2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid vs. Toyota RAV4 Hybrid Slip Traction Test: One Is Clearly Better!

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4 жыл бұрын

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( www.TFLcar.com ) Both the 2020 Honda CR-V Hybrid and Toyota RAV4 Hybrid manage remarkable fuel economy, but how good are their all-wheel drive systems in slippery conditions? In this TFL Slip test, we try out each car's electric motor-assisted all-wheel drive system to see which one outperforms the other if it loses traction in various conditions.
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@Thomas-qk7wf
@Thomas-qk7wf 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that. Keeping a close eye on this series since the CR-V Hybrid came out. We're considering one. We'd also like to see how the Ford Escape Hybrid would fare in a test with these vehicles. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
@jaytate491
@jaytate491 4 жыл бұрын
Escape is smaller. The RAV4 is splitting the middle now between the Explorer and the Escape. I was actually looking at the RAV4 because I could lay down in the back of it if i wanted to sleep in it.
@mobgma
@mobgma 4 жыл бұрын
Rav4 can tow, CRV cannot. Real world MPG on CRV will be 34. Rav4 real world mpg is 38. Infotainment is subjective. crv has full led for 2020 okay. crv is overall a bit more spacious i will admit. rav4 is more $$$ but here is why. rav4 has a full size spare tire, crv does not. rav4 was designed to be a hybrid from chassis up. crv is an old platform that had batteries slapped in it. rav 4 has more rear cargo since the crv slapped batteries in it. rav4 has optional full pano roof. rav4 has an eawd system (debatebly better than a mech awd system but i will say a mech system is better maybe. the eawd could be awesome but toyotas programming of when to use the 2 rear motors sucks imo. rav4 has better MPG numbers both on paper and real world. 2020 rav4 base model has 8" screen vs 5" base model screen on crv. Apple and Android auto are std on Rav4 and optional on the CRV (although most crv will have it). rav4 has full 360 cameras while the CRV does not. rv4 has heated rear seats and crv does not have this. rav4 hybrid has been tested as having a faster 0-60 than the crv hybrid. rav4 does not have leather option but softex fake leather, okay +1 for CRV. CRV doors have plastic all over while rav4 has soft touch all over as in no plastic. rav4 has optional cooled seats in front and crv does not have any option. CRV is ill equipped all in all and the cheaper price justifies it.
@gondorian1006
@gondorian1006 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaytate491 the escape has much more passenger space than the RAV4 but less cargo space.
@fr373969
@fr373969 4 жыл бұрын
@@mobgma great comparison, but from the value perspective, I think CR-V hybrid EX is hard to beat
@walkerl.9402
@walkerl.9402 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas go Honda!
@Roddy451
@Roddy451 4 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion. This should be a standard test that you should do on all AWD and 4WD vehicles. I am sure it takes quite a bit of time, but it is extremely informative and separates the performers from the wannabes.
@James-il3tq
@James-il3tq 4 жыл бұрын
It's no substitute for real world test. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMqalZt016elZqs.html We Take The 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid To The LIMIT Off-Road Deep In The Mountains
@gabrielgoforth7378
@gabrielgoforth7378 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite test. I hope you guys continue to do this for all the awd vehicles. Really proves without taking them off road how well it would work. Keep up these tests.
@DJ_Underwood
@DJ_Underwood 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing back the slip test Tommy, I find it really fascinating.
@DarthNero
@DarthNero 4 жыл бұрын
This type of video was much needed. I was tired of seeing jeeps and off-roading most of the time. Glad to see some variety. Can you guys also do a home videos of owners like you’re doing on pick up trucks but on cars and crossovers? It will be interesting to see how the real owners views this cars.
@amagtibay1
@amagtibay1 4 жыл бұрын
You need to do a slip test with the two front wheels and one back wheel on rollers to showcase the awd system. It will highlight how they transfer power to one back wheel.
@cascivic
@cascivic 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Tommy 👍 glad to see slip test back
@lifereview2023
@lifereview2023 4 жыл бұрын
Let me just say thank you for your videos. I have watched your channel for a while and it seems like every time I wonder about a vehicle and how it will do you guys make a video the next week. Keep it up.
@morrisbutrafili987
@morrisbutrafili987 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Please keep em coming!
