luv my 2015 prospector power wagon. use it to tow my 25 foot toy hauler off road. Soft sand dunes and beach sand.

4WD Magazine no not really. My 122" wheelbase "shorty" F-150 FX-4 with the 5.0L and 3.73's has a better break over angle, a tighter turning circle, a better power to weight ratio, better fuel economy, better payload capacity, and similar towing capability. Mine also came with dual lockers, 34" tires, is prewired for a winch and has a steel (winch capable) bumper for about $20,000 less. The shorty is the unsung hero of the off road truck world and nobody does videos on them.

Jay Mackay your truck does not have front lockers unless installed aftermarket. Your truck also does not have better break over angles or wheel articulation Ect.. you are here watching this video because you want to buy a power wagon but unfortunately do not have the funds..

@@liberalsareinbred6383 it does have a front Torsen locker from the Raptor, installed by the dealer at the time of purchase, so it has full Ford warranty and unlike the PW it works in 4 HI. My rear locker also works in 2WD. As for breakover I have 14.5" of clearance to the frame and 122" wheelbase. You do the math. Only knowledgeable people even know they are available. Sorry but I like to see how they are marketing the PW. I would never own one. The Tremor will eat it.

@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 Any vehicle can be modified, at the dealer or elsewhere. Thats a different class of vehicle limited only by your money. Also your IFS will limit articulation which is a big reason even the Ram Rebel doesn't keep up. So again, the power wagon is the best factory built off road truck.

Got one 2 weeks ago

Ever owned one? This one sure was nice to drive.

Super cool. Thanks for the input!

Exactly. Less talking. More off-roading.

lol

darin sullivan 05-12 Power wagons are the best of both worlds. All the off road goodies with much less of the annoying nanny tech. 👍

I’m seriously considering one. How’s the truck holding up now?

You think you'll gain that much fuel mileage with that small of a gear switch?

Phillip Christensen Haha, best name I’ve heard for this truck! 😂

You could put stiffer shocks but then you loose a lot of the 4x4 capability (massively)

The pw comes with Goodyear duratrac tires which are 10ply from my research

Might not be a good question but, how’s the MPG? As bad as they say?

Born 2 Win its not as bad as I thought it would be. I’m getting around 15 combined. Can get up to 18-19 on the highway.

The Power Wagons mascot is the Honey Badger!

id argue that a diesel has more steady and reliable low end power. Since torque is your best friend crawling. Gas engines are way more forgiving at extreme angles tho

@@SimplyMagic123 but the turbo would constantly be jetting you all over. Boost is still needed. I've owned a handful of TDs and they don't drive like a gas engine when you are crawling.

When you find bottomless mud, diesels front ends sink to the frame, everytime! Dirt bike race at Wilseyville,Ca. A few years ago. Absolute snow and mud fest. Diesels stuck everywhere. Didn’t matter what brand. Ford, Dodge or Chevy. Stuck! Lighter vehicles had no trouble.

I would just get the JT Rubi over a JL.

You definitely can. Then it becomes a PLOWER WAGON

Took the leaf springs out for articulation.

Shawn Riddle Yeah and Chrysler almost destroyed an awesome company with their mismanagement. Topical though.

@@adamharris2674 .

There have been truck models where I wanted to see a diesel, but in this case I wouldn't give up its off-road performance for diesel.

@@4WDMagazine Agreed. It defeats the purpose. A better solution would be to get Ram to increase the fuel tank capacity to over 40. Like Ford has with the 48 gallon tank I think people want diesel for the satisfaction of knowing they can tow anything. The 6.4 hemi with the new 8 speed is definitely no slouch. It's got a lot of power. It'll easily tow it's rated capacity.

@Joseph Bloe I can tell you that I don't give a shit. Wait I just did

Good point. Would you consider one if it had a diesel?

@@4WDMagazine Honestly my dream truck is a Power Wagon with a Cummins in it. Generally i like Rams more than Ford but Ford seems to be the only one willing to take a risk on new markets. With the overland market getting ready to explode, a 3/4 ton off road specked truck with the range and torque of a diesel would be a perfect match. And yeah, i'd definitely be getting Cummins equipped Power wagon lol.

Let's remember this truck is designed for trails and rock crawling as in Moab...it never claimed to be a tow rig, you add that cummins and say bye bye to your flexing. If you need towing just buy a 2500 or 3500 with the cummins add a level kit some 35's an aftermarket bumper to mount winch to and you got the truck your looking for. Sounds like your not wanting to do any real off roading maybe just some backroads and the occasional mud pit. I dont see wranglers nor ford Raptors towing much if at all but hey it seems the majority know what both vehicles where built to do and the power wagon is no different....its aimed towards a specific individual.

