2020 Saragosa SWA is it worth it? Stradic SW just announced? | Product Review

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Bay to Bluewater

Bay to Bluewater

Күн бұрын

I've had a bit of time to put the 2020 Saragosa through its paces. In this video I'll tell you all of my thoughts on the new Saragosa SWA. I also make mention of the new Stradic SW, which since posting this video has been announced as an Australian domestic market product! Keep an eye out for a full review soon!
Reel - Shimano Saragosa SWA 6000HG
Handle - Gomexus 45mm Power Knob
Line - Varivas Avani Casting PE 3
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@ronmb81
@ronmb81 3 жыл бұрын
6:14 keeping it real mate, most would have edited that out! If this is your first review then i like your approach, the lighting, background setting, use of screen shots from websites and straight to the point stuff right from the get go (kinda hate when some add music on their reviews and have a long intro). Looking forward to your next review, you got yourself a new subscriber, cheers!
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, really appreciate the kind words and feedback 🙏🏽 With anything, life always gets in the way. Hopefully I’ll be able to make some more content soon 🤙🏼
@travesb9690
@travesb9690 3 жыл бұрын
Just some info on differences between new saragosa swa and new stradic sw. So the body is identical in both reels, but jdm stradic sw has more options where you can have different gear radios available in same size ( 6000pg or 6000hg or 6000xg). Stradic sw 4000 is pretty much a stradic fl which is more of a finesse reel, very smooth, it has worm gear and x-protect (no gasket in body plate). But stradic sw 5000 and up is a saragosa swa design, not as smooth,, and does not have worm gear but has x-shield (better sealed, has gasket in body plate). And besides the different handle knob, the saragosa has a different and stronger drag system and different spool support system. The spool of saragosa uses one keyed drag washer and also has a drag washer underneath the spool which is much larger in diameter on reels 8000 size and bigger. Also, it has a drag clicker built into the spool where bottom drag washer is and it is has a rubber seal protecting it from salt water. So 6000 saragosa swa has slightly stronger drag than 6000 stradic sw, 8000 saragosa and larger have significantly larger drag washers underneath the spool and can be used with noticeably higher drag pressures. In my opinion stradic sw is more of surf/shore reel but saragosa is more of a pier or boat reel where you need stronger drag to controll much larger fish.
@ronmb81
@ronmb81 2 жыл бұрын
The Australian Saragosa 2020 does not list having X shield but Stradic Sw does..
@ronmb81
@ronmb81 2 жыл бұрын
hey mate, ive noticed the new saragosa does not have X Shield like the old ones.. why would they do that!?
@peterkerch9357
@peterkerch9357 3 жыл бұрын
Ordered one in February and can't get it until May 21! Where are they???
@jpt2026
@jpt2026 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy one?? I been trying to find the sw10000 pg but no luck
@matlopi1381
@matlopi1381 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video man...i love the drag sound
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
Sound even better on a fish 🙌🏼
@matlopi1381
@matlopi1381 3 жыл бұрын
Yehhh
@kamadowoah4584
@kamadowoah4584 3 жыл бұрын
Great review cheers mate...interesting that the stradic sw is essentially the same reel.
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a bit strange how they’ve gone about it. I think that they should have given the Stradic SW line all of the sizes and released it in the Australian market as the 2020 Saragosa SWA. But I’ll wait to get my hands on the 6000 before passing too much judgement.
@timmytwinkletoes2203
@timmytwinkletoes2203 2 жыл бұрын
What size Saragosa and braid would you recommend for legal size Kings, Snapper etc around Sydney and surrounding East coast? ...(from kayak and possibly land based)
@BarefeetB
@BarefeetB 2 жыл бұрын
From a kayak I would go 8000 with 50lb braid paired with a nice action rod 👍
@Digbite
@Digbite 6 ай бұрын
Great review.
@xonick2
@xonick2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still confused with Shimano SW series nomenclature. We had old Saragosa SW before, now the new version name becomes SWA. It should be SWB. But if we just accept it, it means current Stradic SW would be SWA as well, rather than the same SW name again without any suffix.
@larryzhang2390
@larryzhang2390 2 жыл бұрын
comparing with daiwa bg mq? how about that?
