Is the infotainment system good enough, or does it need improvement?

"competing models" yeah all those other EVs with 300+ miles range

I still think it's a really beautiful car. Especially the facelift.

I'm always surprised when reviews talk about styling as if it's fact. The reviewer says the design is dated and a big portion of the review is dedicated to that. I happen to think it's still a cool and relevant design.

You say dated, I say timeless. :-)

Dated? Hmmm who else is doing the software and touchscreen like Tesla?

Sorry but this is a TIMELESS design and an iconic one at that for Tesla. Its also a highly functional one for ultra low drag in the wind.

Let's put a 40in TV in the car. Seems like 17in is dated even though everyone has an 8in.

_"Tesla Model S is beginning to look awfully plain."_ Porsche would have to change the design of its 911 because it is starting to date...

Sorry but Tesla is already years ahead of its competition. They already update what's important in their cars over the air unlike every other car manufacturer out there. It doesn't need a refresh every 2 years because people do not need a new car every 2 years. Also, reviews should not be based on personal opinions about design. As they say, beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. You might be used to seeing a new car every couple of days, but most of us aren't. Just because the Germans refresh their cars by adding extra trim every couple of years, that doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do.

Nothing about this car is dated. I work in the automotive industry and drive many cars daily. Every time I get my hands on a Tesla I think of how futuristic it still feels compared to other cars.

Thank god Tesla doesn't follow other automakers and modify their designs every four years. I'm over all the fake go-fast plastic on Audis and BMWs. Or the New Jersey Nightclub style of MB interiors. I will agree that this particular woodgrain shown is not great. Piano black or lighter woodgrain is much better. Tesla design is timeless and the car itself is lightyears beyond what any other automaker is doing right now.

The interior/dashboard doesnt look dated at all. What, do you want some flashy chrome, or change for the sake of change? It looks good and serves its function.

It's in a category by itself. Greatest car ever made.

The screen looks dated? Excuse me who else has a screen that big in any car besides a Tesla?

I actually think the style looks great! I do not see a need to change something that is already great. The interior could use an update though.

This car still looks amazing. I think tweaks here and there over the future would be fine, but don't fix what ain't broke. The Model S was and is a groundbreaking car with a sleek and defined look, no point messing with that.

You think the giant touchscreen seems dated? what do you recommend they replace it with? I can't really think of something myself that's better - the resolution looks great and it doesn't seem like there's much bezel so I can't see much room to improve

Mercedes EQC has a dated interior from start. Wait eight years and do a review of that.

IMHO, the Model S is still one of the sexiest sedans out there. If it was cheaper I would‘ve opted for a Model S instead of a Model 3. But I‘m happy neverthereless.

I love the Model S the way it is. The design was so well conceived from the beginning that it doesn't need a refresh.

the only thing that look dated is, sorry to say, you. but also sorry to say, you can't get a refresh.

I think even today is still one of the most beautiful cars on the road

Did he just say “dated”?? Dated where? The model s, x, and 3 and extremely beautiful and iconic cars. Not sure what he’s talking about..

It's amazing this late in 2019 still to see so many latest 2019 and 2020 Model S videos in KZfaq. It's not because these reviewers/owners are late to the game, but to note that this Tesla Model S is still an awesome car that attracts so many views and that people are still buying and sharing their experiences, including your review Mr. "R" So... it is not dated! Just as many comments in here, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Model S is still by far the best looking car anywhere you are on the road, stop lights, parking lot. If you own and drive a Model S, you still do get heads turn and people coming closer to look at it. The exterior of the Model S is as handsome, modern yet clean design; the interior still is minimalist yet comes with full function. Who needs those extra pockets, cup holders and, file cabinets in a car? The infotainment, it can display miles of streets and highways around you on the map with that 17" screen, name one 'competitor' who can actually do that? Lastly, the range, in any of the Model S is far greater than others. With the latest numbers of Tesla Superchargers, that anxiety is pretty much far forgotten. I have a white Model S just like the tester in this video, and am proud to be its owner. I often find excuses just to go out to the garage to take another peek at it, it never once let me down.

please Tesla, do not change the touch screen nor remove the gauge cluster on the S and X so it matches the 3 when both get refreshed on 2020

I still want one! Not dated. Timeless

I hope they don't update the interior because it doesn't need updating. If they do, it's only going to get worse since they'll eliminate more things so it becomes more basic like the Model 3 interior.

