its the wheelspin, not the transmission.

@@jxmar_ its not, its the wheelspin. Wheelspin kills speed. If he had TC on he would have a better 0-60 time. Look at videos where TC is enabled, its much faster and it doesnt shift early (it shifted early because it was at redline before the wheels could get grip. The car thought it was going faster than it really was). Also, look at the gear ratios of the 8 speed, its on par with other 8 speeds in the industry.

No it doesn’t.. it’s crazy how nobody in these comments seems to understand a thing about ratios or finals drives but okay. The 8 speed is better in every way

@@bpearr8266actually the previous generation of v6 camry had better ratio despite the fact that it had 6 gears. I don't know why they give it 2 more gears with worse ratio?!! From what I know more gears=better ratio

The new Avalon has shorter gears and it’s slower. The space between 1-2 and 2-3 is what is killing acceleration. The RPM’s should NEVER drop below 5,000rpm in an 8 speed auto. All of the power this engine makes is felt after 5,500 RPM. So really, it’s a pretty big ass loss in power after every shift.

Charlie The Avalon is slower because its heavier. The shorter gearing would make the Camry much faster. Also since this is naturally aspirated it makes power on the high end so the gearing should be shorter anyways

Raafid K the avalon’s only like 200 pounds heavier.

Shorter gears help only the turbo vehicles as it keeps the boost pressure high. On an NA engine where the powerband flatlines around 4000-5500 there is zero reason to not use the entire power band and not waste time on shifts.

@@singular9 You have no idea what you are talking about. The gearing has nothing to do with boost pressure. If anything if you have shorter gears in a turbo car you will actually be out of boost more often as you will shift earlier. Having short gears in a turbo car, one that generally has a broad torque curve which most factory turbo cars have is actually going to be slower. Modern na engines like to rev out to get the most power so what you are saying is flipped. You want to be revving out this toyota v6. Look at peak hp rpms, not peak tq rpm values.

Moist Chungus the 1-2 shift just kills the 0-60 times. But she is great on the highway. The car pulls as hard at 130 as it does at 60. I can’t wait to find a way to recover the limiter because it has way mph in it.

It still hits 60 in a little over 6 seconds which is still quicker than most cars on the road. It just seems slow when it shifts into second because of how the tranny is set up. 2nd gear is way too tall especially considering its an 8 speed.

92ASC 6 seconds ain't bad but I have a bias for the taurus sho

Moist Chungus SHOs are quick, but they don't even compete with the Camry, especially not a SHO. The Avalon would be a more direct competitor, but Toyota doesn't make a high-performance version like Ford does.

92ASC Ford isn’t going to be making any sedans at all within the next two years

Assen Spassov yeah the trans shifts way too slowly into second. I think it’s to save the trans when it under hard power but I wish it shifted faster

manphantom666 Yeah now there’s a recall so i have to take mine up to the dealership.

Gearing is terrible on this and my 18 2.5 le smh more agressive 1-5 gears atleast would have helped out so much.. this seems so slow compared to v6 accord or 10spd 2.0t ... dont get me wrong love my camry just wish they performed better... my 8spd only sometimes kicks down under wot... 200 hp was enough for alot of other cars to accelerate much better... shoot my 2015 sonata eco is better on gas and would mop the floor with camry 4cyl

1320vids i got the 2012 Camry Se 4 cyl , that shit goes , 6 speed auto , it’s peppy , gonna get throttle body spacer , already have drop in filter , and gonna install a performance mass air flow sensor .. should really improve performance

Assen Spassov it's very simple. There's too much wheel spin in first gear so it hits the red line and then shifts into second but at that speed it's already going too fast to shift back into first. Compare to the Sienna that I drive sometime with the 8-speed automatic big ears on here how much longer

I wish camry V6 would added supercharged & awd version. So it'd run the same like Dodge charger RT

alexis700 ur an absolute knob the colder the air the better it’s denser, so this thing should be at max potential engine wise with such cold air, however the temperature could also be the reason the tires aren’t getting traction

Jeff Hazar not as of yet I have not. OrangeVirus Tuning offers software to tuning these cars but I haven’t found out yet what all can actually be modified with it.

Ab Yang I’m about an hour from there just outside of Allentown.

It’s just the torque converter doing it’s thing. No bogging

The trd Camry's have much better gearing and can hit 60 in 5.6 sec

@@noahhedrick1156 the gearing is the exact same. They come with summer tires.

