Hope so too!

Good review bro, keep it up. you have pointed out an important message for Toyota's user in Malaysia. Toyota has some good products but we want more option like diesel and manual transmission variants.

Great to know! You sound like a happy owner.

Edwin Tan thanks for the input. Just went to Toyota S3 Wangsa Maju this afternoon. Initialy plan was to check out Vios as 2nd Car. But the Innova X test drive Car was so cun!! I just cant help it. Did the test drive and suprisingly was very impressed with the new look and space, I used to take Innova old model for my daily travelling commuting from JB to SPore. So i had this initial bored and negative impression of Innova. But this new model just a total 180degree turn over! With MYR5k discount + free goodies, the offer is sooo tempting!!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching!

power cukup tak kereta ni bang?

Thanks for getting my point of view. That being said, don't think got many such comments also lah. Vehicles like the Innova don't need a lot of power, but they certainly could use a healthy dose of torque from low revs so as not to stress the engine under heavy loads.

Of course. Though my point is, if you have the option of a diesel, this 2.0 petrol engine becomes a redundant option.

cheap car cant expect much,

Also, it doesn't help that our diesel quality are terrible (i.e:more soot) as compared to the euro v diesel

Fair point, themainmanontheblock. Your argument on the diesel stigma is correct, though I would also add that if you're looking at monocoque-based MPVs like the Serena or Biante, you have to go petrol. But the way I see it also is that the Innova is a vehicle of more rugged underpinnings - when one buys an Innova, the main criteria is robustness over refinement, and hence my belief that a diesel engine better suits this vehicle's brief. Thanks for watching!

fun fact: they used to offer diesel Unser but because it wasn't so popular, they decide not to offer it with the Innova.

Don't recall that in Malaysia. As far as I know, the Unser in Malaysia were all petrol. Unless... of course, the Unser Diesel was THAT unpopular that most people don't even remember it. Haha.

sounds familiar..... hmm vw 1.4 tsi, in my tiguan

2.0T for this size of vehicle might be heavy on FC though. The Weststar G10 is a good example.

kohson koh how is the fc? i heard tht tsi engine fc quite good..

Mohd Yasin Mohd Amin getting around 14 on 50/50

Bro its a 2.8 not a 2.0

Chua Ken Seng oh god no, imagine cvt whine every time you want to accelerate. The 6 speeder on the Innova is not bad I would say, just that it shifts too slow. At 110km/h, if I’m not mistaken, the engine rev is about 2.2k

I think the 6AT is a pretty okay transmission. Just can't mask the engine's lack of torque when you need to accelerate.

Since the innova is based on imf platform, I hope someone out there is 'wise enough ' to try to plunk an hilux engine into that chassis. 'legally'

Toyota cvt not as bad as proton or honda cvt. No whinning sound at high speed and the shift sometimes feel like u r driving a 7 speed auto gearbox. But when u press full throttle only you will see the characteristic of cvt, stuck at 5000 rpm. (Tested on sienta and altis)

Thanks for watching!

Memang tiada duanya~

Hahaha... hopefully.

Simple and thoughtful design.

The lack of rear a/c is the Outlander's only major drawback.

Yes sir. I get where you're coming from. Agree that the Innova is not meant for enthusiastic driving, hence my advocacy of a medium capacity diesel engine with low horsepower but high torque. The objective here is not for the car to accelerate hard, but merely to let it pull gently without straining the engine.

Low end torque really does matter alot, that's why I always tell my uncle auntie relatives and friends to reconsider when buying large vehicles like these with small petrol, non forced-induction/turbocharged engines. In the end and they just say "it doesn't matter laaa, your uncle drive very slow one and we don't want noisy diesel sound..." The ultimate victim of not enough torque is my friend's dad who uses his first gen 1.6 non-turbo Proton Exora for heavy loading and end up going backwards instead of forward while trying to accelerate up a hill. They ended up reversing far away then accelerate VERY hard on a flat road to keep a fast momentum up for that hill climb. Keep in mind that the old Exora only has 150nm of torque and the Innova is 190nm which is not far away from being under torque and don't forget the Innova is nearly 1.7 tons which weights almost 200kg more than the Exora. So imagine the car with added 6-7 people of weight in the car trying to get to Genting...

