2020 Husqvarna 401 Vitpilen VS Svartpilen

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2020 Husqvarna 401 Vitpilen VS Svartpilen

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Test ride Street Scrambler against the Urban retro Cafe racer from Husqvarna and why are they so cheap now?
(Please note another difference is the skid plate on the scrambler).
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@johnkelly2902 4 жыл бұрын

A slipper clutch is NOT to allow clutchless shifting, it's to avoid rear wheel lock-ups on down shifts. You also forgot to mention just how many world championship titles Husky own, they are not just about chainsaws at all.

@sebastiangeorge7714 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks that got me a bit confused

@larry5178 4 жыл бұрын

They were first a rifle company, their logo is iron sights down barrel

@todxbranko 4 жыл бұрын

It's a system they call EasyShift, which combines the EFI cut off and the slipper clutch to allow for clutchless shifts without a dedicated quick shifter

@vintageveloce 4 жыл бұрын

Those are 2019 models, NOT 2020.

@malligrub 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, was bothering me from the second I saw the bikes. 2020 models are much better in every way

@kareldebrouwer7709 3 жыл бұрын

@@malligrub what is the difference and improvements between the 2019 and 2020 models? maybe picking one up second hand

@nickmit4406 3 жыл бұрын

@@malligrub the black-yellow paint scheme is light years better and more interesting than the boring af gray...

@akeeldberg5218 3 жыл бұрын

FYI: Long time ago, Sweden had even stranger laws than today. A "light" motorcycle could weigh maximum 75 kg and this was the kind of bike you could ride at 16 whereas "heavy" bikes were everything else and you could ride at 18. Husqvarna made the most popular "light" bike. It was called "silverpilen" meaning the silver arrow. Google it, there are photos. It had a two-stroke 175 cc with 9.5 horsepowers. Because of the weight limit these bikes were really flimsy and had only 2-layered tires. But they were popular, there were thousands. Until 1971 when rules were changed to max 125 cc for "light" bikes. This effectively killed the silverpilen.

@p.santos6644 4 жыл бұрын

2 great bikes and another great review. Nice to see all the family back together. "The three Amigos" 👨‍🔧 👨‍🔧 👨‍🔧

@jackmcdermott7383 Жыл бұрын

If the bikes aren't run in fully the red change up light comes on sooner to prevent damage to the engine. When they're run in it automatically changes to be higher. That's what I've read elsewhere

@Nickprovs 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent! I'm interested in the 401 and you guys were super thorough. Learned a lot. Also, I think cutting the video length and adding music would help attract more watchers. Very cool show though.

@nbgen 3 жыл бұрын

Good review guys I love the nearly absent of music and all as much info as you could give and your personal experiences well done

@HolmsOnBikes 2 жыл бұрын

the red light on the dash is because the bikes are still in the break-in period.

@AlexisCouant 4 жыл бұрын

Great review guy's! love the evolution of the channel still got work on the editing and image, but I'm picky on that :) as an owner of the vitpilen 401 for a year, it's an honest review, shift light go to 9000 (maybe your"s engine was not fully break and still on limiter) use it daily and made a trip from Paris to the south of France it was ok on the ass and wrist but the neck pull pack hurts at the end

@AJ-dt8bx 4 жыл бұрын

Try to get a lighter helmet and I believe it'll go easier on your neck

@BikesAndBatallas 4 жыл бұрын

Thorough review. The red light is almost certainly because the bikes remain in the break-in period.

@henrysmith5604 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been very pleased with my svartpilen the seat is very comfortable on long rides too I was really surprised more comfortable than my other bikes

@kristiankatzmer2205 3 жыл бұрын

Why you did not use the quickshifter when riding, the option comes with the 2020 model.

@Thegeordiemonkey 4 жыл бұрын

Like the Svart over the Vit but the graphics make both much better on the eye, the rear hugger numberplate spoils the rear on both but i still would not have one, i owned the Nuda when it first came out and that was quirky looking too but next level looks compared to these 2 by Moulinex.

@user-sw2lv3zp6o 4 жыл бұрын

I wanted a Nuda and was annoyed when KTM bought Husqvarna.

@federicocao574 3 жыл бұрын

A Little advise for does looking to buy one of these! The sound form the exhaust it's more agresive it's like more deep... And the vitpilen, it's really a short travel daly use bike, don't even think in going long distances, Your lower palms and wrists will thank me later. And for me the font suspension it's kinda bouncy... But that's my opinion an feel. Any way... If you are 1,60mts - 1,89 go ahead and buy it. You won't regret it for shure. Very good and reliable engine, awesome new cafe racer style, all led ilumination. Responsive on throttle. And the best of all, easy to service, even you can do the normal filter/oil change (torq wrench needed).