@s.j.1298
@s.j.1298 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this type of testing. Def helps differentiate two close competitors.
@trudgyhd
@trudgyhd 4 жыл бұрын
Love these type of comparisons
@nateuther2451
@nateuther2451 4 жыл бұрын
My wife and I are currently cross-shopping these two and I appreciate the direct comparison. I look forward to seeing some more in-depth reviews of both!
@alheiman9525
@alheiman9525 4 жыл бұрын
Crv has no spare tire. If that's not an issue, the Honda is fairly nice!
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 4 жыл бұрын
Tommy's slip test is back! Thank you! We have a RAV4 Hybrid + snow tires. It did great in Michigan.
@LonnieC916
@LonnieC916 4 жыл бұрын
Good review. I had no idea the Rav4 would perform so poorly. The Honda CR-V has my attention.
@dygardion9130
@dygardion9130 4 жыл бұрын
Lonnie Cox they are suvs, they both suck
@James-il3tq
@James-il3tq 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't the RAV4 with torque vectoring that's on Limited and Trail/Adventure models. Besides roller test who cares, take it for test in real world and see how they do kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMqalZt016elZqs.html We Take The 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid To The LIMIT Off-Road Deep In The Mountains
@truthistruth615
@truthistruth615 4 жыл бұрын
@@dygardion9130 , there's nothing wrong with SUV's. You suck
@rickyloganjr.2362
@rickyloganjr.2362 4 жыл бұрын
Tommy 🙂, excellent comparison vid.
@ia6980
@ia6980 Жыл бұрын
This is some advanced testing, interesting scenarios, thanks
@amramweismann6162
@amramweismann6162 4 жыл бұрын
I live in the UK and drove my RAV4 Hybrid 4X4 in Scotland in bad weather on bad farm roads and also watched your RAV4 Hybrid off road test and never found it lacking in grip or felt unsure or that i will get stuck it's not a Land Rover but drives nicely off road or on it
@jonb2139
@jonb2139 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Tommy! Very impressed by the hondas performance!
@valdius85
@valdius85 4 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that RAV4 failed the three-roller test. The traction was on the front axle, so it should have managed to go out on trail mode.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 4 жыл бұрын
Waldemar Ishibashi Open diff in the front. If the traction control system doesn’t engage, it will not send torque to the opposed wheel. Toyota has had this issue since forever.
@user-gx2bs1vq7w
@user-gx2bs1vq7w 4 жыл бұрын
@@afcgeo882 Toyota is the only US manufacturer that does not produce a 1/2 ton pickup with a rear locking differential. The head engineer, for Tacoma/4Runner/Sequoia and Tundra is on record stating the Tundra, even in the TRD Pro trim doesn't need a rear locker. I hope TFL does more of these tests to prove to Toyota how important locking differentials are, especially in off-camber situations.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 4 жыл бұрын
Eat On Tre So what? Toyota never wanted to market toward off-roaders with the Tundra just as they saw no need for a half-ton, which would require too much R&D given the market preference toward American brands. In fact, no foreign company makes a 1/2 or 3/4 pick-up for that very reason. The Tundra does have a decent LSD. It’s not a locking diff, but for light duty pick-up use it does well. Tundra sales are strong, despite it being ancient and that’s what matters. We’ll see what comes on the next iteration of it. Either way, since you felt compelled to add the Tacoma and 4Runner into the mix... they do have rear locking differentials. Also, Toyota is not technically an “American manufacturer”, whatever you mean by that. They have some cars they make in the US, but it is still, very much a Japanese company.
@user-gx2bs1vq7w
@user-gx2bs1vq7w 4 жыл бұрын
@@afcgeo882 LUL @ "no foreign company makes a 1/2 ton for that reason". Go look at the Nissan Titan Pro-4X, it has a proper rear locking differential.
@blaneblue1739
@blaneblue1739 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-gx2bs1vq7w And nobody is buying it.
@lawnmoose
@lawnmoose Жыл бұрын
I love this test!
@cooperf1997
@cooperf1997 4 жыл бұрын
Please take the hybrid CR-V to the Colorado mountains like you did with the Rav 4. I would love to see that!
