Dude stop justifying this shitty car. This car is not good for winters. People who park outside. It's better to get a clarity plug in instead

@@shahaan400 I drove a 2015 Leaf for three years. All EVs suffer reduced range in the winters, including Teslas. Unless you're on a road trip, the Leaf+ will last a days worth of driving, even in the winder. Just like all EVs, the low center of gravity and girth makes it great driver in winter. The Leaf is the 9th best selling car in Norway.

This review is spot on. I too am a 1 year veteran of a 2020 Leaf.

After 2 months of thorough research of the LEAF, I'm a proud owner now of a 2018 LEAF SV with the Technology Pckage and I love it so far. This car is perfect for my 65 miles daily driving without any range anxiety.

It's probably a CVT reduction gear. Staying with a tradition of failure.

What experience do you have with CVT or did some other reviewer tell you that? Go drive it before commenting.

@@mark_r49 It was a joke Mark R.

@@TKevinBlanc sorry Kevin

@@TKevinBlanc I get so tired of people commenting on something without ever trying it. I drive a Rogue and love the economy of a CVT

Passive cooling is sufficient according to hundreds of thousands of data points, you can't argue against data. I have driven over 150.000 kilometers in a Leaf without issues. Chademo, is not an issue here in the EU since most all service providers setup stations with Chademo and CCS. Yes, I would have preferred a standardized solution and would have chosen CCS over Chademo. Now over to the Korean cars. I feel that Kia and Hyundai are a class below the Japanese when it comes to cars. I have tried to Kona and Ioniq over a weekend and was not impressed after comparing them to the Leaf with regards to build quality and ride. I do not agree with you on the value proposition. What it boils down for me is the total cost of ownership. The service costs are much higher on the KIA versus my Nissan Leaf. Someone has to pay for that 7 year warranty. I have owned all versions of the Leaf. My first 24kWh was a nightmare due to the limited range. After 23.000 kilometers I had 2% battery degradation. On my 30kWh the degradation was a little less due to less cycling of the battery, My 40kWh has less than 5% degradation after 32.000 kilometers . I have driven over 600 kilometers in a day with temps over 33 Celsius and battery temperature reaching 54 Celsius. This caused no harm to the battery. Please note, that Lithium Ion batteries need excessive heat once in awhile to break down the Dendrite's . In July I will receive my 62kWh Leaf. I almost bought the Tesla Model 3, but since I am a Procurement professional, I could not justify such a purchase. It all comes down to the total cost of ownership and no car beats the Nissan Leaf in that regard. Even Kelly Blue Book confirms this. The technology that the Nissan Leaf offers is far ahead of the Koreans. Nissan's ProPilot is my favorite feature. The car drives me to work. One would not believe how much stress ProPilot takes from your daily commute or long distance trip. A must have in my opinion. Heres a fun fact: www.zap-map.com/electric-taxi-company-clocks-100000-miles-in-nissan-leaf/

@@LostInIce4 How important cooling is depends completely on how hot it is where you live. Heat is a battery killer, no debate about that.

I thought they use fans to cool battery, not passive cooling.

H Sig Do you live in Arizona or Florida? Our leaf battery in Florida is not doing well because of the passive cooling. I was interested in the new longer range leaf. But since it lacks any thermal management I will pass on ot

