Sammy L do it, you will not be disappointed

I love my 650.

Get the gsxr 750 bro ✌️👍

@@nb6065 haha yeah I wish! Unfortunately I only have room for 1 bike, and I do have some aspirations for light touring in addition to 2 wheel shenanigans

I thought the Ninja 650 was the most boring motorcycle i've owned but to each their own I guess.

You can still waste both on a bike like this. Will never understand this type of comments

Brasil e foda! I'm surprised you haven't gotten that shit stolen in Brazil. Won't get my zx10r stolen here in USA hahaha

Best on the market in my eyes

How did you pair your smart phone to bluetooth

5’8” woman you mean

@@DewrightGaming haha funny guy

Thanks for watching!

Thanks!

thanks for watching - and i agree, the stock can is quiet, but the aftermarket Akra (others are available) sounds very nice!

Does your back hurt? Or is it as comfortable as a cruiser?

​@@Deon0026yickadee I can't tell about the cruiser, the riding position on the ninja is not sportier as it looks. I never had any problems with back pain (so far) :) Sorry for the late reply.

@@jmaia91 that’s awesome to hear man.

It's a tough job but someone has to do it! ;-)

Visordown Motorcycle Videos I'd be happy to step in anytime if you need a holiday! 😎

I am thinking about the same two, the only thing that I don’t like about the Honda is that it’s pretty hard to get a newer one in Europe. Most of them sell immediately.

Price? Do you mind sharing?

What kind of price would you be looking at for the progressive fork springs?

@@RyanJamesODonnell about €150 from Hyperpro 👍🏼

It's easy to adjust the preload

@@wiggygfe We will have to agree to disagree on this. Even with taking stuff off, very difficult to position a suitable “c” spanner and pull the ring around. Some suggest easier to remove the shock to adjust it! Kindest regards.

@@kevinjerome4925 I did it by removing the overflow tank on the throttle side, then you have full access to it with no wires in the way

@@wiggygfe Thank you very much for you help - I may well use that idea.

@@kevinjerome4925 its just 2 bolts on the expansion tank (after you remove the cover) then you can get full access to the shock and easily adjust it

D C they shouldn’t work as well as they do!

Akshay Kumar looks great doesn’t it

Aftermarket can's on these sound so good!, the underslung Akra is a feast for the ears!

The Ninja will feel like less of a step up - it's also slightly comfier, cheaper to insure (probably), less thirsty and cheaper on a PCP.

@@visordown Would you recommend the Z900 from a sports touring perspective? My only worry is that its too much power and weight (I'm a lanky fella)

I wouldnt jump straight up to the Z900, it's a big jump in power and torque. Best bet is to take a Z650, Ninja 650 and then the Z900 for a test ride and see which one fits. UK Kawasaki dealers are open by appointment!

I went from the Z650 to the Z900. Have it for a 3rd season now and love everything about it except the power. It really is an amazing machine (especially bang for the buck), but I am seriously considering going back to the Ninja 650, or even a 400. The power is just too much for the street. When ever you twist your wrist a bit, you are immediatelly in "lose your license" territory. In my book, if you want to have fun on the streets, 70 hp is more than enough. I found the saying about riding a slow bike fast being more fun, than riding a fast bike slow, to be true.

@@EfferusZangetsu totally agree. Went from a bandit 1200 for a sv650 for the same reason after loosing some license points for speeding and in a car...realized i would loose my license with the bandit doing sometimes 100mph in 2nd gear just to ear the engine. Now with the 75hp of the amazing vtwin of the sv i get a lot of fun in lower speeds.

It's a perfect step up, easy delivery, comfortable, sure-footed handling. And after Ninja 300 or KTM Duke 200 it'll feel like a rocketship!

Thank you!

Dude you'll be fine I started on a zx6r. Lol. Now I ride a zx10r

@@jponz85 Ok, thanks 💪👍

@@jponz85 I’m stuck between the zx6r and 650... experienced driver and sensible but only ever rode 125cc bikes as rentals when abroad. Not at all regular.

Kind of why they are all called ninjas...

@@lovelessissimo Yeah but I'm really finding it hard to distinguish them. The head looks very similar to the 400, and zx6. :(

@@UtoyOnWheels you're not wrong, but it could also be that Kawi figured they have a good look, so why not spread the love? Haha

i think it’s a good thing. younger guys just starting out riding will feel like they are on a ‘bigger’ bike which i feel makes it more attractive

I noticed the 2020 one has a blunter nose, more like the cbr. But yea. All very similar lol

Better than a smaller displacement parallel twin

This is probably the best bike for beginners in 2021. I am buying one too in a month or two once I got my licence.

Ajinkya Nalawade I didn’t really notice any. The fact after nearly 600 miles they didn’t get a mention means they have fixed that!

