked that trail as easily as a parking lot full of speed bumps. i wouldn't mind that AWD system if it was faster at adapting to different grip situations rather than taking an entire 5 seconds to realize a wheel is in the air
@esspanel
@esspanel 7 жыл бұрын
I love all VW's. I just don't understand why they don't offer the larger 2 liter engine in a larger car like this to help in keeping it's "spiriting driving" tradition.
@snowyowl7042
@snowyowl7042 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, think a comparison between Alltrack and a Forester?
@MultiPurposeReviewer
@MultiPurposeReviewer 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, I didn't know you came to Seattle! That's where I live!
@TimJoseph08031990
@TimJoseph08031990 7 жыл бұрын
Subaru Outback does come to mind for competing with this Golf All-Track, with similar price range, standard Symmetrical AWD, X-Mode, and available 6-cylinder Boxer engine. The 6-cylinder Boxer engine only gives up 3 MPG overall compared to the Golf All-Track, but the 4-cylinder Outback is more fuel-efficient with less horsepower. The Outback will of course be reliable, despite having a CVT.
@edwardv54
@edwardv54 6 жыл бұрын
So sad, no TDI. I was so looking forward to an electric Bi-turbo TDI with a 10 speed DSG.
@TheExtra40414
@TheExtra40414 7 жыл бұрын
well, once the dealers are willing to play ball with deals I will start looking at one of these to replace my aging 04 wagon passat.
@johncrane3493
@johncrane3493 7 жыл бұрын
I see this as more in direct competition with the Crosstrek than Outback.
@mikeh0222
@mikeh0222 7 жыл бұрын
From the looks of it the AWD system takes a while to finally send power to the rear wheels. At least form those short clips it doesn't inspire confidence if it is needed in ice and snow and it doesn't have the same amount of time to make a decision. I'd like to see a snow setting and the off-road setting automatically send 50/50 power when selected.
@davidmcleod5133
@davidmcleod5133 3 жыл бұрын
I know I’m replying to this comment long after it’s relevant, but you were correct... it isn’t all that great in snow. I drove an 03 WRX on summer tires one time that did better in the slippery stuff, than my Alltrack does on all-seasons it came with. And to me, it’s due to the difference between full-time AWD, and power-transfer AWD; by the time the car’s detected slippage, it’s too late.
@joeyoung3319
@joeyoung3319 6 ай бұрын
This isn't VW... this is the driver NOT PUSHING THE GAS PEDAL THINGY UNDER HIS RIGHT FOOT. ;)
@nalinsinglaca
@nalinsinglaca 7 жыл бұрын
I love it, next on my list once I deal with my TDI Passat.
@therealboofighter
@therealboofighter 7 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with your TDI?
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 7 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing buy back.
@jamespatrick6939
@jamespatrick6939 7 жыл бұрын
turns out is no good for trees, however the TDI passat drives so good, im not sure you will like the drive in this
@nalinsinglaca
@nalinsinglaca 7 жыл бұрын
guys, nothing wrong with my TDI Passat. I love it. What I meant was if in Canada, Tdi buybacks take place same as US, then I might give Passat back and pick up an all track.
@jamespatrick6939
@jamespatrick6939 7 жыл бұрын
but that passat drive though, its so soft, I would be sad to have to give it away
@turbo311
@turbo311 7 жыл бұрын
Watched the other video comparing to the Sportwagen 4motion and you show the Alltrac going up the off-road course with no drama. You didn't show that here. Why? Clearly you were in road mode and the traction control was impeding you.
@elvisxu1984
@elvisxu1984 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like this is gonna be an ideal choice for young couples or small families.
@mikrviscr6086
@mikrviscr6086 7 жыл бұрын
Does it have a power tailgate like the outback?
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 4 жыл бұрын
No an Outback isn’t a crossover. It’s just a lifted stationwagon with more off-road/rugged styling. It’s essentially a lifted Legacy wagon with a facelift also. WTF is that “I’m stuck” comment ½ a second after losing traction?? Seriously. You’re not stuck just because you spin a wheel or lose traction momentarily. You apply some juice and the Haldex system will move you on.