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 4 жыл бұрын
The CRV doesn't have the ground clearance that the Rav has. That would be the deciding factor off road. But 99.9% of people will never take either of these vehicles off road (except on maintained gravel or dirt roads). It's not what they are built for.
@nathanspence4859
@nathanspence4859 4 жыл бұрын
Very true. But it's worth a try.
@josuesoto9999
@josuesoto9999 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, but I would like to see a video for the gas models such as RAV4 TRD, Adventure or limited since they have the torque vector system.
@TylerMillhouse
@TylerMillhouse Жыл бұрын
They tested the TRD in another video, and it could push itself off the rollers with one rear wheel.
@pinakmiku4999
@pinakmiku4999 3 жыл бұрын
Honda CRV just smashed the test! Didn’t expected this. Excellent job Honda!
@WT2D-Michel
@WT2D-Michel 4 жыл бұрын
Dude awesome channel......👍🏼
@marinusscholtz9342
@marinusscholtz9342 4 жыл бұрын
Well done! Thank you very much.
@traildawgsoffroad5156
@traildawgsoffroad5156 3 жыл бұрын
I really like these tests. They show the computers intelligence when it comes to awd systems instead of driver/tire skill like most tests out there. As a fan of this, can we start seeing 4x4 full size trucks do this same test? I'm curious to see what the difference is between manufacturers. Thanks guys.
@mikemcintosh9933
@mikemcintosh9933 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you. Seriously considering the Honda.
@JusticeGamingChannel
@JusticeGamingChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this done with the Adventure model RAV4 versus regular whatever.
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting result, especially since the first non hybrid versions of this generation of CRV had notoriously weak awd systems. The center clutch would often overheat long before you were clear of an obstacle, or the system would not be able to transfer enough torque to the rear wheels in the case of a loss of traction on the front. I actually have had a few clients with brand new crvs at my shop insisting that their awd doesn't work because the front tires just spin in the snow and they don't go anywhere. Happens every winter since this generation came out
@PVo-1111
@PVo-1111 4 жыл бұрын
Thats why the rav4 has better mpgs combined because of the missing mechanical drive shaft to the rear. Unless you are getting yourself into extreme situations I dont think a slip test should worry most buyers. I offroad my 2019 rav4 hybrid just fine. It gets me to my campsites with confidence. I'm still waiting on the gas version of these 2 to hit the slip test. It's hybrids, I'm not expecting these to be trail bosses. They are hybrids ment for mpg and that's what you buy them for. Get a real truck if you expect these to do any real offroading. Now for on road foul weather driving both of these would be fine. I took my 2017 rav4 hybrid with the 1st gen AWD-i to the colorado mountains in January through deep snow just fine no issues. It got me to the top and back down on all season tires that's why i bought the 2019 because its been proven to me that in real life situations the rav4 works great. I do carry traction boards in the back at all times for the "extreme conditions" lol
@jackycheung6279
@jackycheung6279 4 жыл бұрын
You are right, I don't think most people wear a Rolex Submariner to diving into deep ocean,even swimming .
@PVo-1111
@PVo-1111 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackycheung6279 thats like saying people don't offroad Mercedes Gwagons. Theres a few out there just not much. And the Rolex comparison is a bit much. Id say Casio maybe lol because the people that do dive wouldnt buy that neither
@ednis32
@ednis32 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like a salty toyota fanboy. Care to read the title again? Slip Test right? Not MPG test? The Honda clearly won, and for argument's sake, to your point that people buy HYBRID for their Mpg, well duh, but people who buy AWDs expect these systems to work or else they'd just get the FWD version hence this AWD TEST.
@PVo-1111
@PVo-1111 2 жыл бұрын
@@ednis32 it does work. For what you get this vehicle in when it comes to real world situations, this system works. You won't get stuck on the road during bad weather. You opting to call people names right off the bat to make yourself seem smarter doesn't work bro. Also there's videos out there that doesn't do slip test but actual trail and the CR-V does horrible compared to the Rav. If anyone sounds salty it's you.
@omarmontoya115
@omarmontoya115 2 жыл бұрын
@@ednis32 and you sound like walking buyers remorse. Take your Honda to the trash along with yourself
@underscr0e
@underscr0e 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a review like this with the mazda cx-5 turbo awd.