@madpete6438 3 жыл бұрын

Bar End Mirrors REQUIRED. Cat Delete - way more mid range. Free Flow Can (Leo Vince LV-10) - more noise. Keeps the canners away better. Michelin Road 5 Tyres for both. BTW My son and I have had one of each for 15 months now... I just did a 4 day 1200km ride on the West Coast of the South Island in New Zealand.... It tours as well as you do .... With kreiger soft bags....

@ryanhli 3 жыл бұрын

Any reliability issues? Heard the 2018 models prone to electrical issues and engine cutting out. I’m interested in getting the Svartpilen 401 myself as I do mostly inner city riding. Thx

@madpete6438 3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanhli Had a problem riding in a massive rain storm (>10mm per hour) - just once. Throttle stopped working - when it dried out it was fine. Had the Instrument cluster replaced. Did fork seals at 13000km. Pretty awesome. My son has 401 svartpilen. He commutes 60km per day. We both do touring rides (2000km +) and the bikes have been bulletproof.

@ryanhli 3 жыл бұрын

@@madpete6438 , thanks so much for your response and added insights. I'm currently on a 2016 Triumph Street Twin, Don't get me wrong, lovely bike but looking for something a bit lighter. Plus, I feel 900cc is a bit overkill for the type of riding I do in the city. My friends think it's sacrilege to 'down grade' to a learner bike but I don't care. A new Svartpilen 401 is going for just over $7k aud here in Sydney. all the best and safe riding!

@madpete6438 3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanhli401 is fantastic for traffic. I moved from K1100rs to 401. Love it still after 20 months.

@ryanhli 3 жыл бұрын

@@madpete6438 , thanks again for your response. Hope I get a chance to try it out soon, no inventory in Australia right now! All the best and ride safe.

@marcusgeorge1825 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome review gents! I think I’ll be placing an order for the Vitpilen (or both!) 👍😎

@1.8T20V 4 жыл бұрын

I just hot my 401 Vitpilen. I am loving. every. goddamn. second on it. I just cant get myself off of it! Amazing little nicker and super fun in the twisties! Great commuter aswell, even tho the seating position and everything is really something to get used to, not everyones piece of cake i can tell you so much. It only got really nice to ride after maybe 3-4 days or so, before that i really felt a little „uh, not so comfortable after all“ to be honest. But just like the first ride on a naked bike at the freeway, you get used to it.

@SMOOVERoner 4 жыл бұрын

do you have the 2020 model ?

@1.8T20V 4 жыл бұрын

Yannis K No, MY2018. I preffered the previous model because of the fact that it was still assembled in Austria by KTM. The 2020+ models are being made in India by BAJAJ. Altought the 2020 has as far as i am concerned, adjustable front forks and an easy shift function, basically a clutchless upshift, so a half assed quickshifter.

@SMOOVERoner 4 жыл бұрын

@@1.8T20V 2020's model are indeed made in India but in the same factory as KTM 390 duke. Thus, it is still under Husqvarna supervision so I guess there won't be any difference versus previous models. But I get your point, I want a vitpilen 401 and I want it to be reliable on time.

@1.8T20V 4 жыл бұрын

Yannis K Yeah of course, it only seems viable since they build the dukes over there anyways. I havent ridden the 2020 model but mine is an absolute unit. I mean, adjustable brake and clutch levers, adjustable rear damper, steelflex brake cables, all stuff that would be optional or customizable on other bigger biles sich as the MT-07 comes as standard on the pilens. Basically a combination of a duke engine and frame, rc390 stance and sportiness, KTM powerparts and a total lack of fairings. Put all that in a box and send it over to the swedes to design it and poof, Vitpilen 401. Such a stupid and inefficient combination if you think about it, but thats what makes it all the more enjoyable. And btw: I dont have anything against the factory or the fact that its being made in india, im just a little bit patriotic is all 😜 owned a KTM 990 Superduke before and it makes me almost a little proud to have the Vit be made by the same hands.

@patricksandeberg8184 4 жыл бұрын

I have tested both the Svart/ Vit and the Kim 390. The are all great But if I would between them I would have both the 401’s with the 390’s tft dash. Great value for your money and really fast and nimble for a 400cc. Seat can be change btw. Check “catalog”👍🏼

@raduarisanu6421 Жыл бұрын

which seat would you recommend for the rider and which for a passage ?

@EdGrant 4 жыл бұрын

Loved your review! And I agree, the seat is a bit too hard. Husqvarna do sell another single seat which is more comfortable.

@todxbranko 4 жыл бұрын

They are selling cheaper because they moved production from Austria to India where the Duke 390 and 390 Adventure are made, and having them produced there is just cheaper for a plethora of reasons (real-estate, labor, etc.) Quality control seems to be as good as before - so far

@todxbranko 3 жыл бұрын

@@Michelsen3K sorry, I didn't get what is not? Quality control is not as good as before?