Yes torque is far more important than horsepower to a large car like Innova. Just to share that my sister family (5 adults, 2 kids) used to go up to Genting with their Toyota Avanza 1.3 auto with the remaining space is full of luggage, no joke :)

I am totally agree with you

Underpowered cars tend to have worst fuel consumption. My friend's facelifted Axia can only average around 15km/l with relaxing driving. My iriz 1.3 on the other hand can do 14km/l with occasional full throttle. I hope that now you know the Innova deserves slightly more power to make things more efficient.

Good idea, but don't have the headgear for it though.

Can try, but may be too small for the brakes and vehicle weight.

Would love to do that, but we don't even have 7 pax in the Aurizn team. Haha.

ano bah fuel comsuption ng gas na innova compared sa diesel..

doug demuro rip u r exposed

kohson koh expose?

Yeah.. abt 150-160hp is more than enough, but the extra torque comes in handy.

Kon Wai Luen yup. Like the torque when first time drive suv 7 seater. Driven a hilux 2.5L also but is modded so is more effortless to drive. Btw kon you will join the tour of nation 13-16july?

Yes, you coming not?

pikachu mouse where got diesel road tax is cheaper then petrol? 2.4 diesel gonna cost u about 1.6k myr

Not bad, pretty decent

What the innova new car 2021

News cars innova

Innova is better on the criteria you mention

You guys do get the diesel as welk too, right?

Heavy on fuel lor

Oh ya. Sorry. Because the engine is already struggling to pull the car at this tyre size. Any bigger wheel will only make the car even more sluggish.

The taxi models use the IAFM engine. Durability is ok for private use, actually, but I have heard of taxi drivers struggling to upkeep the car. Many of them prefer the Sylphy or Sentra.

Think Innova not suitable for Genting Run la. Haha.

lol

YUCK!!

Will be quite thirsty to pull such a heavy vehicle though

Will see if can get car to test

Kon Wai Luen do get it..

how quite do u want?

Oh yeah... sorry about that. Will amend.

Don't think they have test cars for these two models. Anybody can lend me one?

I can borrow mine but Im from Ipoh. Hehe.

Hahaha.. I checked to see there was no car behind before doing that.

ride comfort. cost of tyres.

Thanks for watching! Have to review under shade also, so because if surrounding too bright, there'll be glare when I'm shooting inside.

I think the diesel engine's fuel efficiency would be a big appeal.

Something like a low-cost Wish, yeah. haha

A 1.5-litre with 200hp will definitely need turbocharging, and you'll still get high fuel consumption from a petrol engine tasked to pull a heavy vehicle. The diesel engine's biggest advantage is low end torque, which allows you to pull the vehicle's heavy weight without needing to exert too much effort.

MPV trying to berlagak SUV

1.Driving power mode 2.Driving sport manual shirting 3.6 speed automatic transmission 4.97 oil 5.4 gear 6.Highway klang, ipoh, sungai besi,johor, genting highland 170km/j 7.sepang, nilai, salak, sungai pelek, dickson, melaka 120km/j

Nissan van 100km/I 5 speed manual transmission

Toyota innova range 690km

Range 700 km

Good to know your market has choices. To me, a heavy MPV like the Innova needs a low output but high torque diesel engine. Not for hard acceleration, but it ensures the engine is able to pull high loads gently without needing a lot of RPM.

Depends on what you are looking for. Serena is more modern, more spacious, and more refined. Innova is more robust and better-suited for rough use.

@@KonWaiLuen I am afraid that I have to tell you the second row seats of the Serena S Hybrid is not as comfy as the Exora and the Innova.

Bagi saya, kereta ini okay sahaja. Kalau nak kereta lasak, boleh pakai lah.

minyak jimat x

Kon, minyak petrol jimat tak kalau toyota innova ini.

@@sachimaru1009 minyak memang jimat gile

125 sgd in sg LOL

this car gives us problem free for 10 years use, they should bring modern car that can break easily and always buy their spare parts because their profit will increase by this stupid mindset

Wait bos wait. Got schedule

Economical....

2.8 diesel not necessary la. 2.4 would be just nice.

Boleh de-tune mah.

Diesel wouls be more reliable, actually. Haha

@@KonWaiLuen massive torque of diesel is addictive. But then selling price, roadtax, fuel price for diesel 2.4 vs petrol 2.0 r all higher.

Look cheap, but they are quite durable.

May be I should say "awwww yeahhhhhhh" next time. Hahaha

Neighbourhood living. Haha.

As a couple of other commenters point out, there is still a stigma against diesel engines from private buyers, which is a shame.

Kon Wai Luen.... I think that a lame statement from the business