@@noahhedrick1156 same gearing and speed. Google it. This and the TRD are the same with the same motor and trans, TRD has better tires and other handling aspects but not much of a difference when it comes to a straight line

The gearing isn't weird, this is how NA engines should be tuned...

@@singular9 no, the car doesn’t have enough power to make use with its awful gearing. NA cars work better with small gears to keep them in the power band. Turbo cars with the broad torque curve can handle wide gearing better.

Finn Mcmissile No, it didn’t skip any shifts. 1-2 happens at 33mph, 2-3 happens at 59. Ist gear is 5.25:1, 2nd gear is 3.03:1, do the math, set up a proportion and you see that it shifted in sequence. 33 * 5.25 / 3.03 = 59. So yes it definitely shifted sequentially without skipping. The math doesn’t lie.

My Chrysler 200 v6 keeps it in first.

It’s all about how you tune it. This car is shitty as hell

Shunsui Kyoraku usless there no additional horsepower to it

SaN AnToNiO-Saints Fan I have the car at the STE Performance right now and they are developing a mid pipe so they can offer a full car back. I have a few videos of the car from the outside with just the muffler deletes but in the videos the exhaust is still quite enough that you can’t really tell there is anything done to it. I asked STE Performance to do a longer video of some in car and flybys once it’s finished since their video editing is way better then mine.

SaN AnToNiO-Saints Fan find me on Instagram and I message me, I can send you the couple of short videos I have of the exhaust from outside. @jharrington117

boosted117 I requested to follow you, my user name says tony tiger 27.

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They should tune it like they did the awd sienna.

@@occckid123 yes!!

The gears are perfectly tuned, the faster you go the shorter the gears get which is exactly what these n/a v6s need

it looked more like it shifted to 4th gear looking at how the rpm dropped to 3900~

Second gear isn’t that tall, the final drive is what stretches the gears out

The tires lost grip and the car shifted early It didn’t catch a grip until 2nd gear came along

9914life not sure but I will find out once I can figure out how to remove the speed limiter. Considering how hard it was pulling at 130 and the fact that it was only in 5 gear my guess is definitely north of 150 maybe even north of 160.

@@boosted117 definitely above 160

A tune wouldn't fix this. This is intentional, first gear is so quick there is no time to lock up the torque converter, this is why the shift to second "seems" slow, but its not. Its an auto with a torque converter, the engine never stops sending power, so disregard the "needle" on the tac as its only an indicator, the shift itself rarely takes more than .1 seconds, if you had ears, you could hear the shift lol

The Saurus yeah I’m not really sure either. While the car runs good up to 60 it could be a little faster. The gearing is really killing its 0-60. I posted this video of it up to the limiter since no one else has because this car really shines at higher speeds. It’s crazy the stuff this car hangs on highway rolls.

boosted117 Yeah i know what you mean😂, i have the XSE V6 too, my nephew said “uncle hit it!” and Jesus we were flying.

I've done it in a TRD but I don't exactly know how to get a launch control in a XSE

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The Ricer Mechanics it does🤣

It's FWD, not much you can do about that when you have a high powered engine there. The torque steer is ridiculous on these things.

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Michael Atwood you should trade it in It was slow because of the wheel spin.

Not even close

Julius SD IS300... Uh... yeahhh 🤦🏾‍♂️😒

Not really. V6's sound very different to Straight-6's. I get what you're trying to say though.

Naw

no, not even close to the GE either lolz

DON Y yes I do. It’s very conservatively tunes from the factory so no need for high octane yet. I am on the look out for some tuning options and then I can throw so more timing at it and I will switch to high octane.

Abel Diaz if it weren’t for the limiter it definitely would do a lot more. With the gearing it has and as hard as it was accelerating at 130+ I wouldn’t doubt this car would go 160 or more without a limiter.

@@boosted117 dunno bout 160 or more given a 370z is drag limited at 160mph. I wouldn't be too surprised if it did 150 though with a very long stretch of road.

He had traction issues

Jennifer Foy that’s definitely the 18 XSE V6 because i have it.

The Saurus I have the XSE V6. The display love looked different to me. I keep my display showing the car aligned with the road. I love my Camry. Sold my 07 SE V6 for this one. The best Camry yet!👍🏻

Jennifer Foy Oh that’s why it looked different to you lol, mine goes much faster than this cause the engine is broken in now.

