Of course you have scroll down to the appropriate comparison chart. I am impressed with the work you have put into these rankings. But what most surprised me is how highly ranked the Toyota Camry AND Avalon TRD's are ranked, not just for value, as their fun factor is only one point less that that of the WRX premium. Just drove an old friend's manual WRX (Not the STI), and was so impressed with how much fun it was. I was about to pull the trigger to get one as my "driver's" car. But now I think I have to try these Toyota TRD's before making a decision. Until recently, I would never have considered a front wheel drive car for the job. Of course, the Civic Type R has changed many minds, but once you are over a certain age, the Type R just doesn't have a look that I can live with.

InstaBlaster.

I agree. It is however very touchy. I still cant find the sweet spot on mine lol still love mine tho.

Very nice! Had an E46 M3 back in the day.

MAP stage 1 tune - rev hang is GONE.

I blew my stage 2 gt wagon up, bought a 2020 wrx yesterday. My legacy gt pulled harder, but the wrx is a more balanced powerband that makes it almost as fast.

I wouldn't retire that. I have a 05 Legacy GT and just got my new 2020 WRX with Perfomance Package. No way I would get rid of my Legacy. Rare little car man. Keep them!

Jovany Paredes he said side vents are for additional cooling 😂 😂 😂

They're meant to give that wide body look for so it can run a thicker tire tread.

Due to the layout and compact engine packing, those vents wouldn't make much difference anyway.

Glad to hear that about the clutch! I'm coming from a BRZ which was a sweet shifting car and found the WRX clutch to be quite heavy (at least after 1 week of driving).

With the new platform, the WRX should be bigger, more comfortable and more powerful :).

Do a search on the 2020 Subaru Levorg to get some clues. The front is similar to the new WRX sedan. There is also a new 1.8 liter turbo engine.

Drivers Only it sure will 👍

Moss Miller I’ll check that out

Drivers Only ...Is it going to be a WRX disguised as a Legacy? Like the Spec B was considered the adult version of the older WRX?

gonna be same shit anyway

the same

Nice, interesting...did you always drive cars with heavy crutches?

No just wrx and sti

Yeah it’s not heavy at all nothing to complain about lmao

Maybe you're use to it? Have you been driving WRXs for a while?

@@DriversOnly Had an 06 Impreza and a 97 Wrangler before that, so I probably am used to it.

Drivers Only I can back that up. It’s honestly too light for me. I don’t know if it’s just me but the throw also feels longer.

It's a men clutch...hell yeah!

I learned on an old porsche 911 and the clutch on that car feels like lifting 40 lbs. The wrx's clutch feels much lighter in comparison.

Then you haven't been in really nice cars.

FXIIBeaver no I’m saying for a budget sports car

@@brendanfogel4573 not at all what you said. You claimed it has one of the nicest wheels.

FXIIBeaver yeah steering wheels that’s what I said

Kirk thanks for the feedback and awesome to hear!

Wait for the new model if you can.

TheMetalGuy852 lol I need more info

@TheMetalGuy852 nearly all the issues you mention I have not experienced in my 2019. They made improvements to the insulation and suspension to the 2018+ so that may be part of the reason. The rev hang can be tuned out with as little as a Cobb tune, what you are experiencing is not rev hang but the slow spool down of engine RPM caused by the pulleys and flywheel weight. Rev hang feels different, and with a tune, there isn't any. Your ringlands aren't going anywhere, this is an fa20, not an ej25. And -2.84 isn't much knock at all, though if you see it constantly you must be running really poor gas because I hardly ever do. It's debatable if Subaru can see that you tuned it. The reset counter also applies to disconnecting the battery, so arguably that could be the reason it's at 0. The understeer is deliberately there because people can't drive. It's an alignment feature to make the car safer. When you start to understeer, take your foot off the gas and you will notice the weight shift forward and the car suddenly grab into the corner. This is easier for most drivers to understand and manage, so Subaru sets it up this way deliberately. A performance alignment fixes this. The clutch bite point feels great on mine. Again, changed for 18+ model years. Shifted feels nice too. I get 26mpg average, regularly get 33 on the freeway, and a friend of mine has managed as high as 40 with an eco tune. The transmission is not made of glass. That's the 2002 bugeye. The trans is out of a European model diesel and quite durable in fact. If you are clutch dumping it, eventually something is gonna let go, as with any car with this muc grip. If you drive it correctly it will last a long time and is good up to about 400hp. The brakes are fine, they don't fade unless you treat it like a race car. It has street pads. If you want to avoid brake fade put in dot4 fluid and track pads. The steering feels great in mine. The most direct and lively feeling electronic steering I've ever driven. Has good road feedback too. I think this was also improved for 2018. I've never seen or heard of anyone deleting the AC on this car ever, and I follow a lot of groups. Seems honestly beyond moronic to do that since it can just be turned off and have the same effect. Sorry you didn't get along with your 17, sounds like you were either looking for a different feel of car or the 18 maybe was more what you wanted it to be.

