Tks for sharing, what is the reasonable highway speed? Without revving the engine out of oblivion?

Fred Pinczuk hey Fred, if you look at some of my vids, I’m doing 70-90mph off road with no issues. At 80-90 there’s plenty left in the motor. Honda limits the motor to 90mph through the ECU. But a simple gear change and SuperMoto wheels it’ll do a 110mph on the road. You can easily replace the ECU and gearing for well over 110. I do about 95% off road, when I use pavement to bridge trails, 75 is easily obtained and maintained. 69mph with 13/49 gearing still gets me over 50mpg in most conditions. My fuel options allow me to carry 6 gallons of fuel if need be.

Thank you!

Nice / do you do any highway kms on it - looking to buy as a light adventure router and wondering about suitability

Black Pearl Pastoral Yes, over 300 miles on it thru canyon roads. Rides awesome, the seat is stiff but I just ordered Seat Concepts comfort seat.

Get Vortex and full exhaust, you wont believe the difference. I just put a Works connection clutch perch and lever. I’m thinking of doing my fork springs.

@@fragpants I am within the factory weight range of the stock suspension spring rates and I still upgraded my springs and valving and I can't believe the difference it made. Money well spent along with the Vortex and exhaust.

Well that is what it is man. Let the thing be what it is, which is a fucking great bike but one you can't compare to an MXer :)

What is the actual reap world maintenance like? I've heard so many different things.

yep this happend many many times on my testride....

Rekluse clutch. Problem mostly solved

So you’ve never ridden a beta I see

No

the exc-f? How smooth does the engine feel compared to the crf? Is the ktm better on the trails because it's less jerky? Sorry for all the Q's, just tryin to figure out if the crf is for me.

David Foosh The Honda 450 caused me to wreck in some bad spots due to the stalling issue, I fell on a rock ledge and lucky I didn’t get hurt. And I’m not the only one...several people I know says the thing stalls more than any bike they’ve had. I did put a tuner on it and it helped. First gear on the 450 is a nightmare! It is the weirdest thing I’ve ever felt....and yes very jerky and awkward. Now you get out of low speeds the 450 was great, loads of power and fun. But I ride quite a bit of slow technical trails and then mtn roads to the next trail, etc. I cannot emphasize enough how great the 500 is. It is absolutely smoothest power. It’s not extreme power but definitely there when u need it, I’ve never stalled it yet and feels so much lighter and nimble than the 450. I’m not saying the 450 is terrible but for what I ride the KTM is head and shoulders better....this is best bike I’ve ever had. Oh, and yes, EXC-F

When you watch reviews of the 450l and they give it good scores you need to notice that it’s always on fast flowing stuff AND in reviews where it competes with KTM and Husqvarna also take note the Honda comes in last. There’s definitely a reason. Everyone that I’ve seen on KZfaq that has a 450l says same thing....Honda made the bike WAAAYYY too lean from the factory and it doesn’t run right. Of course Honda makes a tough, reliable machine but it doesn’t DUAL SPORT well. Great on roads but sucks on trails.

Ya its to bad you have to vortex and pipe to get rid off thoes problems 1200 bucks and tires too and a seat .but you will be putting that money in you ktm 4500mile set of piston rings recommended not shur if thats even needed but as long as your riding thats all that matters lots of my friends ride ktm I try not to hold it against them lol.ride safe

@@stevenleininger5682 ive test ride the crf450l ... Went to the dealership with my honda xr650l... It got good power yup , heavy yup , overheating yup , does it stall easily? YUUUP... Ive stall the bike like 5-6 time in the short amount of time I test ride it.... If it wasnt for the terrible clutch I would consider one but... Yeah would paid more and get a 500excf insted

Saw one last week for $7499 near me. New at a dealer.

Sinister Veritas I bought a 19’ shortly after they came out. Early to mid 2019 there was a dealer in Michigan selling their 19s for 8k out the door.

That's what I did. Payed 8800 out the door. Added vortex ecu and yoshi. Made out less than 10000

Yep just recently while dirt bike shopping I saw 450L leftovers for $7499. No that’s not out the door pricing but neither is $10,399.

You can get a brand new SWM 500 for 7400, and it ain't giving up anything to the Honda OR the KTM for that matter.

Apples and oranges my friend

80lbs heavier and 1/4 the performance lol.

DR also has a much faster top end speed.

I’ve had both (Crf being the newest to the collection) and crf is way less on the maintenance by any means.

@@stb357 DR might be a tad faster, beware front mudguard may leave home. CRF generations ahead in every area except luggage and fix anywhere. Also DR run on filthy fuel, but not very well. CRF needs good stuff.

Damn.

I’ve had no problems with mine

You blame the bike but do you stop to think maybe you just suck ass at riding 2 wheels?

Yes. The 'L' (CRF450L) means legal.

What's the difference?

Joseph Truscello 1200cc’s

Dirt bike engines need dirt bike maintenance and have dirt bike reliability. Service every 600 miles for around $100

@@TheMysticalFusion what on earth are you paying $100 for?! 😂

@@williejamehufff3125 Oil change, filter lube, air in tires, spark plug, spark arrestor clean. Labor is the worst and usually comes in at $40

@@williejamehufff3125 They also charge the use of their parts

Right now the price difference between the 500 and 450L is around $1600. Decent amount of cash but not a huge difference. It offers something a little different than the KTM and is not really a direct competitor IMO. Both are fantastic but the KTM will technically perform better off-road. But 99% of the riding community won’t be able to take full advantage of either one.

He saved it by giving throttle. No fear 💪

@@matiasdun6599 the old saying ''when in doubt, GAS IT!!!''

he did do a right foot dab...a tough reflex to quash for most

I thought the same thing. I probably would’ve washed out right there. While the passing cars laughed their butts off.