@J_heterodox
@J_heterodox 6 жыл бұрын
Is the cabin loud? Road noise?
@rreichar1
@rreichar1 7 жыл бұрын
I miss the TDI. Couldn't VW at least put the 2.0 motor in it. Speaking of unicorns, I really want the Golf R Estate brought to the US.
@ibrahimh.2828
@ibrahimh.2828 7 жыл бұрын
You know what would be perfect for this? A diesel engine. Oh, wait...
@fmonk
@fmonk 7 жыл бұрын
Is it really ruggedized or just look that way with slapped on plastic?
@rukiano13
@rukiano13 7 жыл бұрын
i wish vw sell this model in Mexico!! I mean, the 4motion version, the 1.8 tsi motor and the option of a six speed manual transmission!! here we have only the front wheel drive with 1.4 tsi motor with 150 HP and the automatic transmission!!!
@billspencer5535
@billspencer5535 7 жыл бұрын
Does it have a auto truck opening option?
@GunsmithSid
@GunsmithSid 3 жыл бұрын
I’m looking to buy one of these as I can’t find a new wagon with a manual transmission. I was kinda horrified by the poor AWD performance compared to my ‘07 Forester, but the comments seem to agree that slippage actually has to occur before the system can transfer torque. I am consistently aware of the individual tire grip on the Forester with its viscous center diff and mechanical limited rear diff and no traction control features. I was hoping that the AWD would prevent the modern traction control from cutting power or applying brake as I always feel these actions are counter to how I’ve already adjusted to the situation. Other than a little less power, I’m hoping for a better daily driver with better gas mileage than my Subie. 🤞
@brettpanzer
@brettpanzer 2 жыл бұрын
The EJ253 has less power than the 1.8tsi. I traded my outback for an alltrack and I don’t miss the outback at all. The difference between Subaru CVT AWD and 4motion is almost nonexistent.
@sidpark1695
@sidpark1695 2 жыл бұрын
@@brettpanzer Of course my Forester has the EJ255 and has more power than the 1.8 in the AllTrack. I did buy a low mileage 2019 (manual of course) and it is very poor performance-wise in comparison to the Foz, but I do like how quiet it is and I can get 30 mpg in it, where I can count the fill-ups that I got over 20 mpg in the Forester in 15 years on one finger. The handling is definitely comfort and not performance, and the rebound on the shocks is similar to a ‘70s American sedan on low frequency bumps or dips. Driving it 4000 miles so far, I reckon I’ll keep it, but I couldn’t sell my old car as the VW is so daft. I was right about the traction control and delay in both engine power and power transfer to the rear. I will try performance shocks first. But I don’t believe I will chase performance out of this car - I’ll just have to keep a second car for fun-to-drive. Cheers
@charlesnash2748
@charlesnash2748 4 жыл бұрын
These are fantastic cars.
@ParissaKhoury
@ParissaKhoury 7 жыл бұрын
They need to add the Engine from Golf R into this ... They also need to offer the Engine from the GTD into this as well !!! Those Two engines coupled with the All Wheel drive will have the All Track selling like HOTCAKES !
@CPUspeed
@CPUspeed 7 жыл бұрын
I like this. totally unrelated but if they make the R and GTI 4 door only in US then they better bring the scirocco over here! tall guys prefer bigger doors.
@agm5148
@agm5148 7 жыл бұрын
The ground clearance between Alltrack and Outback is more like 2 inches, not one like you said. When a manufacturer flies you some place to test their car, you better not say anything bad.
@krane15
@krane15 5 жыл бұрын
The VW is a road car that can go off-road. The Outback is the opposite.
@Sir_Scrumpalicious
@Sir_Scrumpalicious 7 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to this car but than VW decided to only offer the lighting package on the top line SEL trim. At that price point there are a number of other cars to look at. At least for my needs/wants.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 7 жыл бұрын
A loaded version of this car in Canada is over $46k with destination and taxes. For that kind of money you can buy a lightly used ANYTHING, including a Range Rover, Mercedes, Audi, or what have you. This VW has limited headroom for tall people, rock hard seats, and so-so MPG. Not to mention, VW has had many issues with their 1.8L turbo engines burning oil. Pass.