@@jamalallen8047 please see my reply to his reply. Might help give you some context.

Did you get it? Yesterday was black Friday

Thanks appreciate it.

Nice! Haha about the clutch...glad i'm not the only one who feels that way. :)

I agree. I've let several friends drive it, and warned each one about this before hand. Still resulted in many lurching starts and stalls. Takes becoming accustomed too. BTW, I don't think it's all due to the clutch. I think, when shifting, you are also usually going from no boost to full boost. Really easy to misjudge gas and clutch use when the power changes so much.

It's not the clutch, it's the tune that causes that.

Ain't that bad on some occasion 😂,may be you guys are right,maybe the clutch feel or the tranny or what ever that thing is,it's just bit harder to trust the car most especially coming from a stop and go situations. There's almost no margin for error or mistake on this car,you released that clutch to early or missed judge the clutch engaging point it will punish you haha! Maybe it wants you to a better driver,but even Torreto God mode talent will still stall this car! To be a honest I was torn between this and the type R! Since wife okayed it,type r just a little to impractical for me most especially I need to daily drive the thing and there's no other car I can used if something happen.

bayumbon sonsam lies. I had the 2015 WRX for two years then I traded it for a 2018 WRX and I NEVER stalled it. Not even once. I also live in Chicago and I’m stuck in rush hour two to three hours a day and never stalled

Lol that clutch definitely takes time to get used to

Hey bro are they reliable?

@@mikea8998 100%. Great gas mileage for a turbo charged engine, reliable in the snow (with snow tires***), and not to mention it drives like a badass! 1 year later my baby drives clean as a whistle with no issues :) highly recommend you’ll never give it up

Nice! Yea its very heavy especially compared to Hondas.

@@DriversOnly Yeah my buddies accord felt like a little baby spring. Felt the polar opposite lol. I just blew the engine on my 2013 BRZ and can't find a working replacement engine anywhere so now I may just have to move on :(

Will have to test out a STI soon, maybe in the snow :).

Brandon Amador ....This is the key, keep up with maintenance and don’t beat up on the car.

Thanks!

This is a pretty good implementation though. The second set of eyes on the road isn't a bad thing. I've got it in a 2017 Forester XT, i'd wan't it on a rex if I was buying one.

@@cyc00000 im sure its helpful but its the times when the systems brake for no reason increasing the risk of getting rear ended/causing an accident

Larry no push start button for 6 speed manual

Drivers Only yes there is. Limited trim. I have a 2018 in one

Good point although I would think it will still try to keep up within the gear your in. But maybe not...but unfortunately you do lose the other features that's included in Eyesight.

I don't see how hard it would be to just set a warning telling you to shift when the cruise control is on. Eyesight on the other hand might cause some safety concern, but I wouldn't care even if it stall the car in an emergency stop.

Better than crashing right? I tested a GLI and it had all the safety features still even with the manual. I can see how adaptive cruise control would be difficult though.

Drivers Only anything’s better than crashing lol. If the engine stalls you might loose power steering and the brake booster though which sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I hope they can figure something out though because Eyesight works wonders with insurance rates

Congrats!

@@DriversOnly thank you, cant wait. its gunna be a long long week i can tell you that much haha.

@@imoffendedthatyouareoffended how was it?

@@danieljarrett3783 the cars been fantastic, super fun in the snow especially on ice. my real complaint is the popping speakers and the center console is useless. other than that its been the perfect car for everything I love to do. best purchase ever.

@@imoffendedthatyouareoffended i got mine last week too. gets more fun every day i drive it. as im still learning the shifts. what you mean about the speakers? i do hear that they're very bass heavy but havent played with them too much

Nice. All three cars you've named are very very different from each other. If you've never driven a foreign car before, you might be pleasantly surprised.

Hi ! Welcome the subaru family ! :) wrx is very good for winter and the unmatched AWD !. For nissan go on KZfaq and you will see awd is very weak and only good for dayly driving.

And for the Dodge charger, the interior is superior by farrrrrrrrrrr over wrx's. You buy subaru for: powerfull awd, reliability (newer motor) for a cheap price The wrx cons are: outdated interior and gas mileage

D Car Nissan makes much nicer vehicles overall and Dodger recruited Mercedes-Benz engineers for their 2015 Dodge Charger redesign including the new eight speed transmission, most awarded touchscreen and full electronic Dash. as she stated Subarus are known for being the cheapest manufactured vehicles in terms of materials, their technology is the same as a 2011 Dodge charger if you look at those interiors. I don’t know why Subaru doesn’t improve and get cars with more than 310hp

for now till 2022 when pre collision braking becomes mandatory on all cars

even in base trim

I got one about 2 months ago and I haven't misssed a week washing it, still looks brand new. Just gotta know how to wash it and maybe get a ceramic coating on it for extra protection.