@balbinomercado7602
@balbinomercado7602 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for this inside look at be the SUVs an I like watching you man ur like a new version of ur pop an a lot more understandable lol I love all TFL shows
@mugensamurai
@mugensamurai 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video dealers will no longer be able to markup the price past msrp on the Rav4. Thank you!
@robertrousseaux1059
@robertrousseaux1059 4 жыл бұрын
We have the RAV hybrid, in slipping conditions the dash display shows which tire is turning and which isn't , usually it shows all four tires taking off from a stop . There is a setting in the menu that allows you to decide that. I will look at ours when it's back home. Haven't been stuck yet.
@jamesyang4077
@jamesyang4077 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Honda CRV hybrid and I feel that it maneuvers great under snow. The rear wheels have enough amount of power so that it’s hard to get stuck in the snow when you’re in the stop and go traffic, especially making a left turn where there’s usually more snow on the lane.
@underscr0e
@underscr0e 4 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion, maybe use a more visible piece of tape for your tests! Love your videos!
@waseemsells5378
@waseemsells5378 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison test!! Honda!! 🔥
@_Chev_Chelios
@_Chev_Chelios 4 жыл бұрын
2:34 traction content starts
@tax2607
@tax2607 4 жыл бұрын
Go Honda these situations can easily happen in snow here in Canada. No wonder CRV sells so well here. Can you try same test with Plot vs highlander. Any news if they'll ever be a Honda Pilot Hybrid? Great video as usual TFLCar. Thanks.
@Juanplusone
@Juanplusone 4 жыл бұрын
Please compare all 3 awd systems on the 2020 Highlander. Thank you.
@parsley0120
@parsley0120 4 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of surprised at the number of people that are disappointed with the RAV4's results. The RAV4 Hybrid doesn't have the mechanical AWD system that the CR-V Hybrid has, even just knowing that one fact it should come as no surprise that the RAV4 Hybrid isn't going to perform as well. I had a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid through the winter and its AWD system won't blow you away, by any means, but it is capable of assisting in starts and up hills. If you're used to mechanical AWD systems and then drive a RAV4 Hybrid during the winter, the difference is crazy. It's still capable, to an extent, but it's an entirely different feel.
@HoosierDaddy_
@HoosierDaddy_ 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see all of these 4wd/awd cars and trucks put to this test.
@rahulrane1658
@rahulrane1658 4 жыл бұрын
I own a RAV4. The AWD on it sucks. Cornering during snow, it drifts out of line, even with snow tires on. Same with the Highlander. I have a Pilot and that thing hugs the ground like anything. Same thing with the CRV which I tested in the showroom - We are trading our RAV with a CRV soon. With Toyotas if you want some good traction, you would need to go with a 4Runner or Sequoia, the lower vehicles are BS :-)
@tmmsplace
@tmmsplace 4 жыл бұрын
I had a RAV4, it was a 2009. The 4W drive system was great on dry Road, pretty good in the rain, not good in snow. Disappointed it’s not improved in over 10 years. Keeping my ‘98 suv with old school 4WD
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 4 жыл бұрын
Tommy, put some oil on those rollers!!
@TFLclassics
@TFLclassics 4 жыл бұрын
I did, they are just super squeaky
@brl5755
@brl5755 3 жыл бұрын
Grease, not oil
@subazealand9158
@subazealand9158 4 жыл бұрын
No surprise. Toyotas in general they have a weak AWD system. Even the petrol versions, with a much better technology, they still struggle in some of these tests. I think the CR-V still has the stigma of bad AWD due the older generations issues, but even the petrol version of the CR-V it does quite well for what it is
@mcalebeb
@mcalebeb 4 жыл бұрын
Baltazar Campos Nieto very true. Considering the videos we have seen of the older systems.
@Phrancis5
@Phrancis5 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been pretty impressed with my 2017 CRV when light off roading. This new hybrid uses the same mechanical awd sys, so it should be the same result.
@mtunofun1
@mtunofun1 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Passport with the watered down SHAWD. Very good performance when I drove in Grand Canyon National Park during a snow storm.
@MoneyMaking861
@MoneyMaking861 4 жыл бұрын
They hybrid has a crappy awd system!
