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What do the mean they shit canned the 2019? 🤔

@@chaostheory2219 They chucked it in the bin. Threw it out. Put it out to pasture. 86-ed it. In other words, they cancelled it. lol

@@storejoshuprite It's still produced in China as the Buick "Velite 6". They discontinued production in the US.

​​​@@storejoshuprite They abandoned the model somewhere after 2019. I did buy a 2019, which are a bit rare. I love it.

That's interesting. My 2013 can charge on 240V stock. It has a slow charge rate of about 3kw though. I wish it could use CCS.

Used 1-2 tanks of gas per year on our Gen1 (2012) and Gen2 (2018).

It's really going to come down to ones own driving habits. I just bought a used Volt, but I wasn't really comparing it to another used hybrid but to the Chevy Cruze. I've had and loved a Cruze for many years, so when it came time to replace my wife's car a newer Cruze was the first thing I looked at at. The Volt though is a very similar size, similar interior, etc but has that 30-50 miles of all-EV range with a similar gas-only efficiency as the Cruze and a good deal of additional technology features available. With our relatively low daily driving needs, it seemed like a perfect choice. Sure we might have been able to find something with a higher fuel efficiency, but being able to avoid gas entirely for most trips is even better for us.

+1

Model 3?

You’re wasting a lot of money with all those frequent trade-ins (buy for $30,000 and sell for ~15,000). You barely get any miles on the car. You’d save more money if you kept the car until it reached 200,000 miles .

@@electrictroy2010 that and the fact the volt has horrible resale value. I was in a market for a used one and shocked how low and long they would list for....

Is the volt a good buy used? I have found a ton of 2017 LT models for around 17k with about 20-30k miles on them. It’s either that or a Prius priced around 17-20k max used. Which is best ?? I commute to work about 80mi each way daily and need the best bang for the buck.

@@toddnewman2680 160mi a day commute (that's >50k a year!) will likely favor the Prius much better gas mileage (52 vs 37 which require premium on Volt), unless maybe you can re-charge for free and very low gas prices. You would have to run numbers... the prius are $$ used even though retail for much less, which hurts right now but will help when it comes to resale down the line. You see prius with ridiculous mileages still sell for a lot vs other cars. If you plan to put many 100k of miles that may be best options. The volt drives a lot better though (which I almost bought, but ended with prius for kid first car). You need to look at maintenance cost too. Ultimately long term an all electric car with the range you need might be the cheapest options for you as kw can be 1/3 the cost of gas, and many work places offer free charging. Maintenance cost are a lot lower than hybrid which have a full engine (just did a bunch of work on my prius) + battery/electronics. Might want to check total ownership of a Tesla 3/leaf/etc.. with EV rebates in your area.

Me, too

@Steve Jones Just tires and a windshield due to a rock chip. Other than that it's been flawless. It still makes me happy everyday. Just hit 120k. Electric range has stayed at 40mi give or take a few.

Silver Topaz 2013 32-50 Electric Miles based on outside temps. 1 oil change at 50K Odometer 2 front tires changes Wiperblades changed From 80 mpg to 122mpg

Same! And, hey, its fit and finish is super, no comparison to a Tesla.

Still loving my 2017 Volt, pretty sure I'm going to drive it till it dies.

On car forums, most Volt users brag about 200+ MPG thinking they can fool everybody with the artificially-inflated number .

yeah it need to include electric $/Kw and gas price as well. One neat thing on the used '14 prius I bought is that you can set what the gas price is, and what your other car mpg is, so after every trip it tells you mpg, how much it cost, how much it saved you vs your truck for example. Interesting to see what it cost to return that DVD in town for example...

@@alaind831 sorry ... can you explain what you mean regarding : "... what it cost to return that DVD in town .. " ???

@@greenergenes I mean what it cost to do small errands around town (I picked DVD return since redbox rentals are 24h so you tend to have to return next day or get charged again, but your drive alone could be more if that's the only thing you were gonna do...)

Oops.

MPGe isn't any better since they are still displaying a combined rating on both energy sources. The optimum would be miles/kWh when in EV and MPG when in hybrid mode.

