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2020 Haibike FLYON Review a Super Ebike - NDURO 10.0 £7999

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Rob Rides EMTB

Rob Rides EMTB

5 жыл бұрын

My review of the Haibike Flyon NDURO 10.0, a super powerful, high tech ebike.
Haibike sponsored the trip to the Megavalanche and provided the bikes to ride, so I've added that this is a Paid Promotion, however, the review content was not in any way influenced by Haibike. This is my honest opinion of the bike after riding it a few days in the South of France Alps.
Haibike FLYON NDURO 10.0 Stats:
- Price £7999
- Travel 180F 180R
- Motor TQ120 rated at 120Nm torque
- Battery 630Wh
One thing I forgot to mention was the 10 Amp charger. It charges the bike CRAZY fast, around an hour too full. That made such a difference to the riding experience. The EXTREME mode uses the battery quick! So it's great to be able to charge the bike back up in such a rapid time.
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@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Hey all - hope you enjoy the vid. Had a great time filming this! Let me know if you have any questions or comments BELOW :-)
@ChupacabraOffroad
@ChupacabraOffroad 5 жыл бұрын
Love the drone footage!
@bebie81
@bebie81 5 жыл бұрын
what abouth a reveiw of the rocky mountain powerplay?
@CraigBramscher
@CraigBramscher 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome footage and feedback. Would love to know how it compares to the M1 Spitzing!
@JAFO.
@JAFO. 4 жыл бұрын
I love that it *only costs* what I just paid for a used Mazda Miata in spiff condition, from the original owner, and with only 25K on it... 😒
@gatecrasher1970
@gatecrasher1970 4 жыл бұрын
i just bought the haibike flyon 5 allmtn xduro nduro and after only a month it starting to creak from the crank and the spokes are loose from e-bikeshop.co.uk and they refusing to pick up the bike or pay for shipping cost to fix it.
@Frack_Black
@Frack_Black 5 жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this review a long time. 👍
@elementdw
@elementdw 5 жыл бұрын
While an eMTB is out of reach for me at the moment, I wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos. The drone footage in particular really gives a cinematic, professional look that you just don't get from other reviews. Excellent job all around.
@andremassey73
@andremassey73 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob I love your reviews. You have been a big help in deciding what e bike to purchase thanks heaps. Andre from NZ
@markdunley7968
@markdunley7968 5 жыл бұрын
All mountain 5 on order for Nov’19 - size XL - ordered in March - i am sticking with it lol - great video Rob
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Cool! Enjoy, its a wait but that looks like a great bike.
@wiganer
@wiganer 5 жыл бұрын
Been waiting a few months now for next years bikes, I think this video has just made my mind up. Cracking bike........cracking video
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@akabukiman
@akabukiman 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, really love your channel! Great reviews with lots of detail, honest opinions that really help making a purchase decision and of course... great bikes 😊. I think you'll crack the 100k pretty soon.
@philiprogers4071
@philiprogers4071 5 жыл бұрын
Simply put, another great quality, informative video. Well done Rob....
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip, I enjoy creating these vids. Glad you like 😊
@markyboyclark
@markyboyclark 5 жыл бұрын
Wowzers that is heavy, didn't expect that. Great video as always.
@DominikStec
@DominikStec 5 жыл бұрын
Rob, your video skills are better and better! great video and first impressions! keep it up! :)
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Dominik Stec cheers dude 👍
@georgesolomon5696
@georgesolomon5696 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review! I;ve been waiting for this for a while.. Exciting tmes now and it seems the EMTB market is exploding as more manufactueres are getting into the game. I want ot get one but may wait till 2020 snce there are so many new models with increased range and performance being offered... Thanks again
@jirirosicky9038
@jirirosicky9038 5 жыл бұрын
Great video..well done Rob, keep it up...
@AndyPr1ce
@AndyPr1ce 5 жыл бұрын
Great job on the review and edit Rob, that Flyon was next level! So fun filming you smashing down the trails on it, I know it’s not for everyone but it truly is a unique offering in the current emtb market and will put a big smile on owners faces!😀👌
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Agree -its a bike that is not for everyone, but the ebike world needs stuff like this, innovation... Helps drive the entire industry forward.. Thanks for all your help with the shooting!