@afranca1825
@afranca1825 2 жыл бұрын
Where in WA is this?
@highdesert50
@highdesert50 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I will wait for the manual tranny.
@BrendanMacWade
@BrendanMacWade 7 жыл бұрын
More fun than the current Outback
@mjl325is
@mjl325is 7 жыл бұрын
What transmission is in this? I see paddles and is it the DSG?
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 7 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video with the sound off? The DSG is the only transmission it comes with right now. The manual will not be available until early 2017.
@the6cow6god6
@the6cow6god6 7 жыл бұрын
ok now would you buy this or a 2017 outback 2.5 with the cvt ???????
@slooriginal1727
@slooriginal1727 3 жыл бұрын
This
@BeachBow
@BeachBow 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see it loaded to max capacity, then see how your "ground clearance" looks.
@eppyz
@eppyz 5 жыл бұрын
And the point being what? Any car loaded up will lose suspension travel so what are you expecting to find?
@kylegoodman5196
@kylegoodman5196 7 жыл бұрын
I'd buy it as my first family car.
@A_guan
@A_guan 7 жыл бұрын
They give us an offloading golf wagon but we don't get the golf R sport wagon?!
@mindofmyown333
@mindofmyown333 7 жыл бұрын
How is the Golf wagon much different than a Jetta wagon? I know this one is an alltrack but wouldn't a 1.8T or 2.5 Jetta wagon with a little more ground clearance be the exact same thing? Or does this car replace the Jetta sport wagon? Sorry for so many questions!
@deagaric4765
@deagaric4765 7 жыл бұрын
The golf sportwagon replaces the jetta sportwagon, but they're very similar. And the the 1.8T and 1.4T vw engines have replaced the 2.5 and 2.0 NA engines. Hope that answers your questions! :)
@mindofmyown333
@mindofmyown333 7 жыл бұрын
+Dea Garic you did! Thank you!
@kimandrews7293
@kimandrews7293 7 жыл бұрын
They are technically the same. in Canada they were naming them golf and in the US jetta. The us eventually changed it to golf. I think the only diference was the front bumper and the dash...eastetic stuff.
@deagaric4765
@deagaric4765 7 жыл бұрын
There's a handful of minor changes overall, like improved interior quality but slightly smaller cargo space. This link sums it up; www.newcenturyvw.com/clp-2015-volkswagen-golf-sportwagen-vs-2014-volkswagen-jetta-sportwagen
@mindofmyown333
@mindofmyown333 7 жыл бұрын
Dea Garic L&K Truong Thank you both for your help! Dea, that link was very helpful.
@lemonsqeeezdcars5343
@lemonsqeeezdcars5343 7 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a review of a bmw x5 50d m. 2016
@contractki11er
@contractki11er 7 жыл бұрын
The X5 50d M is not available in the US market. The X5 M in the US only comes with the 4.4L V8 petrol.
@SoundgardenMan
@SoundgardenMan 7 жыл бұрын
Screw the Atlas. This thing could save VW in the USA.
@allroadsawesome
@allroadsawesome 6 жыл бұрын
SoundgardenMan I doubt it will
@GhostOfAMachine
@GhostOfAMachine 4 жыл бұрын
#savethewagons
@ciaspolatrebbia8315
@ciaspolatrebbia8315 7 жыл бұрын
You will test the new Fiat Panda 4x4?
@_chan.burn.21_
@_chan.burn.21_ 7 жыл бұрын
They don't sell the Fiat Panda in the U.S. so they won't be reviewing it most likely.
@ryanm8234
@ryanm8234 7 жыл бұрын
Please do a Toyota Sequoia
@audiwankenobi361
@audiwankenobi361 7 жыл бұрын
This car is looking extremely appealing to me....I love its conservative looks, I know that the aftermarket world is primed & ready to hug this car!
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 7 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of it too, but rock hard seats, limited headroom for tall people and questionable reliability will prevent me from buying one.