Sounds like someone needs to learn how to properly wash a car

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eayImbZzt5u1aas.html Chrisfix is definitely a man who knows how to wash a car. Follow these steps, and you'll be able to wash your car without scratching your clear coat.

do it, you wont regret

This guy is going around trashing the WRX but 90% of his issues are either non issues or already remedied. 10/10 great car.

@TheMetalGuy852 I've driven a 2016, it was pretty awesome too. I just test drive things before I buy them and make educated decisions. I almost bought a GTI but got a great deal on a WRX, so I'm hardly a fanboy. The lack of a hatch is retarded for example. I like the GTI for is refinement. I like the WRX for its direct and raw feel. I just haven't had the issues you have. I like the car the way it is, and a huge amount of other people do too, so I think it's more that you're just a hater who can't accept reality. Every single grievance you had I addressed in an educated manner and the best you've got is "fAnBOy". LMAO ok.

You're welcome!

Hum have to double check. Even though the build page says push button start with the Limited, I'm not sure you can get it with the manual. But if you can get it great! :).

^^^ This is true, but don't need Harmon Kardon package. I have a 2018 Limited 6MT, no upgrades other than short shift kit, and it has push button start.

@@DriversOnly I have a 2020 WRX Limited with 6MT and it has a push button start. You still have to have the clutch pressed in for the car to start.

I havent tested a Golf R yet but I believe the Golf GTI is the same class as WRX. R is competing with the STI. Hope to test them soon.

@@DriversOnly Thank you for the prompt reply. Though the GTI is not AWD like the Subie. I just wish VW would make an AWD sport sedan with manual trans to compete with the WRX sedan. It almost seems like VW doesn't listen to market hunger. They still have yet to come up with a smaller SUV, while the rest of the market is well on their way. ...frustrating.

Presto same I’m really hoping they bring back the hatchback next year

Stick or cvt?

Drivers Only stick 6 speed

What in the fuck is a clutch assist spring

Thanks for sharing, I haven't testing a crosstek yet but will in the future.

3:18 mark

Idiot

lol even my sti gets better than that...

thats what the computer says, it doesnt mean that is it will be when its hand calculated

even the base trim has push start but no leather seat and keyless entry in aus

Good point

Honda Accord Sports that are manual have adaptive cruise control. You just have to be smart about what gear the car is in if it starts slowing down.

I didn't notice any rev hang.

I had a 2017 Wrx and just traded it in for the 2020 with performance package. The 2020 is considerably more comfortable to drive. Better clutch feel and noticeably less rev hang than the 2017 Wrx.

@@JRStefanos drove a 15 but own a 19. Clutch is softer but rev hang is annoying.

Yes I've got a 2020 Subaru wrx premium edition with performance package

And risk a turbo going out because Subarus get molested as badly as mustang's? No thanks.

Wow that's a lot you just said right there lol. The WRX and Civic Sport are two very different cars. WRX is closer to the performance of Type R but with AWD.

@@DriversOnly I know. The Civic Sport Sedan is probably the best, affordable buy with sportiness, but longevity for a daily driver. And gradually up to the Si. I don't need a Trpe R or STi, but the WRX would be the best if I really wanted to shift and really drive.

Thanks for your support!

@@DriversOnly lol trolls gonna troll.

I'll test one soon :).

Because it costs about $8k more and has an engine from the stone age with its own set of issues.

Not as comfortable to drive as a daily (which is subjective). Plus after factoring in gas consumption of the STI and insurance rates... you may reconsider your decision.

Not me. I test drove a WRX and an STI. Sti was, admittedly, nice. But for me, and my driving, the plain WRX was plenty. I've had it a year now and regret nothing. Drive both and make up your own mind.

Kirk Wagner well thats great! As long as your happy thats all that matters!

Major reason why is because some don’t want to work on a 03-2013 Subaru wrx.

ILUV2SK8 504 yea I’m not a fan of the 2015+ models myself, personally I would love to see a hatch though. Just my opinion on that though, it’s a very common vehicle and literally almost every time I look it’s a female driving it, so it just comes off as a very feminine car

You have a problem with women driving this car? What are you, an incel?

keithsa41 go for a miata

This "corolla" had AWD and shares nothing with the corolla. If that's not your thing then cool, but it's still one of the fastest cars you can get in its price.

Thanks Joseph, appreciate it.

@@DriversOnly so what you think the SI or WRX? And which one would you rather have as a daily driver?