@itsyessir7521
@itsyessir7521 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! thanks for the video. I need a shore jigging reel for my Majorcraft Solpara rod 1002H 60-100g. I'm about to choose between Saragosa, Bg MQ and Penn Slammer III. What reel and what size would you suggest me? I would go with a 40lbs Braid for about 300m. Thank you!
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 2 жыл бұрын
8000 BG MQ would match up nicely 🙌🏼
@TheRigMan
@TheRigMan 2 жыл бұрын
Not slammer III for sure, way too heavy. I have Stradic sw 6000 hg and slammer 5500, the weight difference is about 200 grams, it is tiring especially for jigging. Now I only use slammer for surf fishing cuase I don’t have too hold it. Now I am going to buy another reel and I am thinking getting the new gosa.
@JLTFishing
@JLTFishing 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! What website did you buy this reel at?
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The Saragosa was through a local tackle store and the Stradic SW was through Digitaka.
@JLTFishing
@JLTFishing 3 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 nice! Thank you
@sharons9367
@sharons9367 3 жыл бұрын
What size would you recommend for a 13-14ft surf rod
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a little bit tricky to give you an exact answer without knowing the full specs of the rod and what fish it will be used for. A generalised guess would be anywhere from a 5000 - 14000. Probably on the bigger end to balance out the rod.
@sharons9367
@sharons9367 3 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 hi thanks I will probably go 14000 maybe bigger just seen them in the shop 🙂
@DiamondHead2010
@DiamondHead2010 3 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the stradic sw
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, it’s one of the better looking reels out there 🙌🏼
@DiamondHead2010
@DiamondHead2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 that gosa with the round handle is nice too Is that a gomexus add on? I do wish we had more access to the Australian/Asian market products too
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s the 45mm Gomexus power knob. It’s a much nicer fishing experience and I think it looks pretty great too. I’m not really a fan of the rubber egg knobs they come with.
@DiamondHead2010
@DiamondHead2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 I just picked two up for some of my other reels It’s such a worthwhile investment imo, since we engage with the handle most of the time when fishing Gotta say it makes your reel look a lot nicer than the stock
@jpt2026
@jpt2026 2 жыл бұрын
Does the saragosa sw usually have the ball handle?
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 2 жыл бұрын
No, I’ve added the Gomexus knob.
@imamangler8462
@imamangler8462 2 жыл бұрын
Nice brother 👍🤙
@pipesurfer3922
@pipesurfer3922 3 жыл бұрын
Mean bro👍
@Nofishnoclue
@Nofishnoclue 3 жыл бұрын
How does this feel compared to the daiwa bg mq, I've heard she me people say the mq feels more refined but then others say the opposite
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had any real experience with the BG MQ other than turning the handle at the tackle shop. Personally, I liked the feel of the Saragosa more. There’s always going to be a difference of opinion and the best thing to do is to have a play with both reels yourself.
@jacojonker4312
@jacojonker4312 3 жыл бұрын
I have both the 6000 MQ and the new 6000 Saragosa. The MQ is lot smoother and quieter than the Saragosa. The drag clicker is the only thing I like about Saragosa 😄
@user-vu4tv8mo8z
@user-vu4tv8mo8z 3 жыл бұрын
The new saragosa have two problems , shaking , gear Noise Mq bg more smoother , light , balance ,cheaper This time daiwa win
@ShinkiZer0
@ShinkiZer0 2 жыл бұрын
Daiwa BG MQ is smoother than the Saragosa because of sealing. But i cant justify buying zinc gears for 200usd reels. I wish they make bigger sizes for Daiwa Backbays id buy those in a heartbeat.
@jacojonker4312
@jacojonker4312 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShinkiZer0 I am not talking about ease of spinning. The Saragosa feels geary. Daiwa is smoother because of the way their gears mesh. I never had any problems with the zinc gears in any of my BG's.
@fishinglover8697
@fishinglover8697 2 жыл бұрын
Hello can i know the size u handle on this video this is saragosa 6000 8000 or ?
