I have Ioniq Ultimate HEV (3K miles old) but getting 50 at max, is economy increasing over miles?

A little, I am even logging miles on my phone. The ECU seems off a bit, the car told me 58mpg I got 55 that tank using what gas pump said vs mileage. It could even be just weight difference of your car with 17s (225mm wide) vs my 15s (195mm wide) , sunroof etc. I never got below 51 mpg even driving in sport mode for shits and giggles. I have already put nearly 7000 miles on car since January.

And that's why I love KZfaq comments section. Actual owners experience. I know I add nothing to this discussion but I want to thank all of you for your contributions. 👍🏾👍🏾 Most new cars improve on fuel efficiency after breaking inn mileage. As you rack up the mileage, mpg should increase.

aivan0v if I remember things correctly, your trim is handicapped by more weight from added luxuries and wider/heavier tires

So that's the way to go eh? Hybrid? I have a 180 miles commute round trip.

update?

@@dnegel9546 I got a fully loaded used version. It had 52,000 miles. It’s been 2 years and it’s around 85,000 miles now. Love it. And it’s incredible for gas mileage. I often just drive on the 29 miles of electric and if I need to go over, it’s 55 miles per gallon of gas. I’m totally sold on Hyundai now and my next car will definitely be the fully electric Ioniq 6.

@@TheRyanBarker yeah i just seen a blue model for 17k and 55k miles. and got me thinking about getting it. the ionic6 N will be amazing. but even the regular 6 looks great. wish my house was set up for EVs or i would just get an ev.

How miles in total now and how many on Battery only

Oh poop!

Alex on Autos Oh Shit

Don't need no stinkin' high-tech for "autonomous barking". My dog provides that service just fine. :)

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Would it be right to think that the Ioniq's engine is more independent from the electrics of the Prius and so gets its heating straight from the engine like any other conventional car and maybe still runs an alternator to charge its 12 volt battery, Also i heard that if the hybrid battery on the Prius was depleted stuck on the road side you would not be able start the engine. Do you think considering what im trying to imply here problems like that may not be the case with the IONIQ ?

How miles in total now and how many on Battery only

Perfect! How many miles in total and how many on Battery

You could have bought the Ioniq Plugin from another state & registered it in Florida..... I do stuff like that all the time .

Scott oh yeah. He trolls us with them. Makes me laugh.

Such a clever fellow, that Alex is.

just look at a prius with more luxury lol

They do its called the Clarity PHEV

Yeah Honda really did invest in their Clarity line for that. The Insight is pretty much replacing their Civic Hybrid. Would be insane if there was EV insight in the future. Mmmm.

Over $10,500 more for a clarity! No thanks! Prius hybrid vs Prime, less then $4000 Ioniq hybrid vs plug in is almost only a $2500 difference. Clarity is not just a plug in Insight, Plus, I like that the Insight isn't as long & I don't like the suede material on the Clarity.

New Insight == Civic Hybrid..... Honda just changed the name .

Look up the EPA rating (fuel economy.gov) and multiply by the size of the tank (google). Easy .

sunroof is comes in and optional pakage, 2900 dollars.

Dan what else did you look at, Ford Fusion Energi, prius prime, Niro? I wish the Volt was just slightly bigger, but the 53 EV sounds amazing. My work commute is 14 miles a day, so I am open to the EV range, but the Volt I would not have to charge daily which really sounds great..... thanks..

Prius Prime and Niro weren't around when I was looking. Ford Fusion Energi was, but I didn't look because it didn't have the EV range. I have to say that the more you drive a PHEV in EV mode, the less you like the switch to ICE mode when it happens. I've gotten to the point that I know I wouldn't consider anything but a pure EV for my next car, even though the charging infrastructure isn't where I want it to be yet. If I were looking now, I'd lean towards a Chevy Bolt or Tesla Model 3. In a few months, I would add the longer range Nissan Leaf to that list.

It does not have the multi-link suspension which is why handling is not as good. It's due to the larger battery pack. The same thing is true with the Prius Prime.