My car gets software updates via WiFi ugh so outdated

quote: "But in a segment that prioritizes freshness, visually, the Model S is anything but." Have you *looked* at those other refreshed cars competing in this segment? Most of them are from ultra-stodgy German companies, and they have all the style and character of a cinder block. quote: "This touch screen that was once hyper-futuristic back in 2012? Well, now it's starting to look a little bit dated." Oh?? Dated compared to what, I wonder? Is somebody else shipping cars now with a bigger screen? Let me know, because I haven't seen that.

I hate to say this but Teslas are like smartphones. The fanciest combustion engine cars are like BlackBerry, they're nice, but they aren't smartphones... And y'all remember what happened to blackberry when it didn't get with the program.

For you the design is dated, the board is dated. Dated compared to what? To the old model of the same car? Let's change things just to change them

I don't agree about that screen being dated So what's a newer thing to do or replace it with?

This car is beautiful... is painful we in Africa can't get it... yet this is the best car in the world for Me

This is still one of the prettiest cars on the market. Literally no need to change it's shape.

This car is beautiful. Its not a dated design. it still looks like it was released today. No other manufacturer has such a beautiful design philosophy. Teslas simply look beautiful. They are well proportioned and have subtle character lines to distinguish themselves by looking unique. Only the Germans do such design (by keeping it simple but timeless for instance the VW and Audi cars). Tesla as a brand have imbibed the best qualities of the European auto industry, Asian Industry and Silicon Valley. Their total vertical integration is similar to Toyota. Their design philosophy is similar to German VW group and their constant iterative updates is a trait of them being a computer on wheels. This is an aspirational car for many. Truly revolutionary product.

The benefit of the increase in range is super important for longer road trips. Instead of stopping to charge 3-4 times to get to your destination, you might only need to charge once.

I specifically got the raven as I feel this will be the last refresh before the next complete overhaul of the model. There are rumors that it will be a lot like model 3 and I don’t care for it. I love the way the model S is now.

Honestly, this is my favorite model from Tesla by far, it’s simple yet beautiful. I wish I could afford one of these.

The Model S launched as rear wheel drive, they then released dual motor version, then a 90 kWh pack upgrade, then new self driving technology developed by themselves and a 100 kWh battery, then a self driving chip developed by them instead of nVidia and now a new motor, inverter and cooling upgrades for both the battery pack and the motors. From how you describe it an outsider would think they barely touched the car in the meantime and I didn't even mention the endless software updates and minor tweaks.

Great job. It is one of the fair and balanced tesla review i have found in youtube. Many traditional car reviewers i think, struggle to have balanced view on tesla because they are so used to reviewing traditional ICE vehicles and Teslas are different on so many different levels.👍

Amazing how reviewers keep saying its dated but yet the Model S is STILL better than anything else. People who get in mine are blown away about how futuristic and great performance it has. Does any other manufacturer have anything close? Not hardly.

Great review! Can't wait for the refresh coming soon.

I disagree with the car looking dated. I love the look of this car, inside and out. I actually don't like the "minimalist" look of the model 3's interior, and I really don't like the look of the front and rear of the Model 3. I'm buying a Model S long range, and your video helped me to make up my mind. Thanks for an informative video.

Competition...what competition? XD

After getting past all the "dated" comments that have triggered so many, I found the rest of this piece very good and informative. I really appreciate the observations on the new smart suspension system, which I've been very curious about, but I've hardly seen any coverage of it anywhere else.

here i am wondering if you could open the roof, since i wasn't able to find that option in the showroom

It's an ignorant reviewer who confuses styling with design. It's the same kind of ignorance that believes upgrading a radio that's integrated with an ECM and a tablet is an advacement in automotive technology. If "freshness" is important, the reviewer should shave, get plastic surgery and a new wardrobe.