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 2 жыл бұрын
Yep it’s a 6000 mate
@fishinglover8697
@fishinglover8697 2 жыл бұрын
@@minicopilot1 Thanks
@fishinglover8697
@fishinglover8697 2 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 really like your videos ❤️️ now ill buy Stradic 6000pg
@fishinglover8697
@fishinglover8697 2 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 i have a question Stradic PG and HG which one is the best for chosing ?
@mantulpakabu5125
@mantulpakabu5125 2 жыл бұрын
Worth for money, hi from Malaysia 'same place with gosa' 😅
@oussamadje4744
@oussamadje4744 3 жыл бұрын
What Gomexus knob diameter you use please?
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the 45mm Power Knob 👍🏼
@oussamadje4744
@oussamadje4744 3 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 i'm taking the 35 mm for my 6000hg i think that the 45mm locks better
@vishnuvijayan6147
@vishnuvijayan6147 3 жыл бұрын
I am looking for latest model sargosa SW6000 HG, So which one is the best for both shore fishing ? Sargosa or stradic ? Brother can you please suggest me a better one for buy
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, there’s a bunch of variables to take into account. But if you need a bigger stronger reel then the Saragosa is the way to go. If you need something a little bit lighter and more finesse then the Stradic is the better option.
@vishnuvijayan6147
@vishnuvijayan6147 2 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 thanks bro
@maxmed46
@maxmed46 3 жыл бұрын
who is better stradic sw 2020 or Saragosa sw ?
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
The Stradic SW is positioned slightly above the Saragosa. It’s a few grams lighter, has a different handle and different drag pressure ratings. The main point of difference is the gear ratios in each size. The other deciding factor is that the Stradic SW is only available up to a 10000 size where as the Saragosa SWA goes to a 25000. It all comes down to what you need in the reel.
@Galvoflysoz
@Galvoflysoz 3 жыл бұрын
Saratoga has the double drag stack where the SW is standard. The 4000 SW is really similar to Stradic FL almost to a Tee except the handle but $100 cheaper
@ronmb81
@ronmb81 2 жыл бұрын
@@Galvoflysoz There is no 4000 SW stradic in the Australian market and the 2020 Saragosa lacks X shield
@garychesters6994
@garychesters6994 3 жыл бұрын
Your information on weight is incorrect there is only about 10 grams difference between the weight of the second series saragosa 6000 and this the third series. Weights of both are on the USA website ( in ounces) you may be confusing the weight with that of the first ( blue) series which was much heavier, as the 6000 shared the same body as the 8000 in the first series ( it just had a shallower spool)
@baytobluewater8165
@baytobluewater8165 3 жыл бұрын
I’m referencing the previous Saragosa SW which was released ~ 2013 and is listed on the Australian website as 595 grams. I’m not aware of any other Saragosa being released in between that one and the current SWA? It’s interesting that the weights are different on the US vs Australian websites. Possibly variation in the usdm gosa vs adm gosa?
@garychesters6994
@garychesters6994 3 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 very interesting actually the USA website which has both the new Saragosa SWA 6000 listed at 16.0 ounces the last version SW listed at 16.4 ( thats an 11g difference) ounce they also have the spheros 6000 listed at 16.2 ounces. ( same body etc as the saragosa 6000SW) I would be very interested if you could get your hands on an Ausi SWA 6000 and SW6000 and put them on the scales. ( the original saragosa (was not called SW) was blue and did not have the water proofing that the two later models had and was available up to 18000 size the original saragosa was designated F e.g. 6000F 18000F etc
@ronmb81
@ronmb81 3 жыл бұрын
@@baytobluewater8165 maybe a suggestion for your next review. get the digital scales out and compare them to the figures stated online and the box. I have heard in the past of Shimano mis-leading info as such..
@torress1976
@torress1976 2 жыл бұрын
So the stradic and the seregosa are the same...
@TechnikMeister2
@TechnikMeister2 Жыл бұрын
Its cheap as, in the scheme of things. About the same as a quality pair of shoes. Given if its your main recreational activity, spend some decent money and enjoy the quality of the mid range reels.
@phelanreddy9296
@phelanreddy9296 2 жыл бұрын
Stomach noise at 4:36 😂
@stevensilva1350
@stevensilva1350 2 жыл бұрын
Idk my twin power SW sounds alot nicer then the gosa.
@mrbamboo23
@mrbamboo23 Жыл бұрын
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