Actually, the Ioniq plug-in does have a multi-link rear suspension. Only the full EV gets a torsion beam. And the Prius Prime still has a double wishbone rear suspension, same as the regular Prius.

I think you only get the tax credit if you get the straight-up EV.

plug ins get up to 7500 tax credit too

The plug-in gets up to $4500, not $7500. Still, it makes it a better deal than the regular hybrid, even before state incentives.

The EV tax credit is formulaic (size of battery and such) that's why you see vehicles like this Ioniq getting less of a credit ($4500) than others like the Chevy Volt ($7500) even though both are plug in hybrids.

Hybrid is way lower payments than the Plug-in, even with the government incentives factored in, at least in where I live. A lease of 33 months, PHEV base trim compared to the Hybrid 2nd trim is over $100 more per month Canadian Dollar.

Lionnel L - from what I have read elsewhere, the Hyundai (and Kia) Phev charges the battery when in sport mode, apparently at a fairly rapid rate. Why they haven't publicised this is beyond me.

Richard Weaver thanks for looking out. Would you share the link of that relevant reading please? Cheers!

You can also choose to recharge the battery by using regenerative breaking by pressing a button near the steering column vs using the brake pedal.

I'd PHEV. There's very little downside once you factor in the tax credit.

Insight next week, Accord soon!

Thank you, your reviews are the best! 👍

strange that the accord hybrid has been out for 3 months now and there are 0 official reviews. That doesn't look like a good sign.

KJ. Why? Hondas make shit hybrids

So it technically only has 27 miles of EV unless you turn off all the hvac, then it gives you 29. (I have the 2019 PHEV). If you go up hills or mountains, you’ll get less. And if it’s relatively cold outside it’ll use the gas engine to heat. There’s a button at 9:19 where you can choose to run it as EV only or HEV. If you run out of EV it’ll automatically turn to hybrid. I recommend using EV mode on local roads, stop and go traffic, or if your entire round trip is less than 27 miles. Use HEV for long road trips or smooth highways.

prius, prius prime, corolla, insight, niro, ioniq, all have the same wheel base 106.3 inch the diferences are en biger bumpers or nose or tail. but th.e ioniq is wider than the other ones mentioned, from 1 to 2 inch

Efficiency measures energy consumption, not range. The Ioniq PHEV will use less electricity to cover the same distance than a Volt when each one is using electricity only (takes less electricity for the Ioniq PHEV to go 10 miles than the Volt to go 10 miles). The Ioniq PHEV will use less gasoline to cover the same distance than a Volt when it is burning gasoline to generate electricity for its motor (after the battery is depleted). Therefore, the Ioniq is more energy-efficient than the Volt. However, efficiency will not always save money--it depends on many variables. In my case (in non-COVID lockdown mode), I have a 3x200 mile roundtrip commute/week for work. I live in a place where gasoline is 4.90$/gal and electricity costs .09$/kWh. I do not have charging at work. So, under ideal conditions, on the roundtrip, I will get 23 extra miles on electricity with the Volt than with the Ioniq PHEV. However, I will use far less gasoline (which is a lot more expensive than electricity) with the Ioniq than the Volt for the whole commute. Overall, I would save more money with the Ioniq. If the spread of gasoline and electricity costs was very different, it might make more sense for me to have a Volt (but in my situation, I would save several hundred dollars a year on gasoline with an Ioniq). On the other four days, with required driving, I would easily fit my daily driving within the Ioniq's EV range. Now, if my commute was within 50 miles round trip, the Volt would be a much better option. In that case, I would only need gasoline for long distance recreational trips and would save a lot more money than with an Ioniq PHEV on energy costs. I would be in EV mode 95% of the time in such a commuting pattern. However, I would still be using more electricity per mile than the Ioniq, so while I would be saving money, I would not be more efficient. Now that we are in the ICE/Hybrid/PHEV/EV universe of many options, it's not as straightforward as it used to be to select the vehicle that best meets one's individual use case needs. If I lived in a warmer climate, I would get an EV. But my long-distance commutes are unneeded in summer, not winter (I teach at two colleges, each about 100 miles from home, in different directions, so I get summers off, not winters). And winters get cold (-20C and lower on a regular, albeit not sustained, basis). Cold EV driving means longer charging times (and who wants to add nearly an hour to a 200 mile round trip in winter?). So a PHEV is a better option for me at this time (affordable EVs where winter is not a factor, time-wise, are not around yet). Which PHEV? My particular case narrows it down to the Ioniq PHEV or the Prius Prime. My best friend (whose commute is always within 50 miles)? A Volt or Clarity would be the best. But I would still get to brag about efficiency.