The first half of this review has been brought to you by CNBC,...

What is the range when fully loaded?

I am planning to buy 2020 model S but I am worried the body style gets old soon. Does anyone know if Tesla redesigns the model S soon? great video.

The car doesn't look that bad at all. Appreciate the engineering and look and stop looking for things to complain about.

Such a beautiful car. I am still in love with my 2016 S...

Doesn’t continually changing and updating an interior and exterior with new plastic moulded parts and trashing the old ones go against the entire eco friendly movement with Tesla? The car interior and exterior should stay the same and utopian so the design and mould costs go to zero over time due to amortization and become fully recyclable. If the eco friendly model means anything we should forget about needing new fake looks every year.

Very detailed with the ride experience and some of the functionality. Excellent.

Do you think you can drive from Los Angeleno to Las Vegas in one full charge?

It looks gorgeous. It doesn't need any refreshes or updates. Very few car makers get the proportions and the lines right. Tesla is one of them.

If Tesla "needs a refresh", then so does BMW, Porsche, etc. They've looked the same for 20+ years. IMO, the more you needlessly change the appearance, the faster that appearance looks outdated.

Tesla great car, just don’t get involved in a fender bender because it may take 6 months and probably $15k to fix it.

apart from putting the screen horizontally I don't see what you would change?

IS that enough to distance itself from the competition?!?!?!! WHAT COMPETITION?!

Chasing perfection is always a driving force for man. I understand the updates the presenter pointed out for the Tesla Model S. This is my thoughts on the car based on my experience as an owner. I purchased a 2017 Tesla Model S 60D (218 mile range) in January 2017 which included unlimited free supercharging. Options purchased were dual motor AWD, air suspension, metal roof, upgraded seats, white paint. Several months later I paid $2,000 discounted price for software to unlock battery pack to full 75kWh (259 mile range) and uncorked 0-60mph acceleration from 5.4 to 4.5 seconds. I have driven over 48,000 miles with my biggest expense being replacing the Goodyear tires with Michelin tires a couple of months ago. I love this car, it’s the best I’ve ever owned in 47 years of driving. Now I look at the 2020 Tesla Model S Long Range Plus. It’s dual motor AWD with a 100kWh (391 mile range with 0-60mph acceleration in 3.7 seconds) and all of the options I paid for in my car included in the price. Also included are HEPA filtration and the cold weather package (no metal roof option). Now for the most impressive statistic of all, the price. The price including tax and license for the 2020 Tesla Model S Long Range Plus is only about $1,000 more then what I paid for my 2017 Tesla S 75D (Note: I did get the $7,500 tax credit for my 2017 which is no longer available). For that you get better range, better acceleration, more options then a similar car just three years earlier. Personally, I think Tesla has made a good choice in keeping the body style for a few more years while they introduce new EV models to ween the public off of ICE cars. Money well spent!

no talk of the performance numbers with the new motors?

Great review. Despite the car design looking on the old side, the technology is not. I would buy this car without hesitation. Still the original, ground breaking EV on the market.

0:49 What competition?

Nothing in this video about pricing. Has that been released yet, and when is the release date for the vehicle? Is it ready for purchase now?

Agree with everything in this review. It almost seems like a final sendoff to the original Model S architecture. It’s been an amazing EV and it’s time for the next step forwards.

Porsche design is 40+ years old, because they got it right the 1st time. Just like Tesla

The number of fingerprints on the touch panel is huge.

Bit of a lazy review trying to pre-empt some mythical refresh, just to say, see I told you so. Still looks gorgeous. Out accelerates anything in its class. Touchscreen is simple, functional and beautiful. Autopilot getting better every week. If this car was built by NASA, everyone would be waxing lyrical but ICE manufacturers are running scared.

It's sad that this "dated" interior looks the best compared to newer Tesla car models.

Which competition?

Honestly, I think the lack of visual exterior updates is what makes the Model S unique. It's an iconic look, and instantly recognizable as a Tesla.