@@visordown Thanks. seems like the best middle weight option for us here in India, leaving the ground clearance :P

@@visordown I had to sell my 2018 due to my fingers and hands going numb. Not sure how Kawi would have "fixed" this problem? In fact if they had done so....I think they would have been mentioning that as a big selling feature.

Would you recommend the zx6r to sensible riders above the 650?

@@GeorgeLista depends on your experience honestly.. if your sensible enough with minimum 10-15 k miles your good to go.

@@m.rraghav817 I don’t ride regularly, I’d probably guess I’ve ridden around 12,000km over the last 4 years maybe... and only on 125cc that I’ve hired in UK and Spain... long highway rides and inner cities and towns. Really don’t want to get a 650 and feel the need to upgrade and equally don’t want to get a zx6r if it’s dangerous for my lack of experience or overkill on power... that’s the difficulty I’m facing... hopefully will have a chance of an extended test ride if I can’t find where/how to rent them.

@@GeorgeLista go for something like a CBR 650r , or if your not comfortable a fz07 or a ninja 650 is perfect

@@m.rraghav817 currently comparing the aprilla 660 to the Ninja 650... heart (inner child) says zx6r 😅

Thats what I did .....out the door 6k

Then the ZX-6R is where you should be looking!

I went to 2018 gsxr 750

@@nb6065 should had gotten a zx10r like I did instead

Samuel Gillard to dissimilar to compare, the CBR650R is a great bike, but some new riders will come wider the near hundred BHP a bit too much. That’s why Kawasaki have slotted in to a place that few other manufacturers play in.

You do when it’s a stock 650... horrid exhaust.

@@GeorgeLista You got me there! 😂 I do wish the Kawasaki 650s had a 270° firing order engines and sexier silencers.

I think the 650 is a better buy, overall. The 400 is a better introduction to sport bikes and a better track bike, the 650 is a better commuter, yet it is faster and has much more power. You can easily take it to the track and be competitive, and in a straight line it is a faster bike. With the additional power of the 650, you would be shifting gears less. But the 400 is more maneuverable due to the lighter weight and smaller dimensions. Comfort I felt the 650 is much more comfortable (better seat, more padding), yet the 400 is lighter and has an even lower seat, so would be better for shorter riders. You can always change or modify the seat to improve it on either. They both are more upright in riding position than the super sports, not leaned over. The 400 you may outgrow, the 650 is a great starter bike, but has enough power to get you in trouble and you will never outgrow it. The 400 is about 20% less expensive, but the 650 comes with better equipment and more perks, plus a better "keeper". The 400, you may ride for a while but you will keep in your head that you want a bigger and faster bike over time (Not to say that is a good decision or mindset, it is just truth. Especially if your friends ride super sports.) I highly suggest you go to a dealership that stocks both, see and sit on them in person. Ask questions. Budget is another concern, the 650 is more expensive. Neither are expensive, relatively, but in the US the Ninja 400 ABS is around $5500 and the 650 ABS about $8000 MSRP. I hope this helps. No one can answer which is better for you, it is budget and personal feel which will determine which is better for you. What do you want in a motorcycle, what will you use it for? It is like Camaro vs Mustang vs Challenger/Charger. Ask 1000 people which is best and you will get 1000 different answers and reasons why they prefer their pick.

I am one to admit when I was wrong, and I will say this. I had a choice between the Ninja 400 and Ninja 650. I sat on both, test rode both, and ended up picking the Ninja 400 ABS. Here is my take on Ninja 400 vs Ninja 650. I am 5' 8" tall, weigh 205 pounds. 30" inseam Ninja 400 pros: -Much lighter and more nimble -More fun to ride -Less vibration -Smoother feel -Analog gauges (depends on preference) -Cheaper -Better for shorter riders and newer riders -For me, it was more comfortable with the clip ons and such -Better street bike -Better track bike -Better fuel economy Ninja 400 cons: -Blown around by wind more -Non-adjustable levers (aftermarket ones are not expensive) -Non-adjustable suspension -Stock exhaust is sort of ugly and heavy (you hit the back of your foot on it) (aftermarket ones can be had for cheap to expensive) -Single front brake (but stops just as well) Ninja 650 pros: -Little more comfortable seating (like very slightly) -More power and faster -Digital gauge cluster is awesome -Adjustable levers -Slightly better in the wind -Better for taller riders -Better overall commuter -Maybe better 2-up (no experience with either yet in this regard to truly comment on this) -Better (and better looking) swing arm -Underside exhaust is better, sounds better, and better looking than the Ninja 400 one -Dual front brakes Ninja 650 cons: -Slightly heavier than even 600cc super sport bikes and much heavier than the Ninja 400 -Much more top heavy feeling motorcycle -Did not personally like the clip-on feel -More vibration (I heard it goes away after some miles on it, cannot comment on this personally) -About 25% more expensive -Not as good for newer riders (can get you in trouble faster due to the extra power and much heavier weight) -Not as nimble or fun to ride as the Ninja 400 I got the 2021 Ninja 400 ABS in Graphite Grey Metallic and could not be happier. I take delivery of it within the next few days. I made the right choice for myself, but you cannot go far wrong with either. The issue with the Ninja 650 is there are better options for around the same price (better performance, better overall motorcycles, etc.) , while currently the Ninja 400 has no peers.