Pretty tough to beat the Jeep on trails. The challenge I have with my Wrangler to tow capacity at 3500lbs. Seems most small trailers with a can hit 4000lbs loaded.

I do everything you just mentioned with ease everyday.

My 2014 power wagon fits through drive throughs haha, just picked up a coffee at Starbucks

George Dyer they also don't have a disconnectable swaybar system strong enough for the weight, and when disconnected that truck would flop all over the place. To nose heavy to operate without a swaybar.

Its 4k in a GD Ram that isn't a power wagon.

I agree with you on the whole winch statement....however a diesel adds way to much weight to the front end...power wagon wouldn't flex for shit then it's a trade off you have to be willing to sacrifice. If you dont tow much and heavy what's the point of having the cummins besides all the extra maintenance that comes with it and all that garbage the epa puts on the new diesel's choking them to death!

I like the way you think!

PrecisionDan/ lol would be sweet but you obviously dont own a powerwagon, one of its weaknesses is brutal fuel milage, I cant imagine SC it..

@@panthermartin7784 I've heard they get terrible milage but a power wagon for me would end up being just for fun for me so fuel economy wouldn't bother me with it

@@PrecisionDan lol u must have deep pockets I drive super frugal n that pw is still a bitch on fuel but damn i love that truck

You read my mine!

It does. Especially as a work truck for logging, oil and gas etc. where you can really use the range and torque.

4WD Magazine I would like to see Ram put a H.O. 6.7 on a Quad Cab with 6.4 bed 4x4 and call it a PowerWagon but instead of using CRAPPY Bilstein Shocks, make a contract with Carli and/or AEV . However... I’m going to say the real future Power Wagon will probably go to a beefed up TRX. Shame... fuel economy in a diesel and torque are far far superior compared to a gasoline engine. So is longevity life. The reason why consumers don’t get exactly what they want in the future is because of many variables: Customer wants and needs Designer’s ideas of what it should be; individual concept perspective CEO and Director’s personal input plays a role Money Factory Capability Education to Employees Attractiveness but not over attractive (leave room for market to continue by leaving out all best options o build a definite future) GREED Not comparing too much about the Power Wagon, I can make my own with my 5.7L Gen3

Tremor. Gorilla or Powerstroke?

I've been happy with my 16 PW but wish I'd held out to get the 8 speed. Tremor is interesting but i suspect that it may not flex the Ram does. Could b wrong, have to see...

@@bobvincent4841 no you are right. It will be fitted with larger tires and be bigger and stronger, but it will not articulate quite like the Power Wagon.

Power wagon 100%

@@bobvincent4841 Nope. Tremor is decent upgrade, but not as hardcore as the PW to maintain the towing and hauling capability.

Sounds like you've had a bad chrysler product. Was it a Ram truck?

4WD Magazine it was a JKU Jeep that was way too new to be having electrical gremlins and Check engine light coming on constantly. Our school maintains a pair of 2008 Chrysler vans. One is a paper weight with a dead transmission and he other has an electrical fault when you turn on the headlights it temporarily kills all accessory power. Dealership can’t even figure it out. Never owned a Ram but they are on all the reliability shit lists.

Hmmm I've owned ford chevy and dodge/ram and jeep! I've had more issues with GM out of all of them however one of the jeeps my wife owned was a nightmare....but I've owned 4 dodge/ram trucks and no issues really other than my own doings! Sorry to hear about your bad luck though definitely can see your point of view to an extent.

Adam Harris 2 things here Adam: 1. Jeep since 2018 has greatly improved in quality parts and construction. They are way way way better now days, Jeep’s fault in the past, NOT CHRYSLER (don’t be so Racist) 2. You never owned a Gen 3 Ram Cummins, we all that have can tell. If you ever did get that luxury, YOU WOULD SWEAR BY RAM AND CUMMINS! They are bullet proof once you swap out some parts. Best part is, there is enough knowledge online even on the 6.7 Cummins, to build your truck Bulletproof (life long truck ownership). I have a Gen 3 (my second one, 1st one lost in divorce... even Ruthless Women know they are good to keep!) and lm about to buy a 2020 6.7 Cummins and trade in my current Wife’s CHEVY CRUZ in for it! Yeah, replacing a Mid-Size Sedan for a 2nd Cummins Ram (this one will be mega cab). And it’s not about having the biggest or best... it’s about owning something you can expect won’t break down much and will last a life time (a time piece investment). Plus it’s big enough for my German Shepard and family of 4, great Fuel Mileage with an Edge Jammer Kit (tuner and CAI), you may need an additional fuel pump but they are cheap and cheap to install. My 2004.5 Gen 3 Cummins: 783 WHP 1637 WTQ 31.2 MPG in Tow Mode @75 mph 25.2 MPG in Tow Mode @90 mph.... tell me another truck or setup that you can HAUL ASS and still get GREAT FUEL ECONOMY... don’t worry, I will wait..... Oh and I beat Z07 Corvettes in a Quarter Mile Edge Jammer FASS Fuel/Water Separator Pump Aurora 4000 Turbo (peak 52 psi) Straight 5” exhaust (Cat-Back)), Magna Flow Catalytic Converter 4” Suspension Lift with Fox 3.0, piggyback Dual Fox Stabilizer Shocks, Suspension Carli SwayBar and Steering Brace BDS Extended Stabilizer Bars, Rear Stock Bumpers and Body 35” Nitto AT sitting on 17” MT’s My wife can here my truck outside for at-least 2.5 miles down the highway when I take off from my house.... I seriously need to quiet my exhaust (idle decibel in cab 78 decibels, outside at idle 100+)