@hassebir
@hassebir 5 жыл бұрын
Always good reviews. Thanks!
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hasse
@DoctorCreevy
@DoctorCreevy 4 жыл бұрын
Just had my first day with flyon allmtn 8. Was great fun and kept up with a road bike for 8 miles until he turned off. I then went off on trails and still smiling now. Ps cracking tubes Rob keep up the good work.
@lekkerpruven887
@lekkerpruven887 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was hoping the review would be a little disappointing. Now I want this bike even more!
@kevinpunter7960
@kevinpunter7960 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Rob, thanks!
@harvenat0r2
@harvenat0r2 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t mention the juicy nature of this bike, although it is powerful, it drains the battery very quickly meaning you are unable to fully utilise the power of this bike on long rides. I think this is quite a big problem with this bike as most people want it for riding in groups
@contrdt3
@contrdt3 4 жыл бұрын
My dream bike.Great review mate
@johndude70
@johndude70 4 жыл бұрын
I got the AllMtn 10.0 for my 50th birthday, really great to ride.Really flattens out the hills.
@BertineFamily
@BertineFamily 5 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks a lot Rob. Now I have to get one. Super review, keep it up.
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers John, you’ll love it!
@pizzagorgonzola
@pizzagorgonzola 5 жыл бұрын
he keeps making us buying those bikes, and, as i am, spend two weeks alone with those bikes !, in the mountains ! stop it !
@walidelgadir4617
@walidelgadir4617 3 жыл бұрын
@@pizzagorgonzola send me one i'm frm algeria and i love bikes , but they are expensive in my country , thank you
@lack1811
@lack1811 4 жыл бұрын
Epic video mate, thanks for sharing
@MrEZZY5
@MrEZZY5 5 жыл бұрын
At last a proper review on the flyon nice one rob looks a wicked bike bit worried about the weight in the winter for the really step descents 😬
@powerbikes7233
@powerbikes7233 5 жыл бұрын
Got one on order!
@prostreet9149
@prostreet9149 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's an older video but my first time seeing it and its an excellent video, very well done.
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@AleksandarGospic
@AleksandarGospic 5 жыл бұрын
The bike that brought me to your channel last summer :) They should have announced it this summer cause now it feels like old news and it still didn't hit the stores, they killed most of the excitement with such a long delay and many interesting new bikes came out in the mean time. But yeah, great job with the review and so many beautiful scenes!
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
It’s still an exciting bike, riding it feels like nothing else
@AleksandarGospic
@AleksandarGospic 5 жыл бұрын
@@RobRidesEMTB I'm sure it does, especially that one, I meant in terms of news that it's not as exciting as it was last summer when it was announced. This delay cost them many potential buyers who were excited to get Flyon's but couldn't wait this long. I was one of them so it's a bit frustrating. But I guess they'll find new buyers without a problem :)
@markharrison3720
@markharrison3720 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like an absolutely fantastic bike & not to bad a price with all that spec 👍
@kramsenoj1
@kramsenoj1 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@alexmalone1642
@alexmalone1642 Жыл бұрын
Very super cool 😮💪maybe in the future I buy it ❤
@TheBikePilot
@TheBikePilot 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Rob. Your best review yet mate...What a machine!!
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks SO MUCH for all your help with this!
@ericm8811
@ericm8811 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! Thanks for the effort required to get that review out so fast! Flyon looks like a fantastic system! The power and torque could be advantageous to larger riders like myself! Here in the rainforests of southern British Columbia Canada 3/4 of the year is monsoon season so I'm concerned about the air vents and passageways for the intube battery cooling getting clogged with mud! I wonder how easy they will be too clean? Can you ask the Haibike dudes about that? I'm more of a function before form guy so I prefer external battery bikes! Ride ride ride!
@der_hahnenkamm
@der_hahnenkamm 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. I think you made Haibike really happy. Because of your nice scenery!👍 Did the Display disturb in the dark? Your a lucky man to test this bike right know. All the others have to wait until october or even later.
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t notice it really. Only to look down and see I was going at 70Kmh on the road down a steep hill haha
@markwhalesmw
@markwhalesmw 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just ordered the all mountain 3.0 and hoping it’s a decent bike
@stevenschwartzstein4502
@stevenschwartzstein4502 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. You should try and get your hands on that Luna X-1. Would love to see how that compares to some of the fancier European brands.