@leonardoaruca1
@leonardoaruca1 7 жыл бұрын
I like to see it on snow
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 7 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that this thing has hill decent control. Also, how can it be more lively than a Jetta, when it uses the exact same platform, and is nearly the same dimensions as a Jetta?
@Sir_Scrumpalicious
@Sir_Scrumpalicious 7 жыл бұрын
The Alltrack (and all MK7 Golfs) use the MQB platform. The US Jetta uses the previous platform (will be moved to MQB in a year or two I believe).
@scotthartman3879
@scotthartman3879 7 жыл бұрын
So the comment is made that if a shopper thinks a golf is too small and a Touareg too big they should get an alltrack. Well Roman there's one model you completely forgot to mention... The Tiguan. Why? Are you against it? Last I checked in 04'-06' Volkswagen spent quite a bit of R&D time making it pretty competent off-road(at least for the Mk1 which Americans can still buy brand new from Osnabrück), even more so than this Golf with a slight lift.
@Kornatoski
@Kornatoski 7 жыл бұрын
With apolgies to all ... don't mean to throw cold water on all the "gushing" ... but I had a 2012 Jetta TDI SW ... and this looks pretty darn similar to my old eyes ... and they (VW) had issues getting it noticed by consumers and it sold poorly ... I can only hope they (VW) fixed some of my concerns ... very cramped rear seating ...so-so stereo (Radio III if I recall) ... DSG (seemed to lack the normal automatics torque multiplication at low speeds which you may need for offroad crawling...or for getting unstuck) .... and yes I understand the JSW was only FWD and this is AWD (sort of) ... 170HP??? ... seems a little thin ... especially if you fill it with folk-n-gear and long uphill sections ...mine had the panoramic sunroof which sounded "romantic" but was actually noisy when opened and broiled the tops of my kids heads if left uncovered ... I'm sure for VW fanatics this car is "Wunderbar", though probably a few "clicks" away from "fahrfergnunen" ...
@SD_Marc
@SD_Marc 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone boots Outback out of their class when reviewing something else. It's a wagon if you're reviewing crossovers, but a crossover when you're reviewing wagon. An outback would pants this thing offroad. The AWD in a Subaru smokes VW's. These Alltracks are sweet vehicles though.
@paulccraciun1816
@paulccraciun1816 7 жыл бұрын
VW flew you to test one of their cars on a track chosen by them.Very unbiased review :).
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 7 жыл бұрын
All manufacturers do this for new products. This is not designed as an offroad vehicle anyway, so the track they provided is more challenging than 99% of these vehicles will ever see.
@paulccraciun1816
@paulccraciun1816 7 жыл бұрын
This is one thing i don't really get. Why car makers keep doing these allroad/alltrack/cross-country vehicles. People are really buying them ? They won't see anything close to offroad anyway. And if you have to do some more than occasional offroading, why not buying a compact SUV? Like a Tiguan, which i believe it's about the same height as the alltrack golf there. I really and truly hate this type of cars because they serve no useful purpose.
@rickt2419
@rickt2419 7 жыл бұрын
Good video! But, not ready to trust VW yet...
@KrisMorrison
@KrisMorrison 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be more comparable to the XV Crosstrek?
@1guyin10
@1guyin10 7 жыл бұрын
Somewhat, but price-wise it is more comparable to the Outback.
@kimandrews7293
@kimandrews7293 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's kind of between crosstreck and the outback size wize
@KrisMorrison
@KrisMorrison 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's closest competitor would actually be the Volvo V60 CC
@catsspat
@catsspat 7 жыл бұрын
I agree that it's far too small to be an Outback competition, but then Crosstrek is also too small to be its competition. I consider a car to be a "wagon" if it's longer than the equivalent sedan. For example, Outback is longer than Legacy. Crosstrek/Impreza is merely a hatchback because it's shorter than Impreza sedan. This Golf Alltrack appears to be a proper (raised) wagon. If raised Levorg existed, that'd be similar, but then, Levorg isn't even available in the US/Canada (sad). And besides, Levorg would completely whip the Golf Alltrack in everything. :P
@trevorbrown7224
@trevorbrown7224 7 жыл бұрын
...why not Forester? Lol it's on the WRX platform. About the right size, similar HP on the base engines, 6spd or a form of auto, etc..