@@AAutoBuyersGuide The energy display also displays your MPGe specifically for EV only operation, and lists the kWh consumed and miles driven if you prefer that metric. It also presents your MPG for gas operation only on the right of the energy screen since your last charge. I agree that having lifetime figures for each of these sources individually would be nice, but the Volt already presents what some consider to be an overwhelming amount of information both in the "gauge cluster" display and in the infotainment energy screen. In any case, all I'm saying is that the Volt does offer a measure of combined efficiency rating, which is what you said you preferred in the Pacifica.

Sounds right. EV-1 was really "EV first" being on the road over 2 decades ago--before Tesla or anyone else as far as I know. So what happened? alliejr may have put their finger on it.

jOe R Electric cars go back to the early 1900s. To be clear, I said GM was first with a production serial hybrid, not first with an EV.

@@alliejr yes EVs were even before ICE if I recall my history. But I was referring to the last couple-few decades ago and by a major manufacturer. Heck, I recall a well-known person and others converting their ICEs to run on electric well over 2 decades ago.

No matter what GM does, they are still going to be saddled with their UAW contract. They would be better off liquidating the company and returning capital to stockholders. They can't compete in the long run. Both the union and management are intent on looting the company until it collapses.

I don't know of any long range plug in hybrids that have a pure below-the floor battery design such as that used in the Bolt, Tesla, and other pure BEVs. The Ioniq, Prime, Niro, upcoming Escape PHEV and others are all roughly half the size of the Volt's battery, have underpowered electric motors, and put the battery beneath the floor/in the trunk. The Prime actually puts in in the trunk and sacrifices a seat. The Clarity comes the closest, with some of the battery beneath the floor and most beneath the trunk and back seat, but it can do that because it's over a foot longer than the Volt and has room to spare without a noticeably smaller cargo area. In a compact platform like the Volt, they needed room for other drivetrain components. Not saying you're wrong to criticize the Volt for this, but if you want a long range, compact electric vehicle that also runs on gas, you need to compromise somewhere.

Love this car2019 Chevrolet volt best car

@@johnmichalenko2727 Both my 2012 and 2019 are excellent. The first gen handles better than the lighter 2019. Both are the best cars i have owned. Love the range and power of the 2019.

(Beats all the cars love the volt I would like 2021

@@12voltvids like to new SUV

@@johnmichalenko2727 Perhaps gm will come to their sences and bring back a vehicle with the voltec drive train.

We have bought an Opel Ampera (Volt spelled European accent) showing 0.4 l / 100 km (588 MPG) lifetime value, it was 6 years old, ran 62000 miles. It means that the combustion engine was running below 10% of time (distance!), so it's almost new (calculating with 6 l / 100 km = 39 MPG). You should not buy a new one for long years, I think.

Now that you've had your Bolt for a while, how do you like it compared to the Volt?

@@kevinsmith6000 I love the Bolt's range and the fact that I don't have to charge too much vs the VOLT where I had to charge every other day to stay on the electric side so verdict is BOLT but I do miss the sporty body of the VOLT. (RIP)

Most of the other plugins dont have enough electric range for it to matter.

How do you go about switching it to gas-only use on the highway?

@@99shadows66 Switching to "Hold" mode turns on the gas generator when when going above a certain speed. Electric is more efficient at slower, in-town speeds. The ICE is more efficient at highway speeds.

@@gwibz7896 thanks for the response.

Move to the South :) I did the same thing, but I rarely use gas in town. Even in the winter. Remote start while plugged in helps.

@@ch4.hayabusa He values his Canadian advantages like healthcare, especially around retirement. One has to be really rich to move fom Canada to the USA and disconsider the danger for a health emergency for ones pocket.

I had a 2014 loved it. When they announced they were going to quit making them, i went out and got a 2019 while they were still available. (BTW, they still make it in China as a Buick, so if gas prices shoot back up to $5/gal or so they could start importing them).

No! We've driven our 2017 Volt from PA to and through New Brunswick Canada, and US coast to coast, including lots of very high-mileage days in remote areas with *no* charging opportunities and not enough time to wait for the recharge if there were any. Couldn't have done it in a BEV. Yet once at a destination for a while, we're on electric almost exclusively. Good cargo space and very comfortable too.