@FWCaptain-kv6sm
@FWCaptain-kv6sm 5 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the 20.0
@banditbanger13
@banditbanger13 5 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see you review the M1 Spitzing Evolution - same TQ motor, similar weight, more battery capacity... any chance you will do one in the future?
@jclar3565
@jclar3565 4 жыл бұрын
Love my M1 Spitzing. I have a feeling that the Haibike has better frame geometry handling and more technology overall. However it's going to be hard to beat the M1 when it comes to range, gearing, proven durability and perhaps comfort. I have ridden the hell out of mine for 2 or 3 years now w/ zero probs. I own a spare battery and I actually strap that to an attached seat post rack for epic Journeys that have become some of my favorite memories... that ability will continue to be an M1 superiority
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, fair enough, I actually predicted it would go there on the eebometer, even without being sponsored by Haibike, so fair play Rob, that's spot on👍. Interesting bike but not the b all and end all. And yes totally agree all mountain with its tighter maneuverability may be a more attractive option, all round.
@amersingh2557
@amersingh2557 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and very informative, thanks
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@PlateauproductionsCoNz
@PlateauproductionsCoNz 5 жыл бұрын
great review
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@bluestraycat
@bluestraycat 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Rob! Very capable, powerful bike. The price and the weight put me off though. I have to lift my bike over a gate to ride my local trails. My "acoustic" bike is around half the weight of the Haibike lol...most e-mtbikes are around 20-23kg which I imagine I could handle better.
@JonathanElvidge
@JonathanElvidge 5 жыл бұрын
I had Flyon AllMtn 5.0 on order but gave up after last delay and opted for Turbo Levo Comp as my first ebike. I’m loving the bike. Great review Rob but gut feel tells me I made the right call. Keep up the great work.
@tpickett123
@tpickett123 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 2019 Expert Levo, and even that is a game-changer for avid riders. You just can't get enough rides on them. I also have the Turbo Raod bike which is also very fun and great to ride to work!
@Onealmightypod
@Onealmightypod 5 жыл бұрын
Upper quadrant on the EEBOMETER isn’t it not triangle? Another thoroughly enjoyable watch thanks Rob honest enough to let us see the wipeouts as well as all the fun bits. I wish I could ride up chairlift stairs like that 😆 and surprise the missus in the bedroom!
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Actually that wasn't me riding the steps, that was Piers - who runs HDCM, the Haibike Design Centre. Great rider!
@Only-one-life-68
@Only-one-life-68 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob this looks good I’ve currently got my eyes on a 2020 Merida 9000,but this looks interesting as I will be using more so in winter ❄️ months so lighting seems a good idea
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
That light is epic. Could ride pitch black trails,.
@Toffer_emtb
@Toffer_emtb 5 жыл бұрын
What a good lookin beast! 😉👍
@alexmalone1642
@alexmalone1642 7 ай бұрын
I love this bike ❤️
@2wheelsonline
@2wheelsonline 5 жыл бұрын
A few things put me off this bike but the main ones are the price, the weight, the big display and only a 630 wH battery. It sounds great at first but needs a larger capacity battery to cope with the extra weight and more power. At 630 wH it probably won't go much further than a Levo with a 500 wH battery. Good review by the way but you need a long term test on British soil.
@rainerschulke
@rainerschulke 5 жыл бұрын
Great Test Rob. Best tester ever !The Allmountain „was“ my choice. But to heavy, to expensive. It will be shipped around october. But there are a lot of better 2020 bikes out there!
@TheTeophilus
@TheTeophilus 5 жыл бұрын
“ But there are a lot of better 2020 bikes out there!” Please help me finding the best one, it’s going to be my first ebike.
@chrishondacm
@chrishondacm 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTeophilus get a cube action team
@MsPaulsf
@MsPaulsf 4 жыл бұрын
its on my shopping list
@gap9992
@gap9992 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the innovation and integration of the FLYON bikes. I was going to wait for the ALLMTN version but when the launch date kept going back and back I just bought a Levo. Glad I did because the ALLMTN is not much lighter than the NDURO? Zero point in comparing this bike with a Levo so I suppose that little section was purely to show just how much more powerful the TQ motor is than the Brose. (well it was a sponsored test so fair enough) But, unless TQ has managed to develop a much more efficient motor, which I doubt, then using all that power will really slash the battery life. Not something you mentioned in the vid. If you turn down the assistance to make the battery last longer then you have all that extra weight to drag up the hills. Seems to me that Lapierre / HB have gone for the extremes of the market with the eZesty and the FLYON bikes. I think that a lot of people will just go for middle ground bikes instead?