@Matthew Hoopes i almost slipped out the back wheel on this wet slimy wooden bridge going like 75kmph. Just gave it gas and got out, just.

Yes

Tex Lee how did you get the 20 pounds? That still leaves it 18 pounds heavier than the Ktm 500

@@tyrelthibault5264 Not really. ktm shows useless DRY weight. honda wet weight .

Rony B KTM 500 EXC curb weight 250 pounds Honda CRF450L curb weight 289 pounds That’s a very big difference

People are buying this to actually Dual Sport on, not plated enduro. 1000 mile oil changes and i know a lot of guys that over 10k miles on them already. That'd be two top end rebuilds on a KTM.

@@tieoneon1614 There's no perfect dual sport out there. To that I say, whoever is out doing it is doing it right, regardless of the bike. I sold my wr250R and am shopping for a new DS, it's a [really] tough choice

This isn't a WRR or DRZ, don't expect it to have 5K mile OCI's. It's more of a factory street legal enduro that happens to be amazing on the slab as well. It will run circles around any of the true dual sports on the market when in the dirt and it is much more comfortable and stable at highway speeds than the 500EXC/FE501. Exhaust, Vortex ECU and shed some of the unnecessary weight and this bike becomes very hard to beat overall, but in stock trim it does have some issues. Sadly, with Honda's track record, they will likely never improve upon that and it'll be up to the owner to make those improvements post purchase.

Probably high 40's, close to 50hp

Exactly!!!

WHY Please would you replace that rear fender, is it because is is TOO Heavy? What weight (pounds/kilo's) would you save??? Would it be really worth it? Thank You n regards.

Terry Vincent looks better mostly everyone does it cuz it's not bulky looking

Bill Bates Here’s a bit of unsolicited advice TIOLI. Don’t sit in anyone’s blind spot unless you are tired of living. Pass through it as quick as you can. Car/truck drivers with windows up, listening to music, on the phone, daydreaming are absorbed in their own little world and will not hear you regardless of what exhaust you use. Ride defensively and assume nothing.

16K for a KTM EXC 450 here in 'OZ'. (Australia) WOW !

Bullshit read their review articles they're balanced

Should be able to put a tuner on it and get the power back.

It is not MX bike, it is road legal + higher service intervals.

@@adamrichards2072 Maybe

@@Spazik86 It is gutlees in Europe, and old Yamaha XT 600 has more power for much less money.

Honda had a press release error and copied some specs from the 250 and everyone really thinks this bike only makes 25hp. This bike has 44hp. Its not gutless

I ride an 850 on the trails, 490 pounds, it's not that hard.

@@Enonymouse_ I ran into someone riding an 800. He ask me to show him around. Had to help him pick the thing up 4 times. Big bikes aren't for technical trails. You must ride dirt roads

@Sinister Veritas Mountain trails, and logging roads that are sometimes covered in snow, roads covered in snow and (sometimes ice), riding in rain storms so heavy you can't see more than 10 feet in front of you. I draw the line at deep mud and sand. I'm not doing terrain you'd take a trials bike on if that's what your asking but I do push the boundaries of what a person ought to do with a bike this large. That would be normal for me.

@@markmusic1808 I figure if a person hasn't dumped their bike at least once in a while, they probably weren't doing anything that was difficult.

It's an off-road bike, you want it light and snappy. Not heavy just do it can be quiet

@@codenamenoob4973 I ride an 850cc ADV bike, it's snappy and still goes like stink everywhere I ask it to go.

Sounds like a great bike you had with a kicker

@@JetSkiSuper7 that's still very low numbers for a 450 that's closer to 250 4 stroke horsepower than a 450 but dynos can differ hugely from one to the next so horsepower numbers usually mean jack

@@JetSkiSuper7 that's good to hear.... thanks.

Exhaust and Vortex ECU and it pops 46 hp.

The 25hp number was a mix up in a press release with honda, they copied the 250 numbers. it has 44hp

The reason they can't criticize the bikes and make proper reviews is that the manufacturers wouldn't be lending bikes to them if they said bad things about it. Did they even mention the oil change intervals or valve adjustments in this video? Ryan at Fortnine made a good video discussing these reviews, you should check it out. If you want to see proper riding you have to find someone who owns the bike.

@@ThePopmas I never said they should criticise, I just want to see the bike been riden properly and less gum flappin.

Luke If you can ride as fast as the of the rider in this review your riding pretty well

Luke lmao !! 40+ soy milk drinkers. I think im thoroughly amused and offended at the same time Thankyou !!. Im 47 yrs old with over 30+yrs of off road experience and still counting. countless hours logged in the woods, on MX track and GNCC series. my garage currently holds XR650L, KDX220, CRF250R, KLX250s, 250SX and KX500 which is still my main ride and goto bike. I have apparntley earned the title of "Old fast guy on the 500" from the local young guys out here. Most of them are teenage up to early30s....Most of them are definitely soy sucking pansy ass panty wearing girls that think having a Grizzly Adams beard makes them a real man....most of them thought a KX500 was only a legend and a couple that stepped up to try to ride it couldnt even kick the bike to life. probably due to the pansy class catering e-start button on todays bikes. You got the demogaphic backwards brother LOL Im actualy considering this bike because it linked the gap between old school thumper dualsport and modern offroad bike and its a Honda enough said...maybe thats the mid life crisis trying to slow me down a bit. either way this bike is sweet, you know its capable, look again plenty of new vids out there . until then go stroke your beard and apply your beard oil

@@pooch299 😂👍🏽💪🏽