@todxbranko 3 жыл бұрын

@@Michelsen3K I was saying because I've had a chance to see both the Austrian and the Indian made Svartpilen, and there is no real difference in the way they are put together, no flaws in the paint or hanging wires or gaps between panels, if I didn't know the one was made in India I would have no reason to assume it was. What internet says is just like you said it now, someone made an assumption and then the rest just spread it around as if it was the truth

@gerryattrickbiker 4 жыл бұрын

I quite like the quite like the weird looks but to my eyes the designers started at the front and then buggered off home when they finished the seat! Doesn't look to easy to add any sort of luggage without using blutack.

@ragerider6283 4 жыл бұрын

Really helpful & entertaining vid. Pondering a Vitpilen as stylish little runabout.

@stevegascoigne1482 4 жыл бұрын

Yay! Malcolm is back.

@kimmixerxs 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the informative and interesting video 👍🏾

@tristanrandall7695 4 жыл бұрын

I think there bikes are so cheap and aren’t selling because there not marketed enough. Can’t even tell you how many people see it and go. “What kind of bike is that? Never seen one before” and in the USA there went many dealerships until more recently. I drove 10 hours to pick up my first husky back in 2016.

@sa432jh 4 жыл бұрын

Like the look of you two , is it called the monastery look

@user-sw2lv3zp6o 4 жыл бұрын

Where are Husqvarnas assembled, at KTM or Husqvarna?

@HKWahl72 3 жыл бұрын

Svartpilen Svart - pil - en Black - arrow - the The black arrow Vitpilen' Vit - pil - en White - arrow - the The white arrow Husqvarna hus - qvarna House - mill (mill like in windmill, mill Stone or grinder) Mill house

@p.santos6644 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone knows if we will get in the uk the hanway scrambler HS250 ? Some Asian countries have it. Looks amazing

@halerankin1752 4 жыл бұрын

That Svartpilen... I dunno. Sounds an awful lot like a seagull. Thanks guys for your review video! I enjoy your humor and detail coverage of the bikes!

@PhilipBallGarry 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent review fellas! Great to see you exploring the vast variety of what's on offer these days. Not to everyone's cup of tea - styling wise but at least Husqvarna have bucked the trend again. I have a CB300R which has a similarly unique look with what Honda call the "Neo Cafe" range. I love it! Having downsized from much bigger bikes, I've re kindled some of the feeling which got me into bikes some 30+ years ago. They say a small bike ridden fast is much more satisfying than a big bike slow and I entirely agree. That said, I'd love a go on the Nuda 900 😉

@georgekrpan3181 Жыл бұрын

I had a CB300R which I recently sold to buy a 2022 Vitpilen 401. I liked the Honda but the 401 is so much better for only $450 more.

@archiecrowne 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as usual, I was wondering if there was any chance of your reviewing the Honda CBR650R? (or any of its smaller/larger counterparts)

@motorsforthemasses 4 жыл бұрын

We can certainly look into that. We will be reviewing the new blade when that comes.

@mrgjr8758 3 жыл бұрын

How about the excessive engine heat and fan noise?

@tobyratcliffe4534 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about a z125 or grom for a fun around town bike. For not much more money you get a whole lot more bike here.

@yamahapilot Жыл бұрын

I still can't decide which one to get but am leaning toward the Svart. Bald guy is a little weird, but decent review by the others nonetheless.

@JP-xd6fm 2 жыл бұрын

Well now their tag price in Spain is 6099 Euros.

@alantong5159 4 жыл бұрын

is there a semi auto version coming out this yr ?

@stanL9 4 жыл бұрын

So which one is better ?

@cem_cem9991 4 жыл бұрын

White arrow is selling for $3,999 in the US now, that’s a great deal, and I suspect 2019’s got another $500 more to go, at $3,500 it’s hard to pass on it, although I would probably change the handlebars , mirrors and the exhaust right away, probably delete the catalytic converter too

@persio6 4 жыл бұрын

Where? Lowest I’ve seen it is $4,999

@jaejun7088 3 жыл бұрын

@@persio6 some dealers put it up as $3,999 then charge additional $2,000 after all the "hidden" fees causing the total to be $6000 out the door.

@jurgensdelia2738 4 жыл бұрын

The 'Why So Cheap' question answered at 25:48

@VictorRamirez-eq6tq 4 жыл бұрын

It ain't cheap where i live. Planinng on buying one anyway 😂.