@kenharvey9714
@kenharvey9714 4 жыл бұрын
Hasn't this bike been on pre-order for about 12 months now?
@steveareno6696
@steveareno6696 5 жыл бұрын
My kind of tech! Yeah Baby, Yeah!
@vtmwatch2255
@vtmwatch2255 4 жыл бұрын
Can you organise a head-to-head comparison with the M1 Spitzing Evolution before the year ends please ?
@jasepat3944
@jasepat3944 5 жыл бұрын
Great job as always Rob, and while the Flyon is not for me, I can appreciate what an incredible piece of engineering it is. As I’m currently researching for my first ever ebike (bring it on haters), I’m keen for your potential thoughts on the following. As I’m down in Australia a hell of a long way away from anywhere, I’m airing on the side of caution and choosing from one of the few bikes that has a decent dealer network coverage down this way. This has me narrowing the choice down to a Turbo Levo Expert, or the new Merida 10K, and with this I’m curious if you have plans to test a 10K anytime soon? As you‘re obviously a big fan of the Levo (for good reason), I’d be keen to see your comparison between these two bikes.
@alexpaynter6699
@alexpaynter6699 5 жыл бұрын
How loud is the motor? How powerful, smooth and progressive are the brakes. How long does the battery last if you are powering up hills so quickly. This may be faster than the Brose engined bikes but if it only goes half the distance it is a poor trade off. Why is it 28 kg? Other carbon bikes with the same suspension weigh 5 or 6 kg less. Is this all in the engine?
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Motor + Noisy in top modes, still noisy on mid modes, Bosch kinda levels... Battery can be destroyed quickly in Extreme mode, but similar to others in the lower down modes. I think we are at a stage where battery energy draw / software is comparable now between brands... Just the TQ120 Motor has an extra couple of modes 'On Top' of the others for crazy power.. Brakes - Magura MT7's were excellent. If I could choose any, these could be the ones I buy. Weight: TQ Motor is 1.1KG more than others... Battery... Lights... screen... beefed up frame, chain rings etc. All add up..
@golfcurve7
@golfcurve7 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Banditbanger13. Can we have a review of this up against the M1 Spitzing whi h has the same motor. I own an M1 and would be interested to know if it was any better....
@lluisguiamet5201
@lluisguiamet5201 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I didn't see the Flyon motor in your latest evaluation. I am attracted to this tech, but it is 2022 soon 2023 and I wonder if there is better outthere now. What do you advise?
@sageoz9886
@sageoz9886 5 жыл бұрын
I wish more e-bikes were available as a frame only option
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day we’ll get it.
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 4 жыл бұрын
True. Be nice to build up exactly what your want. In the meantime get the lowest spec that has frame, motor, battery u want. Strip off all the shit and put your own fork shocks, wheels, bars, groupset.
@richnieveslv
@richnieveslv 4 жыл бұрын
What camera did you use for first person footage?
@alexpaynter6699
@alexpaynter6699 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the M1-Sporttecknick bikes weigh. They have had this motor for probably 5 years now. They have recently had an upgrade with an internal battery of up to 1050Wh. Their site is very hard to navigate because it keeps reverting to Deutsch.
@Reefst77
@Reefst77 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good review! Is the motor uncoupled whilst it is disengaged/off? Do you notice much of a resistance when riding without the motor switched on and the final question, what is the transition like once you've reached and surpassed the 25km/h limit - does it cut off smoothly or abruptly?
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I couldn’t notice any resistance and it’s very smooth transition.
@coccioman
@coccioman 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve the xduro nduro 2016, i’ m curious to try this new top model. It’s like another world?
@bretleversha
@bretleversha 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tested the Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay? How does it compare? Thanks Rob
@paulinman3275
@paulinman3275 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Rob, love the videos and this bike. I have around 8K to spend and this bike is the top of my list - is there anything else I should consider that competes with this bike?