Jason S I know a lot of people love ram truck and I’m glad you guys can take pride in them. I typically don’t buy newer vehicles and I took a chance on that jeep and I could tell it was going to fall apart as it aged. I certainly hope the new body style is built better. I work on cars as an auto body technician. I’ve taken apart all makes and models and Chrysler products are clearly just not put together as well as other brands (like Toyota). A Chrysler 300 bumper cover will come off with eight fasteners, a Toyota Camry has 14 fasteners holding its cover on. Endless other examples. I’ve just known too many people let down by the Chrysler minivans, Chrysler 200 cars, Chrysler 300 cars, trucks, etc etc.

and what do you drive

@@120rain4 A 1500 eco diesel , and ford 150 with ecoboost.

@@SimplyMagic123 I can show you really bad reviews on those engines as well, look up some forums.

@@120rain4 i dont doubt it, personally i would want the cummins but the sad fact i can (and did) buy 2 half tons almost new for the same price as a used cummins. But i still stand by my statement of the new age hemi is a POS JOKE

@@SimplyMagic123 I'm on my third truck with a hemi, currently a power wagon and they have all been good to me. Have you ever had a hemi powered truck I bet not you are just talking out your ass.

I noticed that too! He looks like my wife when we drive up Mountain roads with a sheer cliff on one side. 😆

I mean that's literally every truck ever with a V8 though. Hoping Ford is on to something. Can't wait to see numbers on their hybrid 5.0.

Mine is getting about 12mpg which is what my 03 gmc 1500 with the 6.0 gets. Honestly you don't buy it for the mpg, you buy it for offroading. You want mpg get a diesel and keep it off the dirt lol

Just not for you. But it's still a great truck with lots of utility. Seems like you should wait for the 2 door new Bronco.

@@sh0cktim3 Thanks but I'm a Dodge Man not a Ford Man. I still got My 95 Dodge 4x4 2 dr. Still runs great but always wanted a Hemi.

Its less than an inch longer than the Gladiator as well as only slightly wider. With a much bigger payload.

Ford Ranger is a mid-size pick-up - definitely better on tight trails - 42' turning diameter vs 48'.

My wife has a 2018 Ram 2500 Crewcab Tradesman 4wd 6.7L Cummins, 3.42 ratio. I drive a 2016 Ram 1500 Quadcab Tradesman 4wd 3.0 Ecodiesel, 3.92 ratio. Also have a project vehicle '96 Jeep ZJ 3.73 ratio, and a '03 Ford Explorer 4wd 4.0 3.73 ratio. Each vehicle has situations that it is superior to the others. We did own a '85 Ford Ranger 4wd longbed. And I sometimes drive Rangers on my job. The Explorer seems more fun and practical than any of the Rangers that I have driven. Has a better ride and traction too!

It's a better truck for towing for sure.

Just as fast as the new 7.3 gas!

Do you own the 6.4 hemi in the ram 2500 I've owned two now and they are far from slow....definitely not a race truck but let's be real here it's a truck designed for it's off road capability why in the world would you need a fast truck for trails and rock crawling? Please tell me your not one of those guys who buys a diesel and mods the living shit out of it and puts 24" rims on it with rubberband tires making it good at one thing only and that's looking like a life sized hotwheel!!!!

Haha y’all funny I beat that truck in a 5.4 not a 5.0 not a 3.5 a 5.4

You did watch the whole video though secretly wishing you could have one, right? Don’t worry, we’ll keep it zipped. Hahaha

trail boss is shit on the trail compared to the PW.

Leonard Rice “Fiat scrap” coming from a guy promoting a Mexican built GM truck. That’s laughable! I’m not a new Silverado fan by any means as they are ugly as fuk but the Trail Boss doesn’t even compare to the Power Wagon. Until they drop the IFS and go back to a solid axle they will never be as off-road capable.

Joke of the day winner here!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Trail boss is king of the grocery getters.