@jlpowell51 3 жыл бұрын

They were originally assembled in Austria too, moved most/all of that to India at the same time the price was dropped. So yes, they answered why it was dropped, but not how. ;)

@robdos2000 4 жыл бұрын

The KTM arrows 😋. On the ktms the red rev warning light comes on early until it's run in, then you can set it higher

@stevendavies8496 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid yet again , l only discovered these bikes this week so whent to get one ,,but was so disappointed foot control's in the sport bike configuration, hard seat, cheap grips ,so glad I whent to try one b4 buying, the 701 is much much better but that is bit out of my price range, and time I got back off test ride thay wouldn't let me test the 701 as thay checked my licence not quite a full one ,,yet , will be next month ,,,, any chance you do a vid on the new lexmoto vendetta 250 , keep up the good work guys

@ssureshkan 4 жыл бұрын

Don't rain water splash at back on a rainy day? .

@frame4144 4 жыл бұрын

is there anyway to make them faster? asking for a friend!

@You-Toober 4 жыл бұрын

Are these bikes reliable?

@OntarioAndrews415 4 жыл бұрын

Come on guys, get it right. Those are 2019 and not the 2020 models.

@papovidalfernandez7179 3 жыл бұрын

Test. Off road it. Would be. Interesting both of. Them. Thanks

@williamn01 4 жыл бұрын

What's the song on the intro it's catchy 👌

@James-vb5qe 4 жыл бұрын

The looks are Neo Cafe.

@SheldonElectricals 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm....power isnt everything! I had a 390 Duke to compliment my Triumph Bonneville, saw an offer on the 790 when it was being discontinued and p/x'd it and SO wish I hadn't! The lightweight handling of the 390 is intoxicating and I am sure I would be faster on a 390 through a given set of Twisties than on the 790. I will be adding a 401 to the fleet as I prefer the looks to the 390 Duke but need one back in my life!!

@boykogeorgiev6581 3 жыл бұрын

401 or 701 what will you recommend?

@motorsforthemasses 3 жыл бұрын

701 for better power, only reason really

@curlytheunacceptable.4298 4 жыл бұрын

To me the Svartpilen is more appealing but they are not really my cup of tea, I'm sure these punchy little bikes will make someone a good commute and with their compact size you wont't be contaminated by someone else's traffic jam, prefer the engine and frame disguised as a KTM tho.

@BrunoOliveira-cj7sh 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome review guys! I'm a sucker for looks, so when I saw the svartpilen for the first time I went into trying know more about it! I only knew their enduro bikes 🤐 Heard that they have plenty of torque! Don't know if it's a good thing for a first time biker but boy that acceleration sounds fun. The seat may be small for a passanger I guess. Here in Portugal those husqvarnas are at least 6000 euros!? 😕 I get that the looks are not for everyone, but hey that way you can easily reckon one! And that non binary bike comment was on point 😂

@BikesAndBatallas 4 жыл бұрын

Boa tarde! The 401s are that much over there? The 2019s are selling for like EUR 4400 to 5000 right now (Madrid, Spain) because the 2020s are arriving at the end of next month (retailing for 5,495 I believe, with new color schemes). I'm not sure whether to by a 2019 at the discount or the 2020. I'm planning to wait until the new ones arrive to decide.

@davidjones535 4 жыл бұрын

Not really my kind of bike I'm more into the old school shit kickers my self but I'm a old fart so that might count for it . another great one guys so thanks .

@fernandols3720 4 жыл бұрын

It is HUSQ-VARNA not HUSQ-A-VARNA dont know why so much people invent letters xD.hahahha Nice vid guys! keep it up!!

@motorsforthemasses 4 жыл бұрын

I think I said 'a' a couple of times by accident, the rest of the time, no 'a'

@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie 3 жыл бұрын

In Danish Vitpilen is Hvid Pil and Svartpilen is Sort Pil :_:

@petersimms8326 4 жыл бұрын

Nice looking things but i Will never trust the ktm 390 engine, google the problems.

@cloggsy1971 4 жыл бұрын

Bargain at £3999, but it’s still part of the KTM family & I will NEVER buy KTM again... Long story, but never again!

@motorsforthemasses 4 жыл бұрын

Ooo, intrigued

@GMss101 4 жыл бұрын

Although these aren’t the 2020 bikes

@wanderingandroid 3 жыл бұрын

how tall is the goofy looking dude with the black hair? he looks ridiculous riding in these things especially on the vitpilen. it's like he is on mini bikes.

@anjoomfaisal 4 жыл бұрын

Put in ×1.25 and get ×2 entertainment

@williamharper9893 4 жыл бұрын

2019's not 20's

@reidspeed77 2 жыл бұрын

Number plate ,,so wrong ,size of plate,what have thay done to you ,it's not very drag efficient,,and the husky sounds like a steam engine off the gas,,that's evil