@TheTeophilus
@TheTeophilus 5 жыл бұрын
M1 Spitzing Evolution
@paulinman3275
@paulinman3275 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTeophilus Many thanks - will take a look
@rifleman42051
@rifleman42051 5 жыл бұрын
Ferrari of e-Bikes!!!
@joggerke5295
@joggerke5295 4 жыл бұрын
Hi rob, when you have to choose between the Haibik or the kenevo witch one are you gone pick ??
@kenmueller4788
@kenmueller4788 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Will check it out when and if Flyon ever gets to the US. Is there any chance of you getting a Fezzari Wire Peak to review?
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 5 жыл бұрын
I think they are changing your laws so the bike has to be coal powered.
@kenmueller4788
@kenmueller4788 5 жыл бұрын
@@julianshepherd2038 With the new PM, Newcastle could have a renaissance too. ;-)
@Dietahvr
@Dietahvr 5 жыл бұрын
Whats about the Headset/Steuersatz, its internally blocked that the handlebars can't turn around to much. You had some nice crashes with that bike, so how did it feel to you when such a force gets stopped on such a small spot that is pressed into a carbon frame? I'm worried that, on the crashs I have sometimes, the headtube just brakes apart on the force generated by the handlebars levering against the 28kg of the bike at high speed. On my actual bikes the handlebar can turn more then 180 degrees and get stopped by the cables in a smooth way:-)
@Gazooka
@Gazooka 4 жыл бұрын
Does the anti theft and the auto contact included in any flyon model or is it an extra?
@danwilliams9606
@danwilliams9606 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely machine, but it raises the question: at what point does a really powerful, super long travel, massively heavy emtb become an electric motorcycle with pedals? At what point does pedal assist start to become rider power replacement? We aren’t close yet, I don’t think, but this bike is a good sized step in that direction. What about an emtb with 150 Nm of torque, 3.5” tires, 200mm of travel that weighs around 38 kilos with extremely nice pedals? Just askin’.
@SuchtFaktorHoch10
@SuchtFaktorHoch10 5 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the e-motor speed limit but missed to say what happens around this threshold. Does it do the janking? Completely stopping at the speed. You can't hold the speed you fall under the speed limit. Motor kicks in. You get over the speed limit motors stops again. And so on? Or did they found a better way?
@pizzagorgonzola
@pizzagorgonzola 5 жыл бұрын
Insane Vidéo, did you hire the choppers from the Tour de France ? more seriously, are those drones really following you, or is this done in postprocessing ?
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a drone that’s operated by The Bike Pilot (Check his channel!).
@doublett4193
@doublett4193 5 жыл бұрын
The question is... Would you buy one? Would you replace your levo with Flyon?
@notfromearthapp
@notfromearthapp 5 жыл бұрын
I want a Levo 2019
@Dietahvr
@Dietahvr 5 жыл бұрын
These are 2 complete different bikes, I guess you will break your levo frame in 2 pieces when riding that stuff the Nduro Flyon is made for. On the other hand its heavy as fuck and not even close to the agility of the levo. If you like light bikes for trail riding or trialsy stuff then you go for the Levo or the 2020 focus Jam2 with the shortest chainstays ever on an e-bike. If you wanna hit the big stuff than you go for the flyon with its Downhill geometry and the heavy weight its gonna down the track like a tank:-)
@raupenimmersatt6906
@raupenimmersatt6906 5 жыл бұрын
What? The Trails he has ridden are doable on a normal trailbike. And If you go to really alpine trail chances are that there are lifts- so the heavy Hibike is just unneccesary
@droptuned83
@droptuned83 3 жыл бұрын
@@raupenimmersatt6906 If you say so.
@KeithChung88
@KeithChung88 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, Are there any noticeable differences between the Nduro 10.0 and the AllMtn 10.0? Coming from a Levo Comp. Thanks.
@pizzagorgonzola
@pizzagorgonzola 5 жыл бұрын
i have enough problems with my chain and cassette with a 90nm motor, on a Levo, with the current drivetrain 120nm just would not work, how did they solve this on the Flyon ? i would like to know how it does after 1000km
@maxsolo2652
@maxsolo2652 4 жыл бұрын
pizzagorgonzola So using a Rohloff hub makes sense.