We bought an S model in 2015 and just ordered a new one because no other sports sedan beats the Tesla Model S when you consider price, style, performance, maintenance cost and economics. 370 miles on one charge and no gas cost?! Unbeatable!!

I like that they focus resources on substance instead of style. It looks good and that's good enough for me. (just too darn big in my case) Torque steer would bother me but they might be able to mitigate that over the air too.

Jeez, the Tesla fan boys are out in force today. Be open to criticism, he is just pointing out the lack of update to the cars exterior and interior. And stop bragging about the touchscreen y’all say no one can compete with... the Prius got pretty much the same thing and the other luxury brands just like having a landscape type screen connecting it to the screen behind the steering wheel, chill 😂.

The Model S still has nicer lines than newer bmws or benzs... oh yea and it’s a way better car

As Someone who often travels all the way from Porto to Lisbon, and Porto to Algarve the 375 mile range, is more than an welcome addition , and it's one of the main reasons why I looked at Tesla over the upcoming Audi GT tron

The person to figure out a solution to all those smudges on the touchscreen should be awarded a Nobel prize.

(0:28) - "...rhinoplasty on the nose"? That's a bit like saying "I had some hip surgery on my hip." Oh well, if tautology is your thing then who am I to disparage you? >

Why do people complain about cars being plain if they dont redesign?? If its already a clean good looking car than there is no need to change the it.

I'm torn between putting "Like" for nice video shots of Tesla or "Dislike" for subjective complaints about "dated" design.

I think this car needs a new interior (horizontally oriented screen would be really nice, because it offers a better layout for content and all that stuff), new rear lights (because current ones simply don't match the front end and those single LEDs there just look cheap), new tech (heads-up display is a must-have IMO - try it once and you will never want a car without it; and 360 cameras system - maybe not as fancy as new BMWs have but at least cheap yet useful Infinity kinda thing), leave the front end untouched and please leave an option for carbon fiber interior elements for non-performance models - and there you have it - a perfect car

This car, built first 7 years ago and had even back then a 17” touchscreen. This is so far into the future, it is so forward thinking from Tesla and this guy says the design is dated? The exterior of the model S after the facelift in my opinion looks better than a mclaren or lambo. The futuristic styling in the headlights for example is beautiful. And if you move to the interior it gets better. A 17” touchscreen that is as good as an iPad? Who the hell can say that is dated? Not a single car manufacturer after the 7 years this car has been out has managed to make a screen even close. Case closed

am just saying Tesla is a car that keep money in your pocket... is the the most important factor to me .what i look like working for a car? keep it simple and reliable and maintenance free is priceless...

Very fair and respectable review.

“A segment that prioritises freshness” - yeah, because traditional automakers have got *nothing* new to sell. Some more bling, an extra knob here, a kilowatt more there. Yawn - give me the 2012 styled Model S any day - the competition *still* can’t match it after all this time. Now that’s stale.

TLDR: 90% of the Review: "iT's dAtEd" 10% : Other stuff Too much Whining

The problem with updating the body is that it is extremely difficult to get another design that is as aerodynamic when you are already near peak efficiency. Any more tweaks will probably come at the cost of efficiency in the future. So refresh not likely to happen every beyond minor changes.

Some designs are timeless.......

Tesla: Hey we came up with this cool new auto air leveling system, you go into a corner and it puts more pressure to that bag to keep you level and reduce body roll. Truck driver: You mean like my road tractor did in the early 90s and is a standard requirement after 1993? Tesla: No we invented it!

It would be nice to see the game Frogger in the games of Model 3 and Model S.

I love the way it looks!

Isnt a refresh coming soon for the model s?

Let's not complain about that styling of this beautiful car. There are not that many model S's on the road so whenever I see one I'm in awe as well as others taking a look at it.

I'm no EV fan but, if ain't broke why fix it? The Tesla Model S looks fine

The only reason the touchscreen looks dated is because the Model 3 exists. People I know who have owned both the S and the 3 like the landscape oriented screen of the 3 better. This is why an interior update similar to the 3 is in the works, according to leaks.

Lol I love how this video is already outdated.

Did you drive this in Indiana by any chance?

Best looking sedan at any price.