*supercharger network*

@@davidhood9712 The preferred way to travel from Dallas to San Antonio is on hwy 281. Faster, safer, Tesla can't do it. Last year I took a tour from Dallas to Taos, wandered up to Durango, then to Estes Park without getting on the interstate. Beautiful drive. Teslas cant do that. Tesla is still a city car with highway capability. Not for people who enjoy the outdoors.

Please don’t lie. Highway 281 is a full 40 minutes SLOWER than I-35. Plus parts of 281 are Nondivided which increases risk of headon collisions (making it LESS safe) .

electrictroy2010 perhaps you haven’t driven through Austin traffic, I’ve seen many wrecks on I-35, mostly from tailgating in traffic. I’ve seen only one wreck on 281 that I remember. A motorcycle fell in the rain. 281 is way less stressful and usually faster.

What?

The Prius doesn't look that great either

It should last a long time. Sparkie on Facebook page is up to 452,000 miles last fall.

The average American is way too dumb to understand the advantages of this car.

@@VoltLover00, you said it, that is really it; well, that and “automobile racism” against American auto-makers.

Sovereignty, anyone…??

More have not been sold because GM does not have a good reputation when introducing new tech. Consider the 4-6-8 engine and the thin block diesel engine.

if you're looking at commuting only car, wouldn't a leaf with 150mi range be better solution ? better EV efficiency and they only cost $15+k after $14k rebates last month... long enough to do most commute round trip and many can charge at work for free.

It's a commuter car that can also be used for out-of-town trips. :)

Racer D liar. Look up maintenance mode.

How's the transition from electric mode to gas mode?

That doesn't sound very efficient. What a waste of fuel. Just throw some stabilizer in there and it should be good for two years.

Nodak81: We're talking about less than 10 gallons of fuel a year, and it's not being wasted--it is used to propel the car. 2 years isn't an option. The car will not allow you to keep fuel older than a year.

@@nodak81 Why do you think it's wasted?

@@nodak81 Not a waste really, but just the same I only carry about 2 gal in the pressurized tank as a backup, until I need to fill it for an out-of-town trip.

I caught that too. 1Q2019 still gets full tax credit.

It isn't clear if he is referring to a GM industry tax credit or an individual taxpayer credit.

Maybe at the time they were filming, sales were still trending at a rate that put them over the line by 1/1.

@@joeneedstosleep Sales put them over 200K in November. But the full credit applies till the end of the next quarter after you hit 200K (March 31rst for GM). After that the credit is cut in half for two quarters. And the halved again for two quarters before going to zero.

@@erikstephens34 Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up!

I'll be honest, I dont have a problem with that unit, at all. Compared to the G1 Volt, and latest prius prime, the unit in the clarity is generations ahead. Maybe it's a placebo, but I find the GUI reskin makes the unit feel snappier

@@HewroPreez I had the older infotainment system on my 2017 Accord and I hated everything about it. Have the new and improved version on our 2019 Odyssey and it is exponentially better.

@@HewroPreez Did they update the GUI in the clarity system? Is this a new update through the dealership?

David Guerriero apparently you can buy a spare for them, gen 1 and 2, but there is no storage space for it.

probably also has to do with people not buying small car as much - Ford stopped making cars in the US, leaving that marker to Asian manufacturer. The will likely focus on larger vehicle with better profit margin.

They killed off it's 1st cousin the Cuze - small cars are not in demand.

Agree with your comment 100%. MPGe figure is easy to find.

I wish they used Nissan's mile/kW/hr scale.or Tesla's kW/mile. Either makes more real world sense. I just watch the miles since charge and kW/hr consumed numbers and do the math in my head.

On the internet most Volt users brag about 200+ MPG thinking they can fool everybody with the artificially-inflated number .

electrictroy2010 I often drive 1000 miles or more w/o using the engine. MPGe is a pretty useless number since it costs so much less than gasoline and generating it releases so much less CO2.

MPGe compares the electricity with the energy in a gallon of gasoline. I prefer to think of it as comparing the mileage obtained by by buying a gallon of gas vs spending that same money on electricity. For my Volt it's about 125mpg.