@subazealand9158
@subazealand9158 4 жыл бұрын
@@mtunofun1 I think current generation of CR-V it has a decent AWD, and more capable than many people think it is. But if you want something more off road orientated your Passport is the way to go
@OverlandTT
@OverlandTT 4 жыл бұрын
Tommy, when slipping I'd like to see the trick of left foot brake and gas to trick the abs system and traction control on/off... Would make interesting video.
@josevega2399
@josevega2399 4 жыл бұрын
What if you tried to apply the break a little bit, would that help with the spinning tire?
@Bjd79
@Bjd79 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 2012 Honda CR-V EX-L AWD
@MrAWD-ox3gk
@MrAWD-ox3gk 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do Kia Telluride vs Toyota Highland vs Honda Pilot AWD test on the rollers???
@thisisTuckahoe
@thisisTuckahoe 4 ай бұрын
Just got back from a month in CO with my Rav 4. I had some sketchy moments going down snow packed mountain passes but ended up figuring out that the AWD system performs MUCH better when you press & hold the traction control switch to fully turn off the TCS system.
@alexyakuba2805
@alexyakuba2805 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that Toyota would make that rear motor a bit more aggressive to kick in sooner. I can see it being a problem on a snow when you need to start from a traffic light. It is much better than a previous model, but still not there yet in my opinion.
@gondorian1006
@gondorian1006 4 жыл бұрын
Please do this test with the AWD escape hybrid.
@pk6336158
@pk6336158 4 жыл бұрын
hey, where can i buy these rollers, i want to use them to test wheel bearings thanks
@pranjalsharma479
@pranjalsharma479 4 жыл бұрын
The Crv was criticized alot when its awd used to fail in these tests
@joelarson6884
@joelarson6884 4 жыл бұрын
How did you guys make or get those rollers?
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 4 жыл бұрын
That test surprised me,..h'mmm ! I too, was hoping that the RAV4 would win hands down,..I have been 'educated' again.
@MiguelLopez-fh7vx
@MiguelLopez-fh7vx 4 жыл бұрын
Great I made it on time since I had online class at 7:30 😪 great vid tho
@jongvzman9752
@jongvzman9752 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys. I currently own a 2019 crv awd. And a 2021 corolla. I was looking to trade up the corolla for the rav4 hybrid instead if going for a 2ns crv (hybrid) bc of mpg. this vid made me realize a 2nd crv is the best choice due to bad winters in New York. I rather lose 3-6mpg n have a reliable awd
@rsl3600
@rsl3600 4 жыл бұрын
Someone mentioned tire size in relation to the rollers. Looking up the tire sizes used for each car shows that the RAV4 has smaller tires. Not much smaller, just maybe about 1" But smaller tires will fall "deeper" into the rollers, thus the "hill" they see is steeper. Still like the test though.
@johnbentley364
@johnbentley364 2 жыл бұрын
This is also why you're 100% fine getting the base model if you live in the south. The Rav4 AWD only delivers 50% power to the rear on demand. You're basically in 2WD until it senses the rear is needed. That's not to say the AWD doesn't help at all, just that you'd be paying for something you don't really need unless you live up north where you're gonna be on ice and snow more than 2 days a year.
@papayamango7507
@papayamango7507 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried a front wheel drive only on the TFL Slip Test? I'd kind of like to see how that works, if it can even do it.
@clinteschroeder3091
@clinteschroeder3091 4 жыл бұрын
pallisade or telluride traction test please
@nomad9937
@nomad9937 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Great review. Tell me the dimension of the tires on the Honda, please
@surmaa2652
@surmaa2652 4 жыл бұрын
I used own Honda crv AWD and they work wonderful in Snow and muddy condition..
@chrisE815
@chrisE815 3 жыл бұрын
Which year? My 09 gets my out of the driveway, but I hate the system in most other conditions. Oversteer is a big problem at speed
@joeaverager
@joeaverager 5 ай бұрын
My CRV 5MT AWD is 25 years now. Always gets us where we need to go. No AWD problems whatsoever. Just change the fluid.
@joeaverager
@joeaverager 5 ай бұрын
Understeer is the biggest problem on the old ones like mine. Rear axle pushes and front axle has little traction so it understeers. Let off the power and the problem resolved itself.