@@Ovationhabs thank you for your excelent explanation. It is true that all electric/hybrid/plug-in vehicles are not equal. I guess we are not yet used to compare this types of cars like we are used to compare ICE cars.

Pretty much the Chevy Volt and maybe the Honda Clarity. But that’s about it.

I test drove the Clarity. I would not describe it as zippy. Definitely the Volt though.

The whole Ioniq line was designed from the ground up to be at least be partially electrified. The Plug-in manages to get a respectable 119 MPGe rating, which is right up there with traditional EVs such as the e-Golf and the Bolt, but not as good as the Ioniq EV or Model 3. Compared to other PHEVs, they're also near the top of the pack, only bested by the Prius Prime. Source: www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/topten.jsp?year=2018&action=AllYears That isn't to say engineering compromises weren't made due to cost and consistency, but they're not as bad as shoehorning a hybrid drive train into a Sonata. More power to you to get the more efficient all electric version, but that comes with range anxiety for some types of drivers. Regardless of what you choose, it looks like Hyundai is trying to deliver a highly efficient affordable versatile cars in the Ioniq line-up. Unfortunately it looks like it may be difficult to find inventory across the US for the Plug-in and EV versions.

Hi there, just wondering if you had changed your wheels to 17". If so did they work? Did you get them with the dealer or aftermarket? Can you please share your experience. I have also got Ioniq PHEV and planning to switch them to 17."

Praveen, nope. I still drive my 17". Getting sth like 50-52 MPG. What trim do you have and where do you live?

I drive plug in hybrid limited trim, Canada

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Pretty solid comment there my man.

How about the Honda Clarity

Clarity is best of both worlds but minus the MPG and cargo room. More electric range tho.

prius plug in had a 5th seat, which they removed for the prime.

I can't stand the looks of the Prii, and that includes the interior. Too much toilet-white plastic, and I'd never buy a car with the instrument panel in the center. Cheap, cheap, cheap!

How is that? How do you turn it on?

Hold EVHV for couple second and you should see CHARGE mode in red on the screen.@@ralanham76

Low... It's an unknown car.

It's slightly smaller. 11.5 gallons vs 11.9 gallons.

yes 43 liters tank

Drafting is dangerous, but most cars don't keep a safe following distance anyway. The flow of traffic should never be higher than the posted speed limit in the first place, it would be better for everyone if the speed limit were actually enforced. Due to the short merge ramps on many freeways, the middle lane is the safest place to be while keeping the left lane open for passing and the right lane for merging and exiting.

Any lane left of the right-most is for passing, not driving.

falkin42 and the speed limit applies to all lanes, yet here we are

I'm specifically not saying anything about speed limits, only which lanes are for driving vs passing.

well they gave it such a weird name that no one really now how to pronounce or remember what it's named here in denmark so it is also called "eunuk" here :D So maybe not so much luck with the driver sitting right under the steering wheel peoples and sofa-lane driving and the world of time in rush hour peoples. ;-)

yeah but the Ioniq is 1000s of dollars cheaper, so it’s still more Dollars Saving over the life of the vehicle (you save the money upfront on day one) .

And the tiny cargo area.

How many people drive these cars with 5 passengers? Less than 0,5 %...

+Mgoblagulkablong Everyone with a family including me, every day. Even it it's only once a week, you're saying we need to either drive 2 cars or forego the trip altogether. Dumb response.

You are not everyone...

Break my beeeeef yo

hkmp5kpdw the Volt is absolutely a cross-shop in this segment. It's a PHEV compact hatch under $40k. If anything, the Clarity is the outlier right now as it's generally sized into it's own class.