They are still making them

Except how often do normal people actually use that 0-60?

@@yanDeriction Driving electric the torque is absolutely addicting :) My '18 Volt has (unbelievably) more torque than my former Subaru STi 300hp turbo beast, no AWD though. Getting on the freeway, pulling out in traffic, it's effortless. You just push and go. You should try it.

There are others like Prius PHEV and BMW i8 but Volt seems to be the most thoroughly designed for that. Volt seems also to be the only one that works in EV-only at freezing temperatures. Others can be considered "occasional EVs" - EV mode might not be usable or even possible in most common driving scenarios.

Wrong

While it's darn near impossible to figure out exactly where the cost equivalency comes in, your statement isn't any more accurate than Alex's. Generally, the Prime will be about 25% cheaper to operate if your daily commute is 25 miles or less. Between 25 and 75 miles, the Volt will probably be cheaper to operate, unless you live in high electric cost areas like Massachussetts (21 cents or more per kWh) Hawaii (I think around 30 cents last time I checked). In those states, the Volt is actually cheaper to operate on gas than electric at current low gas prices. I own a Volt, and I love it. But my daily commute is 28 miles and it'd probably be slightly cheaper in a Prime. I don't regret the Volt as I FAR prefer its looks, and it's a much more engaging and comfortable car to drive.

It depends on the cost of gasoline and electricity. At the time we created this video at my electric rates and gas costs the Prime is cheaper to operate in almost every driving situation unless electricity can be had for free. As always, your mileage will vary.

@@AAutoBuyersGuide I think it depends upon an individual's usual commuting distance, so it's really impossible to give a blanket answer. Matt Jones' answer seems most accurate to me.

Alex on Autos please explain what situation you are referring too. Less than 100 miles less than 200 miles is more efficient. Are you basing on total range efficient?

​@@phillips9986 Edit: I revisited my more pessimistic take before to acknowledge reality: Up until recently, only California fell into this category, due to the ridiculous electrical rates in California. I just ran the numbers, factoring in all the stuff for multiple driving distances. I have to admit that, given today's cheap gas prices (nearly everywhere), the PRIME wins the notable majority of driven distances in the vast majority of states. If gas goes back to where it was up until 2016 or so, I believe that generally reverses. Now, when you factor in the smaller real-world cargo volume, vastly slower acceleration, poorer handling, noisier cabin, and HORRIBLE styling...I'm still happy to own a Volt (plus, much of our juice comes from my wife's employer, so the big battery wins for us). The EV driving experience is also a notable benefit. I generally think I have to agree with Alex's overall assessment. I could never get over the Clarity's styling, but beyond that, it's a great car. Lesser known is that GM had a LOT to do with that entire system. My cousin used to run the Transmission calibration group at Honda and said the Volt was near to perfect...no reason to reinvent the wheel. I believe an optimized plug-in is still a great solution for overall efficiency...arguably better than full EVs. I think the Volt likely isn't the peak of that (they chose to be mostly electric because that is very appealing). The Prius/Ioniq etc. do very well at reducing the system costs (by using the engine at high loads), increasing gas MPG, and lowering battery purchased while still covering a useful number of miles for every day use. When looking at the overall energy consumed, they are very comparable to the Volt (I've run those numbers too). Looking at the larger footprint, including manufacturing, they beat pure EVs to probably something like 200k miles. Buying 70-100 kWh of battery to use occasionally is a HUGE amount of energy (and mass to carry around). It looks like everyone is going to full EV with quick charging, but I think passing over PHEVs is chasing a religious philosophy, rather than the actual engineering optimum.

"super-capacitors" are NOT battery replacement dude, they have very bad power density - only excel at fast storage/decharge - so buffer to slow batteries. Great if you want to build Tesla next super car with 1.9sec 0-60 acceleration (batteries can't produce that much amp so fast)

With the high speed limits in texas, you'll likely get below the EPA economy in Honda's hybrids due to their overall design. A pure EV is a good option as would a Toyota or Hyundai/Kia hybrid.

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thanks for your reply Alex.