@amadeyito
@amadeyito 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that rollers test done on a Mazda CX-5 AWD 2020 (not Turbo).
@ff11dream
@ff11dream Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@erichachey
@erichachey 4 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that if it weren't for the rollers moving around and the tire grabbing the side of the rails, that Rav4 would still be up there on the 3-wheel slip test.
@Phrancis5
@Phrancis5 4 жыл бұрын
yeah I noticed that too
@Malc664
@Malc664 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the size of the wheels on the Honda. They are a lot bigger, would that make a difference to this test?
@Dman-jr8ey
@Dman-jr8ey 4 жыл бұрын
Can we please see the traction test performed on full size trucks?
@jjoncm1
@jjoncm1 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the rav4 prime and it’s stronger motor have better performance. Can you do this test on it if you get time when it comes out?
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 4 жыл бұрын
The Honda was just starting to move on the diagonal test when you took your foot off the gas and tried again with the traction control off. Should have just persevered a little longer. Should also have tried the 3 wheel one with just one rear wheel having traction. Honda has always had a superior AWD system to Toyota in this class of vehicle and indeed even in other classes.
@aaronkimball7092
@aaronkimball7092 4 жыл бұрын
You would expect these popular (not so cheap) crossovers to perform a little better
@James-il3tq
@James-il3tq 4 жыл бұрын
Take them off rollers and into real world. They both perform well for day to day use in winter and light off-roading, which is all 99.9% of people do. I have a RAV4 hybrid XSE and it's very capable in winter and light off-roading in summer kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMqalZt016elZqs.html
@geekstar2937
@geekstar2937 4 жыл бұрын
Honda did a pretty good job. The 3 roller test gives hard times even for much more expensive 4x4 cars like Audi and BMW. From what I've seen Subaru performs the best in these tests by far.
@razoredge3265
@razoredge3265 4 жыл бұрын
great idea, seeing is believing
@philippernice8769
@philippernice8769 4 жыл бұрын
The Toyota all-wheel-drive system is disappointing but I don’t think many people are leaving the pavement in the hybrid vehicles
@James-il3tq
@James-il3tq 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind slip test, it's not real world. RAV4 hybrid EAWD much improved over previous model with more hp and torque and better VSC. While it doesn't have torque vectoring like Honda's it's fairly impressive in poor climate and off-roading. I've taken both off-roading (mild to moderate). Remember tires mean more then AWD system. Winter tires help more then AWD in winter and off road tires help just as much as AWD when going off the beaten path. Check out Tommy off-roading RAV4 hybrid. He was pretty impressed, so was I! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMqalZt016elZqs.html
@lamyaanm2587
@lamyaanm2587 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheKing-hr7uh I'm considering getting the hybrid limited but didn't find anyone who used it. in your experience, do you recommend it? pros and cons? It'll be my first car so I'm nervous
@pbear216
@pbear216 4 жыл бұрын
My Rav4 Hybrid is amazing off-road. If you get stuck, you had no business being on that trail anyway. If it can clear it, it can drive on it, plain and simple. The only limiting factor offroad is ground clearance here.
@aaronjhall
@aaronjhall 2 жыл бұрын
@@James-il3tq This video is a perfect showcase where they take the same car with 4WD and summer tires and compare it to 2WD with winter tires. Spoiler alert: 4WD cant make up for crappy tires kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9qRrKuCvtelY5s.html&ab_channel=TyreReviews
@XGen_23
@XGen_23 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the video. Now I know my CR-V Hybrid capability
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the same test with the ML320
@empmw
@empmw 4 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think
@JackZeroZ
@JackZeroZ 4 жыл бұрын
Please do Subaru accent vs Kia Telluride Or Hyundai Palasade
@bob4465
@bob4465 4 жыл бұрын
Old fashion locking hubs, transfer case and Positraction would work best!
@RoelLopez92
@RoelLopez92 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like he kept letting off when the Toyota started to figure it out. Toyota’s take a long time to figure things out but I’ve seen videos of these rav4 hybrids off-roading and they do really well just got to keep the throttle down and let trail mode do it’s thing
@rik999
@rik999 4 жыл бұрын
What happens when the two front wheels and one rear wheel are on rollers? Can enough power be sent to a single rear wheel to pull the car out?