@pizzagorgonzola
@pizzagorgonzola 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxsolo2652 yeah probably, except its a bit heavy, and, expensive ? ebikes definitely need a new type of drivetrain
@Peter-rl4nc
@Peter-rl4nc 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there I find a heavy duty chains fine on a 750w try to find a chain
@dhcp1rx18
@dhcp1rx18 5 жыл бұрын
nice video thx
@macmerized
@macmerized 4 жыл бұрын
What a second, 2020 Haibike? Wasn't the Haibike introduced at Eurobike 2018? Haibike still hasn't delivered any FlyOn bikes, at least not in Germany. So is the 2020 FlyOn the same as the 2019 line-up? What happened?
@esmatmardan414
@esmatmardan414 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob I have this bike but how about the battery range 630 wh is very less in to this bike ?
@TrekCompsport
@TrekCompsport 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the infomercial
@midodds5286
@midodds5286 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Like the stuff you are doing Rob! I would be likely to pre-order a Flyon but perhaps not a 10.0. Just a bit uncertain to place my money against an unstable delivery timescale. Did Haibike mention if the dates are a little firmer Rob?
@midodds5286
@midodds5286 5 жыл бұрын
PS isn’t the 10 amp quick charger an optional extra?
@l1nds290
@l1nds290 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, brilliant review , could you tell me what back pack you are using in the video please? All so I’ve just ordered a whyte E150-R, any plans on reviewing this? I was going to go for an E-Zesty until I saw your review, all unbiased and truthful :)
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, it’s an Evoc Trail E-Ride (think that’s what it’s called!).
@l1nds290
@l1nds290 5 жыл бұрын
Rob Rides EMTB thanks for the reply :)
@thesadprofessor
@thesadprofessor 4 жыл бұрын
(this the English version of a „review“ that I wrote for another yt video in German, and these are the only two, I do not intend to spam every FLYON video and I am not sponsored nor affiliated with Storck bikes :)) I recently tested the Haibike FLYON NDURO 10.0 myself and would like to describe my impression. At first and in the next few moments, the powerful engine is impressive. The bike actually only really interested me because of the 120 Nm. I am currently using a Storck Adrenic Platinum and would like to switch to an E-MTB, just as background information. The positive aspects of the Haibike are quickly explained: very strong motor (which still has no competition), quite a good integration of elements such as the lighting system and good to very good components. Negative aspects: the software tuning of the engine is far from ideal (very rough „launch“ in high and extreme mode, def. not as they describe on their homepage pointing out the ABS like sensors etc. ), requires a much better tuning in my opinion; the bike is relatively heavy with 27 kg or rather towards 28 kg, and I significantly noticed that on the trail - especially with curvy downhills you need a lot of „body“ power to keep the bike on the trail; and finally - the longer I drove - the big display / headlight "block" disturbed me, because for an E-MTB I,don’t see the point in forcing the biker to buy such a huge display and light - it should be optional. And I‘m saying this ALTHOUGH I also like to ride in the dark. Of course, other manufacturers also still have to find good solutions to install suitable connection points on the battery, which are then compatible with powerful LED headlights and so on..- Conclusion: I already wanted to order the Haibike (specifically the AllMtn 10.0 - as it has components that are very well put together for my purpose). Didn't do it because of the test drive. But they do convincing advertising for their FLYONs, and for many bikers it will be the right thing. I decided to wait for the Storck e: drenic GTQ: ebike-mtb.com/storck-edrenic-gtq-vorgestellt/ List price the same, but probably 23 kg, wireless circuit, quite possibly better software (talked to the lead engineer about it) and they an extensive and long experience with carbon frames. So, ePerformance, yes, but performance is not only measured in Nm, although it is for sure appealing. With a high powered motor, the soft- and hardware have to be perfectly balanced and executed. That is far more important to me as a sportive user than an integrated light and a large display. (if I want a large display for tracking, mapping etc. I buy one specific for my needs; no way I would put a second large display on the bar)
@allenwells33
@allenwells33 4 жыл бұрын
" very strong motor (which still has no competition". Unless I am mistaken the BBSHD, in it's basic configuration, has 160nm torque. Isn't that competition?
@lastyledotch
@lastyledotch 5 жыл бұрын
Where have you been in the Alps for driving this bike?