@@ricsim78 the wind isn't blowing you around, you're gripping the handle bars too tight and the wind is blowing into you which is transferring from your arms into steering inputs, all you need is enough grip to twist the throttle and press your control levers, they're not there as a means to keep you on the bike, your feet on the pegs, knees against the gas tank and weight slightly forward are what accomplishes that, so work on being looser with your shoulders, arms, and hands

@@johncorbin5332 while I appreciate your advice, I should have worded it better. You are for sure correct, I was referring to a more windy day, for example crosswinds on the expressway. The Ninja 400 is about 370 pounds stock, the Ninja 650 is around 430. That extra 60 pounds of heft is going to help prevent you from being blown around more. I also think the Ninja 650 seemed to not have as much wind hitting my helmet as the 400. Taller windscreen maybe? I rode the 650 first and the 400 right after with a fairly windy day and I felt the 400 being blown around a bit more. Good point though and appreciate your advice. I got Snake skin tank grips ready to install on my 400 when I take delivery of it. I have about 8 months riding experience and started on a GSXR 600, 2004 year. Completed my MSF after riding about 4 months and when I first started, I was definitely holding the bike too tight and got blown around like you described.

Rs660 is $4k USD more to buy, probably $3k more USD over 5 years to insure, parts more money, 0 models sold vs tens of thousands. All in , TCO more than double the cost of ownership potentially. How many technicians have serviced an RS660? so many variables not a fair comparison.

@@AcmeRocket Maybe cost and engine displacement were in your mind as insurmountable comparison aspects, but they weren't found anywhere in my comment.

@@exothermal.sprocket you were comparing the 2, which is silly and invalid. Different leagues, different budgets.

@@AcmeRocket Silly and invalid. Except for some reason you didn't lay out the terms and conditions of the comment section so we could all play fair and avoid hurling insults.

There is some help there from the fairing, although if it was my money, I'd go for the performance edition of the Z650. It's a proper mini-supernaked and so much fun! Check out the review here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLunhbaKnM68knU.html

Ninja for comfort, cbr for a more aggressive style

Neil Haughey yeah, the CBR500R and CBR650R both kind of compete but with differing demographics. And you’re right, it’s an ideal first sports tourer! 👍🏻👌🏼

I have a 2018 and I also love the analog and digital dash much more than the digital one. I don't feel any tempted to trade in my bike for the 2020 model. And yes, it's a lovely bike.

Imo analog dials r really sexy ☺ that dual analog dials is 1 of the main reason y I bought the Moto Guzzi V7ii Stone

I agree. I have analog tach and it's better to me than the honda s2000 looking dash on the zx10r 2012.

I'm 5'11 felt cramped in the legs so I bought the extended seat it's harder padding but feels better on Deez 🥜 . I have a bad back and seating position feels good. Which is one reason I bought it over cbr650r leaned over more. I do wish they made a "Ninja" 900 for more power, I'd probably trade up fast.

@@gorilla9519 thank you so much for replying buddy. I really appreciate that. 👊🏻

Probably the best sports bike for new riders, yes, absolutely.

@@visordown What's the difference between this and the Z650? Hope you'll answer this! :)

Mark Tan engine tune I think is slightly different. Apart from that it’s fairings and upper body ergonomics

Torn betweeen this and the cbr650rr as a starter bike

And the styling is tweaked, rider and passenger comfort increased and it's not an LCD, it's a TFT. Kawasaki did state when I collected the bike it's an evolution of the previous generation, based on customer feedback - so all sensible upgrades. If you want USD suspension and full adjustability, buy the ZX-6R Ninja!

Visordown Motorcycle Videos we have a bunch of "small" bikes comes with USD susp... kawasaki marketing is similar to apple, giving a couple of tiny things to customer and selling like a gold. I really don't think need to buy a zx6r to have a usd susp or radial brakes, in my opinion. Regards!

DumbledoreMcCracken there is a blanking plate in the dash which makes me think it’s an option

Jep, I've installed an aftermarket 12v sigaret lighter thingy on my 2017 version. Can plug in a dual usb charger no problem.

@@geertd3244 thanks for letting us know!

You need a relay kit and an actual USB charger outlet compatible for the bike. There is a spot for it, IMO it should have been a standard feature. There are official Kawasaki ones and aftermarket ones for both relay and USB charger ports.

Based on my research the MT09 can be a handful and is a shocking animal. Be careful and do your research to avoid regret. I have no experience w this Kawi 650

I ride a 650, I'd say a mt09 for more power.

Wouldn't we all!

Lone Wolf Rider not sure, I think Yamaha need to pull there finger out and turn the MT-07 into a sportsbike