@valdius85
@valdius85 4 жыл бұрын
Have a look at this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9x-lMyJ38rYnoE.html
@J-W.-
@J-W.- 4 жыл бұрын
Probably not the Toyota since its power output is slim.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 4 жыл бұрын
Use the old hand brake trick. Locks both rear tires. Like a locked differential.
@J-W.-
@J-W.- 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelgjr1999 LOL! These cars have Electornic parking brakes which will automatically disengage if you put into drive.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Washington Oh my god, these CARS are garbage!
@johanfolkesson5170
@johanfolkesson5170 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for valuable insights! I would not have thought the RAV4 would perform so badly. I’m also a bit disappointed, because I think the principle of the separated drivetrain is quite reasonable (on this type of car), and I’m not convinced that this is what causes the bad result in this test. Agreed, in real offroad situations, it should suffer from the low rear wheel torque, but I think, in this test (and on my sometimes unevenly icey slope at home), the difference between failure and success might come down to how well the system manages the brake on free slipping wheel(s).
@meanone111
@meanone111 4 жыл бұрын
Could be that the physical shaft on the CRV actually made a difference and the setup with a separate motor in the rear of the rav4 doesn't really work well for a AWD.
@claudeperrault4164
@claudeperrault4164 4 жыл бұрын
Just for the fun of it, do this test with a new JL! Unless you have done it and I missed it! Thanks for your great videos!
@camaroman101
@camaroman101 4 жыл бұрын
That's no fun, its like shooting fish in a barrel.
@christinarizos8577
@christinarizos8577 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I waited for the Honda to have a hybrid. This has confirmed my new car choice!
@alheiman9525
@alheiman9525 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck without a spare tire though
@chriscarguy
@chriscarguy 4 жыл бұрын
Christina Rizos you better wait, the Rav4 got over 41mpg and the crv got 35mpg in their gas milage test. You better not be to hasty
@joegarrison8611
@joegarrison8611 4 жыл бұрын
I have been on the fence about buying an AWD Compact SUV, mostly between the RAV4 and the Tucson. I was REALLY starting to lean towards the RAV4 Hybrid. This just threw that one out the window. Lets see this test with the Forrester and Tucson please.
@gdvadventours5512
@gdvadventours5512 4 жыл бұрын
Based on their testing of Hyundai and Kia awd system,they tended to Overheat and get stuck.I will just go for Forester
@BPJac
@BPJac 4 жыл бұрын
Ah man, I'm disappointed in the RAV. I'm a huge Toyota fan, so each time they lose a shootout it hurts my soul :-(
@_Chev_Chelios
@_Chev_Chelios 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you a huge Toyota fan? BTW, can you help me pronounce TRD? lol
@BPJac
@BPJac 4 жыл бұрын
@@_Chev_Chelios My dad had a Toyota dealership where I basically spent my childhood. Just say the letters dude.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 4 жыл бұрын
No reason to stop being one. Toyota has a giant range of 4WD and AWD vehicles for different uses. The hybrids are made for street use, not off-roading, and they’re great at it. If you need heavier duty (slightly), get the Adventure/TRD trim. If you need even more, get a 4Runner. Honda doesn’t make any real iff-roaders. They all come in one capability. They’re not bad... they’re average. That suits most people, but Toyota has a bigger range. Even the Prius and Camry have AWD now. Not Honda. Honda just does the average. That’s not to say Honda sucks. In fact, I’d probably get this CR-V over the Rav4, but... if you want something else, you’re SOL with Honda.
@_Chev_Chelios
@_Chev_Chelios 4 жыл бұрын
Josh's Drawing Life I bet yer a huuge TRD fan yer self !! 💪🏽💩✊🏽
@BPJac
@BPJac 4 жыл бұрын
@@_Chev_Chelios you are just a Troll with nothing better to do. Goodbye
@nhanquach4388
@nhanquach4388 4 жыл бұрын
Does the non-hybrid versions would have the same results you think?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 4 жыл бұрын
In case of CR-V: the same result. In case of RAV4: petrol versions have much better awd systems.