Sport

Lorraine Smutzler it breaks traction way too easy at low speed. It was pretty cold which didn’t help though

Toyota has always shipped their vehicles with some of the most mediocre tires out there.

David Seitz well I've rented some corolla's and camry's and they have a limit of 115 in sport mode.

Ricer Garage every Camry I've owned was between 134-136 and I've owned a 1997, 2002, 2007, 2012 and a 2017

David Seitz u owned all v6?

@@whiteboysixty5 my 2000 v6 xle hit 140mph so i guess there was no limiter for that year

Hate to tell y’all but I hit 140 in my SE lmao that’s a damn lie if my 4 cylinder car out ran a XSE V6

I had a 94 Celica with that engine 😃 yup it topped out at like 120 ish.

@Rod Redline My issue doesn't have to do with traction control (albeit maybe it made it worse, but is same with every car), it's the gearing. This is like a 1-2 shift from a 4 speed auto from the 80s. No amount of tuning will ever cure it either.

ProVishGaming Looks like it still had one more gear to go

From the looks this engine can reach 150 mph easily

@@charlesjackson1700 nah, bmw 8 speed autos have much shorter 1-4 gear ratios and still sit at 2k rpm at 80 mph, perfect for fuel economy. this is just poor design.

Yeah until your on a hilly road. Lol

@SUPER SAIYAN. LOL Sounds like a comment from a donut head with a thin wallet. 3.5 V6 300 hp vs 206 hp for 4 cylinder. V6 Torque and hp is ~ 47% greater throughout rev range. Car with V6 and driver is only 8% heavier. V6 is smoother and quieter and at normal cruising or normal acceleration is barely working. It would outlast any 4 cylinder. Only downside to V6 is you go through more tires and fuel.

This will beat all of them after 60

They can, it is limited only

Oh yes they can easily do 160

He spun 1st and transmission kept the car in 2nd after take off. Hate when auto trans does that lol

Even with that. 60 and up also look the same. I even timed it with my old video.

It’s 6 degrees F and still isn’t impressive.

CP100 It really isnt you're totally right.. my friend was bragging saying he beat the new 2018 camry v6 and wanted to race me now, but i own the 07 camry v6 and im like dude you dont understand there is a huge difference in power between the cars. You could almost compare the v6 to the 4 cylinder it has when ti comes to 0- 60.

TooHighhUup you would spank him

Poosion!!

Well at least this one won't break down...

thats all you got? lol you have no clue what you are talking about

Ford = breakdown should have gotten a Yoder bud

lol can anyone understand this guy?

It can hit 160 without the limiter!!

Christian Sanchez it lost traction

Where do you get that nonsense? It is about liability and safety. They cannot allow the max. speed to exceed the rating of the tires installed when it leaves the factory.

@@kannermw your mom

The new Accord 10 speed beats the Camry 0-60 because of its very smart gearing. The Camry does pull away from the Accord on its upper RPM’s, but it quits pulling after every shift. So really, it’s going to come down to whoever gets the jump and best traction. Both cars are beasts, just simply in different ways

@@Michael-hz2pl I have a V6 Accord not the new one lol

they clock this one at 5.5-5.8 seconds for 0-60. may look slower but it isn’t. there was wheel spin through first gear.

@@user-oq3lv6lv7x The 1-2 shift is awfully slow too

honda 2.0t caps at 120 thats the only thing i hate about the new ones

Ryan Brown that’s a lie I went 139

@@ryanbrown9985 125mph

the shifts are fast, go by ear not by needle on the tac. The needle doesn't move all that fast.

Not at all, it was the wheel spin that made it seem slow down low, they are very quick cars

@@bluesky-ud9wg I think it's the longer gearing. I wasn't thinking about the first gear wheel spin but after 40mph pull. Doesn't seem like an improvement compared to this and some other vids. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pp-dd5yiya7Dcqc.html

@@basslover352You should test drive one or an Avalon, they will surprise you

@@bluesky-ud9wg I'd probably be disappointed if I'm honest. That trans is a real set back. As for power it's nothing crazy.