@@LostInIce4 I have based my words on many reports that show a quite drastic degradation curve of earlier Leafs, e.g. www.carswithcords.net/2016/05/5-years-of-nissan-leaf-driving.html , www.preprints.org/manuscript/201803.0122/v1 (this shows a higher state of health decrease over time of the 30 kWh model than the 24 kWh model. Nissan themselves estimate a state of health decrease to 80% after 5 years. That state however was already reached by some of the sample cars after only 2 years (!) and found a mean of 9,9% (!!!!!!!)) PER YEAR!!! which is unacceptable. For sure temperature plays an important role, heat especially degrades battery health. Especially with the Nickel-Manganese-Cobalt batteries in the 30kWh Leafs (and other cars). I sadly have to admit, that also my favorite EV, the Kia eNiro has such a battery. But at least it has active liquid cooling / heating and a 7 year warranty. In contrast to this, Teslas (representing in this case a car with active cooling) have significantly less health decrease (or a bigger reserve of not reported capacity). Tesla Model 3 even has a warranty which guarantees at least 70% capacity when reaching 192.000km. That might be based on many factors, the Nickel-Cobalt-Aluminium-Oxide batteries being one, having bigger capacities, active cooling / heating, having more reserves all playing into this. That is why a Tesla is more expensive, I get that. If cheaper chemistries are taken, the car company however has to at least make sure that it covers the weakest points of that chemistry. In the Leaf's case, that seems to be heat. It might be that your future 62kWh Leaf has newer and therefore better chemistry and as it has more capacity, the recharge cycles can happen less often than with a smaller capacity. If you are a "procurement professional", you should however also have the (higher) capital loss over time on your Leaf in mind, due to a reduction in battery health and therefore range. Used Teslas sell for exceptional prices because they keep their range quite well. I would therefore never buy a used Leaf due to the mentioned problem. I couldn't care less about the built-in technology bells and whistles. If the car basics are not done right (and I count active battery cooling / heating as basic), all nice features of the world are not covering over that. I have researched a lot of EVs. There are not many EVs that don't have active battery cooling / heating anymore.

Mike Huntington get leafspy app and obd device

Almost 30,000 on my 2018 now and no appreciable degradation. Drive it and enjoy! Heat is an issue with multiple rapid charges or hot climate. Also in Canada, even the hottest day last summer only got the battery temp up to 3/4 on the gauge. -20 is a bit hard on range, but that is so with all EV's and ICE too. Maintenance so far has been tire rotations.

@@420031 Same here guys, My 2018 will be a year old in mid-May and I am currently at almost 21,000 kms. Absolutely zero issues and zero dollars spent on maintenance. Just tire swap from all-seasons to winters and now back again, which I would have to pay on any car, so does not count towards relative maintenance.

Look into LeafSpy mobile app. It give you nitty gritty detail and allow you to build statistics.

What’s wrong with ChaDemo charging? .

Ever hear of a public charging station????

yes.He is

@@Plisken65, sorry, I don’t follow what you’re asking…?

You're right, it would be worth a lease if it was cheap enough

What are they leasing for? Usually cars with crappy resale value have high lease rates, and nothing has worse resale value than a Nissan Leaf.

@@BoopSnoot Anywhere from $249 for the S to $375 for the SL on www.choosenissan.com. I wasn't able to find any for the Niro/Soul/Kona/Leaf Plus to compare. It is cheaper than the Bolt which is $429. Interestingly, an i3 can be had for $339, which is a substantially more expensive vehicle than the LEAF.

@@michaelhatfield5808 Eh, I can get a Jaguar XE or Kia Stinger or Lexus ES for $299 a month. That's a hard sell on an econobox, which is why electric vehicles aren't nearly as economical as they seem.

@@BoopSnoot 1. Apples vs oranges. 2. Take fuel, service, taxation and other things into account.

There issues weren't from heating based on my reading but the chemical makeup of their older battery's, passively cooled video cards, CPU's and battery's are still very common on the technology side of things. So long as they are matched to a sufficiently sized cooler and direct air-flow in an effective manner you don't always need to go that extra mile. True the lack of a managed heating system will reduce the range in winter, but it's ultimately the heat that does the really damage to a battery.

I have a 2018 but don’t have enough miles to comment on durability. But I know someone who put 40,000 miles on a 2018 (Uber driver) in the hellish heat of Phoenix, did lots of fast charging and the battery is at 97% state of health. I’m in Florida which is pretty darn hot too, but the passive cooling works. Haven’t been able to get it to the red yet.