@680ecks
@680ecks 7 жыл бұрын
25 mpg not so great. I had a lot of small cars that did better in the past ,think it is all the weight of added features. I had a status that got 30all the time and it was a good size car. I had a gearwheel drive 200sx that would get mid 30s in 1984. Don't like the light color interior grey or black works better specialy in a sudo offroader one muddy boot and you have a mess I side.
@twagn
@twagn 7 жыл бұрын
I like it. Looks like you can sleep in it. AWD. Make it into a stealth camper
@davidmcleod5133
@davidmcleod5133 3 жыл бұрын
Tri-fold mattress fits perfectly in the cargo area, and once you lay the larger segment of the back seats down it folds out perfectly flat. Throw some magnetic curtains on the windows, and I no longer bother with hotels on long road trips.
@debouncerkevin9826
@debouncerkevin9826 6 жыл бұрын
I love it but put Golf 6 GTI drls and it will look even more coll
@BRYANFE1
@BRYANFE1 7 жыл бұрын
is this just a rebadged allroad
@999TonyY
@999TonyY 7 жыл бұрын
VW was smart in controlling the off road condition track by inviting the journalists & auto review to their controlled off road track. Take note all reviewers of the Alltracks used the same off road track by VW. TFL Cars used the Cliff Hanger for the Outback and gave it a negative review.
@tinker1148
@tinker1148 7 жыл бұрын
Outback has 1.8 inches more ground clearance not 1 inch.
@dpt4402
@dpt4402 7 жыл бұрын
As a recent former VW owner dealer cared for, if they just had the reliability. They should just sell them with a Toyota engine.
@Ambient.scapes
@Ambient.scapes 7 жыл бұрын
Alltrac Toyotas from the 80's/90's anyone?
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Maybe one day VW will offer as many models in the US as they do in such major nations as Dubai, Australia and S. Africa. Until then let them keeping banging their heads saying "why do we fail?".....
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 7 жыл бұрын
Its expensive, so why didn't it come equipped with the 2.0TSI?
@intrepidmilotic5999
@intrepidmilotic5999 7 жыл бұрын
2.0 TSI 170HP 2.0 TSI 200HP 1.8 TSI 170 HP it is pretty much the same as the smaller 2.0, i am guessing the 200hp is reserved for the larger more powerful Tiguan.
@88ranchok
@88ranchok 7 жыл бұрын
+Intrepid Milotic it's not hard to make it over 300 horsepower with just two or three parts and some software
@ppha7665
@ppha7665 7 жыл бұрын
I WANT ONE IN A TDI WITH A 6 SPD MANUAL! The 4Motion may suck vs the Subaru's AWD but i was waiting for this thing in a TDI forever.....shit any gonna happen no more.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 7 жыл бұрын
You and 7 or 8 other people.
@alexs1429
@alexs1429 7 жыл бұрын
P Pha it's unfortunate that they're not making it in TDI
@djayt1215
@djayt1215 7 жыл бұрын
your pt cruiser also spewed more toxic emissions.
@poopieshmoe3107
@poopieshmoe3107 7 жыл бұрын
you just have to know the right people to get the Tdi model here in the USA and be ok that it doesn't have the Tdi badge on the back, better price too to buy an independently imported one.
@DEVUNK88
@DEVUNK88 7 жыл бұрын
I've heard from a local vw shop that VW is dropping tdi production, not sure if I believe that but it wont be coming to the states, but I'm sure you could have one shipped from germany, or special ordered if you knew who to ask
@allthingssamsung1988
@allthingssamsung1988 7 жыл бұрын
Can this Wagon be "Catagorized ' as a cheap version of an Audi Allroad?