@jvk813
@jvk813 2 жыл бұрын
So if Toyota Rav4 has no driveshaft underneath connecting to the rear wheel, then why can’t they remove the hump on the floor in the middle seat and make it at least flat like the one in Crv?
@alwaysiyi272
@alwaysiyi272 4 жыл бұрын
I would still pick the RAV4 Hybrid because I think it looks better and I think this AWD system wasn't designed for like this type of stuff but mainly for road use and on the main road the RAV4's AWD is more competent and efficient that's who it is also after from 0-60 on the road, overall the CRV AWD might be slightly better but I think the RAV4 is a better vehicle overall, we have been looking at these two and w keep leaning towards the RAV4 and lets be honest no one is actually taking their Hybrid crossover for efficiency Offroad lol, if you want to do that her the TRD off-road or Adventure
@James-il3tq
@James-il3tq 4 жыл бұрын
RAV4 hybrid actually pretty capable off-road! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMqalZt016elZqs.html We Take The 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid To The LIMIT Off-Road Deep In The Mountains
@helloukw
@helloukw 2 жыл бұрын
So you buy an SUV just for the road? I think it should be an overall (all roads) good vehicle, not just on road where let's be honest, a wagon or sedan would do a lot better than most SUVs.
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider, however, is ground clearance. This can be just as important or more so off road or even in deep snow on road. The Rav offers over an inch more I believe. Honda, for some reason, just doesn't seem to think clearance is a big deal. The only times I have ever gotten stuck in my CRV is when it has gotten high centered. We all know that sometimes FWD with good tires will beat AWD and the wrong tires Same is true with clearance. It can be the most important factor.
@TemoTemo1995
@TemoTemo1995 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make similar test for their older models? i have not seen one yet
@Jack.driver
@Jack.driver 4 жыл бұрын
Here they are: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebd3jdCCvLK6oH0.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpehpJCbydeaoZs.html
@TemoTemo1995
@TemoTemo1995 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jack.driver i meant 1st gen CR-V vs 1st gen RAV4, there are no videos about them
@Jack.driver
@Jack.driver 4 жыл бұрын
@@TemoTemo1995 1st generation of CR-V is the same as HR-V which you can find somewhere. Rav4 is missing.
@ironwill3035
@ironwill3035 4 жыл бұрын
Hi ironwil here in your slip test did you use a torque vectoring Rav4 or a regular and rav4
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 4 жыл бұрын
IRON WILL These are hybrids. The Rav4 has 3 AWD systems, not 2.
@daingnapusit
@daingnapusit 3 жыл бұрын
Are the tires the same? I do believe the tires can make a big difference here?
@miguelborromeo6010
@miguelborromeo6010 9 ай бұрын
Great test. I was really expecting this. I wish Toyota had an optional LSD at least for the woodland edition. I still prefer the electric rear motor vs the driveshaft only because you get better gas milage (+3 mpg) vs the CRv. Thats why you pick a hybrid right ?
@grifster981234567890
@grifster981234567890 4 жыл бұрын
Should do a slip test on the GMC/Chevrolet truck to demonstrate the G80 automatic locker.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 4 жыл бұрын
Tommy, I would like to see a GM truck with the auto-locking rear-diff on the rollers. I would like to see how soon the rear-diff takes to auto-lock.
@edu7514
@edu7514 4 жыл бұрын
Tommy do some truck 4w testing on the rollers
@alzhn
@alzhn 4 жыл бұрын
I think a truck might be too heavy for those rollers. If I recall correctly, they got them off a conveyor line so I doubt it could support a full-size truck.
@chriscarguy
@chriscarguy 4 жыл бұрын
alzhn that’s exactly what I was thinking
@steventurner4460
@steventurner4460 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, loved it. I won't be taking my CRV off-road, lets save that for Jeep, good to see Honda is improving their traction control Logic.
@bettymaverick1098
@bettymaverick1098 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Toyota owner since 1974. I looked at the CRV a few years ago. I liked it but the transmission problems were just to much to gamble on for the money. I have the Seinna front wheel drive and the traction controls saved me a few times. Not sure in the value of a hybrid all wheel drive. I would think there are better options if traction is a normal need for you.
@radzer0966
@radzer0966 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Honda, but the MPG test showing it so much lower would prob make me look more at Toyota.
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