@spookmore
@spookmore 5 жыл бұрын
How's does the Flyon compare to the DAS SPITZING and DAS SPITZING PLUS.its not been spoken about so far..
@e-bike-bys-vykken7422
@e-bike-bys-vykken7422 3 жыл бұрын
will the 630 batterie from this bike fit in the haibike xduro allmtn 3.0 frame for more run time
@JAFO.
@JAFO. 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video for sure, but those tyres can offer only so much traction. When the weight factor increases, the reserve traction for handling severe situations decreases.
@cpinch73
@cpinch73 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob sorry I'm late to the party with this one but I've just bought the allmtn 5.0 flyon. How did you find the battery on this epic ride you did? I'm just concerned its gonna eat batteries to quick? Just wondering how u found it? Great videos by the way.
@pannonianknight
@pannonianknight 4 жыл бұрын
What was the damper length on that specific bike?
@richardallen1835
@richardallen1835 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob. I like the idea of getting an EMTB from one of the British companies. You going to get the change to review the orange charge/surge or the new whyte ebikes?
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly :-) I'm open to all bikes..
@garrylarose1506
@garrylarose1506 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when these are available in Canada?? I love my 2019xduro nduro 6.0
@lucasguesswhoo9333
@lucasguesswhoo9333 4 жыл бұрын
greyp g6.3 or this one. which one you choice in this comparison
@cnewto12
@cnewto12 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you on some proper trails Rob away from those bike parks and Swinley Forest. You will never look back...
@jonathan9603
@jonathan9603 4 жыл бұрын
Acabo de ver una en persona en un escaparate a la venta,, unos 9.000€...pero estaría dispuesto a comprarla si los tuviese a mi alcance!! Una auténtica belleza
@jimbeck8836
@jimbeck8836 4 жыл бұрын
2020 FLYON available in the US? when?
@gatecrasher1970
@gatecrasher1970 4 жыл бұрын
i just bought the haibike flyon 5 allmtn xduro nduro and after only a month it starting to creak from the crank and the spokes are loose from @t and they refusing to pick up the bike or pay for shipping cost to fix it.
@russellwilson5246
@russellwilson5246 5 жыл бұрын
hey rob good vid...you dident talk about the fast charging...its important when you ride all day or molti day adventures...its a new sport i call energy scavenging:)
@maxsolo2652
@maxsolo2652 4 жыл бұрын
Put the “Bulls e-streamer evo AM 4 27.5+” on the board.
@jakubmenousek5375
@jakubmenousek5375 3 жыл бұрын
0:41. Please can i ask where is that recorded?
@Helim73
@Helim73 5 жыл бұрын
Very very nice review , I was looking for a review like this for long time . To be honest is missing only one thing : how is the endurance vs a Bosch cx 500 using a similar level of assistance as a Turbo for Bosch ? Because I know already that the max assistance and full 120nm will drain the battery faster then a Turbo with 75nm. I want to be sure that the endurance with similar usage like Turbo Bosch CX is not worst. If a medium assistance is similar to the new Turbo Bosch 2020 with 625 battery then this bike will be mine .
@RobRidesEMTB
@RobRidesEMTB 5 жыл бұрын
I’d say on Medium mode (I’d say this is in between Trail and Turbo on Brose) then battery levels will be in a similar range to other brands. Think of the Extreme mode as another huge power levels on top of existing motors, and everything lower than that an equivalent, with similar draw on battery energy.
@simonepinazza3677
@simonepinazza3677 4 жыл бұрын
@@RobRidesEMTB This bike is really more useful in high slopes climb ? Or the more power, don't need it.
@richardmarsh292
@richardmarsh292 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob great video,scenery looked outstanding, I have an all mountain 8 flyon on order in size large and I’m 6’1 just hoping I haven’t made a mistake and should of ordered the XL .What size did you ride and how tall are you would be interested to hear your views.
@sageoz9886
@sageoz9886 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Marsh oh man I'm envious, you made a great choice. I'm 6'0 and would probably go with an XL as well.
@mushroomgods4707
@mushroomgods4707 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a large will be plenty big enough for you and it should be a little but lighter than the XL. Enjoy it and have fun. I'd love to try one out.
@martincraggs1162
@martincraggs1162 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 6ft and went with the XL.. it's the perfect size for me
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