@hirmizb
@hirmizb 7 жыл бұрын
This can be, however I would recommend and allroad if you have been already looking at it as the Quattro system has better technology than the 4motion, and on the allroad it's standard
@copbikeralex
@copbikeralex 7 жыл бұрын
The new A4/Allroad and the AWD Sportwagen/Alltrack both share the same AWD system, Haldex. Same as the Golf R, Tiguan, A3/S3, Q3/5; though there are minor tweaks here and there. Then you get Torsen AWD systems in the Touareg/Q7/larger Audi sedans. Then there is an entirely different AWD system for the R8. 4Motion and Quattro really is just marketing and branding. I'd say a "cheap" Audi Allroad is a great way to describe it. Less features and a little less power, but same general idea.
@buildmorefarms1007
@buildmorefarms1007 7 жыл бұрын
It is more of a crossover than the Mazda cx3.
@judzer
@judzer 7 жыл бұрын
this or all road??? what would you get
@timothygermann780
@timothygermann780 7 жыл бұрын
Well this car starts at $25000 and the Audi Allroad starts at $45,000. So they don't really compete.
@frankie.d1127
@frankie.d1127 7 жыл бұрын
Timothy Germann I hear your point, but VW and Audi share many parts and platforms. If you look closely, many Audi interiors are looking so similar now. It's getting annoying. I'd take this over the all road. Who cares about the badge
@danielboyd7810
@danielboyd7810 6 жыл бұрын
Francois DuJour I know this comment is old but I figured I would share that the all road and the alltrac are two completely different cars. Different engines, transmissions and AWD systems. The all road is an actual Quattro system. Also while Audi and VW are part of the same company, the interior styling of the two are not similar in any way.
@SuperNiceguy60
@SuperNiceguy60 7 жыл бұрын
Its Disgusting Corrupt EPA , picked on 4 & 3 Cylinder engines capable of 67 MPG while you can still by a Hellcat and waste 18 Gallons of fuel in 12 Minutes or Buy a Heavy Duty Pick up Truck with 6.7L diesel engine with no Issues . I know , I Know lets blame the VW golf for U.S pollution problems
@debouncerkevin9826
@debouncerkevin9826 6 жыл бұрын
i would put my hand in a donkeys but hole than be in a room with LP
@debouncerkevin9826
@debouncerkevin9826 6 жыл бұрын
You have issues
@alexisjordanschreiner1471
@alexisjordanschreiner1471 7 жыл бұрын
...this vs subaru crosstrek
@davidjohnston4345
@davidjohnston4345 3 жыл бұрын
The altrack competes with the crosstrek.
@Roman-uc3bs
@Roman-uc3bs 7 жыл бұрын
When off roading, youre supposed to feather the throttle and let the car send the perfect amount of power to the 4 wheels, that way, no dust gets kicked up. Roman, you know better than this!
@acuramattb4525
@acuramattb4525 7 жыл бұрын
Cheaper Audi allroad??? Same thing??
@blakenichols3205
@blakenichols3205 7 жыл бұрын
This thing is a 2" lift and a set of all terrains away from being really cool.
@ryanslemmer5905
@ryanslemmer5905 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure I would have compared it straight up to the Outback... Just considering the size gap. Sure power is the same at around 170 at the same price point, but it's really more in line with the Crosstrek, with a little extra cargo space. Not saying I wouldn't give it a run (well okay I wouldn't... I prefer my mid-size sedan) but it definitely fits a purpose that VW owners have been longing for... Sort of... Getting them in the ruggedish AWD cute-ute. I would take this over.... say a Fiat 500X, Jeep Renegade, and HRV in a heartbeat... Best left to harsh winters vs true adventure seeking imho.
@jamesmoir7709
@jamesmoir7709 7 жыл бұрын
It is a cool wagon. But i wouldnt say its a station wagon. Atleast when i think station wagon I think an old b body chevy caprice wagon or the old pontiac wagons. Full size and rwd. I find that a station wagon. This is a mid size wagon id say. But still cool nonetheless. I like wagons personally better than crossovers. I think it be cooler if more manufacturers brought back the full size wagon. Like something the size of the new chevy ss but in wagon form. That would be interesting to see.