​@@Hogtown1986 Well keep us posted, older leafs ran into issues around 30K so it's only really anecdotal evidence but the more reports you get the more accurate it is. Just make sure you post your issues on car-complaints or another site if you have issues.

The original Leaf had NO cooling so the batteries overheated & dropped to 70% capacity in hot states (Arizona, Southern California). It was permanent damage, so the owners demanded a buyback of their cars .

Adrayven 240 mile range actually. The partial premium goes 20 miles further than the base model.

The model Y is getting revealed tomorrow. Who knows? Maybe that'll be more up your alley

Stop comparing a luxury class tesla with the leaf and posting negativity on a leaf review. Bashing other evs does nothing to help promote ev adoption . The leaf is a hatchback and it has nissan dealers all over the country. I have only one tesla service center in my city of 759,000 people but we have 5 nissan deaalers that can take care of the leaf witch is more reliable and cheaper to repair than a tesla if you need parts. Tesla cant keep up with there service.

Model 3 is Rwd is kind of negative.

Ouch...

Sadly we can't change it after the fact :(

lessdeth69 model 3 is a luxury car leaf is not.

Shankhadeep Shome i dont care what the model 3 has or can do. Stop comparing it to the leaf , bolt kona. Eniro. It is a luxury car. You should be able to understand that. Just like a corolla is not in the same class as a toyota Avalon. If you want a tesla get it and leave everyone else alone.

And its used value (if bought and not leased). An "inexpensive" car can get expensive very quickly.

Andrew Le hey man don’t be sad, that’s the the better car Imo, the kona is great but the e-Niro pips it with a better more practical size. Right at the minute I’d say it’s one of the best EV’s out there.

No, I believe it was Tesla that did so.

Nice looking? Really? The presenter can hardly fit in the rear seat, I thought that was kind of funny. Then he comments on the roomy luggage area. I guess I have a different opinion on "roomy".

timmyunderscore777 becoz no body in the right sate of mind would buy this junk over Tesla M3, this video may be sponsored by Nissan, and y would they compare it with Tesla, u know the result..

This imbecile is totally clueless and seems to be anti Tesla.

It's not anywhere near the same price after federal tax credits, dealer discounts, cost of options, cost of maintenance and repairs etc.. There is more to price than just MSRP.

@@UTUBESUCK666 Not at all, in fact we have a Model 3 on order. It's just that at an effective base price of $19990 this is not in the same category.

It does not. I think it was even mentioned.

Wow, 50 miles! For a vehicle that costs over $40,000.00 what a bargain! So granny goes to Walmart, a close-by grocery store then home and time to plug in old reliable.

Still half the credit available, plus regional incentives.

Justin Waters Kona EV seems to be great, but you can’t get it unless you’re in California. The Leaf has compromises, but they are available everywhere, Nissan is willing to deal, and they’re solidly reliable.

I can check and verify that at -15*C 2013-2017 Leaf does not activate heat pump. Though I do know that gen2 leaf has different heat pump system.

Just get the European version

Ask TeslaBjorn channel. He does all kinds of tests in Europe and the USA.

Was that why the 1st gen lead saw so much more battery degradation than other EVs?

@@rkalla Yes.

@@Mgoblagulkablong No! It was the battery chemistry. The Lizard pack in 2014 solved this. No need for TMS, with hundreds of thousands of data point proves that.

I think it uses fans to cool battery, not passive. Maybe I’m wrong.

A well sorted cooling system can do just fine without compromising durability, so long as the over-all design is well thought out, the right materials and there is enough air passing through the system. Poor durability is usually attributed to other issues like chemical composition or poorly controlled charge cycles.

Model 3 comes with a robust charging network.

Shankhadeep Shome look at electrifyamerica.com. Tesla only had 6 to start out . In 2012.ea has 450 locations in just over a year not to mention all the ev go and chargepoint locations.

If you think the Leaf's interior is cheap have a look at the Chevy Bolt...or try and sit comfortably in one!