@@basslover352well ok

Some cars either won't bottom out the speedometer because A: it's electronically limited from doing so, or B: it simply doesn't have enough power. Take my 3rd gen camry with the 2.2 for example. Stock AF it pulls decently under 70-80mph, but even though the speedometer goes to 140mph, you'll have a hard time pushing it faster than 110, 111, 112 on flat ground.

Another fun fact: the 2004 generation Volvo XC70 has the power, the gearing, and the aerodynamics to reach the 160mph top speed on the gauge cluster, but it's electronically limited to 119mph. Ask me how I know lol

KZfaq Paul I know😩. I still for the life of me can’t figure out why they geared it like that. Don’t get me wrong it awesome for cruising at higher speeds, it only turns 2k rpm while cruising at 100mph. But why they geared it to the moon is beyond me, it’s as if it has four regular gears and four overdrives.

You might be able to find a lightly used one for $25kish, but they’re definitely not worth more than 30k

I think my 2017 V6 is faster, it has a 6-speed transmission.

juan vidal In perfect traction scenarios, it has the same 0-60 time as the 2007-2017 V6 models The 2018+V6 is only faster AFTER 60

ELPJM09 what the hell is a V4?

I wonder what would that look like on a car

Dion Adesh Juco lmao😂😂

wrong, turbo engines have ECUs designed to pull back on timing to reduce knock, and if equipped with octane sensors, they won't have knock issues in the first place. only problem is you lose power and efficiency. They're not prone to more problems other than replacing the turbo every 100k-200k miles, and they have the same or longer oil change intervals due to recent breakthroughs in oil engineering.

the 4 cylinder wouldnt do 0-60 in 6.3 seconds. The '18+ camry v6 is just slower with the new 8 speed ( look at that 2nd gear). Given the low temp, it should be doing 5.8-6 sec with good traction.

MY MOMS 97 CAMRY HAD NO GOVERNER AND I HAD IT AT 142 MAX

4cylinder 97 camry at that

Chuchu Yaya I’m agree, the car shift too early and too slowly which kills the 0-60 time. I’m in the process of finding some reliable data on tuning to help with this issue. But not much I can do about the long gears. The car is only in 5th at the 135 and it could probably have done it in 4th if it hadn’t shifted early. I wish the gears wear a little closer together. On the upside this thing will cruise at 100mph only turning 2000rpm.

True the 2015 Camry v6 hits 40 first gear quick this one seems to only do 30

Even my 1989 Camry holds first until 40

About 6 sec... that’s decent for a 4dr family car 🤷🏻‍♂️

Celeb Stats AWD and twin turbo V6 should rape this from a dig. But start timing your 80mph+ stuff and the Camry closes the gap. This is actually quicker 80-100 then the considerably more powerful fusion sport. No matters though, my Hellcat from my other dyno video will destroy them both.

You can't cherry pick small intervals. The Fusion sport shifts into 4th at around 80-82 MPH whereas you are in the meat of your powerband. Run them from 60 to 110 and I bet on my Fusion though I admit it would be closer than from a dig where you would get killed. More to the point if I were to cherry pick an interval I would pick 30- to 60 where your car looks like it is stuck in the mud. Which btw is super disappointing because that is an interval you don't want to suck in day to day driving. But hey, no car is perfect. In the Fusion Sport if I start a pull at 40mph, I can only catch 3rd gear even in sport mode, and second gear would run to nearly 50 if I could catch it. It makes a big difference. As for the Hellcat comment, who cares?! I was comparing two cars that compete directly with each other with similar MSRPs , though the Fusion is discounted much more heavily and is therefore much more affordable. Though I do gladly concede the point that the Fusion Sport should be faster than it is with a twin turbo v6 and all wheel drive, but the transmission is really second rate. Lastly, I stand by my original comment, I truly thought the Camry would be quicker than this. I thought it would be sub 14 second car. I like the Camry, I wanted the Camry to be awesome, but I bought the Ford because the Camry looks more like a paper tiger than it should be and it costs a lot more.

Celeb Stats Plus with a simple tune the Ford Fusion Sport can go to 60 in around 3.5s.

It can't. The 2019 Nissan Altima 2.5 is faster. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qcWjpaRksOCpaI0.html

You're talking as if a camry is the end all sports sedan when it's not even close. Sure the new one handles better than the previous gens but it's not sports sedan level. The old gen v6 camry has nearly identical acceleration. Honestly that was more of a sleeper than today's sharper looking camry.