@traymuse3810
@traymuse3810 7 жыл бұрын
they don't make station wagon s like that anymore
@jamesmoir7709
@jamesmoir7709 7 жыл бұрын
Tray Muse I know right. Tis a shame.
@kimandrews7293
@kimandrews7293 7 жыл бұрын
back when gas was a quarter of the price right now....
@copbikeralex
@copbikeralex 7 жыл бұрын
I'm with you to a degree (an a couple months late to comment lol), but they kinda do make full-size wagons still, they just don't make it to North America. The Passat Wagon, also offered with an "Alltrack" variant, is much, much bigger. We just love our bloated SUVs way to much... it's a shame really.
@67tomcat
@67tomcat 7 жыл бұрын
Almost no one with any CUV goes "offroad". All this "offroad" stuff is pretty hysterical. Nice car, and you'll be able to buy a 4Motion Sportwagen without the cladding too.....
@macaron3141592653
@macaron3141592653 6 жыл бұрын
This thing needs limited slip/locking diffs to work offroad...
@xxxmosh
@xxxmosh 7 жыл бұрын
This thing with a stage 1 tune will be amazing.
@dylanb9675
@dylanb9675 7 жыл бұрын
I was going to get an '18 Crosstrek, but Subaru did nothing with the god awful engine. In my '16 Crosstrek, I feel like I am going to die whenever I merge onto the highway or pull into traffic. It is awful, slow, and unresponsive. The Alltrack is looking more and more like my next car. It is slightly more expensive, but what you get for that couple thousand more seems to make up for the price difference in droves.
@Jeepingshort
@Jeepingshort 7 жыл бұрын
Dylan B get it! you won't regret it. i just came from a crosstrek too!
@everyone_knows_itsbutterst7808
@everyone_knows_itsbutterst7808 5 жыл бұрын
If you take it off-road you better put on a panzer plate or you will break your oil pan.
@CareyVandenberg
@CareyVandenberg 7 жыл бұрын
Hhhmmm... I have a 2008 Subaru WRX 5 door. I want another wagon that is AWD and I'd buy another Subaru but they make them all way too high. The VW is very appealing to me but... 170 hp? My WRX has 228 so I think I'd be disappointed in the power difference however, the thing that makes me question the VW's AWD vs my Subaru is how the tires were spinning on the dirt road in this video. I'm going to have to take the VW fAlltrack or a test drive in the wet and punch it off the line. I'm afraid I'm going to be really let down in what they call AWD. I thought I had found a replacement for my Subaru WRX in this but, this video tells me probably not.
@mssmssmssmss
@mssmssmssmss 7 жыл бұрын
I hope you'll let us know what you think once you try it out! I'm interested but just got a Sportwagen last year, so I'm still in "thinking about it" mode.
@ashkebora7262
@ashkebora7262 6 жыл бұрын
VW's AWD is definitely not as grippy as Subaru's good oldschool tech. 90/10 until it thinks something else is needed pales in comparison to Subi's pretty even split right off the bat. People keep calling VW's AWD the same as Audi's Haldex stuff, and a lot of people have said it's a pretty dang good AWD system, though I'm no car expert, so I can't say much about how accurate either of those points are. Nor have I really gotten either car I've owned in a tough off road situation. I bought a 2017 Alltrack to replace a crashed '15 Impreza 5D. The interior is far better, and it has noticeably better ground clearance (at least it feels like it), though the AWD system even on the road feels a bit lesser. That said, it seems to have a lot more getup and go, although that could be that I have a manual with the VW, so it's me controlling it and not some damn economical computer.
@ChristopherWalkenPUA
@ChristopherWalkenPUA 7 жыл бұрын
Too bad Subaru foolishly cut you off from their press cars. The outback would probably destroy this in a head to head off road video and have much better reliability and lower maintenance costs over time.
@happybeing777
@happybeing777 7 жыл бұрын
i wish this car was a little bit bigger
@AnthonyGonzalez-lw1ek
@AnthonyGonzalez-lw1ek 7 жыл бұрын
Vw put ko2 tires standard out the door
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